Lakers vs Raps

[IronMexican]

Not sure if Toronto is still hot, but they were for a while. Lakers are already 0-1 vs the Raptors this season.

[badfish22]

If Lakers lose this, this board will go apeshit

[IronMexican]

Yeah, probably will. Be pretty funny.

[Goran Dragic]

Yay NBA TV. Hopefully LA wins. If they lose tonight they'll go into Phoenix on Friday extremely motivated and ready because they won't wanna drop 5 straight.

[Frenzy]

If Lakers lose this, this board will go apeshit

no... just


"raps beat a team they are suppose beat....nothing special here"
:downspin:

[picc84]

Lakers will blow them out.

[RedsLakers24]

Bynum usually does well agaisnt Bosh

[resistanze]

Raptors have been ass since the injuries. Expect a 15 point loss.

[Allanon]

With the Lakers recent struggles, this probably won't be an easy game.

[lefty]

no... just


"raps beat a team they are suppose beat....nothing special here"
:downspin:

Raptors did shit on the Lakers earlier this season

[RedsLakers24]

Refs are making sure the Lakers Win this game

[lefty]

Hedo !

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/475/kipyesssnapoleondynamit.gif

[Banzai]

problems..lots of problems.

[Goran Dragic]

LA is gonna have bad intentions against Phoenix if they lose tonight, hopefully Toronto fucks up.

[ElNono]

Bad ending to the 2nd quarter... it's raining threes on Lakerland

[Banzai]

60-48.

[Banzai]

Bad ending to the 2nd quarter... it's raining threes on Lakerland

Lakers can't defend the 3 point shot.

[sribb43]

So are the lakers still sleep walkin through this part of the season like all the analysts claim

[Banzai]

So are the lakers still sleep walkin through this part of the season like all the analysts claim

Definitely something wrong. Locker room issues? something..the team doesn't look like a team..but a bunch of individual players playing for themselves rather than for each other..from what I'm seeing.

[cobbler]

Way to move the ball around Lakers. Way to get EVERYONE involved.

artest 1-4
pau "i need touches" 3-8
brown 1-5
odom 0-2
farmar 1-4

[Goran Dragic]

Way to move the ball around Lakers. Way to get EVERYONE involved.

artest 1-4
pau "i need touches" 3-8
brown 1-5
odom 0-2
farmar 1-4


They just had a great analysis on NBA TV showing that Kobe is far from the only player on LA who might be taking a few shots he shouldn't. That Shannon Brown off the dribble fade away was a joke.

[picc84]

Lakers don't defend the 3 point shot.

Fixed.

The strategy is to leave 3 point shooters open and shut down the paint. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

[NBAfan83]

Way to move the ball around Lakers. Way to get EVERYONE involved.

artest 1-4
pau "i need touches" 3-8
brown 1-5
odom 0-2
farmar 1-4

Kobe needs to take every shot from this point on

[DJ Mbenga]

its not raining in LA but this wind today must have made the lakers brick their shots and guided the 3's only for toronto in.

[Chieflion]

Some people don't understand that defense in this game this is the problem for the Lakers.

[cobbler]

They just had a great analysis on NBA TV showing that Kobe is far from the only player on LA who might be taking a few shots he shouldn't. That Shannon Brown off the dribble fade away was a joke.

I know... Just being sarcastic for the haters. It's a teamwide issue. Brown and Artest hold the ball every bit as much as Kobe.

The Lakers problem though is D right now.

[picc84]

They just had a great analysis on NBA TV showing that Kobe is far from the only player on LA who might be taking a few shots he shouldn't. That Shannon Brown off the dribble fade away was a joke.

As soon as we gave Shannon Brown a contract after the championship, he started playing like he thought he was Kobe Bryant.

And i'm not in the least bit kidding about that. He's a completely different player now.

[Goran Dragic]

I know... Just being sarcastic for the haters. It's a teamwide issue. Brown and Artest hold the ball every bit as much as Kobe.

The Lakers problem though is D right now.


Yeah it's def. a teamwide problem. I know people will say "Kobe is the leader so it's his fault" but they're all grown men it's not Kobe's job to babysit.

[HarlemHeat37]

The Raptors are a horrible 2nd half team, Lakers will be fine in this game..no, I'm not jinxing, they actually are a horrible team in the 2nd half..

As for Kobe, his "ball-hogging" is actually the one thing I don't usually criticize him for, but even the people that criticize him obviously realize that guys like Farmar and Brown constantly take horrible shots all the time, they're obviously low-IQ players..

[Goran Dragic]

As soon as we gave Shannon Brown a contract after the championship, he started playing like he thought he was Kobe Bryant.

And i'm not in the least bit kidding about that. He's a completely different player now.


The turning point I saw with him was when he dropped 20 points on Orlando. Since that game I've watched him take some moronic shots and act like he's a stud.

[picc84]

We just have too much talent. The team just wants to lull everyone into a false sense of security before unleashing their wrath. :sleep

But seriously, Phil Jackson is doing a very underwhelming job in managing the talent/players on this team. Half of our problems are things that tweaks from him could change, but he refuses because he's a stubborn arrogant ass.

The other half are things that could have been solved at the trade deadline, but Mitch Kupchak thought Derek Fisher's timeout-huddle speeches were more important than Kirk Hinrich's actual basketball ability.

[cobbler]

Lakers have no clue how to use the triangle against the zone. I don't understand why most teams don't zone them the majority of the game. It's not like its an anomaly.

[picc84]

The turning point I saw with him was when he dropped 20 points on Orlando. Since that game I've watched him take some moronic shots and act like he's a stud.

He was taking those shots before the Orlando game. That was just the game he was hitting all of them.

Boy did that ever win us a battle but lose a war.

[cobbler]

Pau.... give me touches Gasol with the 1 foot airball on the perfect assist from Kobe!

Classic!!!!

[Goran Dragic]

Pathetic miss from Pau.

[Chieflion]

Did they just call that sissy cuckold foul on Hedo?

[NBAfan83]

bosh sucks, bynum eating him up

[picc84]

Finally. Here we go. Some energy.

[Chieflion]

It's Bosh's 2nd game back from injury, he clearly doesn't have his explosiveness back yet..he was beasting everybody before his injury..

Ya. Their defense was sucking dick without Bosh. They were starting to look respectable too.

[PGDynasty24]

wtf this some bullshit,even I saw pau get his fucking shorts pulled and then gets a technical refs are handing the game to the raptors

[NBAfan83]

wow only bynums doing anything, just keep feeding drew the ball and bring kobe back in

[picc84]

Bynum is handling business. Its against two of the softest bigs in the league, but he's handling it. At least someone showed up to play ball.

[ChrisRichards]

Artest is such a goldmine in Defense but this due is horrible on offense. He ha sno rhythm whatsoever.

[PGDynasty24]

Artest is such a goldmine in Defense but this due is horrible on offense. He ha sno rhythm whatsoever.

completely agree,defense he is beastly. offense he fucks up the triangle

[blkroadrunners]

Good game so far.

[Allanon]

Artest is such a goldmine in Defense but this due is horrible on offense. He ha sno rhythm whatsoever.

Yup. A couple of minutes ago Odom was pointing to spots on the floor where Artest should go on offense :lol

[picc84]

With Artests bald head sometimes I think he's Odom running around the court.

Then he blows a layup and I think its him for sure. :lol

[Goran Dragic]

They haven't really helped either side that much, but the refs have made this game terrible to watch. Constant stoppage.

[ffadicted]

Come on raptors what is this shit i don't even

[ChrisRichards]

Damn Artest missing that dunk. Dude has no lift too :lol

[picc84]

Damn Artest missing that dunk. Dude has no lift too :lol

A Fisher/Artest fastbreak is enough to make any Laker fan pray. :lol

[ffadicted]

wtf kind of foul is that

[The Franchise]

Phantom foul on Bosh.

[RedsLakers24]

Gasoft aint playin in the Closing Minutes,

[badfish22]

Phantom foul on Bosh.

No surprise :wakeup

[picc84]

Crazy how much trouble we have with the zone. Just shut down.

Kobe just scores on the break, we need more of those. Easy looks at the basket.

[badfish22]

Crazy how much trouble we have with the zone.

I like the sound of that.

[ElNono]

Raps can't hit a shot now :lol

[Darthkiller]

wtf , reffs sucking on kobe's dick again.

[Findog]

Raps can't hit a shot now :lol

They keep jacking up threes instead of working for a good look.

[Allanon]

Interesting how Pau's been sitting.

Bynum+Odom to finish games looks pretty good defensively.

[Goran Dragic]

I think Phil is sending Pau a message about public comments.

[ElNono]

Kobe just scores on the break, we need more of those. Easy looks at the basket.

Before that basket, the previous 8 points came from the FT line

[badfish22]

Interesting how Pau's been sitting.


Good move, imo

[ElNono]

Pau is there now...

[Chieflion]

Throw that fucking fan out of the building.

[Findog]

Jesus, die by the three tonight for Toronto...

[ace3g]

wow Lakers fan get out the way

[ffadicted]

lol fucking laker fans trying to be a part of the game

[picc84]

Kobe just get out the way sometimes, you dont need to touch the ball every possession. Odom could have taken that fool.

[Findog]

Jarrett Jack sucks. Why are the running a s/n/r 60 feet from the basket?

[The Franchise]

Throw that fucking fan out of the building.

I would have lead with the elbow if I was Calderon.

[PGDynasty24]

LOL Jason Bateman and the Maroon 5 lead singer getting in way of Calderon. Now that is home court advantage

[Double-Up]

Bosh is a fool if he stays in Toronto...Lakers giving them every chance to comeback and they're failing as usual.

[ace3g]

Hedo go to the basket, don't pass

[Allanon]

Wow.

[ElNono]

Intensity picked up... Toronto should fold any minute now

[ffadicted]

Hedo.... wow

[Allanon]

That wasn't good Lakers play, that was just the Raptors giving that game up :lol

[Darthkiller]

turkoglu huge choke.

[picc84]

Bosh wanted no part of Artest on that play.

[The Franchise]

Three wide open shots passed up because nobody wants to shoot all of a sudden. Good going Toronto!!

[redzero]

Turkodumb didn't know what to do with the ball once he got it.

[DJ Mbenga]

lol good one phil jackson. reward bynum with his play by benching him the last part of the game

[picc84]

That wasn't good Lakers play, that was just the Raptors giving that game up :lol

Yeah, not much to feel good about.

[Allanon]

Ball.

[TheMACHINE]

gasol needs to learn to play from Bynum..offensively and defensively...tired of that faggot trying to do finese shots only to get flustered when someone makes a bit of contact.

[Goran Dragic]

Bad defense, worse offense on that Turkoglu choke.

[ElNono]

Bosh is a fool if he stays in Toronto...Lakers giving them every chance to comeback and they're failing as usual.

Bosh is just as guilty... What is he, 10-35 by now? He was shooting 25% at halftime

[ffadicted]

FUCKING WHY COULDNT YOU HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE TORONTO!!

omg toronto why'd you foul... WHAT THE FUCK WHTFSDJIFSADKGASDF

[badfish22]

dumbshits

[Allanon]

Yeah, not much to feel good about.

Weird shitty game today. But I'll take the win gladly.

Too many damn ref calls too (both sides)

[ace3g]

did bosh have to make that foul ,there was more than 24 sec on the clock right?

[Chieflion]

Bosh is just as guilty... What is he, 10-35 by now? He was shooting 25% at halftime

Give him time. He just recovered from an injury.

[Allanon]

lol good one phil jackson. reward bynum with his play by benching him the last part of the game

True dat. Your boy played great tonight...but Phil benches him and Pau gives an open layup.

[The Franchise]

Bosh is just as guilty... What is he, 10-35 by now? He was shooting 25% at halftime

Bosh is playing a very timid game right now.

[ace3g]

Bosh with the 3!!!!

[sa_kid20]

Wow what a shot by Bosh!

[badfish22]

Bosh for threeeeeeeeeee

[Allanon]

OMFG, Bosh with a loooong 3?

[PGDynasty24]

wow i knew that was going to happen. whatevers kobe time

[Chieflion]

Bosh ties the game with a 3! Chris fucking Bosh!!!!

[Findog]

Bosh is playing a very timid game right now.

haha ok

[redzero]

The second best power forward in the game just came through.

[The Franchise]

Bosh is playing a very timid game right now.

I'm sorry big dog. :toast

[ffadicted]

what the fuck Bosh lmao trying to be Tim Duncan out there

[picc84]

Looks like we spoke too soon.

Wonder what PJ will draw up.

[DJ Mbenga]

bosh had only 7 3's all season and he has 2 tonight. lmao

[Goran Dragic]

bosh is playing a very timid game right now.


+1

[Banzai]

saw that coming.

[TheMACHINE]

Bynum should be in the game instead of gasoft

[ElNono]

Lotsa time left

[skut_farkus]

My nigga bosh

[RedsLakers24]

Come ON Kobe

[badfish22]

dammit

[PGDynasty24]

what did I say?

[ace3g]

that was perfect defense and Kobe still hits the shot

[Findog]

Kobe.

[Chieflion]

Wow! That's another game winner.

[picc84]

Goddamn, Kobe.

[skut_farkus]

Mutha fuckin kobe!!!!!

[Goran Dragic]

Had a hunch that would happen. Fuck, the guy is so good.

[Banzai]

cold blooded.

[RedsLakers24]

Kobe, Kobe, Kobe

[sa_kid20]

Well fuck.

[cobbler]

Friggen ballhog

[ffadicted]

bleeeh

[DJ Mbenga]

this thread should be fun now

[Allanon]

whatevers kobe time

Good call.

[The Franchise]

Tie the game then let Kobe go one on one with Calderon eh. Kudos.

[AnthonyM]

Kobe shoulda passed it.

[hhml]

Damn, what an amazing shot. That was a fall away over 2 defenders with hands in his face.

[Chieflion]

LOL Raptors! Make someone else beat you?

[Double-Up]

Cold blooded shot by Kobe, lol Toronto's defense...they should have run 2 people at him QUICKLY make ANYONE ELSE take the last shot EXCEPT KOBE. What the fuck is so hard to understand about that concept.

[ChrisRichards]

Kobe's a fucking rapist.

[ElNono]

Anyways, Bosh is overrated. He will probably still find a fool that pays him max money this summer though.

[redzero]

Kobe just hitting fluke shot after fluke shot...

Seriously, though, this has to be a record.

[TheMACHINE]

Anyways, Bosh is overrated. He will probably still find a fool that pays him max money this summer though.

Clippers

[ChrisRichards]

Tie the game then let Kobe go one on one with Calderon eh. Kudos.
Was it Calderon? I thought it was a Brack guy and Bargnani covering him?

[Allanon]

Anyways, Bosh is overrated. He will probably still find a fool that pays him max money this summer though.

Same like the fools that just paid Gasol max money. Superior offense but neither one plays good defense.

[ChrisRichards]

Kobe just hitting fluke shot after fluke shot...

Seriously, though, this has to be a record.Nope. Melo had 8 in a season.

[picc84]

LOL Raptors! Make someone else beat you?

Kobe 2 minutes earlier shot the ball while triple teamed. You think he's passing the game-winner?

And he shouldn't. Him shooting over the entire Raptors team is as good a percentage as any of the others shooting open.

[Findog]

Clippers

Knicks

[Banzai]

Kobe's a fucking rapist.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/47/itstimetostoppostingCat.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=2238)

[Amaso]

Sons... kobe isnt clutch. a volume shooter is eventually going to get one to fall in at some point if he takes the last 10 shots of the game. it just so happens he's had a lucky streak where hes hit a few of his last jumpshots.

[ElNono]

Come on, it's the friggin' Raptors at Staples... I'm actually surprised it came down to Kobe heroics...

[cobbler]

I think Phil is sending Pau a message about public comments.

Or at least if your going to bitch... dont back it up with a 4-11 showing.

[Banzai]

Come on, it's the friggin' Raptors at Staples... I'm actually surprised it came down to Kobe heroics...

agreed. even tupac can't believe it. http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/54/pacsmh.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=4003)

[HarlemHeat37]

Great shot by Kobe, he's really been uncharacteristically clutch this season, he's usually a very poor clutch shooter..he deserves credit for stepping his game up in clutch time this season though, he's learned well from Lebron:D..he also owns the Raptors like no other, which is probably why there are so many Laker fans there..

The Lakers have needed like 7 GW shots from Kobe for wins this season though, should be kind of alarming..those other guys are really losing their balls and hoping he bails them out down the stretch..

[Goran Dragic]

Or at least if your going to bitch... dont back it up with a 4-11 showing.


Or just don't bitch at all and recognize who's team it is :lol

[ChrisRichards]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/47/itstimetostoppostingCat.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=2238)
That chick has a nice hand.

[Banzai]

That chick has a nice hand.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/3/morita.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=4547)

[cobbler]

Great shot by Kobe, he's really been uncharacteristically clutch this season, he's usually a very poor clutch shooter..he deserves credit for stepping his game up in clutch time this season though, he's learned well from Lebron:D..he also owns the Raptors like no other, which is probably why there are so many Laker fans there..

The Lakers have needed like 7 GW shots from Kobe for wins this season though, should be kind of alarming..those other guys are really losing their balls and hoping he bails them out down the stretch..

Do you have your couple Laker paragraphs saved and just change the names occasionally cause it's the same ole shtick. You cannot even compliment a good game by Kobe without making it all about showing your obsessive banality.

[HarlemHeat37]

Do you have your couple Laker paragraphs saved and just change the names occasionally cause it's the same ole shtick. You cannot even compliment a good game by Kobe without making it all about showing your obsessive banality.

I said it was a great game, didn't I?..I don't understand what you want..

Do you disagree that it sucks that the Lakers have had to rely on Kobe to win 6 or 7 games for them on game winners?..I know you're a Laker fan and not just a Kobe fan, so I would assume that you would rather see your team dominating like they're supposed to..

[TheMACHINE]

Great shot by Kobe, he's really been uncharacteristically clutch this season, he's usually a very poor clutch shooter..he deserves credit for stepping his game up in clutch time this season though, he's learned well from Lebron:D..he also owns the Raptors like no other, which is probably why there are so many Laker fans there..

The Lakers have needed like 7 GW shots from Kobe for wins this season though, should be kind of alarming..those other guys are really losing their balls and hoping he bails them out down the stretch..




Props to Kobe. But you have to be honest here. The Lakers won 7 games this season from a Kobe game winner. As a team, I dont think they have "repeat" written on them. Games like these are good for Kobe's personal glory, but its going to hurt them come playoff time. Seems to me they rely so much on Kobe to bail them out. Worst most are from barely 500 teams (Bucks, Heat, Grizz, Kings,Raptors)

http://spurstalk.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4148612

Classic

[Killakobe81]

Nope. Melo had 8 in a season.

Nope Melo record was 5 just saw it on ESPN ...nice try though Kobe has made the most in the last 5 seasons ...

[cobbler]

I said it was a great game, didn't I?..I don't understand what you want..

Do you disagree that it sucks that the Lakers have had to rely on Kobe to win 6 or 7 games for them on game winners?..I know you're a Laker fan and not just a Kobe fan, so I would assume that you would rather see your team dominating like they're supposed to..

They can win by 1 or 30... I could care less.

What I want? I don't want anything thank you. I was just pointing out how you continue the same shtick over and over.

And no... I cannot say as I have ever walked away from any Laker victory on a last second shot and said.... "God that really sucked".

[HarlemHeat37]

They can win by 1 or 30... I could care less.

What I want? I don't want anything thank you. I was just pointing out how you continue the same shtick over and over.

And no... I cannot say as I have ever walked away from any Laker victory on a last second shot and said.... "God that really sucked".

What's my "shtick"?..

[Killakobe81]

Rather close win than loss Lakers playing on cruise controlstillhave 3 game lead on West ...Dallas going to face a war vs Denver Round 2 if that cant pas us for #1 seed.

Also NBATV guys agree Dwill best PG dunk on Rose was sick .
They also said depite numbers his jumpshot is better than Rose or CP3 ...

I know Paul has better 3pt FG but he has NEVR been the better jumpshooter ...

[HarlemHeat37]

Rather close win than loss Lakers playing on cruise controlstillhave 3 game lead on West ...Dallas going to face a war vs Denver Round 2 if that cant pas us for #1 seed.

Also NBATV guys agree Dwill best PG dunk on Rose was sick .
They also said depite numbers his jumpshot is better than Rose or CP3 ...

I know Paul has better 3pt FG but he has NEVR been the better jumpshooter ...

Paul shoots more jump shots AND he has a better jump shot %..I don't know what other kind of proof you would need..he also shoots the majority of his jump shots off the dribble, while Williams gets most of them assisted(55% of them)..

[cobbler]

What's my "shtick"?..

Please refer to The Machine's post on the previous page.

[HarlemHeat37]

So my "shtick" is that I'm also Chris Richards?..

[gm5k]

What's my "shtick"?..

using 2 periods instead of 3 on your never ending ellipses? :p:

[cobbler]

Your shtick is to rag on the Lakers and Kobe ad nauseam. You cannot even make a simple compliment without tossing in your veiled jabs. You are obviously obsessed with the Lakers and even more so Kobe and it shows in the volume of your posts and their content.

Can I spell it out any clearer for you?

[HarlemHeat37]

So my "shtick" is that I hate hate the Lakers and Kobe?..

[redzero]

Paul shoots more jump shots AND he has a better jump shot %..I don't know what other kind of proof you would need..he also shoots the majority of his jump shots off the dribble, while Williams gets most of them assisted(55% of them)..

Facts don't matter with Williams supporters.

[TD 21]

Chalk it up as another one that the refs handed to the Lakers. Raptors up going into the fourth when all of a sudden the Lakers mysteriously appear at the line about ten times in the span of two minutes. On one, Bryant out of control runs into the lane and throws himself into the Raptor, on another Bryant's in the post, turns, Wright's arms are straight up, yet he's called for the foul. On a few others, I don't even know where the "foul" occurred.

Worst of all, not a thing about this was surprising. In fact, with 1:15 to go in the 3rd, I told my brother how the remainder of the game would unfold. Sure enough, I had it down to a tee. It's predictable. After all, the league couldn't have the Lakers lose their fourth straight, as their stranglehold on the West shrinks by the day. They're already not going to have home court in the finals, they can't have them not having it in the conference finals because then they might actually lose and not make the finals and that would be a major loss in ratings and that's what it's all about because it's sure as hell not about credibility.

[cobbler]

So my "shtick" is that I hate hate the Lakers and Kobe?..

Your hating the Lakers and Kobe is not a "shtick". That is your obsession.

Main Entry: ob·ses·sion
1 : a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling; broadly : compelling motivation
2 : something that causes an obsession

Your "shtick" is having to post about your obsession and saying the same crap over and over and over.

Main Entry: shtick
1 : a usually comic or repetitious performance or routine
2 : one's special trait, interest, or activity

Clear enough?

[Double-Up]

So my "shtick" is that I hate hate the Lakers and Kobe?..

"Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from the Greek (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Greek_language): ἔλλειψις, élleipsis, "omission") is a mark or series of marks that usually indicate an intentional omission of a word or a phrase from the original text. An ellipsis can also be used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought, or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence (aposiopesis (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Aposiopesis)) (apostrophe and elipsis mixed). The ellipsis calls for a slight pause in speech.

The most common form of an ellipsis is a row of three periods or full stops (...) or pre-composed triple-dot glyph (…). The usage of the em dash (—) can overlap the usage of ellipsis.

The triple-dot punctuation mark is also called a suspension point, points of ellipsis, periods of ellipsis, or colloquially (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Colloquialism), dot-dot-dot."

[cobbler]

Chalk it up as another one that the refs handed to the Lakers. Raptors up going into the fourth when all of a sudden the Lakers mysteriously appear at the line about ten times in the span of two minutes. On one, Bryant out of control runs into the lane and throws himself into the Raptor, on another Bryant's in the post, turns, Wright's arms are straight up, yet he's called for the foul. On a few others, I don't even know where the "foul" occurred.

Worst of all, not a thing about this was surprising. In fact, with 1:15 to go in the 3rd, I told my brother how the remainder of the game would unfold. Sure enough, I had it down to a tee. It's predictable. After all, the league couldn't have the Lakers lose their fourth straight, as their stranglehold on the West shrinks by the day. They're already not going to have home court in the finals, they can't have them not having it in the conference finals because then they might actually lose and not make the finals and that would be a major loss in ratings and that's what it's all about because it's sure as hell not about credibility.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Killakobe81]

Facts don't matter with Williams supporters.

Because he is "assisted" means he ACTUALLY gives up the ball ...the Hornets should try it sometime...

So against Derek Rose HONESTLY many on here would rather have Paul?
Neither guy can stay with Rose quickness wise but at least Dwill will not get bullied by him or Billups ...

No matter what your mom or wife tells you SIZE matters ...

[Killakobe81]

Facts don't matter with Williams supporters.

I am not a WIlliams supporter ...justwatching the game with my eyes ...not while looking at boxscore
Plus I love playing devil's advocate many annointed him (paul) the best PG in the game we will see ...

Save this thread Williams will end up with the BETTER Career ...write it down, take a picture put in BOLD letters ...

Many cry that injury stuff Dwill was hurt last year and he still won more playoff games ...

[TD 21]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

I'm not asking you to apologize for it, but at least acknowledge it. I'm so sick of Lakers fans pretending it's not there. What was my vested interest in this game? I'm not a Raptors fan and even though I'd prefer if they beat the Lakers, I don't really care. The Lakers are locked into the first seed in the West and the second best record in the league. It's not changing, so really, I didn't have much of a rooting interest. I'm just telling you what I saw and what I saw was both predictable and pathetic.

[j.dizzle]

Durant & D.Will will look god damn good in purple & gold in 5 years..cant wait

[gm5k]

Kobe game winner...

http://www.nba.com/video/games/lakers/2010/03/09/0020900952_tor_lal_play3.nba/index.html

[cobbler]

I'm not asking you to apologize for it, but at least acknowledge it. I'm so sick of Lakers fans pretending it's not there. What was my vested interest in this game? I'm not a Raptors fan and even though I'd prefer if they beat the Lakers, I don't really care. The Lakers are locked into the first seed in the West and the second best record in the league. It's not changing, so really, I didn't have much of a rooting interest. I'm just telling you what I saw and what I saw was both predictable and pathetic.

I don't suppose you saw any of the calls that went against the Lakers? There were terrible calls both ways. There is no way you can put this one on the refs. You are just another broken record.

[HarlemHeat37]

Your hating the Lakers and Kobe is not a "shtick". That is your obsession.

Main Entry: ob·ses·sion
1 : a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling; broadly : compelling motivation
2 : something that causes an obsession

Your "shtick" is having to post about your obsession and saying the same crap over and over and over.

Main Entry: shtick
1 : a usually comic or repetitious performance or routine
2 : one's special trait, interest, or activity

Clear enough?

OK..would you like to bet that the majority of my Kobe-related posts are to counter Kobe threads or a statement about Kobe?..I don't randomly bring him up very often, pretty rare actually..I'm not ChrisRichards, I don't do that..

Al-Quobe is too insecure..I gave the guy credit and it isn't enough for them..

[cobbler]

OK..would you like to bet that the majority of my Kobe-related posts are to counter Kobe threads or a statement about Kobe?..I don't randomly bring him up very often, pretty rare actually..I'm not ChrisRichards, I don't do that..

Al-Quobe is too insecure..I gave the guy credit and it isn't enough for them..

uh huh..... sure you aren't. :lol

[redzero]

Because he is "assisted" means he ACTUALLY gives up the ball ...the Hornets should try it sometime...

So against Derek Rose HONESTLY many on here would rather have Paul?
Neither guy can stay with Rose quickness wise but at least Dwill will not get bullied by him or Billups ...

No matter what your mom or wife tells you SIZE matters ...

I love how you changed the subject to Paul being a ball hog now, since you can't continue to claim that Williams is a better shooter without looking foolish.

Anyway, how were Paul and Williams brought up in a topic about the Lakers and Raptors?

[j.dizzle]

MVP Pau Gasol turning into Kwame Brown is the problem lmao..WTF is wrong with this guy, ever since I read he has a new Gf, hes looked like shit hahaha. He lets ppl score at will against him without even trying lately. Phil screwed up by putting him in at the end when Bynum was playing great & deserved to be in there. Drew is putting in some work in lately on the defensive end, good for him..Pau just needs to snap out of this his funk.

[ChrisRichards]

uh huh..... sure you aren't. :lol
I think Harlem and Miami Heat are the same person. Please dont associate me with them. Especially with that PT cruiser driving fag.:toast

[TD 21]

I don't suppose you saw any of the calls that went against the Lakers? There were terrible calls both ways. There is no way you can put this one on the refs. You are just another broken record.

No, they were more terrible calls one way and conveniently with the game in the balance in the fourth, almost all of the terrible calls went one way. Maybe you guys are too far in the trees to see the forest or maybe you just think it's the Lakers' right, but I'm telling you this scenario plays out frequently. I watch a lot of games outside of the Spurs throughout the season and there isn't another team that routinely get's this type of officiating.

[j.dizzle]

No, they were more terrible calls one way and conveniently with the game in the balance in the fourth, almost all of the terrible calls went one way. Maybe you guys are too far in the trees to see the forest or maybe you just think it's the Lakers' right, but I'm telling you this scenario plays out frequently. I watch a lot of games outside of the Spurs throughout the season and there isn't another team that routinely get's this type of officiating.
:lmao

[TD 21]

:lmao

This is why Lakers fans are the biggest joke in the entire league. Won't even acknowledge it. I can readily admit that Bowen blatantly fouled James on the final play of game 3 of the '07 finals, but you people can't admit that the Lakers (more notorious for this than any team in the league) receive favorable officiating? Pathetic.

[j.dizzle]

This is why Lakers fans are the biggest joke in the entire league. Won't even acknowledge it. I can readily admit that Bowen blatantly fouled James on the final play of game 3 of the '07 finals, but you people can't admit that the Lakers (more notorious for this than any team in the league) receive favorable officiating? Pathetic.
Sorry playa, I just think that its funny that everytime LA wins its because of the refs..Shit gets old so I just laugh..Guess you never watched the celtics, cavs, heat, jazz, nuggets, etc etc either..Like my homie Hova says, "You dont even know me and u mad, how does it feel to be a hater? now I know exactly how it feel to be a laker" :toast

[cobbler]

This is why Lakers fans are the biggest joke in the entire league. Won't even acknowledge it. I can readily admit that Bowen blatantly fouled James on the final play of game 3 of the '07 finals, but you people can't admit that the Lakers (more notorious for this than any team in the league) receive favorable officiating? Pathetic.

Yet we are the ones laughing at you. Of course there are times when the Lakers get the benefit of the calls. They are after all the storied franchise of the league. But there are also calls that go against them but funny how those never get brought up. And to suggest the Lakers get more than any other elite team just shows that you really dont watch the games. Watch the Cavs play lately? Check out the picking style of the Celts and get back to me. Etc etc etc...

The refs tonight, while calling quite a few bad calls both ways, had nothing to due with the outcome. Pulling the ref card -----> Always a bitch move.

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

Your shtick is to rag on the Lakers and Kobe ad nauseam. You cannot even make a simple compliment without tossing in your veiled jabs. You are obviously obsessed with the Lakers and even more so Kobe and it shows in the volume of your posts and their content.

Can I spell it out any clearer for you?

Not like he has anything else to post about it. His team is a joke and on the verge of another embarrassing 1st round flare out.

[Shank]

Sorry playa, I just think that its funny that everytime LA wins its because of the refs..

And when they lose, the Lakers themselves say the same thing.

[Allanon]

This myth of ref favoritism towards the Lakers is ridiculous.

Kobe gets fewer free throw attempts than most of the "superstars".

Meanwhile 4 Lakers (Kobe, Lamar, Fisher, Bynum) are in the top 100 in fouls getting called against them. No other team has that many guys in the top 100.

Get out with this ref favoritism shit please...

[TheMACHINE]

lol @ spurs fan with his conspiracy theory after winning 4 rings last decade. Spurs were THAT GOOD that they over came the refs. :lol

[TheMACHINE]

This myth of ref favoritism towards the Lakers is ridiculous.

Kobe gets fewer free throw attempts than most of the "superstars".

Meanwhile 4 Lakers are in the top 100 in fouls getting called against them. No other team has that many guys in the top 100.

Get out with this ref favoritism shit please...

lol at Kobe's 2 out of 4 fouls were offensive fouls.

[Phillip]

Kobe gets fewer free throw attempts than most of the "superstars".

He also attacks a lot less than the other superstars like Lebron, Carmello, and Wade. He settles for jumpers wayyy to much, which is another reason why Jordan > Kobe.

[Allanon]

He also attacks a lot less than the other superstars like Lebron, Carmello, and Wade. He settles for jumpers wayyy to much, which is another reason why Jordan > Kobe.

Kevin Martin gets more free throws than Kobe and he's a jump shooter.

There is no "favoritism"; if there was, Kobe would get alot more free throws...doesn't matter if he's shooting jumpers or not.

Favoritism says he gets the free throws regardless...which he doesn't.

[Phillip]

Kevin Martin gets more free throws than Kobe and he's a jump shooter.

There is no "favoritism"; if there was, Kobe would get alot more free throws...doesn't matter if he's shooting jumpers or not.

Favoritism says he gets the free throws regardless...which he doesn't.

Having a good jumper doesnt make you a jump shooter. Kevin Martin attacks like crazy too, and is quite skilled at drawing fouls.

You wont get free throws if you are shooting jumpers and not getting touched (with the exception of Dwayne Wade in 2006)

[Double-Up]

This myth of ref favoritism towards the Lakers is ridiculous.

Kobe gets fewer free throw attempts than most of the "superstars".

Meanwhile 4 Lakers (Kobe, Lamar, Fisher, Bynum) are in the top 100 in fouls getting called against them. No other team has that many guys in the top 100.

Get out with this ref favoritism shit please...

:lmao...move around with that bullshit.

[Allanon]

:lmao...move around with that bullshit.

Laugh all you want, doesn't change the fact that it is true.

truth > your bullshit

[Allanon]

Having a good jumper doesnt make you a jump shooter. Kevin Martin attacks like crazy too, and is quite skilled at drawing fouls.

You wont get free throws if you are shooting jumpers and not getting touched (with the exception of Dwayne Wade in 2006)

Kevin Martin has 3 shots per game at the rim.

Kobe has 5 shots per game at the rim.

KMart gets more free throws.

Where's this Kobe favoritism?

[angel_luv]

Amazing game ( judging from the highlights).

The Raps gave a great effort and very nearly came back to win that game. I am proud of them!

[Phillip]

Kevin Martin has 3 shots per game at the rim.

Kobe has 5 shots per game at the rim.

KMart gets more free throws.

Where's this Kobe favoritism?

Those stats do absolutely nothing for your argument. Not every single foul comes right at the rim. A lot of fouls for guards come on the perimeter from blowing past your man and getting held. Truth is, Kevin Martin has a quicker first step than Kobe, which allows him to draw more fouls. Guards with size and quick first steps are probably the types of players are are most susceptible to foul. D-Wade has possibly the quickest first step ever, and that allows him to constantly get to the line. MJ had an explosive first step. Lebron's first step is ridiculous too.

Most people, even the biggest of Kobe fans, knows that he settles for jumpers wayyyy too much, which may be his biggest weakness as a basketball player (not saying its a massive weakness, as he has very few weaknesses which makes him such a great player, but out of the few he has, its arguably his biggest)

[TheMACHINE]

He also attacks a lot less than the other superstars like Lebron, Carmello, and Wade. He settles for jumpers wayyy to much, which is another reason why Jordan > Kobe.

ahhh which means Lebron, Carmello and Wade > Kobe too.

[TheMACHINE]

Those stats do absolutely nothing for your argument. Not every single foul comes right at the rim. A lot of fouls for guards come on the perimeter from blowing past your man and getting held. Truth is, Kevin Martin has a quicker first step than Kobe, which allows him to draw more fouls. Guards with size and quick first steps are probably the types of players are are most susceptible to foul. D-Wade has possibly the quickest first step ever, and that allows him to constantly get to the line. MJ had an explosive first step. Lebron's first step is ridiculous too.

Most people, even the biggest of Kobe fans, knows that he settles for jumpers wayyyy too much, which may be his biggest weakness as a basketball player (not saying its a massive weakness, as he has very few weaknesses which makes him such a great player, but out of the few he has, its arguably his biggest)

how old is Kobe compared to those cats you listed?

[Allanon]

Those stats do absolutely nothing for your argument. Not every single foul comes right at the rim. A lot of fouls for guards come on the perimeter from blowing past your man and getting held. Truth is, Kevin Martin has a quicker first step than Kobe, which allows him to draw more fouls. Guards with size and quick first steps are probably the types of players are are most susceptible to foul. D-Wade has possibly the quickest first step ever, and that allows him to constantly get to the line. MJ had an explosive first step. Lebron's first step is ridiculous too.

Yes, let's disregard the stats and make excuses instead.

[TheMACHINE]

Those stats do absolutely nothing for your argument. Not every single foul comes right at the rim. A lot of fouls for guards come on the perimeter from blowing past your man and getting held. Truth is, Kevin Martin has a quicker first step than Kobe, which allows him to draw more fouls. Guards with size and quick first steps are probably the types of players are are most susceptible to foul. D-Wade has possibly the quickest first step ever, and that allows him to constantly get to the line. MJ had an explosive first step. Lebron's first step is ridiculous too.

Most people, even the biggest of Kobe fans, knows that he settles for jumpers wayyyy too much, which may be his biggest weakness as a basketball player (not saying its a massive weakness, as he has very few weaknesses which makes him such a great player, but out of the few he has, its arguably his biggest)

if Kobe doesnt go to the FT line as much...why is it still referee favoritsm? I dont get that logic at all.

[sribb43]

NBA teams are fuckin clueless...double Kobe and make artest or fisher make a shot...it's like teams want to get fucked by Kobe

[Phillip]

how old is Kobe compared to those cats you listed?

KROFL @ the butthurtedness of this post.

all i was saying is that the other guys are at this point, more able to draw fouls due to an advantage they have in athleticism. when kobe was their age, he was shooting around 10 fts a game as well. I still think Kobe is in the top 3 along with Bron and Wade (I think they are all pretty much tied for the top spot, but they all accel in different ways - Kobe is the most skilled, Wade is the most aggressive, and Bron is the most gifted)

[Phillip]

NBA teams are fuckin clueless...double Kobe and make artest or fisher make a shot...it's like teams want to get fucked by Kobe

I say let him have long jumpers, but if he gets picks or drives, double him immediately and force the ball out of his hands. Just whatever you do, don't let him get inside and either get an easy bucket, or create for others. Mavs did that extremely well the last time they played.

[Phillip]

Yes, let's disregard the stats and make excuses instead.

Because your stats were incredibly flawed in regards to your argument, but you are too stupid to realize it. :rolleyes

[Allanon]

Because your stats were incredibly flawed in regards to your argument, but you are too stupid to realize it. :rolleyes

Dumbshit as usual just making excuses now.

Kobe shoots more at the rim but Kevin friggin Martin gets more free throws?

Most of Dirk's shots are from the outside, yet he's only shooting .1 less free throws per game than Kobe.

Yet Kobe is the one getting this supposed "favoritism"....real logical :lol

[Phillip]

Dumbshit as usual just making excuses now.

Kobe shoots more at the rim but KMart gets more free throws?

Yet Kobe is the one getting this supposed "favoritism"....real logical :lol

You get stupider by the second, I swear.

I never was saying that he gets favoritism (although he definitely used to in the past... when he was also more aggressive of a player, and when he decides to be aggressive, he gets as many ticky-tack fouls called for him as anyone in the league). But you, along with other moron Lakerfans almost seem to believe that he doesnt get enough calls. All I've said is that he doesnt attack as much as other players, which is why he doesnt get to the line as much.

You can get more shots at the rim if you play for an uptempo team that likes to get out on the break, and get easy, uncontested buckets, but it doesnt mean that you are attacking more than another player. The Lakers like to run a lot, and are quite good at it. Also keep in mind, when you draw fouls, they dont count as FGAs, so while guys like Kevin Martin definitely gets to the rim more than 3 times a game, they are resulting in free-throws obviously. But you are probably too stupid to understand that concept.

[Chieflion]

Maybe not Kobe but the Lakers in general.

2010
Orlando: +141
Lakers: +106
Denver: +92
Dallas: +83
Cleveland: +42
Boston: -6

These are personal fouls called in favor from basketball reference. This means that the Lakers were called for 106 less fouls than their opponents throughout this season thus far.

[Allanon]

You get stupider by the second, I swear.

You've always been stupid :lol


But you, along with other moron Lakerfans almost seem to believe that he doesnt get enough calls.

WTF are you talking about? When the fuck did I say he didn't get enough calls?

Damn you're delusional.

Stop making shit up Mavfan :lol

[Phillip]

Most of Dirk's shots are from the outside, yet he's only shooting .1 less free throws per game than Kobe.

Same situation as guys like Wade and Martin. He often has bigger guys on him, and is quicker than most, so when he drives, he often draws fouls. Then if he has small guys on him, he works them in the high post, and often draws reaching fouls because he has suprisingly good handles for such a big guy, or he will back them down to a point where they pretty much have to foul, or he will get a 10 foot midrange, which is pretty much automatic for him, whether hes on or off balance. Dirk's ability to draw fouls comes because he is such a massive mismatch, arguably the biggest mismatch machine in the NBA, which is what makes him such an effective and deadly player, even though he may not be as skilled as plenty of others. He just has such an unusual skillset for a big guy.

[Phillip]

WTF are you talking about? When the fuck did I say he didn't get enough calls?

I never said you said that. I just said it seems that way, by the manner in which you idiots are arguing, saying that Kevin Martin or Dirk gets more FTs despite being "shooters". But once again, your argument is skewed, and narrowminded.

[Phillip]

I cant wait until we get a hold of these Mav Faggots in the playoffs.

You want to get to hold a faggot? Yeah, you're definitely gay.

[Allanon]

I just said it seems that way,

That's right mother fucker. You "ASSumed" something I never said. RIF :lol

[Phillip]

That's right mother fucker. You "ASSumed" something I never said. RIF :lol

cool comeback bro :tu

[Phillip]

Why not? I love holding faggots. I'm gay.

[TheMACHINE]

lol at Phillip making every excuse to why Kobe gets favorable calls but cant really figure it out himself. lol

[Phillip]

lol at Phillip making every excuse to why Kobe gets favorable calls but cant really figure it out himself. lol

I never said anything about him getting favorable calls. Just that others attack more, and therefore get more FTAs than he does.

[TheMACHINE]

I never said anything about him getting favorable calls. Just that others attack more, and therefore get more FTAs than he does.

fair enough

[dirk4mvp]

Poor phillip. You Faggericks are the classic failures. I cant wait.:lmao

There's plenty of funny nicknames for the Mavericks and you chose this one? :td

lol scared of the Mavericks

[Phillip]

There's plenty of funny nicknames for the Mavericks and you chose this one? :td

lol scared of the Mavericks

yeah it was pretty pathetic. but its expected from lakerfan. hes just posting the posts hes supposed to post.

[anakha]

Shouldn't this have been at least a jump ball at center court? Yeesh.

CvYGpsetnP8

[RedsLakers24]

Shouldn't this have been at least a jump ball at center court? Yeesh.

CvYGpsetnP8

what the fan did was wrong, but he was stepping on the line so it would have been laker ball anyways

[TD 21]

Lakers fans = the biggest joke in the league and every time anyone calls you guys on it, it's "you're delusional, you're jealous, you don't watch the games". Fuck, come up with something new. You honestly want me to delve into the countless, indisputable examples over the years of the Lakers receiving favorable officiating? I guess everyone just hates the Lakers, that's what it is.

Funny, I don't remember there being a widespread belief that the Spurs received over the top (there's a perception that all top teams to an extent receive the benefit of the doubt) favorable officiating when they were on top and nobody (outside of obviously Spurs fans) liked the Spurs. The reality is people aren't blind, they know what they're seeing and even though I find since the Donaghy scandal it's less prevalent, the Lakers still receiving favorable officiating.

[Allanon]

The reality is people aren't blind, they know what they're seeing and even though I find since the Donaghy scandal it's less prevalent, the Lakers still receiving favorable officiating.

Nah, people are blind.

If you just read the Laker game threads, non-Laker fans only point out the calls that go in favor of the Lakers. They ignore the ones that favor the other team.

If you don't believe me; just go through the Laker game threads, the ref calls are always one-sided as if the Lakers are the only ones getting the calls. Very biased around these parts.

There are even a buncha threads saying the Spurs won their 4 titles honestly while the Lakers won their last 4 dishonestly...is that un-biased?

Hey, this is a Spurs forum; I understand that and the anti-Lakers bias. But let's not pretend the anti-Laker bias doesn't exist...it's pretty obvious :lol

[TheMACHINE]

Nah, people are blind.

If you just read the Laker game threads, non-Laker fans only point out the calls that go in favor of the Lakers. They ignore the ones that favor the other team.

If you don't believe me; just go through the Laker game threads, the ref calls are always one-sided as if the Lakers are the only ones getting the calls. Very biased around these parts.

There are even a buncha threads saying the Spurs won their 4 titles honestly while the Lakers won their last 4 dishonestly...is that un-biased?

Hey, this is a Spurs forum; I understand that and the anti-Lakers bias. But let's not pretend the anti-Laker bias doesn't exist...it's pretty obvious :lol

heck...there were games where the lakers opponent shot like 15 more FT's and haters still call ref bias for the Lakers. lol :rolleyes

[himat]

Nope Melo record was 5 just saw it on ESPN ...nice try though Kobe has made the most in the last 5 seasons ...

No...I thought Gilbert Arenas hit 7 in one season??? Right??

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

No...I thought Gilbert Arenas hit 7 in one season??? Right??

Wrong