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ElNono
03-17-2010, 10:26 AM
Jobs Bill Passes in Senate With 11 Votes From Republicans (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/us/politics/18cong.html?hp)
By CARL HULSE

WASHINGTON — The Senate approved and sent to President Obama on Wednesday what Congressional Democrats hope will be the first in a series of bills spurring employment by providing tax breaks and other hiring incentives to businesses.

The measure, approved on a bipartisan vote of 68 to 29, would give employers an exemption from payroll taxes through the end of 2010 on workers they hire who have been unemployed for at least 60 days. It also extends the federal highway construction program and takes other steps to boost public building projects.

“Congress is focusing on what the American people want us to focus on — which is jobs, jobs, jobs,” Senator Charles E. Schumer, the New York Democrat, said on the Senate floor before the vote.

While 11 Republicans voted for the measure, others in the party were skeptical that the measure would help create new jobs, or said they were distressed at its cost.

“This isn’t so much a jobs bill as it is a debt bill,” said Senator Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican.

Democrats had hoped to get the measure to the White House weeks ago, to demonstrate to the public that they were responding to the bleak national employment picture. But the measure was slowed in the House by concerns among some Democrats that the bill did not do enough, and by procedural obstacles in the Senate.

Even so, there were more than enough supporting votes in the Senate to jump the parliamentary hurdles. Democrats now intend to push ahead with renewing more than $30 billion in corporate tax breaks and providing additional help to small businesses.

Under the bill now heading to President Obama’s desk, businesses that hire workers who have been jobless for at least 60 days will be exempt from paying the 6.2 percent payroll tax on those employees’ earnings until the end of the year. If those workers stay on for a full year, businesses will also get a $1,000 tax credit. (The employee’s pay would still be subject to the usual personal income taxes.) The business tax breaks would add up to about $15 billion in all.

It also provides an extra $20 billion for road and bridge construction and extends the federal highway program through year-end. The Transportation Department furloughed roughly 2,000 workers earlier this month because of a temporary freeze in the program.

LnGrrrR
03-17-2010, 02:10 PM
SOCIALISM!

TERRORISTS!

FREE MARKET!

Sorry, I just didn't see enough shouted hyperbole in this thread yet.

Wild Cobra
03-17-2010, 02:15 PM
Wow...

Such a revelation!

Democrats have realized that taxes on businesses affect jobs!

Now if they would just retain payroll deductions and eliminate income taxes for businesses, we could have a robust economy again!

Spurminator
03-17-2010, 02:42 PM
Wow...

Such a revelation!

Democrats have realized that taxes on businesses affect jobs!


So why haven't the 28 Republicans who voted against the bill figured that out?

Wild Cobra
03-17-2010, 02:53 PM
So why haven't the 28 Republicans who voted against the bill figured that out?
Couldn't tell you, I can only guess. Isn't there a law that says an employer cannot inquire if you are on unemployment? then there is what to do with the loss of revenue. Then of course, how many jobs could be filled that prevent workers from moving from a low paying job to a better one? How many people does this stall into a lower paying job that had a chance to move to a better job? I could go on with possibilities.

Back to the democrats though. This is an acknowledgment that taxes affect the unemployment rate. I don't think they ever did that before. They always though they could fix things with higher taxes. Not less!

jack sommerset
03-17-2010, 03:19 PM
Wait a freaken second. I thought repugs were the party of "no".

Spurminator
03-17-2010, 03:20 PM
Wait a freaken second. I thought repugs were the party of "no".

28 no's vs. 11 yea's won't exactly change that perception. Thank God for Maine Republicans.

coyotes_geek
03-17-2010, 03:29 PM
So why haven't the 28 Republicans who voted against the bill figured that out?

My guess is that the republicans just wanted to play the game where enough of them support the bill to make sure it passes and the rest pump their fists and scream about being against Obamer and his lyb-yural spending.

Just a guess......

LnGrrrR
03-17-2010, 04:30 PM
My guess is that the republicans just wanted to play the game where enough of them support the bill to make sure it passes and the rest pump their fists and scream about being against Obamer and his lyb-yural spending.

Just a guess......

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Of course, you forgot to mention that all Republicans will claim this bill as a way of reducing taxes, and if called on it, specify some ridiculously small portion of the bill as to why they voted "No" on it, with the caveat that they knew enough of their fellow R's would vote it in, making the "No" vote symbolic in nature only.