Charles Barkley: Kobe's Game Winners Are Just Luck

[Koolaid_Man]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/101521/index.html


Barkley hating again....He also says Lakers only won because they had more talent...

Listen ere' body knows Barkley has been carrying MJ's nuts with him where ever he goes so it's no surprise..But he needs to givr it up...holding MJ's nuts like that has got to be tiring after all these years.

He's been hating on Kobe for a long time. When we won the title last year Barkley's post game comments:

Barkley: "I've said all along that you needed to win as the main man on your team and as the leading scorer to validate your career"

Kobe: "Ok" - while smiling ear to ear...

Barkley: "How do you feel about people that say you can't win without Shaq."

Kobe: "It's silly...It's a silly arguement...anyone including former players that say that obviously haven't won anything or simply just don't know basketball."

Barkley: "ok go ahead... I see you smiling I know you want to gloat like everyone else."

Kobe: "Naahh I have too much respect for my opponents."

Barkley: Eyes turned red and he stopped talking...

Barkley cannot hold a candle to Kobe he's not in Kobe's class..he tries to box Kobe in with today's players and Kobe like a chess player just makes him look small and irrelevant.....Barkley knows it and it pisses him off....He says Kobe is no Jordan but really Barkley is no Kobe...The only thing real about Barkley is he has ZERO rings...Kobe has already surpassed him on so many levels...dude is just straight up hating...and I love it...Hate from Barkley usually means success for LA. The dude is curse to any team he's rooting for...Good luck Dallas...:toast

[BRHornet45]

"Kobe: "It's silly...It's a silly arguement...anyone including former players that say that obviously haven't won anything or simply just don't know basketball.""

this piece of shit is totally clueless. he was absolutely NOTHING without Shaq and EVERYONE knows it. take Shaq off of those teams and Kobe never would have gotten the Lakers out of the 2nd round. Look at what he did in the few years that Shaq left and Kobe was given the leader role! 1st round exits and not even making the playoffs one of those years. Now Shaq has been replaced with Gasol and the Lakers are a threat again, yet Kobe receives 100% of the credit in the media. pathetic

Shaq led that team and won 3 rings for Kobe, and now Gasol is leading them and won another ring for Kobe. period.

[fevertrees]

Kobe just mad cause he didn't come up with the 5 dollar box!

[Koolaid_Man]

"Kobe: "It's silly...It's a silly arguement...anyone including former players that say that obviously haven't won anything or simply just don't know basketball.""

this piece of shit is totally clueless. he was absolutely NOTHING without Shaq and EVERYONE knows it. take Shaq off of those teams and Kobe never would have gotten the Lakers out of the 2nd round. Look at what he did in the few years that Shaq left and Kobe was given the leader role! 1st round exits and not even making the playoffs one of those years. Now Shaq has been replaced with Gasol and the Lakers are a threat again, yet Kobe receives 100% of the credit in the media. pathetic

Shaq led that team and won 3 rings for Kobe, and now Gasol is leading them and won another ring for Kobe. period.


you sound like an angry miscreant...Listen numnuts...those teams were built around Shaq not Kobe...but Shaq as I've said numerous times before simply couldn't win without Kobe...he played with great and all star talent...he underachieved until Kobe showed him how to be a leader and a winner...and while Kobe actually led the Lakers to the titles...while Shaq clanged free throw after free throw...:hat revisionist history doesn't work on me...you're not smart enough to debate with me...I can tell by the way you post...

[HarlemHeat37]

* Bryant has made 26 of the 89 potential game tying or game-winning field goals he has shot over the last decade. That's 29.2%, which is slightly above League average.

[BRHornet45]

you sound like an angry miscreant...Listen numnuts...those teams were built around Shaq not Kobe...but Shaq as I've said numerous times before simply couldn't win without Kobe...he played with great and all star talent...he underachieved until Kobe showed him how to be a leader and a winner...and while Kobe actually led the Lakers to the titles...while Shaq clanged free throw after free throw...:hat revisionist history doesn't work on me...you're not smart enough to debate with me...I can tell by the way you post...

lol the bitterness in your reply is hilarious.

poor Laker fans for real. you guys simply refuse to look at the facts and accept that Kobe is nothing more than a "glorified Paul Pierce". outside of actually making it into the NBA, the dude has never accomplished or earned anything on his own. Kobe has been handed everything on a silver platter by the league and media since day 1 in their attempt to create a star.

[Gutter92]

BRHornet, how do you even understand what Koolaid is saying with all of that kobe semen dripping from his mouth?

Don't try to argue with him, hes obviously in denial:wakeup

[BRHornet45]

BRHornet, how do you even understand what Koolaid is saying with all of that kobe semen dripping from his mouth?

Don't try to argue with him, hes obviously in denial:wakeup

son true

[Killakobe81]

"Kobe: "It's silly...It's a silly arguement...anyone including former players that say that obviously haven't won anything or simply just don't know basketball.""

this piece of shit is totally clueless. he was absolutely NOTHING without Shaq and EVERYONE knows it. take Shaq off of those teams and Kobe never would have gotten the Lakers out of the 2nd round. Look at what he did in the few years that Shaq left and Kobe was given the leader role! 1st round exits and not even making the playoffs one of those years. Now Shaq has been replaced with Gasol and the Lakers are a threat again, yet Kobe receives 100% of the credit in the media. pathetic

Shaq led that team and won 3 rings for Kobe, and now Gasol is leading them and won another ring for Kobe. period.

I read this and all i heard From BRHornet was:
"i really have a homo erotic fixation on Kobe. Since Keeping his name in my mouth is my coping mechanism for dealing with my closet gay feelings ...for Kobe. I really wish I had HIM in my mouth ...but by talking about him 24/7 ChrisRichards, Miami Heat and myself can still fantasize ...

[23LeBronJames23]

Kobe is so great, that he's the only player in history to penalized for having help winning a title. Bird's C's were stacked, so was Magic's, and MJ's. Kobe took Shaq to places in his career that he'd never been. When Kobe kicked Shaq out of LA, it's been down hill ever since, and up hill for Kobe. Kobe will nail the dagger in the coffin of both Mandingo James and Snaq this season.

This season Cavs beat Lakers twice. Same way Cavs will beat them in the Finals,If LA get ther

[23LeBronJames23]

We're already there son. The parade is already planned.

In your dreams

[Pelicans78]

you sound like an angry miscreant...Listen numnuts...those teams were built around Shaq not Kobe...but Shaq as I've said numerous times before simply couldn't win without Kobe...he played with great and all star talent...he underachieved until Kobe showed him how to be a leader and a winner...and while Kobe actually led the Lakers to the titles...while Shaq clanged free throw after free throw...:hat revisionist history doesn't work on me...you're not smart enough to debate with me...I can tell by the way you post...

Bullshit. Both were underachieving and getting swept in the playoffs until Phil Jackson showed up.

[ChrisRichards]

Kobe is so great, that he's the only player in history to penalized for having help winning a title. Bird's C's were stacked, so was Magic's, and MJ's. Kobe took Shaq to places in his career that he'd never been. When Kobe kicked Shaq out of LA, it's been down hill ever since, and up hill for Kobe. Kobe will nail the dagger in the coffin of both Mandingo James and Snaq this season.
Kobe has 3 All Star caliber players in his team. Jordan would trade Toni Kukoc for Odom and Luc Longley/Bill Wennington combined for a guy like Bynum. He would trade Robert Parish for DJ Mbenga and Jack Haley for Luke Walton too.

[spurs10]

BRHornet, how do you even understand what Koolaid is saying with all of that kobe semen dripping from his mouth?

Don't try to argue with him, hes obviously in denial:wakeup
Better from his ignorant "mouth" than from an innocent victim while his wife stays at home with their newborn. Talk about a miscreant...anyone who looks up to that piece of shit is in for trouble in this world. You will never hear a word from his rape victim because he paid dearly for her silence.

[namlook]

Suns coach called Kobe the best closer in NBA history yesterday.

"He's the best closer in the history of the game if you ask me," Gentry said. "Yeah, that is including Michael Jordan.

[DAF86]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/101521/index.html


Barkley hating again....He also says Lakers only won because they had more talent...

Listen ere' body knows Barkley has been carrying MJ's nuts with him where ever he goes so it's no surprise..But he needs to givr it up...holding MJ's nuts like that has got to be tiring after all these years.

He's been hating on Kobe for a long time. When we won the title last year Barkley's post game comments:

Barkley: "I've said all along that you needed to win as the main man on your team and as the leading scorer to validate your career"

Kobe: "Ok" - while smiling ear to ear...

Barkley: "How do you feel about people that say you can't win without Shaq."

Kobe: "It's silly...It's a silly arguement...anyone including former players that say that obviously haven't won anything or simply just don't know basketball."

Barkley: "ok go ahead... I see you smiling I know you want to gloat like everyone else."

Kobe: "Naahh I have too much respect for my opponents."

Barkley: Eyes turned red and he stopped talking...

Barkley cannot hold a candle to Kobe he's not in Kobe's class..he tries to box Kobe in with today's players and Kobe like a chess player just makes him look small and irrelevant.....Barkley knows it and it pisses him off....He says Kobe is no Jordan but really Barkley is no Kobe...The only thing real about Barkley is he has ZERO rings...Kobe has already surpassed him on so many levels...dude is just straight up hating...and I love it...Hate from Barkley usually means success for LA. The dude is curse to any team he's rooting for...Good luck Dallas...:toast

If Barkley is such an "MJ nut carrier" he should start hating on Lebron 'cause he is the one that has a chance at dethroning Jordan as the greatest ever.

[namlook]

If Barkley is such an "MJ nut carrier" he should start hating on Lebron 'cause he is the one that has a chance at dethroning Jordan as the greatest ever.

Barkley knows Lebron is no threat to Jordan's legacy as long as he remains ringless. Lebron will need to win at least a couple rings before Barkley will start tearing him down.

[DAF86]

Kobe is so great, that he's the only player in history to penalized for having help winning a title. Bird's C's were stacked, so was Magic's, and MJ's. Kobe took Shaq to places in his career that he'd never been. When Kobe kicked Shaq out of LA, it's been down hill ever since, and up hill for Kobe. Kobe will nail the dagger in the coffin of both Mandingo James and Snaq this season.

Yeah, I'm sure that winning that championship with Miami must've been a career low for him. Right now he's also arguably the second best player on the top contender for this year's championship.

During the Lakers' three peat Shaq was by far the most dominant player on the league and according to lots of BB specialist the most dominant player of all-time. Shaq could have won swapping Kobe for another star of those years (ex. McGrady, Carter, etc.), Bryant couldn't have won swapping Shaq with another all-star bigman, not even Duncan.

[Trainwreck2100]

Kobe is so great, that he's the only player in history to penalized for having help winning a title. Bird's C's were stacked, so was Magic's, and MJ's. Kobe took Shaq to places in his career that he'd never been. When Kobe kicked Shaq out of LA, it's been down hill ever since, and up hill for Kobe. Kobe will nail the dagger in the coffin of both Mandingo James and Snaq this season.

That's cause he's the only player in history to BLOW UP HIS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM

[namlook]

That's cause he's the only player in history to BLOW UP HIS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM

Complete BS. Talk about revisionist history.

1. Shaq asked to be traded.

2. The Lakers hadn't won the past two seasons before Shaq was traded.

3. Jordan is the only player to blow up a championship team. He retired twice following championship seasons only to come back and play again.

[cobbler]

Complete BS. Talk about revisionist history.

1. Shaq asked to be traded.

2. The Lakers hadn't won the past two seasons before Shaq was traded.

3. Jordan is the only player to blow up a championship team. He retired twice following championship seasons only to come back and play again.

Pure ownage! :toast

[Rogue]

as much as Kobe is hated, you motherfuckers would still be nuts anyways if you consider Kobe's game winners are just flukes. In fact every shot requires more or less luck to turn a goal made rather than missed and I do believe Kobe has made bags of lucky shots since he first joined the league.

[Rogue]

Complete BS. Talk about revisionist history.

1. Shaq asked to be traded.

2. The Lakers hadn't won the past two seasons before Shaq was traded.

3. Jordan is the only player to blow up a championship team. He retired twice following championship seasons only to come back and play again.
wasn't it because Kobe flounced so hard in locker room that Shaq couldn't tolerate playing with him no more and demanded a trade? Kobe was the culprit who initiated all those dissonances inside in their locker room and fucked everything up, you would be a dumb scummy motherfucker if you think otherwise.

[Donkeybong]

wasn't it because Kobe flounced so hard in locker room that Shaq couldn't tolerate playing with him no more and demanded a trade? Kobe was the culprit who initiated all those dissonances inside in their locker room and fucked everything up, you would be a dumb scummy motherfucker if you think otherwise.

lmao... getting surgery on "company time"

[HarlemHeat37]

If you just led a team to 3 titles, why would you want to stick around when your teammate snitches you out to the police for NO REASON?..I can't imagine anybody wanting to play with somebody that tried to get him in serious trouble for no reason at all..these guys are human, they aren't robots..

[Trainwreck2100]

Complete BS. Talk about revisionist history.

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Last i checked Kobe narced on Shaq to the cops and then Shaq asked to be traded not really revisionist history

[namlook]

lmao... getting surgery on "company time"

And consistently showing up to work completely out of shape. Shaq has no work ethic and yes that bothered Kobe as it should have. Kobe's a basketball maniac who outworks everyone on his team year in and year out. Shaq had the physical tools to be the greatest basketball player in NBA history by far, but he was a lazy ass.

[Kevin Durant 35]

And consistently showing up to work completely out of shape. Shaq has no work ethic and yes that bothered Kobe as it should have. Kobe's a basketball maniac who outworks everyone on his team year in and year out. Shaq had the physical tools to be the greatest basketball player in NBA history by far, but he was a lazy ass.

:rollin :lmao :rollin
Yeah Shaq was lazy and was finals MVP for some awkward reason. hmmm

[cobbler]

Shaq sealed his fate in preseason by upstaging Dr Buss.

All 3 have gone on the record and stated that Kobe had nothing to do with the decision to send Shaq packing. It was a business decision by Buss and a correct one at that.

The Lakers wer not a championship team at the time. They hadn't won in two years.

[cobbler]

:rollin :lmao :rollin
Yeah Shaq was lazy and was finals MVP for some awkward reason. hmmm

Shaqs laziness and off season lack of preperation are well noted. At the time he was traded his finals MVP was two full season in the past. Nice try.