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boston.balla
03-18-2010, 04:37 PM
"What is the best season anybody ever had in the nba?"
The question is equivalent to: "what player reached the highest level of play and when was that?"

Name a player and a year, examples(): jordan 95-96, lebron 09-10, shaq 98-99, hakeem 94-95.

I'd go with hakeem 93-94. He played absolutely every thing from any perspective:
- team ball,
- d man to man &help,
- unguardable = best post game,
- very good mid range j, %421 3pt
- bigman(bigs alter the game in more ways),
- mvp,
- finals mvp vs a very good patrick ewing knicks team,
- dptoa,
- only player to win it all (mvp, finals mvp, dptoa) in one season,
- only allstar from his team.
- stats: http://www.nba.com/playerfile/hakeem_olajuwon/index.html

Blake
03-18-2010, 04:43 PM
:lol

you're kidding, right?

Wilt dominates everyone.

IronMexican
03-18-2010, 04:45 PM
For the past 20 years, I'll go:


1999-00 27 LAL NBA 79 79 40.0 12.1 21.1 .574 0.0 0.0 .000 5.5 10.4 .524 4.3 9.4 13.6 3.8 0.5 3.0 2.8 3.2 29.7

IronMexican
03-18-2010, 04:45 PM
Fuck, that makes no sense.

Phillip
03-18-2010, 04:56 PM
:lol

you're kidding, right?

Wilt dominates everyone.

considering the level of competition, not really. wilt was great, but was also way ahead of his time (first truly dominant and powerful 7 foot monster), much like jordan was ahead of his time in the 80's and 90's (again, first player to have his type of mix of athelticism and skill) which made his greatness stand out so much more.

boston.balla
03-18-2010, 04:59 PM
:lol

you're kidding, right?

Wilt dominates everyone.

wilt is an awesome physical specimen but let's keep it real here, shaq vs wilt 1v1. not a great defensive player, no mid range game, low ft%.

Imagine him in the 90s vs hakeem, shaq, zo, patrick ewing, malone, drob, etc with a completely different pace of the game, with a totally different fg% league wide, with a completely different style of play, with hack a shaq and he would not be nowhere near as dominant. I think 1v1 shaq would eat him alive(wider array of finishing moves, big weight difference which given wilt's strength based game changes stuff alot).

Consider that wilt's rebounding per possesion in an era with a much lower fg is still nowhere near rodmans'. Consider that scoring on elite bigmen in the 90s is a whole other story than scoring on a 6'9 bill russell. Consider the difference in physical preparation of the opposition.

And last but not least consider achievement. Where did wilt get with a much better supporting cast? Consider how did he earn his rings. Consider never being great defensively in a crap fg era with a HUGE size/athleticism advantage. Consider how he approached the game and how a guy like hakeem/bill russell/mj aproached it= the mental facet of the game. Bottom line: The game is not empty stats.

Note I tried not to say weaker opposition though i can easily argue. I based all arguments on league fg and physical preparation and size(something that as a physical trainer I think I can assess quite well). I can elaborate further but I think the point is clear.

Findog
03-18-2010, 04:59 PM
I'll go with Arvydas Sabonis, 01-02 season.

boston.balla
03-18-2010, 05:05 PM
For the past 20 years, I'll go:


1999-00 27 LAL NBA 79 79 40.0 12.1 21.1 .574 0.0 0.0 .000 5.5 10.4 .524 4.3 9.4 13.6 3.8 0.5 3.0 2.8 3.2 29.7

that does not look like crap. We all know who was the best player in 1999-2000. And we all know that with a much better supporting cast how the finals ended up against hakeem. Furthermore, being consistently outplayed ny hakeem is another heavy argument. Add defense to the comparison and it is quite clear.

Phillip
03-18-2010, 05:12 PM
wilt is an awesome physical specimen but let's keep it real here, shaq vs wilt 1v1. not a great defensive player, no mid range game, low ft%.

Imagine him in the 90s vs hakeem, shaq, zo, patrick ewing, malone, drob, etc with a completely different pace of the game, with a totally different fg% league wide, with a completely different style of play, with hack a shaq and he would not be nowhere near as dominant. I think 1v1 shaq would eat him alive(wider array of finishing moves, big weight difference which given wilt's strength based game changes stuff alot).

Consider that wilt's rebounding per possesion in an era with a much lower fg is still nowhere near rodmans'. Consider that scoring on elite bigmen in the 90s is a whole other story than scoring on a 6'9 bill russell. Consider the difference in physical preparation of the opposition.

And last but not least consider achievement. Where did wilt get with a much better supporting cast? Consider how did he earn his rings. Consider never being great defensively in a crap fg era with a HUGE size/athleticism advantage. Consider how he approached the game and how a guy like hakeem/bill russell/mj aproached it= the mental facet of the game. Bottom line: The game is not empty stats.

Note I tried not to say weaker opposition though i can easily argue. I based all arguments on league fg and physical preparation and size(something that as a physical trainer I think I can assess quite well). I can elaborate further but I think the point is clear.

great post :tu

IronMexican
03-18-2010, 05:15 PM
Shaq had two whole points more, a higher FG%, and more rebounds. Hakeem does win the bloacks by almost a whole extra block and an extra steal per game. Shaq's was more dominant, but Hakeem did face a lot better competition at C

JamStone
03-18-2010, 05:32 PM
61-62 Bill Russell, but not based on his individual statistics

Bob Lanier
03-18-2010, 05:44 PM
75-76 Kareem

Rick Carlisle
03-18-2010, 05:49 PM
09-10 Jose Juan Barea

JamStone
03-18-2010, 05:58 PM
09-10 Jose Juan Barea

But will he ever replace the love you had for Michael Curry or Anthony Johnson?

Darthkiller
03-18-2010, 06:26 PM
bird 85-86, when mchale went down, bird had a streak of couple weeks when he continuesly put up big sized tripple doubles, includes the left hand game against portland.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-18-2010, 06:31 PM
I'd probably go Hakeem 94-95 simply cause he won MVP, defensive player of the year, and finals MVP.

Ghazi
03-18-2010, 08:54 PM
09-10 Jose Juan Barea

:lol

sook
03-18-2010, 09:53 PM
Hakeem, Magic, Kareem, Bird all had the best individual seasons.

djohn2oo8
03-18-2010, 09:57 PM
09-10 Jose Juan Barea

:lmao

djohn2oo8
03-18-2010, 09:57 PM
The New Jersey Nets

cobbler
03-18-2010, 10:03 PM
61-62 Oscar... season avg: 30.8 pts, 12.5 reb, 11.4 assists

61-61 Wilt... season avg: 50.4 pts, 25.7 reb, 48.5 mins per game

JoeTait75
03-18-2010, 10:04 PM
Russel coached, and played his team to a title. The end.

:tu

JamStone
03-18-2010, 10:43 PM
61-62 Oscar... season avg: 30.8 pts, 12.5 reb, 11.4 assists

61-61 Wilt... season avg: 50.4 pts, 25.7 reb, 48.5 mins per game

This is why I said 61-62 Russell.

Those two put up those historical and unparalleled statistical seasons yet Russell won the League MVP that same season and led the Celts to the championship that year.

baseline bum
03-18-2010, 10:56 PM
No votes for Dwayne Wade 05-06?

:stirpot:

himat
03-18-2010, 11:11 PM
This is why I said 61-62 Russell.

Those two put up those historical and unparalleled statistical seasons yet Russell won the League MVP that same season and led the Celts to the championship that year.

:toast When people discuss the best player of all time the discussion usually involved this guy and of course MJ.

When I look at Wilt's stats it amazes me that he only won a few championships. If he would have been a great winner he might actually be the winner of that discussion.

Blake
03-19-2010, 12:19 PM
"What is the best season anybody ever had in the nba?"
The question is equivalent to: "what player reached the highest level of play and when was that?"


Make up your mind about what you are asking.


And last but not least consider achievement. Where did wilt get with a much better supporting cast? Consider how did he earn his rings. Consider never being great defensively in a crap fg era with a HUGE size/athleticism advantage. Consider how he approached the game and how a guy like hakeem/bill russell/mj aproached it= the mental facet of the game. Bottom line: The game is not empty stats.

he was great defensively. You just don't know it.

Wilt's 66-67 year was the greatest individual season ever.

stretch
03-19-2010, 12:43 PM
he was great defensively. You just don't know it.

Wilt's 66-67 year was the greatest individual season ever.

amongst awful, massively overmatched players. his stats would probably be more comparable to shaqs stats if he played in todays league.

Blake
03-19-2010, 12:45 PM
amongst awful, massively overmatched players. his stats would probably be more comparable to shaqs stats if he played in todays league.

irrelevant

stretch
03-19-2010, 01:15 PM
irrelevant

good one

cobbler
03-19-2010, 02:14 PM
:toast When people discuss the best player of all time the discussion usually involved this guy and of course MJ.

When I look at Wilt's stats it amazes me that he only won a few championships. If he would have been a great winner he might actually be the winner of that discussion.

A big reason for that is the Celts were so stacked and won 11 years during his career. Same goes for the likes of Oscar, Baylor, West etc. All greats of the game with just a couple of titles between them.

Blake
03-19-2010, 02:32 PM
good one

good to hear from you, man!

lefty
03-19-2010, 02:55 PM
Hakeem 93-94

Sure, he got help from clutch mofo's (Cassell, Horry, Ellie), but he didn't have another star with him that season

Michael had Pip
Magic had Kareem, Worthy, McAdoo (although Bob had a reduced role)
Bird had McHale and Parrish
Kareem and Big O had each other in Milwaukee
Wilt and West

Hakeem 93-94: MVP and NBA champ'