An open letter to Brendan Haywood

[monosylab1k]

Dear Brendan,

First off, let me say that it's been a delight to watch you play as a Maverick. You've been everything this team needs in the paint - tough, strong, and athletic. You can actually catch a basketball, which immediately makes you light years better than the vagina we've had playing center here the the past half-decade.

But there's something that concerns me. You haven't been on the court lately. The reports are of "lower back tightness" which I understand probably isn't too comfortable an affliction to have. However, I wonder if it means you need to be missing work. I'm pretty sure lower back tightness is something that many Americans deal with every day, and nobody calls in sick because of it.

I don't mean to belittle you, I just want to say this - skipping games because of "lower back tightness" might have flown in Washington, but this is Dallas. This is the Western Conference. You're playing with the big boys now. Time to put on those big boy pants.

Sack up.

Love,

monosylab1k

[monosylab1k]

I never thought I'd live to see the day Matt Carroll played center, but now I have.

That's all I'm saying here.

[Pelicans78]

Back injuries can be tricky. Need to find out whether its from muscle spasms or disc injury. If its muscle spasms, give him some anti-inflammatories, stretching exercises, and different pain patches and he should get back on the court quickly.

[pking]

Missed the first quarter -- what was the starting lineup?

I am actually inclined to agree to an extent but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt this time :lol

[dirk4mvp]

I never thought I'd live to see the day Matt Carroll played center, but now I have.


:wow I though the low point of professional basketball was watching Devan George start at the 5. Maybe that's been topped.

[monosylab1k]

Missed the first quarter -- what was the starting lineup?

I am actually inclined to agree to an extent but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt this time :lol

the starting lineup was fine, but then Dirk got into foul trouble, along with Najera and Marion, and suddenly the team's most viable options down low were seriously DeShawn Stevenson and Matt Carroll.

[Sigz]

I don't think Haywood reads this forum.

[Goran Dragic]

I don't think Haywood reads this forum.


Neither does Becky Hammon.

[pking]

the starting lineup was fine, but then Dirk got into foul trouble, along with Najera and Marion, and suddenly the team's most viable options down low were seriously DeShawn Stevenson and Matt Carroll.

Not sorry I missed that :lol

[lurker]

I don't think Haywood reads this forum.
I can't believe we don't have a Haywood troll yet.

[dallaskd]

You obviously have never had lower back pain. Oh, and I cant wait to read the script of The White Lady and her 7 Androids.

when you have lower back pain, its almost impossible to walk. mavs have good trainers. he needs to ice then heat. and do some nerve therapy and he should be ready to go next week. i had lower back pain all the time playing ball in high school

[Allanon]

An open letter to Mono


I'm a fucking coward that runs when I lose a bet

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4110682&postcount=82

Allanon- There's a date and time on it if I edited it now. I can specifically find the post where I said he was a "role player" FIRST.

You take the bet or not you pussy shit?

Mono - Ok I take that bet.

Allanon - I showed you where "role player" was. I won.

Change your sig to "I'm Allanon's bitch", Mono. :lol

[PGDynasty24]

Since when are the Mavericks the big boys? Big boys of regular season? If that then yes

[monosylab1k]

You obviously have never had lower back pain. Oh, and I cant wait to read the script of The White Lady and her 7 Androids.

Happens all the time to me. It's rough but you can fight through it. Especially when your employer pays you millions of dollars to do so.

[monosylab1k]

Since when are the Mavericks the big boys? Big boys of regular season? If that then yes

:lol I like how Laker fans display just how insecure they feel about playing the Mavericks in the playoffs.

[Findog]

They're up 17 on the Puppies without him. I'm sure he'd be playing if they were going up against the Cavs, Lakers, Nuggets, etc...

[mystargtr34]

Who is defending Al Jefferson. Dirk?

[Muser]

Since when are the Mavericks the big boys? Big boys of regular season? If that then yes

Since the Lakers started to suck ass.

[Findog]

Who is defending Al Jefferson. Dirk?

nobody

[Sigz]

Neither does Becky Hammon.

I don't write letters to Becky Hammon dickhead.

[Goran Dragic]

Who is defending Al Jefferson. Dirk?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712080MIN.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801230MIN.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200811260MIN.html

I think Dallas traded for Amare overnight :lol

[Goran Dragic]

I don't write letters to Becky Hammon


I figured she was freaked out at how many you sent and eventually got a restraining order.

[Sigz]

I figured she was freaked out at how many you sent and eventually got a restraining order.

Why don't you go suck on Goran's neck mole? Get da FUCK outta heeeere.

[JamStone]

I've thrown my back out three times in my life. That's the major times. I've had my back act up a bunch of other times to a lesser degree. I have a pretty bad lower back. It really does suck. First two times was from playing basketball, trying to dunk and landing flat-footed. It's a touchy thing. It's not something that really goes away and it's easily aggravated. Rest won't necessarily help it. Once you have a bad lower back, you're probably going to have back problems the rest of your life. So, I agree to a certain extent that he should just play through it if it's more of a discomfort than pain. But, if and when he does, it won't be surprising if he aggravates it at some point and/or make it worse.

[Come_On_Now]

Why should Brendan play against a lowly team like the T-pups? I'm glad he's getting rest.

[monosylab1k]

Why should Brendan play against a lowly team like the T-pups? I'm glad he's getting rest.

The Mavs are lucky Johnny Flynn decided to play for Dallas tonight, and that Kurt Rambis is a moron. Al Jefferson should have taken every shot all night, he was killing everybody, and with Dirk/Najera in foul trouble there were literally times when Stevenson or Carroll had to guard him.

[Rogue]

Dear Brendan,

First off, let me say that it's been a delight to watch you play as a Maverick. You've been everything this team needs in the paint - tough, strong, and athletic. You can actually catch a basketball, which immediately makes you light years better than the vagina we've had playing center here the the past half-decade.

But there's something that concerns me. You haven't been on the court lately. The reports are of "lower back tightness" which I understand probably isn't too comfortable an affliction to have. However, I wonder if it means you need to be missing work. I'm pretty sure lower back tightness is something that many Americans deal with every day, and nobody calls in sick because of it.

I don't mean to belittle you, I just want to say this - skipping games because of "lower back tightness" might have flown in Washington, but this is Dallas. This is the Western Conference. You're playing with the big boys now. Time to put on those big boy pants.

Sack up.

Love,

monosylab1k
As much as how important Brendan is, he still doesn't have the privilege to bonk games as O Motherfucking Neal did. At most Brendan is a blue collar on Mavericks squad that has to work off his injury until the medical staff makes a sound.

Instead I guess Brendan doesn't have any serious injury, or at least his injury isn't so severe to tug him off the games even if he has one. It's probably just an activation they wove up for Dampier who has been also sidelined with an injured middle finger of right hand. hopes for Dampier's return in next game.

[Rogue]

the starting lineup was fine, but then Dirk got into foul trouble, along with Najera and Marion, and suddenly the team's most viable options down low were seriously DeShawn Stevenson and Matt Carroll.
that's why it was quite a massive loss to lose Drew Gooden. you got a better guy at C but it cost another guy who had been playing this position fairly well. The only ascendant part is a healthy Butler in place of Smokey Howard who had been injury plagued and is already done for season, but it doesn't make it a shrewd deal by any means.

[angelbelow]

You obviously have never had lower back pain. Oh, and I cant wait to read the script of The White Lady and her 7 Androids.

Agreed. Playing on a bad lower back can lead to far more devastating things like a pinched nerve and chronic back problems. Not to mention back spasms.

[Halberto]

Happens all the time to me. It's rough but you can fight through it. Especially when your employer pays you millions of dollars to do so.


Yeah... no you haven't. You might have, but probably a slight case of it. Back pain = worst pain ever. It can turn the toughest guy into a little girl within seconds. I can only imagine what its like for the dude since he's so big.

It's definitely something you want a key player to rest on. Besides, havent the Mavs won 12 in a row? There are plenty of games left for chemistry building and theres no need to rush him back.

[Findog]

We don't need Haywood until Chicago on the 17th.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao I forget all these fat Spurs Fans post in this forum, so yeah they probably all do have terrible back problems.

I'm discussing trained athletes and people that are in shape. Your back pain that prevents you from getting to Pancho's for happy hour doesn't matter to me.

[jacobdrj]

Trained athletes, who are 7 ft tall, are no less susceptible to back problems. It has to do with the fact they are playing on feet designed for lighter weight while wearing shoes and doing things on hardwood that the foot/knee/back was never designed for.

And belittling Haywood for being in the East is a mute point when he was playing on the Whizz the whole time he was there... EC basketball on good squads is rough because of the constant defense... something the Whizz never indulged in.

[monosylab1k]

Randy Moss played 16 games in the NFL with a bad back this year, which is far more physical and rougher on the body than basketball.

Haywood is being a pussy. End of story.

[TJastal]

Why don't you go suck on Goran's neck mole? Get da FUCK outta heeeere.

:lol :rollin :lmao

[jacobdrj]

Randy Moss played 16 games in the NFL with a bad back this year, which is far more physical and rougher on the body than basketball.

Haywood is being a pussy. End of story.

Football is on grass. Basketball is on wood. The foot/knee/back system was designed to work on grass, not on hard flat surfaces. It is why football/baseball players don't like to play on artificial surfaces. And Randy Moss isn't 7ft 260... He is 6ft 4in and 210... Big difference.

[DAF86]

Neither does Becky Hammon.

I wouldn't be so sure. You put "San Ant" in google and the second or third option you get is "SpursTalk".

[monosylab1k]

Football is on grass. Basketball is on wood. The foot/knee/back system was designed to work on grass, not on hard flat surfaces. It is why football/baseball players don't like to play on artificial surfaces. And Randy Moss isn't 7ft 260... He is 6ft 4in and 210... Big difference.

So are you really trying to make the point that basketball players take more physical punishment than football players? :lmao

[monosylab1k]

Sorry, it's just ridiculous to try and make the point that jumping up and down on hardwood is more punishing to the human back than getting gang tackled by the Baltimore Ravens.

[mavsfan1000]

that's why it was quite a massive loss to lose Drew Gooden. you got a better guy at C but it cost another guy who had been playing this position fairly well. The only ascendant part is a healthy Butler in place of Smokey Howard who had been injury plagued and is already done for season, but it doesn't make it a shrewd deal by any means.
Najera>Gooden. Gooden's IQ is so low that he needs a big scoring game just to make up for his boneheaded plays on offense and defense. Haywood and Dampier coming back will give us 48 minutes of defense and rebounding. Looking forward to that.

[mavs>spurs2]

Najera>Gooden. Gooden's IQ is so low that he needs a big scoring game just to make up for his boneheaded plays on offense and defense. Haywood and Dampier coming back will give us 48 minutes of defense and rebounding. Looking forward to that.

didn't gooden put up something close to 20 and 20 a couple of times for us? I wouldn't go so far as to say "Najera>Gooden" because that's just a blatant lie. I really wish that rumor would have came true that the Wiz were going to cut Gooden and he might come back to us. We knew that the guy wasn't a great defender when we signed him, so you really can't fault the guy for his contributions while he was here. He fully filled expectations and had some big games for us, without which our record would be a few games worse and we wouldn't be in this position we're in, 2nd place and only 2.5 games back from LA.

[jacobdrj]

So are you really trying to make the point that basketball players take more physical punishment than football players? :lmao

No, you did that. I am saying that you shouldn't dismiss the 82+ game grind on oversized bodies doing things they were never intended to over the course of a career that lasts, on average 2 to 4 times longer than an NFL player.

[jacobdrj]

Sorry, it's just ridiculous to try and make the point that jumping up and down on hardwood is more punishing to the human back than getting gang tackled by the Baltimore Ravens.

Again, I never said that. I said there are injuries coming from other sources, not to mention the shear length of the season. You have a week to recover between games in the NFL. You don't even have a day sometimes in the NBA. How many times would players have to sit out in the NFL had they to play every other night?

[mavsfan1000]

didn't gooden put up something close to 20 and 20 a couple of times for us? I wouldn't go so far as to say "Najera>Gooden" because that's just a blatant lie. I really wish that rumor would have came true that the Wiz were going to cut Gooden and he might come back to us. We knew that the guy wasn't a great defender when we signed him, so you really can't fault the guy for his contributions while he was here. He fully filled expectations and had some big games for us, without which our record would be a few games worse and we wouldn't be in this position we're in, 2nd place and only 2.5 games back from LA.
Though Gooden is bigger than Najera, Najera plays bigger (more physical) than Gooden. He can also space the floor for Dallas in that small ball lineup causing teams all sort of problems. When Najera first came here in the Humphries deal, I wasn't impressed at all. He has gotten much better since and is really working on his game. He is smart enough to be effective in a zone defense. I doubt Gooden could be effective in a zone defense. We need Haywood and Dampier back but Najera has held down the fort until then.

[monosylab1k]

Again, I never said that. I said there are injuries coming from other sources, not to mention the shear length of the season. You have a week to recover between games in the NFL. You don't even have a day sometimes in the NBA. How many times would players have to sit out in the NFL had they to play every other night?

There's a reason games are only played once a week in the NFL. Because it's far and away more physically punishing than any other sport.

There's a reason basketball games are played several times a week. Because it's not physically punshing at all.

[jacobdrj]

There's a reason games are only played once a week in the NFL. Because it's far and away more physically punishing than any other sport.

Again, not arguing that the NFL isn't more punishing. But you can't dismiss the lack of recovery time in the NBA, the longer season, the larger bodies (that make more contact than is given credit for) on a hard surface causes injuries. Football players do have an advantage in recovery time, length of season, length of play time (most NFL games have around 20 minutes of actual on the field play) and play (often) on grass. They get their injuries from full contact, but the NBA players who go though the grind who don't get a chance to recover become susceptible to long term degenerative conditions like back injuries. Just because Randy Moss can play 10 minutes a week on a sore back doesn't belittle Haywood playing 120 minutes a week for 6 months with minimal recovery time.

Marathon vs Sprint. Apples to Oranges. Injuries are different, but are no less injuries.

On a similar note, football players, due to the nature of the game, can play with injuries a basketball player can't. A D-Lineman can play with a cast on his hand. Even the most offensively challenged NBA super-defenseman would be absolutely worthless if his hand was in a full cast.

[monosylab1k]

:lol take a look at an NFL player's body at the end of a season and then have the nerve to tell them that their season isn't a "marathon". Tell them they live in a cupcake world where they have an entire week to recover which means basketball players are tougher than them :lmao

[monosylab1k]

Basketball players are in the middle of the spectrum. They aren't completely pussies like baseball players, but they're nowhere near as tough or as physically challenged as football players. that's the bottom line.

"lower back tightness" is no excuse to sit out for......well half a week now. I guess he should go play in the NFL with that kind of cupcake recover time.

[JamStone]

Don't know about the Randy Moss example, mono. He is a wide receiver. You're not talking about a lineman or running back or linebacker. Wide receivers can often avoid contact, can alligator arm passes where they might get hit, run out of bounds before getting hit, and what not. Now, perhaps Randy Moss is still a badass and puts his head down and takes hits, maybe he still went up the middle for passes, maybe he still blocked for running plays like a pulling guard. I don't know. But, a wide receiver isn't the best example of a football player being tough playing through back problems. If it were a running back who takes 25 carries a game and is an in between the tackles, north-south runner, it would have more merit as an example.

So you take one of the softer football positions and compare it to the center position in basketball, where they are constantly banging down low, forearms in their lower back all the time, getting pushed in the back, constantly jumping up and down shocking the back.

In general, football player are tougher than basketball players. But, there are varying degrees. And football wideout versus basketball center kind of skews the comparison.

[Phillip]

So you take one of the softer football positions and compare it to the center position in basketball, where they are constantly banging down low, forearms in their lower back all the time, getting pushed in the back, constantly jumping up and down shocking the back.

In general, football player are tougher than basketball players. But, there are varying degrees. And football wideout versus basketball center kind of skews the comparison.

That shit is no joke. A well placed push to the lower back when coming down from a jump can really fuck your entire back up, and it doesnt even have to be a hard push. Just enough to mess with your balancing, and the landing suddenly feels 10 times heavier.

And the example Mono gave of Moss getting gang tackled by the Ravens makes no sense, because stuff like that RARELY happens with receivers. Usually it is a one-on-one with a CB or safety. Also, consider that football players have padding up the ass to absorb the blows, as well as a week to recover, where-as in basketball you have to play every other day at least. Not to mention that in basketball, if you play 36 minutes, the majority of that time you are going to be running, jumping, setting picks, rebounding, etc... there is very little down time that you can just sit and do nothing. On the other hand, in football, if an offense is on the field for 30-35 minutes, they probably only actulaly spend about 5-10 minutes of that time actually doing heavy physical activity (possibly less depending on their tempo and style of play), because your average play only lasts like 3-6 seconds, then you have 30-40 seconds of time to chill as the team calls plays and uses clock. You can get away with playing with a jacked back if you just have small, controlled spurts in which you are playing with pain (football), as opposed to 5-10 minutes of straight playing time, in which the muscles get tired from constant use, and become even more susceptible to injury (basketball).

While football is more brutally taxing, basketball is without question a much tougher long-term grind than football, which is why it makes sense to let someone like Haywood rest up over smaller injuries, especially when the playoffs are almost here, and you are already shorthanded on big men as is (a quality big man at that, which is a rare commodity these days). Basketball and football injuries are and have to be approached in a MUCH different manner.

[Goran Dragic]

While football is more brutally taxing, basketball is without question a much tougher long-term grind than football


I'm sure all the retired NFL players with injuries that will affect them for the rest of their lives agree with you.

[Goran Dragic]

As far as Haywood we have no idea how bad his back pain is so it's hard to say. Lower back injuries you need to be careful with because they could lead to things like herniated disks if an athlete tried to play through something he shouldn't.

[resistanze]

Football by far is more physically grinding than basketball. The average football player's brain looks like pudding at age 40.

But basketball is no joke either. Hell, when I developed lower back problems a year ago I couldn't even make T-Mac jokes anymore. Some days it's a challenge to get out of bed, yet alone participate in weekly pick-up basketball.

[monosylab1k]

I'm sure all the retired NFL players with injuries that will affect them for the rest of their lives agree with you.

:lol most retired football players can barely walk and their entire body is crooked, but yeah as they say, NFL player careers are a "sprint" with all kinds of easy recovery time, and NBA players have the long-term deteriorating grind on their bodies.

[Phillip]

I'm sure all the retired NFL players with injuries that will affect them for the rest of their lives agree with you.

I meant that in terms of the season.

Yeah, in the end, football fucks you up more because of the concussions, big hits, and shit. Im was saying that in regards to playing with injuries, it would be tougher to play 30+ minutes a game for 82 basketball games with a fucked up back, as opposed to 5 minutes a game for 16 football games.

[mavs>spurs2]

Though Gooden is bigger than Najera, Najera plays bigger (more physical) than Gooden. He can also space the floor for Dallas in that small ball lineup causing teams all sort of problems. When Najera first came here in the Humphries deal, I wasn't impressed at all. He has gotten much better since and is really working on his game. He is smart enough to be effective in a zone defense. I doubt Gooden could be effective in a zone defense. We need Haywood and Dampier back but Najera has held down the fort until then.

What does this have to do with Gooden's contributions to the Mavs this year?

Yeah, Najera is a decent guy to have on the bench as a 12th man. He's a great hustle/energy guy. But a 30 something year old player getting "much better" all the sudden in a couple weeks? :lmao get outta here with that son. Najera just made the adjustment and is starting to find his niche with the team. He doesn't bring anything Gooden brought to the table. For long stretches this season, Gooden was the only Mav capable of scoring in the post. Also, Najera won't ever give you a 20/20 game, ever.

Anyway this wasn't a bash against Najera, I like him on the roster, the point is that without Gooden's contributions the Mavs would be a few games back from where we are, rather than 2nd place and only 2.5 games back from the Lakeshow.

[Goran Dragic]

No, you did that. I am saying that you shouldn't dismiss the 82+ game grind on oversized bodies doing things they were never intended to over the course of a career that lasts, on average 2 to 4 times longer than an NFL player.


Hmmm I wonder why NBA careers last longer.......it could have something to do with the fact that shit like getting hit by Ray Lewis on a weekly basis is more physically taxing on your body than basketball.

[monosylab1k]

And playing center in the NBA isn't really all about toughness imo. You've gotta be big and strong, you've gotta handle some pushing and shoving, but I don't see how they really put their bodies at great risk. Most of the banging that goes on is at very close range and not all that hard of impact.

The only guys who really put themselves at risk in the NBA are the slashers like Dwyane Wade who constantly take hits in midair and crash to the floor. A slashing guard has to be about 100x tougher than a center.

[Phillip]

Hmmm I wonder why NBA careers last longer.......it could have something to do with the fact that shit like getting hit by Ray Lewis on a weekly basis is more physically taxing on your body than basketball.

no one takes big hits from ray lewis type players on a weekly basis. hits like that on receivers may not even happen for an entire year at times, and probably not more than 3 times over a season for your average wide-out. we see hits like that on a weekly basis in the NFL, but its happening to different players each time, not the same player getting smashed every week.

[Goran Dragic]

I meant that in terms of the season.

Yeah, in the end, football fucks you up more because of the concussions, big hits, and shit. Im was saying that in regards to playing with injuries, it would be tougher to play 30+ minutes a game for 82 basketball games with a fucked up back, as opposed to 5 minutes a game for 16 football games.


Dejuan Blair has played a full NBA season with no ACLs. I'd love to see what would happen if someone tried to play a full NFL season without ACLs.

[Phillip]

And playing center in the NBA isn't really all about toughness imo. You've gotta be big and strong, you've gotta handle some pushing and shoving, but I don't see how they really put their bodies at great risk. Most of the banging that goes on is at very close range and not all that hard of impact.

The only guys who really put themselves at risk in the NBA are the slashers like Dwyane Wade who constantly take hits in midair and crash to the floor. A slashing guard has to be about 100x tougher than a center.

I agree with this.

But try playing with a jacked lower back. When you are down low going for rebounds, and other guys are trying all kinds of dirty tricks like pushes in the lower back when landing, undercutting, and all that crap, lower back pain is probably one of the most easily aggravated injuries for a center. I can honestly say ive played with a bad back for about 2 years now after I had a wreck, and getting pushed in the lower back when coming down from a rebound FUCKING HURTS. and this is just against average pick-up guys, who are playing for fun, not dirty professional players trying to get every advantage they can get, and know how to do small subtle things that can mess you up.

[Goran Dragic]

no one takes big hits from ray lewis type players on a weekly basis. hits like that on receivers may not even happen for an entire year at times, and probably not more than 3 times over a season for your average wide-out. we see hits like that on a weekly basis in the NFL, but its happening to different players each time, not the same player getting smashed every week.


I sais "shit like getting hit by Ray Lewis", I didn't literally mean hit by Ray Lewis every week. And Randy Moss isn't your average wideout, he faces game plans every week that involve shoving him and jamming him around at the line of scrimmage.

[bostonguy]

Mavs need to sign 1 more bigman for insurance purposes. Anyone that is 6'9 and taller will do. The last thing the Mavs should be doing is using Matt Carroll as an emergency big.

[badfish22]

Mavs need to sign 1 more bigman for insurance purposes. Anyone that is 6'9 and taller will do. The last thing the Mavs should be doing is using Matt Carroll as an emergency big.

Eddie Najera is supposed to be are emergency big. If two of our centers go out in the playoffs, we're screwed anyway.

[mavsfan1000]

What does this have to do with Gooden's contributions to the Mavs this year?

Yeah, Najera is a decent guy to have on the bench as a 12th man. He's a great hustle/energy guy. But a 30 something year old player getting "much better" all the sudden in a couple weeks? :lmao get outta here with that son. Najera just made the adjustment and is starting to find his niche with the team. He doesn't bring anything Gooden brought to the table. For long stretches this season, Gooden was the only Mav capable of scoring in the post. Also, Najera won't ever give you a 20/20 game, ever.

Anyway this wasn't a bash against Najera, I like him on the roster, the point is that without Gooden's contributions the Mavs would be a few games back from where we are, rather than 2nd place and only 2.5 games back from the Lakeshow.
Forget what Gooden is capable of. Look at what he can't do. That is playing intelligently. Scoring and rebounding is nice and all but the little things like offensive awareness and defensive awareness are underrated. And he is a low percentage low post player. To me those are the worst type of players. They clog the middle and make slashing harder and yet they aren't shooting a high percentage or play defense. He is small ball without the advantages of going small like better spacing. And he has the worst +/- on the team. Yes worse than Barea. I guess you don't remember how poor our defense was with Gooden. Just look how Dallas played once Dampier was non-effective.

[monosylab1k]

Eddie Najera is supposed to be are emergency big. If two of our centers go out in the playoffs, we're screwed anyway.

I'd say if Haywood alone is out, the Mavs are in trouble. Dampier ain't doin shit.

[jacobdrj]

Hmmm I wonder why NBA careers last longer.......it could have something to do with the fact that shit like getting hit by Ray Lewis on a weekly basis is more physically taxing on your body than basketball.

I never said it was more physically demanding.

I said that injuries occur and should not be made light of. I gave reasons why they occur that many people don't take into account.

I am not going to call Haywood a pussy just because a football player may have had a similar injury and played through it.

This is a prime example of an apples to oranges comparison. monosylab1k's logic is flawed.