View Full Version : Ex-high school star Jeremy Tyler, 18, quits Israeli team
gaKNOW!blee
03-19-2010, 11:26 AM
Remember this kid?
JERUSALEM -- Former U.S. high school basketball star Jeremy Tyler quit Israeli team Maccabi Haifa and returned home Friday, cutting short a disappointing first pro season.
The 18-year-old Tyler arrived in Israel on a wave of publicity in August after deciding to skip his senior year at San Diego High School to gain professional experience.
However, his time in Israel was fraught with problems, and he left two months before the end of the season.
"Due to personal matters, Jeremy chose to leave the team on his own will on March 18 and return home to San Diego," Maccabi Haifa owner Jeffery Rosen said in a statement. "We wish Jeremy all the best."
In the 10 games Tyler played for Haifa, the 6-foot-11 power forward averaged only 2.1 points and 1.9 rebounds in 7.6 minutes. Tyler, who reportedly earned a $140,000 salary, found it hard to adapt to the pro game and couldn't find a place in Maccabi Haifa's starting lineup.
His frustration began to show. Last month, he walked out on the team at halftime to protest not getting more minutes. For the last three games, he sat on the bench not wearing a uniform after being left off the Haifa squad.
koriwhat
03-19-2010, 11:34 AM
hahaha
Kill_Bill_Pana
03-19-2010, 11:36 AM
Americans in this forum GUARANTEED he would "dominate" even if he played in a "big Euroleague club". Well he cannot even hack it in a small Israel league club.
I think Americans need to start growing up and admitting they greatly exaggerate level of American basketball. The forum was full of Americans guaranteeing he would be in a big Euroleague club and would "crush the competition". Instead even in small club in Israel league is too much for him.
You guys need to get grasp on reality.
Mel_13
03-19-2010, 11:43 AM
Americans in this forum GUARANTEED he would "dominate" even if he played in a "big Euroleague club". Well he cannot even hack it in a small Israel league club.
I think Americans need to start growing up and admitting they greatly exaggerate level of American basketball. The forum was full of Americans guaranteeing he would be in a big Euroleague club and would "crush the competition". Instead even in small club in Israel league is too much for him.
You guys need to get grasp on reality.
He is #1 prospect for 2010 NBA draft. As soon as he signs with Euro club he will be automatically eligible for 2010 draft and experts agree he would be above Wall.
:wakeup
Americans in this forum GUARANTEED he would "dominate" even if he played in a "big Euroleague club". Well he cannot even hack it in a small Israel league club.
I think Americans need to start growing up and admitting they greatly exaggerate level of American basketball. The forum was full of Americans guaranteeing he would be in a big Euroleague club and would "crush the competition". Instead even in small club in Israel league is too much for him.
You guys need to get grasp on reality.
Don't you ever get tired of bitching?
Spursfan092120
03-19-2010, 12:08 PM
Americans in this forum GUARANTEED he would "dominate" even if he played in a "big Euroleague club". Well he cannot even hack it in a small Israel league club.
I think Americans need to start growing up and admitting they greatly exaggerate level of American basketball. The forum was full of Americans guaranteeing he would be in a big Euroleague club and would "crush the competition". Instead even in small club in Israel league is too much for him.
You guys need to get grasp on reality.
You're a damn idiot...not all of us said that. I said it was a mistake for him to leave high school early, and that he needed to adapt his game more before playing pro ball anywhere.
IronMexican
03-19-2010, 12:10 PM
$140,000
Pretty good.
BRHornet45
03-19-2010, 12:19 PM
sons I GUARANTEE you that he is a registered Democrat ... with the sense of entitlement like he has shown there is absolutely no doubt. son you're not owed anything. earn your minutes bitch boy. God bless
gaKNOW!blee
03-19-2010, 12:21 PM
Americans in this forum GUARANTEED he would "dominate" even if he played in a "big Euroleague club". Well he cannot even hack it in a small Israel league club.
I think Americans need to start growing up and admitting they greatly exaggerate level of American basketball. The forum was full of Americans guaranteeing he would be in a big Euroleague club and would "crush the competition". Instead even in small club in Israel league is too much for him.
You guys need to get grasp on reality.
maybe they just cant judge talent, hes only getting 7 minutes
gaKNOW!blee
03-19-2010, 12:29 PM
sons I GUARANTEE you that he is a registered Democrat ... with the sense of entitlement like he has shown there is absolutely no doubt. son you're not owed anything. earn your minutes bitch boy. God bless
its more likely because he's black :lol
BRHornet45
03-19-2010, 12:38 PM
its more likely because he's black :lol
racist!!!!
anakha
03-19-2010, 12:45 PM
Even if he was playing horribly, he should have stuck it out. Finishing out the season would at least have spoken about the guy's maturity, if nothing else. Quitting now just makes the kid look like a brat.
I know the situation isn't that similar, but Brandon Jennings's stint abroad wasn't all that successful, stats-wise, either. But the experience of playing on the professional level has to at least have been a big aid in the guy's development.
gaKNOW!blee
03-19-2010, 12:52 PM
Even if he was playing horribly, he should have stuck it out. Finishing out the season would at least have spoken about the guy's maturity, if nothing else. Quitting now just makes the kid look like a brat.
I know the situation isn't that similar, but Brandon Jennings's stint abroad wasn't all that successful, stats-wise, either. But the experience of playing on the professional level has to at least have been a big aid in the guy's development.
I dont remember, did jennings quit, or did he just say how much it sucked?
baseline bum
03-19-2010, 12:52 PM
Going to Israel wasn't a mistake; going to Israel and acting like a spoiled child was. Man, this guy slipped from probably being a top 5 pick to a second round project in a year. Ouch.
21_Blessings
03-19-2010, 12:55 PM
I know the situation isn't that similar, but Brandon Jennings's stint abroad wasn't all that successful, stats-wise, either. But the experience of playing on the professional level has to at least have been a big aid in the guy's development.
Israel isn't exactly Europe right now. (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/palestinian-militants-launch-rocket-attack-in-israel-kill-worker/story-e6frf7lf-1225842688121)
Sitting on the bench behind inferior players next to a warzone isn't going to aid his development basketball wise.
sons I GUARANTEE you that he is a registered Democrat ... with the sense of entitlement like he has shown there is absolutely no doubt. son you're not owed anything. earn your minutes bitch boy. God bless
Well no shit, a republican would rather nuke Israel than play for 'em.
21_Blessings
03-19-2010, 01:18 PM
Well no shit, a republican would rather nuke Israel than play for 'em.
You are seriously dumb.
mogrovejo
03-19-2010, 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/Style_Templates/nba/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3391977#post3391977)
He is #1 prospect for 2010 NBA draft. As soon as he signs with Euro club he will be automatically eligible for 2010 draft and experts agree he would be above Wall.
:rollin
He should move to the D-League. Going to Europe should only be an option for excellent prospects + very mature kids.
(http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3391977#post3391977)
anakha
03-19-2010, 02:04 PM
I dont remember, did jennings quit, or did he just say how much it sucked?
IIRC, he only signed a 1-year contract. He only intended to play overseas until he was eligible for the NBA draft, anyway.
Israel isn't exactly Europe right now. (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/palestinian-militants-launch-rocket-attack-in-israel-kill-worker/story-e6frf7lf-1225842688121)
Sitting on the bench behind inferior players next to a warzone isn't going to aid his development basketball wise.
1) If his reasons for leaving were security concerns, sure, I'd cut him some slack. Doesn't seem to be the case, though.
2) That professional team's primary goal was to win basketball games, not develop the kid. He may be more talented any any other big man on the team, but if he was indeed struggling to adapt to the game over there, why should the coach potentially sacrifice wins to get him acclimated?
Besides, I'm pretty sure that team knew he had NBA aspirations. Why sacrifice team success to ensure the development of a guy who may not stick around anyway?
duhoh
03-19-2010, 02:10 PM
man KBP's english sounds natural, while his attempted euro-accent sounds so forced.
anyhow this kid is a brat.
oh and cane, the republicans are the ones that are siding with israel retard.
21_Blessings
03-19-2010, 02:17 PM
1) If his reasons for leaving were security concerns, sure, I'd cut him some slack. Doesn't seem to be the case, though.
You do realize rockets are flying for the first time in like a year after Israel just took a shit all over the peace talks.
2) That professional team's primary goal was to win basketball games, not develop the kid. He may be more talented any any other big man on the team, but if he was indeed struggling to adapt to the game over there, why should the coach potentially sacrifice wins to get him acclimated?
You answer your own question in the next point.
Besides, I'm pretty sure that team knew he had NBA aspirations. Why sacrifice team success to ensure the development of a guy who may not stick around anyway?
Oh ok if the team knew than it was mutual. Because obviously this kid wants to play in the NBA and not become the next David.
Again, if you're sitting on the bench behind inferior talent (which he is) then it's in his best interest survival wise (see: not dying from a fucking BOMB or ROCKET) and career wise to leave. If the team isn't interested in giving him playing time because they know he's just a rental then they should have never have employed him in the first place.
I'm not defending him acting like a spoiled bitch but he made the right choice to get the hell out of a bad situation.
djohn2oo8
03-19-2010, 02:19 PM
You aren't really that stupid are you?
:lol
You aren't really that stupid are you?
You're right. Republicans can't play basketball worth a damn to even get Israel's consideration. :toast
anakha
03-19-2010, 02:38 PM
You do realize rockets are flying for the first time in like a year after Israel just took a shit all over the peace talks.
If evidence comes out that he was scared of the security situation over there, then I'll happily take his side on the matter.
As it stands right now, the only information we have is that he was pissed over not getting playing time. Without anything else to go on, that speaks badly about his maturity level.
The 'personal matters' reason may not mean anything at all, considering how that excuse has been used in recent years.
If the team isn't interested in giving him playing time because they know he's just a rental then they should have never have employed him in the first place.
I'm not defending him acting like a spoiled bitch but he made the right choice to get the hell out of a bad situation.
I may just be presuming here, but I doubt that was the team's mentality when they signed him.
'Oh, here's a highly-touted kid with potential who might be able to help us win now. If he can contribute right away, why not sign him? If he can't contribute right away, it's not that painful an investment because he's leaving for the NBA soon.'
Well no shit, a republican would rather nuke Israel than play for 'em.
That would be against their religion.
mogrovejo
03-19-2010, 03:19 PM
He wasn't sitting on the bench behind inferior talent. If he was a better player, he'd have played. But he isn't. And he's been out of the team for awhile, he only left today because his agent and the club have been negotiating, it has nothing to do with missiles.
Of course the team was interested in giving him playing time, that's why they were paying him a salary. He just wasn't good enough. Happens a lot.
mogrovejo
03-19-2010, 03:23 PM
One of the most heralded European prospects entering this draft, Alexey Shved, has barely played for 2 seasons. But he moved to a smaller club in January and has been getting some minutes and putting up some good numbers since then. That's basically the situation with Tyler. He needs to find at a lower level because his current ability is still too far from the level he was trying to play at.
Allanon
03-19-2010, 03:38 PM
Jeremy Tyler's screwed.
He can't play in the NBA and he can't play in college.
If he had stayed in school, he definitely would have gotten a college scholarship and probably would have been an NBA drafft pick.
mogrovejo
03-19-2010, 03:58 PM
He can play in the D-League. It's working for Latavious Williams. And he can play in a minor European league and still make some decent money. If he's good, he'll get the scouting.
ginobili's bald spot
03-19-2010, 06:05 PM
Well no shit, a republican would rather nuke Israel than play for 'em.
The republicans hate Israel? :lol This guy obviously knows politics.
BRHornet45
03-19-2010, 06:06 PM
The republicans hate Israel? :lol This guy obviously knows politics.
and son its blind sheep like him who put Lord Barack in the White House because the media told him to... dance puppets dance!!!!!
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-19-2010, 06:10 PM
I'm a Democrat but :lmao at the Nuke Israel comment. Bush won Florida in 2004 by several hundred thousand votes because Florida Jews who normally vote Democrat were so impressed with his policy towards Israel from 2000-2004 they went with him. Just look at Joe Leiberman, he was the Democratic VP candidate in 2000 and now most people consider him a Republican.
ginobili's bald spot
03-19-2010, 06:28 PM
and son its blind sheep like him who put Lord Barack in the White House because the media told him to... dance puppets dance!!!!!
Sons I'm not a republican or democrat. That's just a hilariously uninformed comment considering that liking Israel TOO much is one of the knocks on republicans. Not that anyone here over the age of 12 needs that explained to them. On a positive note, it's nice to see San Antonio defending it's title as one of the nations dumbest cities. At least that's one title they can successfully defend.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-19-2010, 06:29 PM
That might even be a title they can successfully defend from 1999-2008.
Pelicans78
03-19-2010, 06:38 PM
$140,000
Pretty good.
At this point, that's all he's gonna make. He can't even play college basketball anymore since he played professional ball. Dude won't be able to develop his game. Within 5 years, he's gonna be a regular poster on this board and will claim he's more knowledgeable than anyone on this board since he's a former player.
Ghazi
03-19-2010, 06:40 PM
What's Israel?
JJ Hickson
03-19-2010, 06:51 PM
What's Israel?
Shut your smelly terrorist ass up.
mogrovejo
03-19-2010, 06:52 PM
At this point, that's all he's gonna make. He can't even play college basketball anymore since he played professional ball. Dude won't be able to develop his game. Within 5 years, he's gonna be a regular poster on this board and will claim he's more knowledgeable than anyone on this board since he's a former player.
You're too naive. If the kid indeed has talent and next season tears the D-League or the Belgian league or the Spanish 3rd division apart, NBA gms won't care less if he flamed out in an Israeli team and will draft him.
If he doesn't have talent, than he was smart to make those $140k.
Ghazi
03-19-2010, 07:06 PM
I've never heard of a nation called Israel. Are you all referring to the occupied Palestinian territories? :smokin :stirpot:
WESTACKED
03-19-2010, 07:15 PM
I've never heard of a nation called Israel. Are you all referring to the occupied Palestinian territories? :smokin :stirpot:
He concurs
http://www.marxists.org/espanol/arafat/arafat-2002.jpg
Spursfan092120
03-19-2010, 07:22 PM
Jeremy Tyler's screwed.
He can't play in the NBA and he can't play in college.
If he had stayed in school, he definitely would have gotten a college scholarship and probably would have been an NBA drafft pick.
Exactly what I was saying he should have done in the first place.
anakha
03-19-2010, 08:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5008825
"Five or six NBA scouts have told me recently to just have Jeremy come home and start practicing, that the experience in Israel is not detrimental to his future," Vaccaro said.
The kid appears to still have a shot at making it. He's a big with potential, and you know how GMs are all over those.
mogrovejo
03-19-2010, 08:11 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5008825
The kid appears to still have a shot at making it. He's a big with potential, and you know how GMs are all over those.
:rolleyes
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4168465&postcount=39
mogrovejo
03-19-2010, 08:15 PM
This overreaction to this is quite pathetic. Every season there are proven college/D-League players who go to Europe, fail and after a couple of months are back in the US. NCAA champs, Div1 Conferences POYs, D-League All-Stars, even NBA scrubs. Heck, it happened to Von Wafer this season, a guy who's proved he can contribute something in the NBA - he was quickly fired of his team because he couldn't crack the rotation. The idea that this could mean the end of the kid's career is frankly retarded.
Kill_Bill_Pana
03-19-2010, 09:18 PM
This overreaction to this is quite pathetic. Every season there are proven college/D-League players who go to Europe, fail and after a couple of months are back in the US. NCAA champs, Div1 Conferences POYs, D-League All-Stars, even NBA scrubs. Heck, it happened to Von Wafer this season, a guy who's proved he can contribute something in the NBA - he was quickly fired of his team because he couldn't crack the rotation. The idea that this could mean the end of the kid's career is frankly retarded.
Most Americans are delusional about level of American players just as you are delusional about level of European players.
anakha
03-19-2010, 09:38 PM
Most Americans are delusional about level of American players just as you are delusional about level of European players.
He is #1 prospect for 2010 NBA draft. As soon as he signs with Euro club he will be automatically eligible for 2010 draft and experts agree he would be above Wall.
Spursfan092120
03-19-2010, 09:45 PM
Most Americans are delusional about level of American players just as you are delusional about level of European players.
lol..you really don't know when to stop digging, do you?
Bukefal
03-20-2010, 06:54 AM
Stupid mistake, he fucked up and its going to influence his draft chances. Not everyone is a brandon jennings. His attitude in Israel was so wrong.
gaKNOW!blee
03-20-2010, 08:17 AM
just let these motherfuckers in out of high school.
daslicer
03-20-2010, 10:29 AM
He wil get a few more chances ibecause in this world talent is greater then having quote on quote good character. Yeah he flamed out but if the kids really talented then there will be GMs out there willing to give him a chance. At this point of time he is a low risk high reward prospect. Hell I wouldn't mind the spurs taking a chance on this kid. I think what will happen is this kid will play in the D-league for a year tear it up and then get called up by a bunch of nba teams.
Indazone
03-20-2010, 12:17 PM
his first mistake was playing for racist israel in the first place.
+100000
21_Blessings
03-20-2010, 02:01 PM
He played for Israel?
He played for Mossad :downspin:
exstatic
03-20-2010, 05:38 PM
"Five or six NBA scouts have told me recently to just have Jeremy come home and start practicing, that the experience in Israel is not detrimental to his future," Vaccaro said.
Did you expect Vaccaro to say anything else? That's what happens when you take basketball career advice from a shoe salesman. Ed fucking Bundy Vaccaro.
21_Blessings
03-20-2010, 10:28 PM
Did you expect Vaccaro to say anything else? That's what happens when you take basketball career advice from a shoe salesman. Ed fucking Bundy Vaccaro.
Vaccaro knows what he's talking about though. And he's right. No NBA team is gonna give a flying fuck about what he did in Israel unless the owner is secretly a Zionist or something.
What he does in the the Nike camp and private workouts will have much more bearing on his future.
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