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SouthernFried
03-14-2010, 04:02 PM
There's even something in here for lefty's


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7n2m-X7OIuY

Andrew P. Napolitano is a 59 year old former New Jersey Superior Court Judge. He is a graduate of Princeton University , and Notre Dame Law School . At Princeton he was a founding member of the Concerned Alumni of Princeton.

Judge Napolitano is the youngest life-tenured Superior Court judge in the history of the State of New Jersey .

ChumpDumper
03-14-2010, 04:15 PM
I'm not going to watch it, so summarize.

boutons_deux
03-14-2010, 04:33 PM
This right-wing extremist tool is a favorite bloviator on Fox Repug Network.

You expect him to have any credibility?

Wild Cobra
03-14-2010, 08:15 PM
This right-wing extremist tool is a favorite bloviator on Fox Repug Network.

You expect him to have any credibility?
He's in no way a right wing extremist. He just calls it like he sees it. That is neither left or right.

Wild Cobra
03-14-2010, 08:21 PM
I'm not going to watch it, so summarize.
You're loss.

boutons_deux
03-14-2010, 08:32 PM
"like he sees it."

fair enough, he sees govt as something to be hated, destroyed, abused, compromised.

The Constitutional "Promote the general welfare" as in "regulate" predatory, off-ripping, gouging cartelistic/monopolistic corps is part of the Constitution he ignores.

I'm sure thinks police, fire, water, electricity, public health services should all be privatized so the corps could gouge citizens and demote the general welfare.

Wild Cobra
03-14-2010, 09:08 PM
"like he sees it."

fair enough, he sees govt as something to be hated, destroyed, abused, compromised.

The Constitutional "Promote the general welfare" as in "regulate" predatory, off-ripping, gouging cartelistic/monopolistic corps is part of the Constitution he ignores.

I'm sure thinks police, fire, water, electricity, public health services should all be privatized so the corps could gouge citizens and demote the general welfare.
Wow...

You are really showing your stupidity.

ElNono
03-14-2010, 09:25 PM
I didn't watch the video, but being from NJ, I've heard of the guy.
What it's clear is that his writing and television career is more important than sitting on a bench imparting justice. Funny how people like him were part of the system and did nothing to change it, only to go out of the system to bitch about it.

Wild Cobra
03-14-2010, 09:28 PM
I didn't watch the video, but being from NJ, I've heard of the guy.
What it's clear is that his writing and television career is more important than sitting on a bench imparting justice. Funny how people like him were part of the system and did nothing to change it, only to go out of the system to bitch about it.
How do you change such a fucked up system?

You should take the few minutes and watch it.

greyforest
03-14-2010, 10:21 PM
He just calls it like he sees it. That is neither left or right.

lol

ElNono
03-14-2010, 10:35 PM
How do you change such a fucked up system?

You should take the few minutes and watch it.

I'm sure that being a judge and being part of the problem in the past, if there was any wrongdoing he would have brought it to light. But I guess it pays better to just write books and flip his tongue on TV instead of really trying to pursue a solution.

admiralsnackbar
03-14-2010, 11:12 PM
I'm sure that being a judge and being part of the problem in the past, if there was any wrongdoing he would have brought it to light. But I guess it pays better to just write books and flip his tongue on TV instead of really trying to pursue a solution.

It must.

TheProfessor
03-14-2010, 11:18 PM
So he espouses a view of the Commerce Clause contradicting several decades of Supreme Court precedent, including the more recent restrictive interpretations under Lopez and Morrison. I'm sure he and Clarence Thomas would have a field day, but it doesn't exactly make this message important or timely.

word
03-15-2010, 10:45 AM
I had no idea Peter Schiff was running for the Senate. Interesting.

boutons_deux
03-15-2010, 10:48 AM
"You are really showing your stupidity."

Stoop from your inflated opinion of yourself and grace us with the bullets of this idiot ideologue's bullshit. Just the main turds, please.

SouthernFried
03-15-2010, 04:06 PM
Judge Napolitano speaks for a lot of Americans. He speaks for none of them on the left.

ElNono
03-15-2010, 05:49 PM
Judge Napolitano speaks for a lot of Americans. He speaks for none of them on the left.

He was in a position to do a lot more than just speak, but obviously he had no interest in fighting for what he believes in.
This is a perfect case of actions speaking louder than words.

Wild Cobra
03-15-2010, 08:26 PM
I'm sure that being a judge and being part of the problem in the past, if there was any wrongdoing he would have brought it to light. But I guess it pays better to just write books and flip his tongue on TV instead of really trying to pursue a solution.
You seem to think that a judge is able to solve problems as a judge. In that role, they are suppose to rule by law a precedent. You complain he left rather than fixing the system. Fixing it from within would be exactly what we don't want... JUDICIAL ACTIVISM! Writing books and being in the public view on Fox and other programs allows his message to get out, and help public pressure to change a broken system.

Seriously, the video isn't very long. You should take a couple minutes.

Marcus Bryant
03-15-2010, 08:35 PM
Soon enough FoxNews will host a debate on whether or not Thomas Jefferson was a "commie" "libtard."

ElNono
03-15-2010, 08:37 PM
You seem to think that a judge is able to solve problems as a judge. In that role, they are suppose to rule by law a precedent. You complain he left rather than fixing the system. Fixing it from within would be exactly what we don't want... JUDICIAL ACTIVISM! Writing books and being in the public view on Fox and other programs allows his message to get out, and help public pressure to change a broken system.

Not all judges rule merely on precedent. Precedent is overturned and new precedent set all the time. Obviously, to do that you need to be a judge, sitting on a bench, and not on Fox or pursuing your literary career...

Wild Cobra
03-15-2010, 08:40 PM
Not all judges rule merely on precedent. Precedent is overturned and new precedent set all the time. Obviously, to do that you need to be a judge, sitting on a bench, and not on Fox or pursuing your literary career...
I'll bet he's done that a few times.

I don't understand why you choose to find fault in the man. He's doing good work as it is. Someone who's an expert on the topic needs to be in the media. He is one of so few.

Wild Cobra
03-15-2010, 08:41 PM
Soon enough FoxNews will host a debate on whether or not Thomas Jefferson was a "commie" "libtard."
He was perhaps America's first Libertarian.

ElNono
03-15-2010, 09:02 PM
I'll bet he's done that a few times.

I don't understand why you choose to find fault in the man. He's doing good work as it is. Someone who's an expert on the topic needs to be in the media. He is one of so few.

I don't find fault in the man. I do, however, find his credibility fairly limited.
Heck, if he is so compelled about his ideals, then he could easily pursue a career in politics and try to do something about it.
Maybe he simply doesn't want his ideas to actually have the scrutiny of the population, or he's fully aware he's part of a minority.

Wild Cobra
03-15-2010, 11:58 PM
I don't find fault in the man. I do, however, find his credibility fairly limited.
Heck, if he is so compelled about his ideals, then he could easily pursue a career in politics and try to do something about it.
Maybe he simply doesn't want his ideas to actually have the scrutiny of the population, or he's fully aware he's part of a minority.
Now you're making sense to me, but I disagree with your credibility assessment.

SouthernFried
03-16-2010, 01:56 AM
Alito is as credible as anyone else...especially when he's right.

There a lot of people compelled by ideas/ideals, that are not in politics. Doesn't mean they cannot, or should not try to affect political discussion and events.

Alito makes sense, makes good points...and above all, has identified the timing. This is a crucial time in this country's history. More crucial than any in my lifetime. Decisions made today, will not affect me so much, as our children, grandchildren and on down the line.

It's about giving our kids the same opportunities we had...not limiting them. If healthcare passes, this country will never be the same again. The resources, the exponential increase in governmental power and intrusion into everyday lives, the destruction of a huge part of our private sector and the associated growth and research in those fields that will be then dominated by govt beaurocracy...will suck the the life and energy ouf of this country. This is what socialism does, and has always done.

For those who think that American greatness is somehow wrong, evil, or don't even think we have been great...none of this will matter to them. They have a "right" to let the government take care of them. It's what, in their minds...our government is supposed to do. Take care of them.

"not take care of me!....just, uh..help us. Evil corporations are taking our money!"

But, for those who know different. Who understand what America is, stands for in the world, and its power to affect positive change...what is happening now is disastrous for not just our future, but the entire worlds. The poor, the disadvantaged, the helpless...have all looked to America for hope, help, and maybe a place they can go for a better life. Take that away, and you take away more than your children/grandchildrens hopes...you take away much of the worlds.

They come here for a reason, and it's not just money...it's for a better life now, and in the future for themeselves, and their children.

Soicialism will not only destroy the country, but much hope in the world.

"pffft, your wrong...America's not so great, and this ain't socialism. And even if it were, it's not gonna destroy anything, it's gonna help! Besides, they hate us out there, for good reason!"

And still they come.

...and so it goes

Winehole23
03-16-2010, 02:51 AM
Socialism will ... destroy the country...You seem to speak of it expectantly, but the USG has been the single biggest US employer since the 1950's.

boutons_deux
03-16-2010, 05:43 AM
These fucking dumbfuck tools of Movement Conservatives and Repugs parroting the checkbox scream of "socialism" in a country whose economy and govt is owned and run for the exclusive oligarchic benefit of the financial sector and for the mgmt (not for their wage slaves) of corporations and their investors.

socialism? :lol

fucking ignorant dupes. :lol

SouthernFried
03-16-2010, 06:07 AM
You seem to speak of it expectantly, but the USG has been the single biggest US employer since the 1950's.

Actually, I remember when govt jobs outstripped manufacturing. It was right at the end of the Carter administration, or the beginning of the Reagan one. Big news at the time...and a harbinger of what was to come. I remember thinking at the time, "this is it, it is unstoppable now."

The drain on the economy of socialism in the US, with it's increased regulatory powers, increased taxing and levying of fees, and increased antagonistic attitude towards the private sector...wasn't hard to see, or predict what was to come. As the govt sector grew in both power, reach, and hunger for funds, the private sector would suffer.

And it has...and it is going to get much, much worse.

Especially if the govt grab for healthcare control happens. Such a large part of the economy. Companies spend billions on research and people. With govt controls and beaurocracy, it will destroy incentive, productivity, development/research and jobs. That's what socialism has always done, and it wont be any different here.

The ever growing entitlement sector of our govt, already consumes 2/3 of our budget. It is, has been, and will continue to suck the life out of the economy.

Personally, I don't ever see it stopping. Too many people want the govt to do for them, even expect it to. The creation of govt dependence has done its task well. People can't imagine doing without their govt entitlements now. Entitlements are now expected...and they will continue to grow until there is nothing left for them take from the private sector.

Hell, it already has...12-14 trillion in debt?

"but, it's all the corporations fault. And we want the govt to provide our healthcare."

Yeah, it ain't gonna stop. Even when it is this obvious of what will come of it.

People want things, and they want the govt to give it to them now. Those people are the ones destroying the future of this country and their own children, damn the costs...we want govt to give us healthcare.

Alito's right. I know I'm right. And even most lefty's here know it.

The difference is, they don't care...or they want it to happen. The average lefty doesn't care. The "intellectual" ones have always wanted this.

Well, it's about here. Welcome to mediocracy.

"Oh, quit whining...we won!"

and America is losing.

...SIG

George Gervin's Afro
03-16-2010, 06:35 AM
Actually, I remember when govt jobs outstripped manufacturing. It was right at the end of the Carter administration, or the beginning of the Reagan one. Big news at the time...and a harbinger of what was to come. I remember thinking at the time, "this is it, it is unstoppable now."

The drain on the economy of socialism in the US, with it's increased regulatory powers, increased taxing and levying of fees, and increased antagonistic attitude towards the private sector...wasn't hard to see, or predict what was to come. As the govt sector grew in both power, reach, and hunger for funds, the private sector would suffer.

And it has...and it is going to get much, much worse.

Especially if the govt grab for healthcare control happens. Such a large part of the economy. Companies spend billions on research and people. With govt controls and beaurocracy, it will destroy incentive, productivity, development/research and jobs. That's what socialism has always done, and it wont be any different here.

The ever growing entitlement sector of our govt, already consumes 2/3 of our budget. It is, has been, and will continue to suck the life out of the economy.

Personally, I don't ever see it stopping. Too many people want the govt to do for them, even expect it to. The creation of govt dependence has done its task well. People can't imagine doing without their govt entitlements now. Entitlements are now expected...and they will continue to grow until there is nothing left for them take from the private sector.

Hell, it already has...12-14 trillion in debt?

"but, it's all the corporations fault. And we want the govt to provide our healthcare."

Yeah, it ain't gonna stop. Even when it is this obvious of what will come of it.

People want things, and they want the govt to give it to them now. Those people are the ones destroying the future of this country and their own children, damn the costs...we want govt to give us healthcare.

Alito's right. I know I'm right. And even most lefty's here know it.

The difference is, they don't care...or they want it to happen. The average lefty doesn't care. The "intellectual" ones have always wanted this.

Well, it's about here. Welcome to mediocracy.

"Oh, quit whining...we won!"

and America is losing.

...SIG

:lmao

boutons_deux
03-16-2010, 09:05 AM
Southern Fried is such a knee-jerking, ignorant, duped rube. He's a parody of a duped rube.