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Amuseddaysleeper
03-07-2010, 02:59 PM
And it's not even close. Hopefully the academy doesn't screw it up tonight.

ace3g
03-07-2010, 03:02 PM
I'd take District 9 over Avatar to.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-07-2010, 03:07 PM
I'd take District 9 over Avatar to.

Same here, I'd also take "Up In The Air" over Avatar.

baseline bum
03-07-2010, 03:37 PM
This is a shitty year if Hurt Locker is the best it has to offer. That movie is grossly overrated.

ace3g
03-07-2010, 03:41 PM
so is Avatar, its a good movie , but not a great movie

Stringer_Bell
03-07-2010, 04:02 PM
I just don't see how, with all the comparisons to Pocahontas/Fern Gully/Dances with Wolves, people don't just treat it like an updated version with nice visuals instead of what appears to be the leading best film of the year. I bought into the hype, saw the trailer, and realized James Cameron made another Final Fantasy movie instead of a brand new world using crazy ass technological advances.

Also, can anyone vouch for the validity of this synopsis?
http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2010/01/05/pocahontas-avatar/

ace3g
03-07-2010, 04:09 PM
yep plus he reuses to sounds from Jurassic Park for 2 of his creatures (T-Rex and Raptor) for a movie that Cameron was working on for like 8+ years, it isn't very original. Everyone was just so blindsided by the 3D/CGI aspect of the film they forgot what makes a great film: acting, directing

SpursNextRomanEmpire
03-07-2010, 04:31 PM
It better be Hurt Locker tonight

4>0rings
03-07-2010, 05:08 PM
I hope District 9 gets it. Avatar and Hurt Locker were both good moviesbut not great.

Destro
03-07-2010, 05:20 PM
Avatar should sweep all the technical awards, it was beautiful to watch but boring as hell. Hurt Locker was good but it wasn't very different from other good war movies. I really liked District 9 but even that to me doesn't deserve an Oscar, they story was great but other parts of it were bad. I really liked Precious, i think that was the best movie this year. That movie rips your heart out and makes you feel so many different emotions

Spurminator
03-07-2010, 05:34 PM
I liked Inglorious Basterds better than either of them. But I think Hurt Locker gets it. The voting was changed this year so that each voter ranks the ten films in order, so I expect a lot of voters will have Avatar near the bottom of their rankings.

Having seen all ten of them (thanks HD bittorrents!) here's how I'd rank them.

1. Inglorious Basterds
2. The Hurt Locker
3. A Serious Man
4. Precious
5. An Education
6. Up
7. Up in the Air
8. District 9
9. Avatar
10. The Blind Side

The category I'm most interested in this year is Best Actress. From reading around the Interwebs you'd assume Bullock has it locked up but I'm holding out hope that the girl from Precious pulls off the upset.

Destro
03-07-2010, 07:21 PM
1. Inglorious Basterds


The category I'm most interested in this year is Best Actress. From reading around the Interwebs you'd assume Bullock has it locked up but I'm holding out hope that the girl from Precious pulls off the upset.

I forgot about Inglorious Bastards, that was my favorite to. I really hope Precious gets at least one award

Viva Las Espuelas
03-07-2010, 07:56 PM
Avatar should get the visual Oscar award. It'd be a shame if it got best picture.

Russ
03-07-2010, 07:58 PM
I just saw "Hurt Locker" and it is competent and entertaining. But it is ultimately shallow, smug and dumb.

Therefore, there is no doubt in my mind that it will win the Oscar for "Best Picture."

Get to your bookie quick -- it's a lock. :)

resistanze
03-07-2010, 08:53 PM
Man, I'm surprised all the love The Hurt Locker got. I've must've missed something when I watched it.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-07-2010, 09:06 PM
Hurt Locker was truly incredible. It was just well shot, directed, edited, acted, had a wonderful script.

Just a great, great film.

lefty
03-07-2010, 09:12 PM
Avatar is an overrated POS

I can't believe it got a nomination; but again the last 1.5 year has been shitty in Hollywood

TheProfessor
03-07-2010, 09:27 PM
I'd still take Up over all of them.

baseline bum
03-07-2010, 09:53 PM
Hurt Locker was your stereotypical cowboy soldier who survives on the strength of his character rather than by making sound decisions; typical Hollywood garbage. Really noble the way he got his boy shot at the end too.

L.I.T
03-07-2010, 09:58 PM
The Hurt Locker took original screenplay, so I'll be surprised if it wins best picture.

My favorites out of the list though were Up and District 9 (Inglorious Basterds is up there as well). Up likely won't win because it took best animated feature. And I will shocked if their actually give it to District 9.

Oh well. Avatar will likely get it for being a blah blah gamechanger blah (please note, I really enjoyed Avatar...for what it was...one of the best popcorn flicks ever).

Dr. Gonzo
03-07-2010, 10:09 PM
District 9 wasn't good. I found it to be pretty fucking boring. I think Avatar was good but not the best picture nominated. I liked Up, Inglorious Bastards and Up in the Air a lot more.

Fpoonsie
03-07-2010, 10:10 PM
inglorious basterds by far the best movie of the year

Agreed. No chance it wins, though.

And what was with Monique's acceptance "it's about the performance, not the politics" speech? Tap yourself on the back fat much?

Dr. Gonzo
03-07-2010, 10:10 PM
Monique is hot.

Dr. Gonzo
03-07-2010, 10:13 PM
Precious was a funny movie. I don't think it should've been nominated. I can't think of another comedy that has been nominated recently.

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 10:27 PM
Hurt Locker was your stereotypical cowboy soldier who survives on the strength of his character rather than by making sound decisions; typical Hollywood garbage. Really noble the way he got his boy shot at the end too.

what do you expect from a war movie made by a woman

Stringer_Bell
03-07-2010, 10:33 PM
And what was with Monique's acceptance "it's about the performance, not the politics" speech? Tap yourself on the back fat much?

I think she meant that the Academy gets a lot of shit for being politicized, but if she won there's probably something more to it? I don't like the woman, came off really self-important, but I kinda get what she meant there.

Precious seemed like a lot of sad shit rolled into a fat ball to make people sad and call it a great emotional movie. You can't be sad for the sake of being sad.

CharlieMac
03-07-2010, 10:40 PM
Hurt Locker was a great movie. It would be a shame to see Pocahontas win tonight.

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 10:47 PM
the only award a fat woman should win should involve some sort of eating contest, or a beauty pageant where she was up against fatter women

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 10:51 PM
wow that avatar score was weak

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 10:59 PM
damn now i rooting for cameron just to piss off the vaginas and the blacks

Amarelooms
03-07-2010, 11:13 PM
District 9 should have won something...that movie rocked :elephant

Fpoonsie
03-07-2010, 11:14 PM
damn now i rooting for cameron just to piss off the vaginas and the blacks

:lol

EmptyMan
03-07-2010, 11:15 PM
Monique pisses me off.

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 11:26 PM
5 bithces to present 1 award gotdamn

gaKNOW!blee
03-07-2010, 11:28 PM
the hurt locker was one of the most boring pieces of shit ive ever seen

Amarelooms
03-07-2010, 11:38 PM
the hurt locker was one of the most boring pieces of shit ive ever seen

District 9 >>>>>>>>>> Hurt Smocker :elephant

Dr. Gonzo
03-07-2010, 11:46 PM
Black Dynamite >>> All these jive ass movies

Johnny RIngo
03-07-2010, 11:46 PM
District 9 >>>>>>>>>> Hurt Smocker :elephant

Agreed but the over-the-top final act probably turned off the Oscar voters(too much of a popcorn flick in the last 15 minutes). Same goes for Avatar. Hurt Locker's probably getting the award.

Fpoonsie
03-07-2010, 11:49 PM
Black Dynamite >>> All these jive ass movies

Well, that's the fuckin Academy for ya. It must be those "pawl'tics" Monique was referring to.

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 11:50 PM
fuck the field was bad in the best actress category this year

Fpoonsie
03-07-2010, 11:53 PM
Jesus Christ. Barb's "look how far we've come as an Academy" masturbatory speech is nauseating.

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 11:54 PM
no woman no black no cameron

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 11:55 PM
fucking bullshit

Fpoonsie
03-07-2010, 11:55 PM
no woman no black no cameron

:lol Who didjoo want? Quentin?

Fpoonsie
03-07-2010, 11:59 PM
Well, there ya go. Just glad it wasn't Avatar.

Dr. Gonzo
03-07-2010, 11:59 PM
I'm glad it was any movie but Precious. I can't stand looking at the fat chick sweating bacon grease all over the place.

Trainwreck2100
03-07-2010, 11:59 PM
:lol Who didjoo want? Quentin?

no all the was left was the reitman, and like a billion jews have won academy awards

balli
03-08-2010, 12:02 AM
They should have given Cameron best director if they were going to award best pic to Hurt Locker. Cameron shouldn't have left empty handed- his film single-handedly moved movie making into a new era.

monosylab1k
03-08-2010, 12:03 AM
:lol cameron was looking like he took a bite of a shit sandwich when he realized Avatar wasn't winning anything important.

He looked alot like Belichick in the final seconds of Super Bowl 42.

Trainwreck2100
03-08-2010, 12:04 AM
They should have given Cameron Best Director if they were going to award Best Pic to Hurt Locker. Cameron shouldn't have left empty handed- his film single-handedly moved movie making into a new era.

and they rewarded the special effects team, the story was recycled though

monosylab1k
03-08-2010, 12:05 AM
his film single-handedly moved movie making into a new era.

:lmao so after Avatar every other movie is going to rehash old Disney movie plots?

Amarelooms
03-08-2010, 12:06 AM
WGAS about that trophy....I'll take 2billion thanks :elephant

monosylab1k
03-08-2010, 12:06 AM
I can't wait for the blockbuster sci-fi epic of a pale woman and her 7 midget androids.

balli
03-08-2010, 12:07 AM
the story was recycled though

For sure.

But say what you will about it, Avatar was the most important film of 2009. And Cameron probably put 20x the amount of time and effort into making it, compared to any of his co-nominees. Fuck his visual effects team, he should have taken at least one award home himself.

Goran Dragic
03-08-2010, 12:07 AM
I can't wait for the blockbuster sci-fi epic of a pale woman and her 7 midget androids.


:lmao

Stringer_Bell
03-08-2010, 12:11 AM
James Cameron was pretty stoked his ex-wife got some recognition. He is cool with no winning, I'm sure, since he has the #1 and #2 highest grossing movies of all time. He can just tell himself that all around the world, his movies have resonated with audiences and made maaaaaad cash.

I like Barb, but her whole "the time has come" bullshit comment was out of line. The time has come for people to stop giving a fuck about the sex or race of a director and just give out the fucking award. :ihit

Edit: Avatar 2 storyline is about a female Na'vi posing as a male that eventually commands her clan's army, but falls in love with a rival commander which leads to further conflict.

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 12:11 AM
They should have given Cameron best director if they were going to award best pic to Hurt Locker. Cameron shouldn't have left empty handed- his film single-handedly moved movie making into a new era.

Sure he should have. And, despite being quite fond of Avatar as an overall movie experience, I'm glad that he did. Other than the special effects and technology, there was nothing particularly special or award worthy about his direction of that film.

monosylab1k
03-08-2010, 12:12 AM
James Cameron was pretty stoked his ex-wife got some recognition. He is cool with no winning

are you sure? He played okay for the cameras but his face had the biggest "this is some bullshit" look. He didn't look genuinely happy at all, and as visionary a director as he is, he's also probably got the biggest ego in Hollywood which is no minor accomplishment.

Trainwreck2100
03-08-2010, 12:15 AM
glad waltz won, too bad he's going to lose his thunder in "The green hornet"

TheProfessor
03-08-2010, 12:15 AM
They should have given Cameron best director if they were going to award best pic to Hurt Locker. Cameron shouldn't have left empty handed- his film single-handedly moved movie making into a new era.
Hyperbole much? I mean, I enjoyed it, but geez...

whottt
03-08-2010, 12:15 AM
:lol cameron was looking like he took a bite of a shit sandwich when he realized Avatar wasn't winning anything important.

He looked alot like Belichick in the final seconds of Super Bowl 42.

The funniest part was when his ex-wife didn't even mention him convincing her to direct the Hurt Locker, either time she spoke, those she was awfully kind to thank the troops again. Shit sandwich indeed. :lol


No way was Hurt Locker good enough to justify that many awards. I doubt I ever watch it again. I'll definitely watch Sherlock Holmes again before I see Hurt Locker again.

DieMrBond
03-08-2010, 12:23 AM
While Avatar kicked ass, and i had a serious nerd-gasm over the graphics - Best Picture? Seriously? It shouldn't have even been nominated for it... thats like giving a nomination to Starship Troopers. Kind of ... well, you get the idea.

I enjoyed Hurt Locker, and thought it was a riveting film. Fairly worthy, i'd say. Funny that it hasn't made much $ so far ... it sure will now though!

Johnny RIngo
03-08-2010, 12:26 AM
are you sure? He played okay for the cameras but his face had the biggest "this is some bullshit" look. He didn't look genuinely happy at all, and as visionary a director as he is, he's also probably got the biggest ego in Hollywood which is no minor accomplishment.

I didn't notice it, and if he was pissed, it wasn't as apparent as Reitman's reaction during the Globes. Cameron seemed more annoyed at Martin and Baldwin's Avatar jokes throughout the night. Stiller did get him to crack up though.

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 12:27 AM
I like Barb, but her whole "the time has come" bullshit comment was out of line. The time has come for people to stop giving a fuck about the sex or race of a director and just give out the fucking award. :ihit

It's pretty alarming that only one woman has won for best director and, counting Ang Lee, only one person of color. And it's something that I, personally, hope changes as it would indicate that more people have access to the tools and connections needed to make a movie on that scale.

I would agree that right before it's handed out is not the best time to repeatedly bring it up, however. Had it been James Cameron, Jason Reitman, or Quentin Tarantino who'd won that award everyone would be talking about Oscar politics instead of letting a deserving (debatable, but not the point) director have their moment.

Spurminator
03-08-2010, 12:28 AM
I think Basterds got screwed in Screenwriting and Cinematography.

balli
03-08-2010, 12:29 AM
Hyperbole much? I mean, I enjoyed it, but geez...

Look, I don't think Avatar is some crowning achievement in narrative plot or structure, but man... that shit is just insane. It's a goddamn experience. I don't mean to say that the film is a game-changer in terms of what it's telling us (far from it), but in terms of what it's showing us.

I haven't seen Hurt Locker and I'm ready to admit that as a more serious film it may well be deserving of the overall Best Picture award, but Cameron should have taken one or the other. Pass it off to his special effects team, but the Director forms the overall vision of the film, and as he built a complete world, while fully moving 3-D into the 21st century, the dude deserved some props.

whottt
03-08-2010, 12:32 AM
It's pretty alarming that only one woman has won for best director and, counting Ang Lee, only one person of color. And it's something that I, personally, hope changes as it would indicate that more people have access to the tools and connections needed to make a movie on that scale.

I know...all those damn jews in Hollywood, do they really think they're fooling anyone?

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 12:36 AM
I think Basterds got screwed in Screenwriting and Cinematography.

This.

Dro210
03-08-2010, 12:38 AM
I thought Hurt Locker was a badass movie, glad it won.

I agree with you tho Balli. Avatar is definitely an experience, and it did change the game... If you're looking for a great story, read a book... Avatar was an amazing "picture", imo.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 12:38 AM
basterds for screenwriting maybe, but not for cinematography. It wasn't shot that well, tarantino is much better with dialogue than he is with the actual look of his films. Kill Bill looked much better than IB.


And to those saying avatar is the most important film of 2009. It was a "big" film for 2009, but 10 years from now it'll just be a dated film since it relies so heavily on the technology of its time that it's lack of a decent story will make it the forgettable trash that it is.


Watch the film on DVD when it comes out and see if you can even sit through it. More than half the films nominated were arguably better than Avatar.

G-Nob
03-08-2010, 12:40 AM
lol avatar
pretty to look at but thats as far as it goes.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 12:40 AM
While Avatar kicked ass, and i had a serious nerd-gasm over the graphics - Best Picture? Seriously? It shouldn't have even been nominated for it... thats like giving a nomination to Starship Troopers. Kind of ... well, you get the idea.

I enjoyed Hurt Locker, and thought it was a riveting film. Fairly worthy, i'd say. Funny that it hasn't made much $ so far ... it sure will now though!

It hasn't made much money cuz it barely played on very many screens. It had the tiniest budget of all the films nominated and had no bankable hollywood stars or special effects.

The DVD/Blu-Ray sales will be through the roof, and that'll work out even better since the theaters take half the money at the box office anyway. Home Video sales almost entirely go to the distributors who put out the film.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 12:41 AM
lol avatar
pretty to look at but thats as far as it goes.

Bingo

Trainwreck2100
03-08-2010, 12:44 AM
lol avatar
pretty to look at but thats as far as it goes.

you can't say the same about mark henry tonight

Spurminator
03-08-2010, 12:44 AM
basterds for screenwriting maybe, but not for cinematography. It wasn't shot that well, tarantino is much better with dialogue than he is with the actual look of his films. Kill Bill looked much better than IB.

I have to disagree. While watching IB I could see every shot of the film being described in vivid detail on a page in a novel. I thought it was fantastically shot. That movie was carried by the tension in long conversations had by people sitting at tables, driven by the actors, the writing, and the shots during those conversations.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 12:48 AM
I have to disagree. While watching IB I could see every shot of the film being described in vivid detail on a page in a novel. I thought it was fantastically shot. That movie was carried by the tension in long conversations had by people sitting at tables, driven by the actors, the writing, and the shots during those conversations.

I thought the tension and the camera work was far better in HL, the camera shots gave significantly greater tension than anything in IB. The intro and the bar scenes were great in IB, but I could really do without the whole movie theater chick storyline. It also went on for way way too long, and Brad Pitt's accent was brutal.

Johnny RIngo
03-08-2010, 12:49 AM
It's pretty alarming that only one woman has won for best director and, counting Ang Lee, only one person of color. And it's something that I, personally, hope changes as it would indicate that more people have access to the tools and connections needed to make a movie on that scale.

I would agree that right before it's handed out is not the best time to repeatedly bring it up, however. Had it been James Cameron, Jason Reitman, or Quentin Tarantino who'd won that award everyone would be talking about Oscar politics instead of letting a deserving (debatable, but not the point) director have their moment.

I think it's more an issue about female directors having less chances to fail after a box office bomb; Using Bigelow as an example, she directed K-19 The Widowmaker with a $100 million dollar budget. The movie tanked at the BO and she hasn't done a big-budget film since(Hurt Locker only cost 11 million). This article goes into it further:

http://open.salon.com/blog/travis_darby/2010/02/25/all_we_are_saying_is_give_women_directors_a_chance

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 12:50 AM
The funniest part was when his ex-wife didn't even mention him convincing her to direct the Hurt Locker, either time she spoke, those she was awfully kind to thank the troops again. Shit sandwich indeed. :lol


No way was Hurt Locker good enough to justify that many awards. I doubt I ever watch it again. I'll definitely watch Sherlock Holmes again before I see Hurt Locker again.


Sherlock Holmes was terrible, come on man

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 12:52 AM
basterds for screenwriting maybe, but not for cinematography. It wasn't shot that well, tarantino is much better with dialogue than he is with the actual look of his films. Kill Bill looked much better than IB.

The Kill Bill movies were more obviously stylish/stylized than Inglorious Basterds, but I wouldn't necessarily say they looked better across the board. Basterds' opening scene and the scene in the basement bar were not only masterfully directed/paced, but gorgeous to look at. Simple, subtle filmmaking.

Johnny RIngo
03-08-2010, 12:54 AM
I thought the tension and the camera work was far better in HL, the camera shots gave significantly greater tension than anything in IB. The intro and the bar scenes were great in IB, but I could really do without the whole movie theater chick storyline. It also went on for way way too long, and Brad Pitt's accent was brutal.

This has nothing to do with the direction(which you were discussing). You seem to have more of an issue with the script/plot.

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 12:55 AM
I thought the tension and the camera work was far better in HL, the camera shots gave significantly greater tension than anything in IB. The intro and the bar scenes were great in IB, but I could really do without the whole movie theater chick storyline. It also went on for way way too long, and Brad Pitt's accent was brutal.

The movie theater chick WAS the storyline, and Pitt's accent was intended to be brutal.

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 01:01 AM
I think it's more an issue about female directors having less chances to fail after a box office bomb; Using Bigelow as an example, she directed K-19 The Widowmaker with a $100 million dollar budget. The movie tanked at the BO and she hasn't done a big-budget film since(Hurt Locker only cost 11 million). This article goes into it further:

http://open.salon.com/blog/travis_darby/2010/02/25/all_we_are_saying_is_give_women_directors_a_chance

Even more than that, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that there are only certain types of films that women and people of color are "supposed" to make, and those types of movies don't typically get nominated for big awards.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 01:02 AM
Even more than that, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that there are only certain types of films that women and people of color are "supposed" to make, and those types of movies don't typically get nominated for big awards.

Agreed, plus a chick who directed a war film and it actually turned out good.

I also though Sofia Coppola did a superb job with Lost in Translation, but that was the year of Peter Jackson

Stringer_Bell
03-08-2010, 01:08 AM
It's pretty alarming that only one woman has won for best director and, counting Ang Lee, only one person of color. And it's something that I, personally, hope changes as it would indicate that more people have access to the tools and connections needed to make a movie on that scale.

When I first heard of Hurt Locker, it was a really low budget commercial about it playing a few film festivals. At some point, someone invested money into making a nice trailer for it and it started catching on. With the exception of Avatar, I think anyone regardless of color or sex has the ability to make a good film that gets recognition. I'm not a fan of affirmative action in film, the best film should be recognized and even though we debate on what is "the best" I don't think there's a conspiracy to withhold awards from women and colored folk.

Starship Troopers deserved an award, that shit was tighhhht.

whottt
03-08-2010, 01:10 AM
Sherlock Holmes was terrible, come on man

I thought it was pretty good actually. And Inglourious Basterdz didn't win because Tarantino stupidly stuck that David Bowie song in it. Was totally out of place and kept that from being a true masterpiece.

Waltz was definitely the no-brainer pick as BSA...should have won best actor though IMO. I have absolutely no clue why he wasn't considered the lead actor in the movie.

Hurt Locker didn't seem like anything spectacular to me. I can see how it would have been better on the big screen though. I probably should have gone to see it that way. Was just an indy film on DVD.

atxrocker
03-08-2010, 01:11 AM
I've heard tons of people give negative feedback regarding that scene, the music didn't bother me in the slightest.

whottt
03-08-2010, 01:14 AM
I've heard tons of people give negative feedback regarding that scene, the music didn't bother me in the slightest.

Maybe to you...but an entire generation of movie fans know that song as the theme song from Cat People. So not only was it glaringly cheesy and out of time in an otherwise excellent film, more destructively it was second hand.

And I liked the movie...and I like that song. The two just didn't go together very well and I think it hurt it. Not that it was going to beat all the hoopla over the first woman director to win though.

You really want to see that song fit a movie, go rent Cat People.

mFFL03
03-08-2010, 01:27 AM
UP was snubbed

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 01:32 AM
When I first heard of Hurt Locker, it was a really low budget commercial about it playing a few film festivals. At some point, someone invested money into making a nice trailer for it and it started catching on. With the exception of Avatar, I think anyone regardless of color or sex has the ability to make a good film that gets recognition. I'm not a fan of affirmative action in film, the best film should be recognized and even though we debate on what is "the best" I don't think there's a conspiracy to withhold awards from women and colored folk.

I don't think it's a conspiracy, either, as it would actually be quite a difficult one to pull off. I do think that there is somewhat of an old boys club in Hollywood, though, that makes it more difficult for women and people of color to make films that have any chance of theatrical release. Especially the type of films honored by the big awards.

Also, at no point have I advocated for people to win awards they don't deserve just to arbitrarily up the diversity levels.



I thought it was pretty good actually. And Inglourious Basterdz didn't win because Tarantino stupidly stuck that David Bowie song in it. Was totally out of place and kept that from being a true masterpiece.


I've heard tons of people give negative feedback regarding that scene, the music didn't bother me in the slightest.

The use of that song bothered me tremendously. Not enough to undo the good of everything else, but it has felt out of place every time I've watched the film.

vander
03-08-2010, 03:01 AM
Avatar was OK, Hurt Locker was a joke, totally lazy story writing, never having to follow up on anything that happens, just making shit up as she went along, it was like Abe Simpson wrote the script or something, and she just modified it to incorporate a renegade main character and lots of "intense" moments, you know, the stuff today's teenage boys would like

also apparently she got a shitload of things/facts wrong about how it is over there and what the Bomb squads actually do, all for the sake of sensationalism

LOL at anyone who thinks the Hurt Locker was good filmmaking

Kermit
03-08-2010, 08:33 AM
Even though I haven't seen her film, I can't believe that there is a lack of bitching about Sandra Bullock. The fact that she has an AA makes my skin crawl. Not the first person to win a Razzie and an AA in the same year.

The Reckoning
03-08-2010, 08:44 AM
QT should have used Gimme Shelter instead...damn i love that song

florige
03-08-2010, 08:57 AM
I thought it was pretty good actually. And Inglourious Basterdz didn't win because Tarantino stupidly stuck that David Bowie song in it. Was totally out of place and kept that from being a true masterpiece.

Waltz was definitely the no-brainer pick as BSA...should have won best actor though IMO. I have absolutely no clue why he wasn't considered the lead actor in the movie.

Hurt Locker didn't seem like anything spectacular to me. I can see how it would have been better on the big screen though. I probably should have gone to see it that way. Was just an indy film on DVD.



Hurt Locker was out in the theaters? I thought that was a straight to DVD film.

redzero
03-08-2010, 09:33 AM
Inglorious Basterds should have won Best Picture.

EmptyMan
03-08-2010, 10:08 AM
Jeff Bridges is a pimp.


That goatee was straight out of the 16th century. :toast

florige
03-08-2010, 10:10 AM
Jeff Bridges is a pimp.


That goatee was straight out of the 16th century. :toast


I'm glad that guy finally got his stuff together.

balli
03-08-2010, 10:21 AM
Jeff Bridges is a pimp.
I was lmao at his acceptance speech. He kept dropping those Hendrix'esque 'maaaaannnnns' all through it.

Spurminator
03-08-2010, 10:54 AM
Even though I haven't seen her film, I can't believe that there is a lack of bitching about Sandra Bullock. The fact that she has an AA makes my skin crawl. Not the first person to win a Razzie and an AA in the same year.

She didn't deserve it... I wanted it to go to Sidibe or Mulligan. But it doesn't make my skin crawl as much as Julia Roberts beating Ellen Burstyn in 2001 or whatever year that was. I like Sandra Bullock's self-deprecating attitude about herself... she even accepted her Razzie in person, which is rare.

smeagol
03-08-2010, 10:57 AM
El Secreto de tus Ojos . . . now there's a great movie!

Amarelooms
03-08-2010, 11:17 AM
District 9 fuckers...that was the best movie this year. They just wanted to give it to a chick director...in the big scheme WGAS :elephant

SpursNextRomanEmpire
03-08-2010, 11:34 AM
I saw Hurt Locker in theater and it was great, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. The only complaint I had with it was that it didn't seem to flow well. It just seemed like a lot if small intense scenes put together such as the second bomb scene, the car bomb scene, the sniper scene, the body bomb, then the whole 'soldier turns crime scene investigator' scene. I'm still glad it won though.

mountainballer
03-08-2010, 11:54 AM
great to finally see Christoph Waltz win an award!
even if most called it the sure fire one before.
it's somehow funny to see a man win, who Austrians knew for about two decades from numerous TV productions. usually he wasn't even the leading actor in most of those films.
props to Tarantino, who like no other director has a gift to find the right actors for his roles and who has the guts to use unknown names or washed up actors. (how many careers have been started or re started thanks to Tarantino? must be three dozen.)

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 12:09 PM
I'm surprised at all the HL hate, especially when you see what else was nominated. IB was OK, but way way too hokey to get best picture. Tarantino's made FAR better films. I actually prefer the first Kill Bill to IB. I know I'm in the minority.

In regards to "how many of you saw this in theaters?" debate, the film was shown in a VERY small number of theaters. The distributors definitely undersold the movie at cinemas, but they'll more than make up for it in home video revenue.

Who cares that the film wasn't one of the highest grossing of the year, the best picture should go to what was the best film, and that was Hurt Locker. I think this is the first time since American Beauty that the academy awards gave best picture to the most deserving film. The closest argument would be No Country For Old Men over There Will Be Blood, but I'm a huge TWBB fan, even though No Country was obviously great.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 12:10 PM
props to Tarantino, who like no other director has a gift to find the right actors for his roles and who has the guts to use unknown names or washed up actors. (how many careers have been started or re started thanks to Tarantino? must be three dozen.)

Agreed, that is one thing Tarantinos will always deserve credit for. WHile his films have become increasingly hokey/cartoonish over the years, his knack for finding talent from people you'd least expect is remarkable.


If it wasn't for him, Travolta would be working as a bar tender somewhere.

CuckingFunt
03-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Even though I haven't seen her film, I can't believe that there is a lack of bitching about Sandra Bullock. The fact that she has an AA makes my skin crawl. Not the first person to win a Razzie and an AA in the same year.

For the first time in a lot of years, I haven't yet seen any of the performances nominated for Best Actress. I don't like Bullock as an actress and everything I've seen about The Blind Side makes me think that film would make my skin crawl, so I have a hard time believing she deserved it, but I could be wrong and therefore can't comment one way or the other.

monosylab1k
03-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Who cares that the film wasn't one of the highest grossing of the year, the best picture should go to what was the best film, and that was Hurt Locker. I think this is the first time since American Beauty that the academy awards gave best picture to the most deserving film. The closest argument would be No Country For Old Men over There Will Be Blood, but I'm a huge TWBB fan, even though No Country was obviously great.

:tu

really this was a pretty weak year for movies. last year was too. imo 2007 had 3 movies better than anything in 08 or 09 (TWBB, NCFOM, and michael clayton)

The Hurt Locker and Inglourious Basterds were easily the two best movies this year, but after watching them I never would have thought either were Best Picture worthy, nomination or win.

benefactor
03-08-2010, 01:45 PM
Serious question. How many of you actually saw The Hurt Locker in the theater? How many of you have rented it? Judging from its numbers at the box office and rentals, I'd say not many of you. This was about as bad as Berry winning Best Actress for Monsters Ball.
That was more agenda driven than anything.

The ceremony also saw both the Best Actor and Best Actress Oscars awarded to African-American actors for the first time in Academy Award history; this, in addition to Sidney Poitier winning the Lifetime Achievement award, led some to dub the ceremony The Bloscars and the "Blackademy Awards". However, some controversy was sparked after Denzel Washington's win. Rumor has it that Russell Crowe was the front runner for the award, which would have marked a second consecutive win for Crowe in the Best Actor category, but a violent episode at the BAFTA ceremony several weeks earlier turned the Academy voters against him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/74th_Academy_Awards

redzero
03-08-2010, 02:00 PM
:tu

really this was a pretty weak year for movies. last year was too. imo 2007 had 3 movies better than anything in 08 or 09 (TWBB, NCFOM, and michael clayton)

The Hurt Locker and Inglourious Basterds were easily the two best movies this year, but after watching them I never would have thought either were Best Picture worthy, nomination or win.

I would say the best movies to come out in the last three years were The Dark Knight, There Will Be Blood, Inglorious Basterds and No Country for Old Men, in that order. But the Academy likes to push certain movies each year, like Slumdog Millionaire and Hurt Locker.

Seriously, I liked Hurt Locker, but it was not that good.

florige
03-08-2010, 02:20 PM
I would say the best movies to come out in the last three years were The Dark Knight, There Will Be Blood, Inglorious Basterds and No Country for Old Men, in that order. But the Academy likes to push certain movies each year, like Slumdog Millionaire and Hurt Locker.

Seriously, I liked Hurt Locker, but it was not that good.



I thought the HL was good. It sorta tailed off towards the end imo.

tlongII
03-08-2010, 02:41 PM
Personally I thought Star Trek was the best movie of the year, but whatchagonnado?

Viva Las Espuelas
03-08-2010, 02:47 PM
This should be renamed the Hurt thread. Lots of butt hurt-edness that the hurt locker won. I admit it wasn't that great a movie but it was no slouch. Avatar. Pffft. That won the Oscar I knew it would. Visual effects. That's pretty much all it deserved and inglorious bastards...... That was eh. A warmed over Tarantino cliche with cliche on the side. It was good not great.

Imposter
03-08-2010, 03:37 PM
The academy should be ashamed of themselves for snubbing Bea Arthur in their memorial session last night. Farrah Fawcett was also noticeably missing.

redzero
03-08-2010, 03:40 PM
This should be renamed the Hurt thread. Lots of butt hurt-edness that the hurt locker won.

Been done, bro.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7580/butthurtlocker.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/butthurtlocker.jpg/)

Viva Las Espuelas
03-08-2010, 03:51 PM
:tu

monosylab1k
03-08-2010, 03:55 PM
The Hurt Locker and Inglourious Basterds were easily the two best movies this year

I take this back. Not sure how I did, but I completely forgot the best movie of the year. probably because it never had a chance in hell of getting a best picture nomination.

It also easily wins best trailer of the year too -

Rhfywi5Y8TM

Spurminator
03-08-2010, 03:59 PM
Did anyone see any of the documentaries that were nominated? They all looked good.

Imposter
03-08-2010, 04:02 PM
Did anyone see any of the documentaries that were nominated? They all looked good.

They all looked pretty interesting. Haven't seen any yet but plan to soon.

monosylab1k
03-08-2010, 04:04 PM
Did anyone see any of the documentaries that were nominated? They all looked good.

I saw The Cove and it was really entertaining.

Viva Las Espuelas
03-08-2010, 04:13 PM
Did anyone see any of the documentaries that were nominated? They all looked good.

They sure did. There was actually a few things i want to see now after seeing the show. I just need to look up what they were.

whottt
03-08-2010, 04:17 PM
The academy should be ashamed of themselves for snubbing Bea Arthur in their memorial session last night. Farrah Fawcett was also noticeably missing.

I think they don't memorialize them if they weren't members of the Screen directors/actors/writers guilds.

I remember thinking the same thing when they didn't show Johnny Cash a few years ago...in addition to actually making several movies,and havcing a top rated tv show, he also had a shitload of songs that were used in movies, including the year he died when, "when the man comes around" was in like 5 different movies....and of course, they had no problem making a movie about Johnny Cash either which was already cast then, which Johnny Cash is credited with writing, just memorializing him because he wasn't in the club.

redzero
03-08-2010, 04:22 PM
I take this back. Not sure how I did, but I completely forgot the best movie of the year. probably because it never had a chance in hell of getting a best picture nomination.

It also easily wins best trailer of the year too -

Rhfywi5Y8TM

I don't know about best movie, but it had an awesome soundtrack.

DarkReign
03-08-2010, 04:41 PM
I dont know what pleasure normal people derive from watching the rich, popular and beautiful suck each other off for endless hours is, but Americans seem to lap that shit up.

The only thing of interest to me is the results (winners and nominees). Not because I give a flying fuck about who won, got robbed or whatever, but because I now have a list of movies that probably wont suck.

J.T.
03-08-2010, 04:48 PM
I dont know what pleasure normal people derive from watching the rich, popular and beautiful suck each other off for endless hours is, but Americans seem to lap that shit up.

Everyone here loves watching millionaires pretend to give a fuck about winning basketball games so I don't know what you're getting at. . .

Strike
03-08-2010, 04:49 PM
They should have given Cameron best director if they were going to award best pic to Hurt Locker. Cameron shouldn't have left empty handed- his film single-handedly moved movie making into a new era.

So did Star Wars in 1977. It didn't win shit.

Strike
03-08-2010, 05:29 PM
Good point. But it doesn't change the fact that just because a movie is ground breaking or game changing doesn't mean it deserves an Oscar. I liked Avatar but I thought the right movie won.

Stringer_Bell
03-08-2010, 05:44 PM
I just realized that Wall-E wasn't even in the best picture running last year, and UP didn't get any nods for its nominations, not even as a darkhorse. Those films were the shit, and in the ruckus over Avatar and Hurt Locker, it seems UP was forgotten.

Both Wall-E and UP are more human and original than those "grown up" movies that get all the credit for being "the best." They aren't just kids movies, can I get witness?!?!

DarkReign
03-08-2010, 06:07 PM
Everyone here loves watching millionaires pretend to give a fuck about winning basketball games so I don't know what you're getting at. . .

Eh, true. Touché.

Trainwreck2100
03-08-2010, 06:31 PM
I just realized that Wall-E wasn't even in the best picture running last year, and UP didn't get any nods for its nominations, not even as a darkhorse. Those films were the shit, and in the ruckus over Avatar and Hurt Locker, it seems UP was forgotten.

Both Wall-E and UP are more human and original than those "grown up" movies that get all the credit for being "the best." They aren't just kids movies, can I get witness?!?!

won for best score

Stringer_Bell
03-08-2010, 06:37 PM
won for best score

My bad, but I meant overall as a best picture nominee...the score was the shit so it's victory was a given.

Trainwreck2100
03-08-2010, 06:50 PM
My bad, but I meant overall as a best picture nominee...the score was the shit so it's victory was a given.

it was good, that intro scene which was basically five minutes of score was great. But I doubt an animated film would ever win best film, shit the "best animated feature" just came out in the last decade.

Stringer_Bell
03-08-2010, 06:56 PM
it was good, that intro scene which was basically five minutes of score was great. But I doubt an animated film would ever win best film, shit the "best animated feature" just came out in the last decade.

True, but I'm not a fan of this whole segregation between animated and non-animated features...and why isn't Avatar treated as animated? I know it's a hybrid, but Space Jam was a hybrid too and I didn't see anyone calling that a groundbreaking film. Just because it's not 3-d or made by the dude from Tititanic doesn't mean it's any better than a 100% animated film.

If we're gonna hold animated films in a "separate but equal" category, we should also do it for films made by women and blacks.

lefty
03-08-2010, 07:14 PM
LOL Avatar

LOL Cameron

LOL @ being owned by his ex-wife :lmao

balli
03-08-2010, 07:16 PM
So did Star Wars in 1977. It didn't win shit.

Yeah, but only because Annie Hall was like the best movie of the 70's.

I agree with Stringer about the animated/non-animated thing. I knew Wall-E wasn't even nominated, but I thought at the time, it should have been. Hell, it might should have won.

Johnny RIngo
03-08-2010, 08:36 PM
Serious question. How many of you actually saw The Hurt Locker in the theater? How many of you have rented it? Judging from its numbers at the box office and rentals, I'd say not many of you. This was about as bad as Berry winning Best Actress for Monsters Ball. The movie was lame. I couldn't wait for both of the main characters to catch a suicide bomb in the face. I guess if you feed people shit long enough, it starts to taste good, but it's still shit. Overall, this was another poor year in film making. The Road should have at least been nominated. Best Director was Cameron's hands down. All of those movies were rehashed from previous films, so what, the guy invented a new technology that has changed the way films will be made forever.

I don't know about that. I really liked The Proposition(Hillcoat's previous film), the book was entertaining enough, and Viggo Mortensen happens to be one of my favorite actors. It just didn't come together(for me at least). I guess my expectations were too high.

Kermit
03-08-2010, 09:10 PM
Yeah, but only because Annie Hall was like the best movie of the 70's.

I agree with Stringer about the animated/non-animated thing. I knew Wall-E wasn't even nominated, but I thought at the time, it should have been. Hell, it might should have won.

Yeah, sure. If you want to live in a fantasy world where the Godfather movies never happened. Wait, was it "like the best movie of the 70's" or "like ONE of the best movies of the 70's"?

Amuseddaysleeper
03-08-2010, 11:27 PM
Wait, lakaluva actually reads?

It's like a whole different world on the Club forum :lol

4>0rings
03-09-2010, 12:52 AM
attica!

Jacob1983
03-09-2010, 01:00 AM
I think the 3D really gets people hooked into thinking that Avatar is a great movie. I will admit that the 3D got to me. After a week or two when I saw Avatar, I started to realize how much the movie was hyped and overrated because of the 3D. If you take away the 3D aspect and special effects of Avatar, it's an average movie at best. The Hurt Locker is a pretty good movie. And you have to admit that the movie came out of nowhere and surprised everyone. The director is hot too. It would not surprise if Jeremy Renner and/or Anthony Mackie got some action from her on the set of The Hurt Locker.

MannyIsGod
03-09-2010, 12:05 PM
Hurt Locker was your stereotypical cowboy soldier who survives on the strength of his character rather than by making sound decisions; typical Hollywood garbage. Really noble the way he got his boy shot at the end too.

If this was what you got out of Hurt Locker than I'd say you missed a lot of it.

MannyIsGod
03-09-2010, 12:10 PM
For sure.

But say what you will about it, Avatar was the most important film of 2009. And Cameron probably put 20x the amount of time and effort into making it, compared to any of his co-nominees. Fuck his visual effects team, he should have taken at least one award home himself.


What? Most important? This is 2010, there was nothing ground breaking about using CGI to make a movie.

MannyIsGod
03-09-2010, 12:33 PM
I haven't seen all of the films that were nominated so I can't really speak to if HL was better than IGB since I've only seen HL but I do know that the way the HL was setup was fairly amazing. The intensity was shown incredibly well and I think the director did an amazing job of transporting you to the scene.

The characters were far deeper than some regular blow shit up soldier movie but I can understand why many people didn't see that. She did a great job of showing how crazy SGT James was and how he manufactured situations to get himself and his team into because that was the only way he could function. Watching him stateside was fairly pitiful. I thought even way from bombs she did a great job with his character in showing how volatile he could be. I thought the sniper scene was fairly amazing on a lot of story telling levels as well.

Avatar was pretty but come the fuck on. I've got computer games with better graphics but I don't think they need to win best picture.

Spurminator
03-09-2010, 12:48 PM
All Avatar had going for it was advanced 3-D technology that made it so you could watch the movie without feeling cross-eyed. It did set a new standard for 3D movies, and even as early as this summer you're going to see most of the blockbuster-type movies transition to 3D. I'd agree it was a very "important" film, probably the most important of last year. But because it has nothing to offer beneath the pretty visuals, it's going to be outdated sooner vs. later.

MannyIsGod
03-09-2010, 01:02 PM
Honestly, when I saw Beauwolf in 3d a few years ago I thought it was no different than Avatar in 3d. If 3d is Avatar's hold to fame then all it did was make it more mainstream, not any better. Its a way for movie companies to give you a 20 cent pair of glasses and charge you another 3 bucks to get in.

monosylab1k
03-09-2010, 01:45 PM
:lol if Avatar was the most important movie of 2009, then by that same logic you'd have to say that Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was the most important movie of 2001. That movie had groundbreaking visuals in much the same way Avatar did. But I doubt anyone would want to give FF that type of acclaim, because the movie sucked. Just like Avatar. The only difference is that one movie had a whole hell of a lot of hype attached to it and the other one didn't.

redzero
03-09-2010, 01:54 PM
:lol if Avatar was the most important movie of 2009, then by that same logic you'd have to say that Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was the most important movie of 2001. That movie had groundbreaking visuals in much the same way Avatar did. But I doubt anyone would want to give FF that type of acclaim, because the movie sucked. Just like Avatar. The only difference is that one movie had a whole hell of a lot of hype attached to it and the other one didn't.

FF's visuals are still impressive nine years later.

I don't even know why people made Best Picture a fight between Avatar and The Hurt Locker. Inglorious Basterds was clearly a better film than Avatar, as well as Up and District 9.

Jacob1983
03-09-2010, 01:56 PM
I think the SFC James character in The Hurt Locker is probably the main reason why the movie is a great movie. His character carries that movie. He's not the typical stereotypical movie soldier. He has no fear and loves what he does. If Jeff Bridges hadn't have been nominated, I really think Jeremy Renner would have a really good shot of winning the Oscar.

Stringer_Bell
03-09-2010, 05:03 PM
He's not the typical stereotypical movie soldier. He has no fear and loves what he does.

That sound pretty typical to me, I liked the portrayals of the military in Generation Kill. A lot of people might be turned off by it, but I think it's accurate and captures the relationships (no homo) between men in combat in a way that isn't always shown. Does the Academy also recognize TV mini-series? Cuz sometimes genius ideas comes out on cable, see my avatar.

ChumpDumper
03-09-2010, 05:21 PM
That sound pretty typical to me, I liked the portrayals of the military in Generation Kill. A lot of people might be turned off by it, but I think it's accurate and captures the relationships (no homo) between men in combat in a way that isn't always shown. Does the Academy also recognize TV mini-series? Cuz sometimes genius ideas comes out on cable, see my avatar.There's a different academy and awards for TV (Emmys).

baseline bum
03-09-2010, 07:05 PM
I haven't seen all of the films that were nominated so I can't really speak to if HL was better than IGB since I've only seen HL but I do know that the way the HL was setup was fairly amazing. The intensity was shown incredibly well and I think the director did an amazing job of transporting you to the scene.

The characters were far deeper than some regular blow shit up soldier movie but I can understand why many people didn't see that. She did a great job of showing how crazy SGT James was and how he manufactured situations to get himself and his team into because that was the only way he could function. Watching him stateside was fairly pitiful. I thought even way from bombs she did a great job with his character in showing how volatile he could be. I thought the sniper scene was fairly amazing on a lot of story telling levels as well.

Avatar was pretty but come the fuck on. I've got computer games with better graphics but I don't think they need to win best picture.

Sounds like your stereotypical Hollywood cowboy soldier to me. The guy was ridiculously incompetent and yet he was the best because he was so brave. I think it's an idiotic premise that doesn't make any sense; bombs and bullets don't care about the size of one's balls. The guy is Rambo, except you're supposed to take him seriously.

jaffies
03-09-2010, 07:40 PM
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Jacob1983
03-10-2010, 12:35 AM
I don't think James' bravery is why he was so good at what he did in The Hurt Locker. It probably helped him he keep calm but being brave does not mean you're good at something. He knew what he was doing and loved it. He was good at what he did. His experience probably helped him too. Plain and simple. And he enjoyed it too. I think that's one reason why he was a likeable character that people rooted for. I can understand people talking shit about Avatar but The Hurt Locker?
Are you serious? :wow

Cant_Be_Faded
08-17-2011, 12:43 AM
Finally saw The Hurt Locker. Pretty bad ass tension throughout that movie...and the ending was fucking awesome. Especially combined with Khyber Pass by Ministry as the perfect background song.....it was as if they wrote that song for that scene. Fuckin tight. Final scene snapped the whole movie into perfect place. Jeremy Renner sure has come a long way since National Lampoon's Senior Trip back in '95. Who says actors can't improve?

Also received bonus points for 3 total Ministry songs in the movie.

Trainwreck2100
08-17-2011, 01:09 AM
too bad it's a "war movie" directed by a woman. Lol winning best director cause you have a vagina.

Trainwreck2100
08-17-2011, 01:10 AM
seriously if a chick's gonna direct a war movie it should be about getting raped or building 1940's era weapons cause that's all they do in war.

CubanSucks
08-17-2011, 01:26 AM
really good movie but a little overrated. District 9, Up, and Inglorious Bastards were all better imo. District 9 should've won

Trainwreck2100
08-17-2011, 01:27 AM
really good movie but a little overrated. District 9, Up, and Inglorious Bastards were all better imo. District 9 should've won

directed by a white man so he was automatically disqualified that year

Booharv
08-17-2011, 04:02 AM
Nothing in that movie was realistic fwiw

I made this post on another forum when the movie came out:




"Though I’m back in Iraq now, I put off seeing the movie, partly because I felt no need to be disturbed by memories that its graphic images would surely raise. But I mentioned the movie to a few soldiers. Predictably, none liked it."

"If there is one rule with the military, it is that there is strength in numbers. No one soldier, no one vehicle, goes out alone. Ever. Four vehicles and a 20-man squad is the minimum that I have worked with in Iraq. A lone Humvee would not be allowed to clear the gate at any base in Iraq.

Yet, in scene after scene, the bomb disposal team, led by Staff Sgt. William James, appears to be fighting the war alone."

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/essay-15/

""Films, almost more than anything, will be the way Americans understand our war," Rieckhoff said. "So we feel that there is a responsibility for filmmakers to portray our war accurately. We see ourselves as watchdogs. . . . When he puts a hood on like Eminem and starts roving outside the wire, it's ridiculous."

Gallucci, a former sergeant who served in Iraq from 2003 to 2004, says he kept hoping James would get "blown up throughout the entire movie. I wanted to see his poor teammates get another team leader, who was actually concerned about their safety.""

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/25/AR2010022506161.html

Lol, when veterans are hoping your main character/soldier gets blown up during the movie thats saying something.

"“It’s a Hollywood fantasy version of reality,” said Paul Rieckhoff, founder of the 150,000-member Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, who served in Iraq. “It’s a compelling film. But when it comes down to the technical and tactical scenes, it’s pretty ridiculous. This criticism has been constant from within the military community. The guy is a reckless, go-it-alone guy, which the film celebrates. That is the opposite of what the American military is all about,” he said."

"“Any of us as team leaders would have immediately been decertified, at best, for either one of those stunts. Going outside the base alone would probably result in an immediate trip to jail.” He added: “It is a minor joke around the shop, when we go out, to ask one another where our hoodies are.”"

Lol again at the movie being a punch line.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/oscars/article7050384.ece

"Some of the scenes are so disconnected with reality to be almost parody."

http://defensetech.org/2009/07/10/hurt-locker-is-a-blast-without-the-spark/

I could go on but it gets redundant there's like 20 articles of Vets ridiculing that movie. To be fair some vets like it but even they don't defend its technical accuracy. Click on these if you must its just more of the same (skip to the next paragraph after the links otherwise).

http://www.newsweek.com/id/234064

http://friendfeed.com/movie-reviews/4695041b/veterans-why-hurt-locker-isn-t-reality

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-hoit/the-hurt-locker-doesnt-ge_b_449043.html

http://www.helium.com/items/1765887-why-some-military-veterans-do-not-support-the-movie-the-hurt-locker

http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/02/17/veterans-fact-check-the-hurt-locker/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124319820



I know pretty much everyone knows this already, but still...

Trainwreck2100
08-17-2011, 06:45 AM
Nothing in that movie was realistic fwiw

I made this post on another forum when the movie came out:



I know pretty much everyone knows this already, but still...

see:woman
see:war movie

Trainwreck2100
08-17-2011, 06:47 AM
seriously if a chick's gonna direct a war movie it should be about getting raped or building 1940's era weapons cause that's all they do in war.

sons i want to apologize for this horrible post, women do other stuff in wartime like triage nurse. Or fuck around and their man and spend their money when they are risking their lives on the other side of the world

cheguevara
08-17-2011, 07:48 AM
Nothing in that movie was realistic fwiw

I made this post on another forum when the movie came out:



I know pretty much everyone knows this already, but still...

it was a movie. if they had tried to make it realistic they woulda put little children's dead heads and body parts on multiple scenes.

again its a hollywood movie. And as that it was a pretty damn good one, especially if you blast the speakers. It's definitely a hard choice between that and Avatar and District 9.

cheguevara
08-17-2011, 07:50 AM
""Films, almost more than anything, will be the way Americans understand our war," Rieckhoff said. "So we feel that there is a responsibility for filmmakers to portray our war accurately. We see ourselves as watchdogs. . . . When he puts a hood on like Eminem and starts roving outside the wire, it's ridiculous."

this is the most retarded statement I heard in a long time.

First of all, nothing put on film will make you understand what it's like to be at war. And in the end there is nothing to understand about war. It's children being put on a meat grinder for political purposes. what is to understand about that?

Bill_Brasky
08-17-2011, 09:27 AM
Wasn't a fan of Hurt Locker...everybody was jizzing their pants over it and I really have no idea why. Avatar was decent, but Basterds was probably my favorite.

Agitator
08-17-2011, 09:52 AM
it was a movie. if they had tried to make it realistic they woulda put little children's dead heads and body parts on multiple scenes.

again its a hollywood movie. And as that it was a pretty damn good one, especially if you blast the speakers. It's definitely a hard choice between that and Avatar and District 9.

hurt locker was better

no contest there

lefty
08-17-2011, 09:59 AM
Inception, Hurt Locker and Avatar equally suck

cheguevara
08-17-2011, 10:03 AM
hurt locker was better

no contest there

different movies.

Avatar was a family movie with a real lame unoriginal theme

District 9 was completely original and a real sci fi with social themes

Hurt Locker was more like a suspense/rock and roll ride

all good

scampers
08-17-2011, 10:24 AM
Hurt Locker was such a piece of shit. Star Trek is more realistic/believable.

Cane
08-17-2011, 10:32 AM
different movies.

Avatar was a family movie with a real lame unoriginal theme

District 9 was completely original and a real sci fi with social themes

Hurt Locker was more like a suspense/rock and roll ride

all good

Tbh Hurt Locker also seemed lame and unoriginal

Cant_Be_Faded
08-17-2011, 11:26 AM
Tbh Hurt Locker also seemed lame and unoriginal

No i think che has a point. But i think its silly to call out the hurt locker for not being accurate. Its a movie for goodness sake. The movie was well done, i give that chick credit. I don't think its one of the best movies ever or anything but i expected it to be mad overrated and i was wrong. Its a good flick definitely worth watching. I place it ahead of district 9 overall cuz while i dig scifi, something about that movie just did not flow very well. The plot seemed rushed and under developed at one point then too slow the next. It was good but i liked hurt locker better.

Prime1
08-17-2011, 11:54 AM
I don't know reading that post made me think less of the movie. Somehow I had never heard any of that. Most war movies are accurate...or at least ones like Platoon and Saving Private Ryan from what I've read about those two. Its not hard to make a realistic war movie and have it be good.

Amuseddaysleeper
08-17-2011, 12:53 PM
While there may be some issues with "Hurt Locker", it still was better than any of the other films nominated for that year. Then again we live in a society where "Raging Bull" and "There Will Be Blood" are without Best picture wins, so at least the academy got the Hurt locker year right.


oh, and social network > king's speech :toast

CubanSucks
08-17-2011, 03:19 PM
While there may be some issues with "Hurt Locker", it still was better than any of the other films nominated for that year. Then again we live in a society where "Raging Bull" and "There Will Be Blood" are without Best picture wins, so at least the academy got the Hurt locker year right.


oh, and social network > king's speech :toast

Ummm There Will Be Blood didn't win because there was a movie that year that was better in NCFOM. AT LEAST on par with it. I think better examples would be Goodfellas losing to Dances With Wolves and Saving Private Ryan losing to Shakespeare In Love

CubanSucks
08-17-2011, 03:21 PM
it was a movie. if they had tried to make it realistic they woulda put little children's dead heads and body parts on multiple scenes.

again its a hollywood movie. And as that it was a pretty damn good one, especially if you blast the speakers. It's definitely a hard choice between that and Avatar and District 9.

wait, you're kidding, right?

Monostradamus
08-17-2011, 03:22 PM
Ummm There Will Be Blood didn't win because there was a movie that year that was better in NCFOM. AT LEAST on par with it. I think better examples would be Goodfellas losing to Dances With Wolves and Saving Private Ryan losing to Shakespeare In Love

There was a time when I might have rated NCFOM higher, but after repeat viewings I don't think the two movies are anywhere close. TWBB is a masterpiece in every way, NCFOM is just a really good movie.

NCFOM winning was the Academy throwing the Coen Brothers a bone after years of screwing them over, nothing more. PT Anderson will get his Oscar glory one day, with a movie probably far inferior to There Will Be Blood.

cheguevara
08-17-2011, 03:29 PM
get real mofos.

like Platton or Apocalypse Now are accurate??? :lmao

and they are undeniably top 5 best war movies ever.

tlongII
08-17-2011, 03:30 PM
District 9 sucked.

cheguevara
08-17-2011, 03:31 PM
to the "not accurate" assholes, wanna see a real accurate war movie? check out Johnny Got His Gun. that's the real shit right ther

http://ferdyonfilms.com/johnny_got_his_gun3.jpg

Monostradamus
08-17-2011, 03:33 PM
also, take out the first 20 minutes and Saving Private Ryan becomes a pretty shitty movie.

cheguevara
08-17-2011, 03:38 PM
some idiots even say Shindler's List was accurate. Really? naked jewish men with 12 inch cocks walking around in sub zero temperatures?? don't act like you didn't notice

CubanSucks
08-17-2011, 03:41 PM
also, take out the first 20 minutes and Saving Private Ryan becomes a pretty shitty movie.

you're a fucking moron koriwhat 2.0

Monostradamus
08-17-2011, 03:50 PM
you're a fucking moron koriwhat 2.0

says the dipshit who thinks Foster The People is better than Radiohead :lmao

baseline bum
08-17-2011, 04:07 PM
Nothing in that movie was realistic fwiw

I made this post on another forum when the movie came out:



I know pretty much everyone knows this already, but still...

Haha... Hurt Locker sucked so much.

baseline bum
08-17-2011, 04:09 PM
also, take out the first 20 minutes and Saving Private Ryan becomes a pretty shitty movie.

What about the part when you see that fucker get blown up by the tank? It almost makes up for having to watch Tom Hanks the previous 2 hours.

Monostradamus
08-17-2011, 04:31 PM
What about the part when you see that fucker get blown up by the tank? It almost makes up for having to watch Tom Hanks the previous 2 hours.

True....also watching the overly stereotyped Jew get stabbed in the heart was entertaining.

CubanSucks
08-17-2011, 11:11 PM
says the dipshit who thinks Foster The People is better than Radiohead :lmao

:lmao don't mean to embarrass you breh but I never said that. :lmao It's ok, we all make mistakes :lmao

Prime1
08-18-2011, 01:42 AM
get real mofos.

like Platton or Apocalypse Now are accurate??? :lmao

and they are undeniably top 5 best war movies ever.

I like to read books about Hollywood, cinema, etc. and from what I've Platoon is generally regarded as extremely accurate.

redzero
08-18-2011, 05:08 AM
There was a time when I might have rated NCFOM higher, but after repeat viewings I don't think the two movies are anywhere close. TWBB is a masterpiece in every way, NCFOM is just a really good movie.

NCFOM winning was the Academy throwing the Coen Brothers a bone after years of screwing them over, nothing more. PT Anderson will get his Oscar glory one day, with a movie probably far inferior to There Will Be Blood.

I thought There Will Be Blood was better from the very beginning, but I really don't have a problem with No Country For Old Men winning Best Picture. It's not as bad as The Hurt Locker beating out Inglorious Basterds and District 9.

cheguevara
08-18-2011, 09:30 AM
I like to read books about Hollywood, cinema, etc. and from what I've Platoon is generally regarded as extremely accurate.

yes especialy the part where Willem Dafoe takes 157 vietcong bullets in the back and is still raising his arms and screaming at the top of his lungs. :lmao :lmao

CubanSucks
08-18-2011, 03:13 PM
I thought There Will Be Blood was better from the very beginning, but I really don't have a problem with No Country For Old Men winning Best Picture. It's not as bad as The Hurt Locker beating out Inglorious Basterds and District 9.

:tu

Prime1
08-18-2011, 03:32 PM
There should honestly be like a quota or a limit on the number of laughing emoticons people can use here per day.

Anyways...


yes especialy the part where Willem Dafoe takes 157 vietcong bullets in the back and is still raising his arms and screaming at the top of his lungs. :lmao :lmao

Way to exaggerate. People have been shot multiple times before and still been able to run. Many have lived despite being shot a ton of times. Even if I was to concede that that one particular scene was unrealistic, most vets praised Platoon and said Stone really nailed what it was really like to be over there. From what I've read a lot of people said it was the first movie to really do that. Meanwhile Vets were so angry over Hurt Locker they hated the movie and wanted the main character to die.

BRHornet45
08-18-2011, 04:26 PM
The Hurt Locker received all of the Oscar hype for one reason and one reason only - The female director used to be married to James Cameron so it created a fascinating headline with those two competing against one another with Locker vs Avatar.

At best The Hurt Locker was a decent to good war movie, but was absolutely nothing special and definitely not worth all of the hype and awards it received. Maybe an Oscar nod or two for the editing and sound, but that's it. Also I'm a fan of Jeremy Renner, but even his acting was terribly overrated in this movie as well. Renners acting in "The Town" however was definitely worth his supporting actor nomination.

cheguevara
08-19-2011, 08:49 AM
There should honestly be like a quota or a limit on the number of laughing emoticons people can use here per day.

Anyways...



Way to exaggerate. People have been shot multiple times before and still been able to run. Many have lived despite being shot a ton of times. Even if I was to concede that that one particular scene was unrealistic, most vets praised Platoon and said Stone really nailed what it was really like to be over there. From what I've read a lot of people said it was the first movie to really do that. Meanwhile Vets were so angry over Hurt Locker they hated the movie and wanted the main character to die.

you cannot seriously compare Vietnam vets to Iraq vets. Just because they are both vets does not mean they think alike. Different war, different part of the world and different generation.

are you serious?

again, the only 100% realistic war movie is Johnny Got His Gun. The rest are all in the same group: Hollywood BS movies.

Cant_Be_Faded
08-19-2011, 12:55 PM
yes especialy the part where Willem Dafoe takes 157 vietcong bullets in the back and is still raising his arms and screaming at the top of his lungs. :lmao :lmao

crofl, sad to say i never saw that movie until about a year ago, and that scene made me laugh so hard it was difficult to take the rest of the movie seriously. Fuckin Dafoe was hilarious in that over dramatic cry as he pleaded to the heavens for succor

Quadzilla99
08-19-2011, 12:58 PM
rofl ragging on Platoon. You guys just confirmed you have shitty taste in movies. That was only like the best scene in the whole film.

cheguevara
08-19-2011, 01:02 PM
rofl ragging on Platoon. You guys just confirmed you have shitty taste in movies. That was only like the best scene in the whole film.

try to keep up.

Nobody is saying that Platoon sucked. Just pointing out to the "that's not accurate" nerds that just like Hurt Locker, it's full of Hollywood innacuracies.

Quadzilla99
08-19-2011, 01:03 PM
Platoon's extremely accurate. My father served in Vietnam and he absolutely loved that movie. He certainly wasn't rooting for Charlie Sheen's character to die he hated it so much like it appears vets were rooting for Renner's character during this other movie.

cheguevara
08-19-2011, 01:09 PM
yes. especially that Dafoe scene or the way Sheen's hair is perfectly combed throughout the entire movie

Look Platton might be pretty accurate. Still it's a Hollywood movie and will never make civilians understand the Vietnam war.

cheguevara
08-19-2011, 01:15 PM
btw, black vietnam veterans have called Platton as being very innacurate on its portrayal of black soldiers.

Isitjustme?
08-19-2011, 01:30 PM
This cheguevera guy was pretty touched by the Hurt Locker apparently.

cheguevara
08-19-2011, 01:43 PM
This cheguevera guy was pretty touched by the Hurt Locker apparently.

not really. It's an ok movie. I did enjoy it tbh. But I probably give Avatar or District 9 the nod over it.

I just find funny the thinking of the nerds that say "that movie sucked cause it was not accurate. not accurate!"

it's fucking hollywood :lmao

CubanSucks
08-19-2011, 02:43 PM
not really. It's an ok movie. I did enjoy it tbh. But I probably give Avatar or District 9 the nod over it.

I just find funny the thinking of the nerds that say "that movie sucked cause it was not accurate. not accurate!"

it's fucking hollywood :lmao

District 9 > Inglorious Basterds > Hurt Locker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avatar