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Koolaid_Man
03-18-2010, 07:27 PM
Kobe Bryant can dominate the ball and take the Lakers out of their offense. In other breaking news, the sun rises in the East and Kirstie Alley may have put on a few pounds.

So Dave McMenamin of ESPNLosAngeles asked the Lakers shooting coach Craig Hodges if anyone stands up to Kobe (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=5002714) on this team, if anyone who tells him to start moving the ball and sharing.

"No," Hodges says flatly when I ask him at one point in the first half if any players on the team stand up to Kobe Bryant and critique him if he does something detrimental to the team. On this occasion it was Bryant not sprinting back on defense after turning the ball over with a bad pass.

"Not one. They all kiss his a--."
Welcome to the modern NBA locker room -- nobody really stands up to LeBron James, and Hodges admits nobody on his Bulls stood up to Jordan. Nobody barks at the Alpha Dog. And Phil Jackson just lets everybody figure things out for themselves, learning lessons that stick better that way.

Lakers fans may not like the waiting, may not like the lack-of-urgency, but Hodges expouses what other coaches ad players say -- the Lakers are bored with the season but they can flip the switch fast.

More so than confidence, Hodges thought that the Lakers were just a little bored with the season.

"There's enough games left now to really feel the need to be ready for the playoffs and our energy is getting to that playoff mentality."
This is a really great piece by McMenamin. Hodges is honest and expresses his love for Andrew Bynum and his frustration that the Lakers don't run the triangle well this season. He talks about Tex Winter (who coached Hodges in college). About how long Bryant can play.

Just don't expect any Kobe bashing. Hodges kisses his a-- plenty, too.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/lakers-all-kiss-kobes-a--.php

ChrisRichards
03-18-2010, 07:36 PM
If someone in LA had the guts to tell Kome as it is, im willing to bet the Lakers are on their way to a league leading 69 win season this year. The Lakers are too deep and talented to play second fiddle in season standiungs to Cleveland.

KobeBryant
03-18-2010, 07:53 PM
I eat first, everyone knows that, sons.

My man Craig Hodges was on the Bulls, he knows what's UP, that's my big boy.. In fact, I try to get as many guys that were affiliated to the MJ Bulls as I can. They know what's up, HOLLA!!

-MAMBA

ducks
03-18-2010, 09:08 PM
pop chews out duncan
duncan is better for that

ChrisRichards
03-18-2010, 09:24 PM
I eat first, everyone knows that, sons.

My man Craig Hodges was on the Bulls, he knows what's UP, that's my big boy.. In fact, I try to get as many guys that were affiliated to the MJ Bulls as I can. They know what's up, HOLLA!!

-MAMBA
rapist


holla

alchemist
03-18-2010, 09:24 PM
Kobe is the fucking man!

21_Blessings
03-18-2010, 09:27 PM
Kobe is the fucking man!

:flag:

JoeTait75
03-18-2010, 09:32 PM
The Lakers are too deep and talented to play second fiddle in season standiungs to Cleveland.

Yeah, with their four-and-a-half good players.

ChrisRichards
03-18-2010, 09:35 PM
Yeah, with their four-and-a-half good players.
Why 4 1/2 tait? I dont get it bud.

Lars
03-18-2010, 09:38 PM
And this is why teams will never be as good as the 80s/90s. There is too many prima donnas and too much false sense of entitlement.

Maxwell and Hakeem got into a fist fight in the Houston locker room pushing each other harder, especially when they fuck up.

Opposing teams best players actually hated each other and got into fights, they were true competitors. Now a days, its all hugging and kissing, back door deals to stack teams. There needs to be enforcers on teams that tell people to stop playing stupid when they are, even if they are making 20+ million. Enforcers have turned into Varejaos and Vulajics who dont enforce anymore, they just annoy the piss out of the other team.

21_Blessings
03-18-2010, 09:39 PM
The Cavs could dance their way to 70 wins and it wouldn't mean shit until they get to the finals and beat the Lakers in a 7 game series.

Until then, Cleveland will be forever known as Dallas-East.

alchemist
03-18-2010, 09:45 PM
Until then, Cleveland will be forever known as Dallas-East.
:lol

lefty
03-18-2010, 09:51 PM
LOL

Lot of sissies in today's NBA

Cartwright never hesitated to say 1 thing or 2 to MJ when it was necessary

j.dizzle
03-18-2010, 10:46 PM
The Cavs could dance their way to 70 wins and it wouldn't mean shit until they get to the finals and beat the Lakers in a 7 game series.

Until then, Cleveland will be forever known as Dallas-East.

:lmao Damn thats a good analogy actually.:toast

SomeCallMeTim
03-18-2010, 11:06 PM
LOL

Lot of sissies in today's NBA

Cartwright never hesitated to say 1 thing or 2 to MJ when it was necessary

I remember hearing about Cartwright going off on Pippen after Pippen's infamous refusal to go back in for a last-second shot that PJ drew up for another player.

But I don't recall ever hearing about Cartwright going off on Jordan. When did that happen?

namlook
03-18-2010, 11:08 PM
But I don't recall ever hearing about Cartwright going off on Jordan. When did that happen?

I doubt that happened.

Killakobe81
03-18-2010, 11:09 PM
Like Craig said they know who thealpha dog is ...Kobe can be an ass no doubt about it ...
But where did he learn this? By idolizing and imitating the GOAT (according to most) MJ.

That is why I always preffered Magic to Kobe and MJ ...

Those that hate on Kobe for his "peronality", arrogance womanizing etc might as well hate Jordan, too. The hypocrisy is hilarious ....

daslicer
03-18-2010, 11:31 PM
Yes it did. Bill put MJ in his place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igwQLjOqFAc

Yes it did happen watch at the 55 second part of this clip it pretty much sums it up right there.

On a sidenote the lakers as a team will always kiss Kobe's ass I think the majority of them are not scared of him but moreso scared of being traded. The Odoms,Bynums,Gasols, are all divas that love living the LA lifestyle no way would they want to give it up even if they have to take shit from Kobe.

SomeCallMeTim
03-19-2010, 12:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igwQLjOqFAc

Yes it did happen watch at the 55 second part of this clip it pretty much sums it up right there.

On a sidenote the lakers as a team will always kiss Kobe's ass I think the majority of them are not scared of him but moreso scared of being traded. The Odoms,Bynums,Gasols, are all divas that love living the LA lifestyle no way would they want to give it up even if they have to take shit from Kobe.

More like most are not alpha dogs themselves. Odom is passive. Gasol is passive-aggressive. Bynum seems like he could emerge as a leader later on in life but he is young and immature. Artest can be aggressive at times but I would not call him an alpha.

The only other true leader on the team is Fisher and he's not an in-your-face type.

j.dizzle
03-19-2010, 04:29 AM
Damn MJ was a crazy motha fucker hahaha gotta appreciate him getting on his teammates at times..Sometimes ppl need to get chewed out or hit to get them to wake up.

lefty
03-19-2010, 07:54 AM
I remember hearing about Cartwright going off on Pippen after Pippen's infamous refusal to go back in for a last-second shot that PJ drew up for another player.

But I don't recall ever hearing about Cartwright going off on Jordan. When did that happen?
"Another player" :lol

Poor Kukoc

2Cleva
03-19-2010, 08:18 AM
The original article is a great read

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=5002714

Lots of team insight. More writers should do articles like this for their teams.

Sportcamper
03-19-2010, 09:11 AM
Kobe does not shoot the ball enough IMHO...

Phillip
03-19-2010, 09:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igwQLjOqFAc

Yes it did happen watch at the 55 second part of this clip it pretty much sums it up right there.

On a sidenote the lakers as a team will always kiss Kobe's ass I think the majority of them are not scared of him but moreso scared of being traded. The Odoms,Bynums,Gasols, are all divas that love living the LA lifestyle no way would they want to give it up even if they have to take shit from Kobe.

Yeah, and I believe in The Jordan Rules it said that he was one of the few that would stand up to MJ. One time I believe he threatened to beat him up or something, because he found out that MJ was going to the teammates and telling them not to pass to Cartwright in the clutch because he had such bad hands.

Many PackYao
03-19-2010, 01:49 PM
Maxwell and Hakeem got into a fist fight in the Houston locker room pushing each other harder, especially when they fuck up.


Really? When did that happen? I only heard about Maxwell getting into it with Carl Herrera and Dave Jamerson.

lefty
03-19-2010, 02:28 PM
Yeah, and I believe in The Jordan Rules it said that he was one of the few that would stand up to MJ. One time I believe he threatened to beat him up or something, because he found out that MJ was going to the teammates and telling them not to pass to Cartwright in the clutch because he had such bad hands.
Typical MJ :lmao

- I'm sure he is glad Cartwright was around, because Bill always played well against Ewing

-He wanted Longley gone during the 1995 summer, but KFC told him to be patient.

Although Longley was a shitty player, he fitted very well in the triangle offense

z0sa
03-19-2010, 02:58 PM
I'm sure all of the SA Spurs kiss Tim Duncan's ass..

lefty
03-19-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm sure all of the SA Spurs kiss Tim Duncan's ass..
How do you explain Bonner's name in the roster?

stretch
03-19-2010, 03:16 PM
Typical MJ :lmao

- I'm sure he is glad Cartwright was around, because Bill always played well against Ewing

-He wanted Longley gone during the 1995 summer, but KFC told him to be patient.

Although Longley was a shitty player, he fitted very well in the triangle offense

Longley's ability to shoot really helped stretch defenses, and open the middle up a LOT more for guys like Jordan. people talk about how the bulls never had a post player, but IMO just getting high percentage points in the paint is what matters most, whether its by having a guy posting up, or by having someone slashing inside for easy buckets. he was a great fit at center for that team.

lefty
03-19-2010, 03:26 PM
Longley's ability to shoot really helped stretch defenses, and open the middle up a LOT more for guys like Jordan. people talk about how the bulls never had a post player, but IMO just getting high percentage points in the paint is what matters most, whether its by having a guy posting up, or by having someone slashing inside for easy buckets. he was a great fit at center for that team.
Exactly.

His passing game was also good, especially when Jordan was making a backdoor cut.