Messi=GOD

[ElNono]

Yes, he played great vs Madrid. However,

https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif

[dfens]

will misty play vs urguuay tbh?

[lefty]

will misty play vs urguuay tbh?

He has never played against Chile

[140]

He has never played against Chile
Argentina wishes he hadn't tbh :lol

[Canyonero]

Argentina wishes he hadn't tbh :lol

Worked for Penaldo smh

[lefty]

Worked for Penaldo smh
Alphanaldo knew what it took, stepped aside and trusted his teammates, Missi ballhogged and choked :lol

[ElNono]

Messi doppelganger...

858978084913065984

[lefty]

How tall is he tbh

[apalisoc_9]

Messi doppelganger...

858978084913065984

meh...he only looks like messi because messi has fake hair colours.

plus that guy looks like at least he's legit 5 foot 8..not fake 5'7 like messi when in truth he's actually 5'5

[dfens]

https://pics.onsizzle.com/leo-messi-titles-with-argentina-not-world-cup-2006-not-2930975.png

[Bynumite]

What kind of 3rd world tournament is the copa america that they host it in back to back years? Despite that midget still can't win one? :lmao

[Canyonero]

Alphanaldo knew what it took, stepped aside and trusted his teammates, Missi ballhogged and choked :lol

Admiting Penaldo is a liability :wow

[dfens]

Admiting Penaldo is a liability :wow

doing whatever is needed to win tbh.:lol

https://media.tenor.co/images/3ed84016385a06560957920423fea2f8/tenor.gif

[Brazil]

Meanwhile the real god:

https://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/la-une-du-hors-serie-maradona/1500000000812198/0:59,839:618-624-416-75/9d56a.jpg

Dude get a special edition of 40 pages of a french newspaper to celebrate 30 years of the cup / championship in Napoli :lol

Now that's a real alpha goat

[lefty]

Meanwhile the real god:

https://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/la-une-du-hors-serie-maradona/1500000000812198/0:59,839:618-624-416-75/9d56a.jpg

Dude get a special edition of 40 pages of a french newspaper to celebrate 30 years of the cup / championship in Napoli :lol

Now that's a real alpha goat

:worthy:

[DAF86]

Meanwhile the real god:

https://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/la-une-du-hors-serie-maradona/1500000000812198/0:59,839:618-624-416-75/9d56a.jpg

Dude get a special edition of 40 pages of a french newspaper to celebrate 30 years of the cup / championship in Napoli :lol

Now that's a real alpha goat

And you are posting this here why?

You look like the haters upstairs that turn everythread into a "X" vs "X" thread, tbh.

[ElNono]

DieGOAT, tbh

[apalisoc_9]

Meanwhile the real god:

https://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/la-une-du-hors-serie-maradona/1500000000812198/0:59,839:618-624-416-75/9d56a.jpg

Dude get a special edition of 40 pages of a french newspaper to celebrate 30 years of the cup / championship in Napoli :lol

Now that's a real alpha goat

[Brazil]

And you are posting this here why?

You look like the haters upstairs that turn everythread into a "X" vs "X" thread, tbh.

https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif

[dfens]

Meanwhile the real god:

https://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/la-une-du-hors-serie-maradona/1500000000812198/0:59,839:618-624-416-75/9d56a.jpg

Dude get a special edition of 40 pages of a french newspaper to celebrate 30 years of the cup / championship in Napoli :lol

Now that's a real alpha goat


the gold standard :toast

[dfens]

https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif

:lol

[DAF86]

https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif

I which part of that post did I display even a little bit of saltyness, tbh? :lol

I was just calling you on your hypocrite hating ways son. :lol

[lefty]

https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif

[Brazil]

:lol

[Brazil]

I already asked my dad to buy it for me... gonna be a great read tbh

[lefty]

I already asked my dad to buy it for me... gonna be a great read tbh

Gonna get one too

Pages are about to get sticky

[Brazil]

Gonna get one too

Pages are about to get sticky

:lol tbh

[dfens]

I'll never forget that argentina - italy semifinal tbh, italian fans booed the life out of everything except that match. maradona truly was a far bigger icon than messi, it's actually similar with the jordan-lebron comparison, one is the face of the game while another was above the game. And to think maradona accomplished all that he did while coking on the regular and eating questionably ... just imagine this dude growing up at barcelona :wow .. and people say misty is better smh :lmao

[dfens]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vfIv9o-XOE

found this comment on that video


Diego is the greatest. You have to take into consideration you could actually tackle in those days, give someone a "reducer" or two or four until you even got a warning from the referee... That's why players like Tommy Smith can't even walk today because of the punishment they went through. Then you take into account his height and weight, the strength and endurance he showed against men much bigger than him, in an age where a cheeky elbow or an attempt to break your legs were common place; during his career the actual game physically changed - the average distance ran during a game more than doubled - which meant as he developed the game did in a degree never seen before and yet he stayed at the top, internationally he did something very few players have been able to do...Cristiano has just done it for my be-lovered Portugal and people are talking about what a great achievement it is for him to do it, and that's true, but Maradona did it first and at the World Cup no less! Then you can to look at domestic and not only his scoring at a young age but the achievements with Napoli. Being half Italian, and my family being from Roma, I can tell you that a club the size of Roma still, still, have only won the league 3 times in their history. In Italy, the north has money the south struggle. It has always been this way hence Milano and Torino as cities and as clubs have a far more illustrious history, and despite going to the hardest league in the world, and at best being 4th or 5th favourites at the beginning of the year, Napoli won two leagues with his huge influence. That would be like Messi going to Valencia or Sevilla and them winning the league 2 out of 3 years... Can you realistically see that happening? It's easy when you have the best teammates but what when you don't? Messi has proven at international level he can't do it. No Xavi or Iniesta! Maradona was in that same boat internationally and at Napoli and yet he won! When was the last time someone tried to break Messi's legs? When was the last time that happened 20 times in a game? I'm willing to bet never. Messi is undoubtably an amazing player but the game is much more in favour to him. Ask yourself, if you swapped both around, would Maradona play better in todays game? I would say yes. Would Messi play worse in the 80s than he would today? I would also say yes. I think almost every player would and yet the argument is always so close and often by people who haven't watched enough of Maradona to say. For what Maradona went through and gave when everything suggested failure and still be held up as the greatest or one of the top 3 in my eyes just shows him to be the greatest. That old saying "that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is so relevant. Messi has had it easy, Maradona hasn't and yet skill and ability you cannot argue between the two... This is why Maradona is the greatest.

damn sons this nigga just went all in tbh :wow:wow:wow

[lefty]

I'll never forget that argentina - italy semifinal tbh, italian fans booed the life out of everything except that match. maradona truly was a far bigger icon than messi, it's actually similar with the jordan-lebron comparison, one is the face of the game while another was above the game. And to think maradona accomplished all that he did while coking on the regular and eating questionably ... just imagine this dude growing up at barcelona :wow .. and people say misty is better smh :lmao
Not to mention he shat on Italian fans in .... Napoli :wow

That's MJ levels of ruthless Alphaness

[Brazil]

^ I honestly did not see that much of Pele tbh so I don't argue too much when the take is Pele is the greatest and Maradona second. I'd say those two are on top of the list with a groupe of other players quite far away from them.

Maradona is a legend

[DAF86]

I'll never forget that argentina - italy semifinal tbh, italian fans booed the life out of everything except that match. maradona truly was a far bigger icon than messi, it's actually similar with the jordan-lebron comparison, one is the face of the game while another was above the game. And to think maradona accomplished all that he did while coking on the regular and eating questionably ... just imagine this dude growing up at barcelona :wow .. and people say misty is better smh :lmao

"except that match". Italians booed everything about that match, even our fucking anthem. :lol

[dfens]

"except that match". Italians booed everything about that match, even our fucking anthem. :lol

son maradona belongs to that absolutely rare class of players who are greater than the world cup, and who win them or almost win them ALONE: '86 maradona or '06 zidane are solid examples, players who dictate the game, score the big goals, and transcend the game to become icons.

Missi hasn't won shit, hasn't dominated a single tournament, lost with the #1 seed 4 times in copa america, including one at home (2007, 2011, 2015, 2016) ... and he has been utterly unimpressive at the world cup, performing like a regular world class player (suarez, penaldo, xavi, etc). The most relevant NT tournament image of missi is misty tbh :lol, cucked by an absolutely pedestrian chile team. Messi is just a barcelona icon and all this missi = god is just salty nonsense.

[lefty]

I would put Zidane 06 just behind Diego 86

ZZ was a maestro in 06 but Ribery's performance is criminally underrated

[dfens]

I would put Zidane 06 just behind Diego 86

ZZ was a maestro in 06 but Ribery's performance is criminally underrated

the only other player that constantly put in work for that team. Tbh after zidane retired the first time it was obvious just how much he elevated the other players around him, both on and off the pitch, ribery has always been very talented but a 2nd fiddle star imo.

and that '06 tournament was staaaacked as fuck, some of these rosters sons :wow:wow:wow italy/netherlands/argentina/brazil/france/england/portugal/spain :wow:wow:wow:wow even sweden/ivory coast/ghana/ukraine were loaded. Damn tbh, that was a great world cup, best I've ever seen imo, I'll tell my grandchildren about how I saw it live :toast:toast

[DAF86]

son maradona belongs to that absolutely rare class of players who are greater than the world cup, and who win them or almost win them ALONE: '86 maradona or '06 zidane are solid examples, players who dictate the game, score the big goals, and transcend the game to become icons.

Missi hasn't won shit, hasn't dominated a single tournament, lost with the #1 seed 4 times in copa america, including one at home (2007, 2011, 2015, 2016) ... and he has been utterly unimpressive at the world cup, performing like a regular world class player (suarez, penaldo, xavi, etc). The most relevant NT tournament image of missi is misty tbh :lol, cucked by an absolutely pedestrian chile team. Messi is just a barcelona icon and all this missi = god is just salty nonsense.

Messi=WC Golden ball winner.

Anyways, what does any of that have to do with the point of my original comment? :lol Goalpost moving much? :lol

[DAF86]

:lol '06 Zidane.

Losing his country a WC just because someone said something meany about his mummy. :lol

[dfens]

:lol '06 Zidane.

Losing his country a WC just because someone said something meany about his mummy. :lol

won a world cup scoring twice in the final, won a euro, had the 2nd most dominant run in history (after '86) at ANOTHER world cup, again scored in the final, giving France a huge over-achievement in one of the most loaded world cups in history (seriously just check the rosters, mind boggling). Yes the headbutt was tragic but that's how the story goes, not all players as pussified teary midgets, some of them have strong spines and some were already 'EC 'WC titled.

Son you've been extra salty lately tbh.

[dfens]

Messi=WC Golden ball winner.

Anyways, what does any of that have to do with the point of my original comment? :lol Goalpost moving much? :lol

son, I agree that messi was the best player at that tournament and has been the best in the last 6-7 years. What's his is his and I won't deny. What I'll say is that maradona would've won that match, simple as that, same level of talent but diego's heart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misty's heart and the rings show it. Compared to the competition diego also won with weaker teams.

[DAF86]

won a world cup scoring twice in the final, won a euro, had the 2nd most dominant run in history (after '86) at ANOTHER world cup, again scored in the final, giving France a huge over-achievement in one of the most loaded world cups in history (seriously just check the rosters, mind boggling). Yes the headbutt was tragic but that's how the story goes, not all players as pussified teary midgets, some of them have strong spines and some were already 'EC 'WC titled.

Son you've been extra salty lately tbh.

Again with the goal post moving son. You brought up '06 Zidane. Try to stay on topic. :lol

[DAF86]

son, I agree that messi was the best player at that tournament and has been the best in the last 6-7 years. What's his is his and I won't deny. What I'll say is that maradona would've won that match, simple as that, same level of talent but diego's heart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misty's heart and the rings show it. Compared to the competition diego also won with weaker teams.

Messi has considerably much more silverware than Maradona.

Regarding the typical, short minded, incomprobable comment: "maradona would've won that match" just let me tell you that Maradona played two WC finals in his life and, aside from a pass, he really didn't do much on either, tbh.

[dfens]

Messi has considerably much more silverware than Maradona.

Regarding the typical, short minded, incomprobable comment: "maradona would've won that match" just let me tell you that Maradona played two WC finals in his life and, aside from a pass, he really didn't do much on either, tbh.

Lmao he won them at barcelona in a 2-team league and in 6-team UCL, that's bill russell levels of food stamps.

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif

and @maradona ... that's 50% of argentina's finals and rings AND the greatest tournament in history in '86.
What does misty have besides a lucky (tbh) finals appearance? in an unimpressive tournament tbh. Who did he beat? A GOAT england squad? An exceptional italy squad in italy? Maybe a great brazil squad? Maybe the goat belgian side? A strong uruguay? No son, he beat iran, nigeria, greece, a young belgium and dieing netherlands... that's it.

[DAF86]

That GIF doesn't apply here but, fuck it, since we are at it... :lol

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif

[dfens]

That GIF doesn't apply here but, fuck it, since we are at it... :lol

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif

I'd be salty too if I were a misty fan and someone just shown me that maradona won more, with weaker teams, against FAR better opposition while also exposing misty for receiving the bill russell treatment of getting all his silverware in 2-team and 6-team leagues. :lmao:lmao

[DAF86]

I'd be salty too if I were a misty fan and someone just shown me that maradona won more, with weaker teams, against FAR better opposition while also exposing misty for receiving the bill russell treatment of getting all his silverware in 2-team and 6-team leagues. :lmao:lmao

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif

[lefty]

dfens doing work :lol

[Brazil]

Damn... I'm concerned about DAF, he is not a meltdown kind of guy but recently he is pissed and salty about everything... hope he will go back soon to his former self tbh

[lefty]

Manu > Messi

[Canyonero]

Manu > Messi

Hard to disagree tbh

[DAF86]

Folks here trying to sell the idea that I'm salty when I couldn't be happier. :lol

To me it looks like the salty ones are others, because it doesn't matter what happens, most of the people in this World think this way:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSNSvdXwD4

"He is the best. The best there is. The best there has ever been. Possibly the best there will ever be." :hat


https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif
:hat

[Brazil]

:lol classical of a salty human being claiming over and over you are not salty

[DAF86]

"He is the best. The best there is. The best there has ever been. Possibly the best there will ever be."

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif

[Bynumite]

He is the best. The best there is. The best there has ever been. Possibly the best there will ever be*

*Except when he's wearing an Argentina jersey

FIFY

Always read the fine print:wakeup

[lefty]

:lol

[DAF86]

FIFY

Always read the fine print:wakeup

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif

[lefty]

Bump tbh

[DAF86]

Another golden boot award, good bump, tbh. :toast

[lefty]

Another golden boot award, good bump, tbh. :toast

Wow :lol

[DAF86]

BTW, that goal today by the GOAT. :wow

[lefty]

BTW, that goal today by the GOAT. :wow
Also that missed sitter and missed penalty :lol

[140]

Also that missed sitter and missed penalty :lol
Shit I need video of that tbh :lol

[Canyonero]

lol quoting his alt

[ElNono]

Best player against Alaves today, tbqh...

[140]

Best player against Alaves today, tbqh...
:wow

[lefty]

Best player against Alaves today, tbqh...

[apalisoc_9]

Does God Settle for Scraps like Copa del rey?

What an abusive way of using word "God"

[dfens]

Does God Settle for Scraps like Copa del rey?

What an abusive way of using word "God"

god is a kind soul tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Does God Settle for Scraps like Copa del rey?

What an abusive way of using word "God"

No but when he wins it on the national stage he actually plays in the final and not having his team look far better without him.

[lefty]

Does God Settle for Scraps like Copa del rey?

What an abusive way of using word "God"
Well he is a God in a much smaller World

[dunkman]

Cristiano has to be considered Messi's equal, if not better.

[dfens]

Cristiano has to be considered Messi's equal, if not better.

tbh this is hilarious for various reasons :lol

[lefty]

tbh this is hilarious for various reasons :lol
Agreed, only Ronaldo is ALPHA

[Phenomanul]

I was thinking what American nations would automatically become WC contenders if Messi had their nationality.

The usual list of already contending nations comes to mind so I won't include them. But if I were to dwindle it down to nations that have good strikers but are in need of creative play the list would be:

1. Columbia (a Messi / James Rodriguez duo would be great football)
2. Mexico has a good enough defense (minus that 7-0 romp vs. Chile :lol) but would be elevated to contender if Messi joined the squad.
3. Chile (Messi would put them over the top tbh)

The point being that Ronaldo added to those squads wouldn't have the same effect.

[apalisoc_9]

I was thinking what American nations would automatically become WC contenders if Messi had their nationality.

The usual list of already contending nations comes to mind so I won't include them. But if I were to dwindle it down to nations that have good strikers but are in need of creative play the list would be:

1. Columbia (a Messi / James Rodriguez duo would be great football)
2. Mexico has a good enough defense (minus that 7-0 romp vs. Chile :lol) but would be elevated to contender if Messi joined the squad.
3. Chile (Messi would put them over the top tbh)

The point being that Ronaldo added to those squads wouldn't have the same effect.

Its like you took a shit after having a huge burrito and decided to pick that shit up from the toilet and spread it over the computer.

Nice.

[dfens]

I was thinking what American nations would automatically become WC contenders if Messi had their nationality.

The usual list of already contending nations comes to mind so I won't include them. But if I were to dwindle it down to nations that have good strikers but are in need of creative play the list would be:

1. Columbia (a Messi / James Rodriguez duo would be great football)
2. Mexico has a good enough defense (minus that 7-0 romp vs. Chile :lol) but would be elevated to contender if Messi joined the squad.
3. Chile (Messi would put them over the top tbh)

The point being that Ronaldo added to those squads wouldn't have the same effect.

columbia no, they are just too disorganized to contend for anything with or without messi.
mexico not sure, would need to see it to believe it.
chile yes, messi would fit in perfectly there
also uruguay.
italy with messi would be amazing
as would england tbh.
poland/croatia with messi would be a clear cut tier 1.

out of all contenders you put messi on spain and it's just game fucking over for everybody else tbh, just a perfect fit. Imagine that 2010 spain squad with messi :wow:wow:wow

[apalisoc_9]

columbia no, they are just too disorganized to contend for anything with or without messi.
mexico not sure, would need to see it to believe it.
chile yes, messi would fit in perfectly there
also uruguay.
italy with messi would be amazing
as would england tbh.
poland/croatia with messi would be a clear cut tier 1.

out of all contenders you put messi on spain and it's just game fucking over for everybody else tbh, just a perfect fit. Imagine that 2010 spain squad with messi :wow:wow:wow

That Spain Squad won the WC without him.

He probably would have ruined the chemistry,.

[DAF86]

That Spain Squad won the WC without him.

He probably would have ruined the chemistry,.

"Ruin chemistry". :lol If Spain had Messi in 2010 they could have just played the entire midfield and attacking line of Barcelona and instead of being the champion with the least amount of goals scored they would have owned everybody by the tune of 4-0 victories. They would have also won one or two more WC's.

[apalisoc_9]

"Ruin chemistry". :lol If Spain had Messi in 2010 they could have just played the entire midfield and attacking line of Barcelona and instead of being the champion with the least amount of goals scored they would have owned everybody by the tune of 4-0 victories. They would have also won one or two more WC's.
Yeah the guy that didnt win a cup with USA as a semifinalist would have carried Spain into two world cups.

Does your Jessi delusion ever stop?

[dfens]

"Ruin chemistry". :lol If Spain had Messi in 2010 they could have just played the entire midfield and attacking line of Barcelona and instead of being the champion with the least amount of goals scored they would have owned everybody by the tune of 4-0 victories. They would have also won one or two more WC's.

son I keep telling myself that if messi played for spain we would've seen the most dominant team in the history of football, club or country. '10 spain with messi >> any barca and any real in memory, it's like the best of all worlds, the attacking and creativity of the best barca core with the aggressiveness and physicality of real. Creativity (messi-xavi-iniesta), excellent wing play (navas, silva, mata), a wide selection of world class midfielders (bisquits - fabregas - xabi alonso), rock hard defense able to play the passing game and also dangerous at set pieces (pique - puyol - ramos), excellent goalkeepers (casillas, valdes, reina) and good enough finishing clinical finishers (villa, pedro, messi).

science fiction tbh, a true perfect team, if any team both would maximally benefit from messi and protect all his flaws the '10 spain would be THAT squad, you're 100% right about the 4-0 scorelines, there'd be "hide your kids hide your wife" type of beatings you'd tell your grandkids about :lol

[lefty]

If Messi played for Spain, they wouldn't have won shit

[Brazil]

They would have also won one or two more WC's.

:lmao sure

[140]

:lol

[dfens]

:lmao sure

son not only would they win the rings, they'd do it setting records tbh ... france and germany wouldn't even sniff them rings tbh.

[Phenomanul]

columbia no, they are just too disorganized to contend for anything with or without messi.
mexico not sure, would need to see it to believe it.
chile yes, messi would fit in perfectly there
also uruguay.
italy with messi would be amazing
as would england tbh.
poland/croatia with messi would be a clear cut tier 1.

out of all contenders you put messi on spain and it's just game fucking over for everybody else tbh, just a perfect fit. Imagine that 2010 spain squad with messi :wow:wow:wow

I didn't consider any of the European nations or Uruguay (cause I can't stand Uruguay :lol - sorry urunobili)

[Phenomanul]

Its like you took a shit after having a huge burrito and decided to pick that shit up from the toilet and spread it over the computer.

Nice.

oh pipe down...

The exercise is obviously highly subjective and speculative... it's neat in the sense of highlighting how badly the cohesion of Argentina's current talent pool has hurt Messi's rep - the cohesion and functionality simply isn't there.

The second part of the exercise clearly reveals where Messi would have fundamentally benefited other nations.

[Brazil]

son not only would they win the rings, they'd do it setting records tbh ... france and germany wouldn't even sniff them rings tbh.

not sure what you are smoking but I want some

2006: that's his first year as titular in the A team or something. You are telling me that 19 y/o Messi would have won against Peak Zidane team and dat Italy ?
2010: Spain wins w/o him + the euro before and after...
2014: Spain played like shit with aging core. In what universe he would have carried dat team to a ring ? scoring 6 times against Holland and 3 against Chile ? smh

so yeah :lmao at the :cry they would wone one or two more :cry it's like saying Hakeem is 20 times better than Duncan

[dfens]

not sure what you are smoking but I want some

2006: that's his first year as titular in the A team or something. You are telling me that 19 y/o Messi would have won against Peak Zidane team and dat Italy ?
2010: Spain wins w/o him + the euro before and after...
2014: Spain played like shit with aging core. In what universe he would have carried dat team to a ring ? scoring 6 times against Holland and 3 against Chile ? smh

so yeah :lmao at the :cry they would wone one or two more :cry it's like saying Hakeem is 20 times better than Duncan

son nobody in their right mind would discuss '06, that was a LOADED competition and even missi + spain wouldn't be clear cut winners. I wasn't even considering that tbh.

What I'm saying is that:
1) spain already has '08-'10-'12
2) '14 would've been winnable if del bosque didn't melt down after one loss in the confederations cup and went for a pivot like costa who didn't fit at all in that team and who killed their chemistry, tactics and long term strategy ... '14 was a huge blunder and it was ALL on del bosque for implementing a disfunctional system which didn't take into account spain's strengths. Just look at the games, they played a good amount of kick and run :lmao. Case in point, as it was totally obvious that '14 had wrong tactics, in '16 they went back to their normal system but their lack of a true striker hurt them a lot, and lost a tough match against italy in a horror bracket, that's life at the euros tbh :sleep

You think they panic in '14 and play kick and run with messi? :lol, of course no, they play their normal game and instead of stagnating the offense when the other team defends with 11 people they'd open them up with quick messi combinations and isos. Which team could contend against them? bra7il? netherlands? germany? none comes close.

3) With messi they also get '16, they beat croatia and they go in the easy bracket and they slap france in the final.
4) And in '18 they might be old but they're still THE top contenders. Also look at our era, except spain we didn't get monster teams (the caliber of zidane france, italy '06, brasil '02) in over a decade, which a clear staple of Germany winning the world cup, otherwise we just lack the talent to go against the GOAT squads. Who would stop a GOAT squad these days? answer: nobody. Also I speak from national experience ('02,' 06, '08, '10) when I say that playing against a GOAT squad makes you nervous and error prone, so a GOAT squad has this advantage too.

Realistically speaking it is all very reasonable to say they'd win all of 08-18 tbh.

[Brazil]

son nobody in their right mind would discuss '06, that was a LOADED competition and even missi + spain wouldn't be clear cut winners. I wasn't even considering that tbh.

What I'm saying is that:
1) spain already has '08-'10-'12
2) '14 would've been winnable if del bosque didn't melt down after one loss in the confederations cup and went for a pivot like costa who didn't fit at all in that team and who killed their chemistry, tactics and long term strategy ... '14 was a huge blunder and it was ALL on del bosque for implementing a disfunctional system which didn't take into account spain's strengths. Just look at the games, they played a good amount of kick and run :lmao. Case in point, as it was totally obvious that '14 had wrong tactics, in '16 they went back to their normal system but their lack of a true striker hurt them a lot, and lost a tough match against italy in a horror bracket, that's life at the euros tbh :sleep

You think they panic in '14 and play kick and run with messi? :lol, of course no, they play their normal game and instead of stagnating the offense when the other team defends with 11 people they'd open them up with quick messi combinations and isos. Which team could contend against them? bra7il? netherlands? germany? none comes close.

3) With messi they also get '16, they beat croatia and they go in the easy bracket and they slap france in the final.
4) And in '18 they might be old but they're still THE top contenders. Also look at our era, except spain we didn't get monster teams (the caliber of zidane france, italy '06, brasil '02) in over a decade, which a clear staple of Germany winning the world cup, otherwise we just lack the talent to go against the GOAT squads. Who would stop a GOAT squad these days? answer: nobody. Also I speak from national experience ('02,' 06, '08, '10) when I say that playing against a GOAT squad makes you nervous and error prone, so a GOAT squad has this advantage too.

Realistically speaking it is all very reasonable to say they'd win all of 08-18 tbh.

so yeah saying 2 more WCs is just stupid and one more is based on bunch of if if if and almost as stupid... fact is Spain 2014 was indeed dysfunctional, dudes were partying like crazy during confed cup in Brazil which lead Brazil to believe they were a top notch team when in fact they played against a bunch of dudes on hang over mode... Messi the semi autist dude would have changed 2014 Spain work ethic ? gtfoh tbh Spain got streamrolled by an average Netherlands and a solid but not elite Chile but yeah they would have won against Brazil, Germany or even against France, Argentina ? You would have a case if Spain was semi decent in 2014, they were just atrocious. Del Bosque did not meltdown beacuse of confederations cup bro he was aware his players just had enough and were totally desinterested by this competition like everybody except Brazilian turds...

[Brazil]

Hilarious btw to go from 2 more WCs to well not two but one maybe and a bunch of more euros... :rolleyes

Messi could not carry 2014 Argentina but would have carried Spain... oh boy

[lefty]

Hilarious btw to go from 2 more WCs to well not two but one maybe and a bunch of more euros... :rolleyes

Messi could not carry 2014 Argentina but would have carried Spain... oh boy

Spain would have lost if they had Missi

[DAF86]

Spain could have easily won in 2006 with Messi. There was no true candidate in '06, proven by the fact that Italy, a team that few had winning the WC at the beginning of the tournament, won the whole damn thing.

2006 Spain already had it's stacked tiky taka generation, all they lacked was a player with the style of Messi, even the 2006 not finished product Messi.

And in 2014 they would have been the prohibited favourite. There's no way Messi would have been elimanted on the group stage in 2014 and, once in the knock out stage, good luck trying to eliminate Spain.

Iniesta, Pique, Ramos, Busquets, Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Silva, Torres, Casillas, and many more of that Spain roster in '14 went on to keep winning Champions Leagues, or make deep runs, after that WC. :lol "aging core".

[dfens]

Spain could have easily won in 2006 with Messi. There was no true candidate in '06, proven by the fact that Italy, a team that few had winning the WC at the beginning of the tournament, won the whole damn thing.

2006 Spain already had it's stacked tiky taka generation, all they lacked was a player with the style of Messi, even the 2006 not finished product Messi.

And in 2014 they would have been the prohibited favourite. There's no way Messi would have been elimanted on the group stage in 2014 and, once in the knock out stage, good luck trying to eliminate Spain.

Iniesta, Pique, Ramos, Busquets, Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Silva, Torres, Casillas, and many more of that Spain roster in '14 went on to keep winning Champions Leagues, or make deep runs, after that WC. :lol "aging core".

son :lmao:lmao:lmao
here is their motherfucking roster tbh:
buffon - peak GOAT goalkeeper
cannavaro - GOAT defender, 32 just out of prime
nesta - GOAT defender, 30 in his prime
zambrotta - top 5 LB/RB in his prime
grosso - quality LB/RB
luca toni - UCL winner squad level striker at his peak
totti - historically good talent at his peak
del piero - historically good talent at his peak
inzaghi - historically good talent past peak
camoranesi - top winger
pirlo - GOAT midfielder
gattuso - historically good holding midfielder
and a slew of other quality role players. Don't mistake the negative calciopoli hype for reality tbh, it actually hardened the team, the majority of them were in their peak/prime and all knew that this was their one big chance to have a great world cup. I remember to this day that all the talk shows before the WC talked about how the italian NT would fail and so on and all the real knowledgeable people (beckenbauer, good broadcasters and analysts) were saying wake up, they're real contenders. When we got them in the SF we had a lot of hype in the media but many people who understood the game knew that we had a 25% chance to advance against that squad.

Spain with messi would still be inexperienced and untested in 06, and talent alone is not enough against squads like '06 france or '06 italy, so no, they would have a low % to win in 06.

[apalisoc_9]

son :lmao:lmao:lmao
here is their motherfucking roster tbh:
buffon - peak GOAT goalkeeper
cannavaro - GOAT defender, 32 just out of prime
nesta - GOAT defender, 30 in his prime
zambrotta - top 5 LB/RB in his prime
grosso - quality LB/RB
luca toni - UCL winner squad level striker at his peak
totti - historically good talent at his peak
del piero - historically good talent at his peak
inzaghi - historically good talent past peak
camoranesi - top winger
pirlo - GOAT midfielder
gattuso - historically good holding midfielder
and a slew of other quality role players. Don't mistake the negative calciopoli hype for reality tbh, it actually hardened the team, the majority of them were in their peak/prime and all knew that this was their one big chance to have a great world cup. I remember to this day that all the talk shows before the WC talked about how the italian NT would fail and so on and all the real knowledgeable people (beckenbauer, good broadcasters and analysts) were saying wake up, they're real contenders. When we got them in the SF we had a lot of hype in the media but many people who understood the game knew that we had a 25% chance to advance against that squad.

Spain with messi would still be inexperienced and untested in 06, and talent alone is not enough against squads like '06 france or '06 italy, so no, they would have a low % to win in 06.

Messi was like 17-18 in 06..

I think DAF is drunk.

[Brazil]

Spain could have easily won in 2006 with Messi. There was no true candidate in '06, proven by the fact that Italy, a team that few had winning the WC at the beginning of the tournament, won the whole damn thing.

2006 Spain already had it's stacked tiky taka generation, all they lacked was a player with the style of Messi, even the 2006 not finished product Messi.

And in 2014 they would have been the prohibited favourite. There's no way Messi would have been elimanted on the group stage in 2014 and, once in the knock out stage, good luck trying to eliminate Spain.

Iniesta, Pique, Ramos, Busquets, Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Silva, Torres, Casillas, and many more of that Spain roster in '14 went on to keep winning Champions Leagues, or make deep runs, after that WC. :lol "aging core".

so many fails in this post

Sure a 19 y/o would have been the difference in 2006 :lol when was the last time a 19 y/o made such a difference ? 58 Pele ?

You put homerism to a whole new level... worst than kobe fans

[Brazil]

worst is probably saying 2014 Spain win with Messi... this group could not past group stage... took 5 against Netherlands and 2 against Chile but but magical Messi would have transformed dat :lmao

[Brazil]

DAF: "football and bb is a team sport... well except in 2014 when Messi could have won a WC by himself with a roster who had the biggest meltdown of all time" And yet he could not win with Argentina .... hilarious :lmao

the level of dumbness on this one is off the chart

[140]

:lol damn, no mercy

[DAF86]

son :lmao:lmao:lmao
here is their motherfucking roster tbh:
buffon - peak GOAT goalkeeper
cannavaro - GOAT defender, 32 just out of prime
nesta - GOAT defender, 30 in his prime
zambrotta - top 5 LB/RB in his prime
grosso - quality LB/RB
luca toni - UCL winner squad level striker at his peak
totti - historically good talent at his peak
del piero - historically good talent at his peak
inzaghi - historically good talent past peak
camoranesi - top winger
pirlo - GOAT midfielder
gattuso - historically good holding midfielder
and a slew of other quality role players. Don't mistake the negative calciopoli hype for reality tbh, it actually hardened the team, the majority of them were in their peak/prime and all knew that this was their one big chance to have a great world cup. I remember to this day that all the talk shows before the WC talked about how the italian NT would fail and so on and all the real knowledgeable people (beckenbauer, good broadcasters and analysts) were saying wake up, they're real contenders. When we got them in the SF we had a lot of hype in the media but many people who understood the game knew that we had a 25% chance to advance against that squad.

Spain with messi would still be inexperienced and untested in 06, and talent alone is not enough against squads like '06 france or '06 italy, so no, they would have a low % to win in 06.

Not saying Italy didn't have a good team, juust that they weren't favourites and that can be easily proved, for example:

2006 World Cup Odds (Outright Win)
*Odds courtesy of BODOG Sports

Brazil 5/2
Argentina 13/2
Germany 7/1
England 7/1
Netherlands 12/1
Italy 17/2

https://www.docsports.com/2006-world-cup-odds.html

[DAF86]

DAF: "football and bb is a team sport... well except in 2014 when Messi could have won a WC by himself with a roster who had the biggest meltdown of all time" And yet he could not win with Argentina .... hilarious :lmao

the level of dumbness on this one is off the chart

If you don't understand the level of psychological advantage that comes with having the best player in the World on your side I don't know what to tell you son. It plays in the minds of both your team and the adversary. You need to look no further than 20014 Argentina that would have been eliminated in the group stage without Messi and end it almost winning it all with him. I mean, I don't know how much clearer do you want it, tbh. :lol

[Brazil]

If you don't understand the level of psychological advantage that comes with having the best player in the World on your side I don't know what to tell you son. It plays in the minds of both your team and the adversary. You need to look no further than 20014 Argentina that would have been eliminated in the group stage without Messi and end it almost winning it all with him. I mean, I don't know how much clearer do you want it, tbh. :lol

you are just saying that a team in meltdown mode (Spain2014) that took 5 in the ass in group stage would have won it all with Messi ?

that is some stupid shit... Nobody can save an entire demotivated team more concerned by partying than playing football and Messi is in particular not this kind of leader.

Just admit you had a brain fart with your Spain would have one or two more and move along

[apalisoc_9]

The defense got Argentina out of the group stage in 2014...

Nice revisionist history Thought DAF

[140]

The defense got Argentina out of the group stage in 2014...

[DAF86]

The defense got Argentina out of the group stage in 2014...

Nice revisionist history Thought DAF

The same defense that allowed a goal per game agaisnt the likes of Iran, Nigeria and Bosnia? :lol

[Brazil]

The defense got Argentina out of the group stage in 2014...

Nice revisionist history Thought DAF



not sure what is this nigg issue lately but you wonder if at one point he knows what he is talking about tbh... smh

[Brazil]

The same defense that allowed a goal per game agaisnt the likes of Iran, Nigeria and Bosnia? :lol

better than a defense who takes 5 vs.netherlands and 2 vs chile tbh

[DAF86]

you are just saying that a team in meltdown mode (Spain2014) that took 5 in the ass in group stage would have won it all with Messi ?

that is some stupid shit... Nobody can save an entire demotivated team more concerned by partying than playing football and Messi is in particular not this kind of leader.

Just admit you had a brain fart with your Spain would have one or two more and move along

Holland didn't dare to comit people forward in the semis jst to have at least three guys near Messi at all times, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have put 5 past Spain had Messi played for them.

[apalisoc_9]

better than a defense who takes 5 vs.netherlands and 2 vs chile tbh

tbh, you know someone is a fanboy when he is willing to throw 22 of his other countrymen for the sake of one person...

[DAF86]

The defense got Argentina out of the group stage in 2014...

Nice revisionist history Thought DAF

Taking out Messi's goals and assists on the group stage:

-vs Bosnia a 2-1 victory would have ended on a 0-1 loss
-vs Iran a 1-0 victory would have ended on a 0-0
-vs Nigeria a 3-2 victory would have ended on a 1-2 loss.

But I'm the one revisioning history. :lol

Brazil would have probably came in here and said something like "thinking Messi would have turned a team that got eliminted on the group stage by the likes of Bosnia, Nigeria and Iran into a WC finalist". :lmao

[Brazil]

Taking out Messi's goals and assists on the group stage:

-vs Bosnia a 2-1 victory would have ended on a 0-1 loss
-vs Iran a 1-0 victory would have ended on a 0-0
-vs Nigeria a 3-2 victory would have ended on a 1-2 loss.

But I'm the one revisioning history. :lol

Brazil (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14466) would have probably came in here and said something like "thinking Messi would have turned a team that got eliminted on the group stage by the likes of Bosnia, Nigeria and Iran into a WC finalist". :lmao

:lmao DAF "meh :cry Messi would have scored 6 by himself against Holland :cry"

Your comment about Holland not commiting forward against Argentina as it was different against Spain just show you are making up stuff. Watch the 5 goals of Holland and tell me if Messi would have changed a thing. 1 is a free kick 3 went after counter attacks exactly what they tried to do against Argentina, same organization, don't remember the 5th. Big difference is Argentina was solid on defense, Spain atrocious.

Spain was even lucky they scored only 5... nigg stop the stupidity tbh

[DAF86]

:lmao DAF "meh :cry Messi would have scored 6 by himself against Holland :cry"

Your comment about Holland not commiting forward against Argentina as it was different against Spain just show you are making up stuff. Watch the 5 goals of Holland and tell me if Messi would have changed a thing. 1 is a free kick 3 went after counter attacks exactly what they tried to do against Argentina, same organization, don't remember the 5th. Big difference is Argentina was solid on defense, Spain atrocious.

Spain was even lucky they scored only 5... nigg stop the stupidity tbh

So you are just going to pretend like you wouldn't have said something like that if Argentina had got eliminated on the group stage without Messi? Ok. :lol

[Brazil]

So you are just going to pretend like you wouldn't have said something like that if Argentina had got eliminated on the group stage without Messi? Ok. :lol

I don't even know what's your point.. wtf you are talking about ?

Now watch and tell what Messi would have changed in this ass kicking...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqG7xTT7oJ4

[DAF86]

Do you even know football? Or life? :lol

One minor change can shift the entire chain on events. "The butterfly effect", tbh. We are never going to know for sure what could have happened but don't come in here acting like if Spain had Messi they would have still needed to come back from 5 goals down. Just 1 play could have changed the entire outcome of the game, one Messi run at the 5 minutes mark and that's it, there's no more 5 goals from holland. Spain would have probably started to tiky-taka his way into the dominance of the game instead of going full attack mode and let themselves open to counters.

To me it's pretty logical to think that Spain plus the best player on the World (who happened to be on top form during the group stage of that WC) vould have made it out of the group stage, and once there it would have been pretty hard to knock them out; but like I said, it's a moot point, so I don't see the point in keep arguing about it, tbh. :lol

[Brazil]

Do you even know football? Or life? :lol

One minor change can shift the entire chain on events. "The butterfly effect", tbh. We are never going to know for sure what could have happened but don't come in here acting like if Spain had Messi they would have still needed to come back from 5 goals down. Just 1 play could have changed the entire outcome of the game, one Messi run at the 5 minutes mark and that's it, there's no more 5 goals from holland. Spain would have probably started to tiky-taka his way into the dominance of the game instead of going full attack mode and let themselves open to counters.

To me it's pretty logical to think that Spain plus the best player on the World (who happened to be on top form during the group stage of that WC) vould have made it out of the group stage, and once there it would have been pretty hard to knock them out; but like I said, it's a moot point, so I don't see the point in keep arguing about it, tbh. :lol

:lmao I stopped reading at the butterfly effect tbh

Probably also things would have been different with any other player... by butterfly effect if Spain did play with O Giroud they would have won the WC... that's how powerful is a butterfly effect tbh, also if they had played 1 hour later or 1 hour before, Spain would have beaten Netherlands 7 to 1

:lmao butterfly effect... you are making a fool of yourself at this point

take the loss and move on

[Phenomanul]

Mexico with Messi beats the Dutch in that World Cup...

[DAF86]

:lmao I stopped reading at the butterfly effect tbh

Sure you did. :lol

There was no reason to reply if you didn't know what to say, tbh. :lol

[Brazil]

Sure you did. :lol

There was no reason to reply if you didn't know what to say, tbh. :lol

Weird because I knew exactly what to stay, still waiting on how Netherlands was that different when they played against Argentina and in what they committed forward against Spain :lmao

carry on bro

:lol one or two more WCs
:lol well maybe just one
:lol well u know butterfly effect
:lol homer

[dfens]

following thread logic here sons : missi did beat netherlands by himself so of course misty + spain beats netherlands. duh.

[DAF86]

https://www.turiver.com/foros/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ole.com.ar%2Fmessi% 2FMessi-Antonella-vacaciones_OLEIMA20170612_0047_1.jpg
#winning

[apalisoc_9]

Gotta admit, messi's girl is fine...

But you can tell her ancestors were raped by Euro Devils as evidence with her clear Mixed race.

Messi's girl does look like your Bollywood teen Star though. :lol

[lefty]

Ronaldo's son has mad skills :wow

Also, Ronaldo just got twins

:wow those Alpha genes

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Ronaldo's son has mad skills :wow

Also, Ronaldo just got twins

:wow those Alpha genes

Ronaldo is gay, can't even get a woman properly pregnant.

[lefty]

Ronaldo is gay, can't even get a woman properly pregnant.
That must be why Messi Jr looks like an autistic midget

[DAF86]

That must be why Messi Jr looks like an autistic midget

Damn son, really?

[TDMVPDPOY]

ronaldo up for tax invasion lmao, 3x the amount midget was caught

[140]

That must be why Messi Jr looks like an autistic midget
:lmao

[Bynumite]

GODnaldo even upstages midget when it comes to evading taxes. Fucking GOAT.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

CR 14.7 :lol

Don't worry he'll donate to some bogus charity to deflect the bad PR.

[DAF86]

All the Madrid/Taxnaldo fans crying moral values when Messi was involved are now trying to spin this shit. :lol

[Canyonero]

CR 14.7 :lol

Don't worry he'll donate to some bogus charity to deflect the bad PR.

You mean another fake donation like during Nepal's earthquake?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You mean another fake donation like during Nepal's earthquake?

:lol exactly

[apalisoc_9]

I supported Jessi tax evasion.

Rich people are toast in Spain. The tax in rich people there is just unfair.

[DAF86]

"So unfair". They can only afford 5 mansions instead of 6. :cry

[DAF86]

https://scontent-gru2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638759_1898361530415720_772859399035648111_n.png ?oh=da09424e883ccada87d593e523d797cc&oe=5A36F424

GOD selected, via a statistical study, as the greatest player in the history of La Liga.

[140]

https://scontent-gru2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638759_1898361530415720_772859399035648111_n.png ?oh=da09424e883ccada87d593e523d797cc&oe=5A36F424

GOD selected, via a statistical study, as the greatest player in the history of La Liga.
Mid, is that you?

[Brazil]

Mid, is that you?

:lmao

no it is not, just missing some graphs

[dfens]

https://scontent-gru2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638759_1898361530415720_772859399035648111_n.png ?oh=da09424e883ccada87d593e523d797cc&oe=5A36F424

GOD selected, via a statistical study, as the greatest player in the history of La Liga.

just minutes and goals? that some sorry ass metric tbh.

[DAF86]

Mid, is that you?

I knew that was coming, tbh. :lol

Anyways, this study was done by Madrid fans so you know the result isn't adultered. Although that can explain why Raul is so close, tbh.

[DAF86]

just minutes and goals? that some sorry ass metric tbh.

If it accounted for titles and assists the difference would be even bigger in favour of GOD, tbh.

[Phenomanul]

https://scontent-gru2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638759_1898361530415720_772859399035648111_n.png ?oh=da09424e883ccada87d593e523d797cc&oe=5A36F424

GOD selected, via a statistical study, as the greatest player in the history of La Liga.

Hugo Sanchez was 15th on that list... cool.

[Phenomanul]

Also Xavi Hernandez landed at 49th, Puyol at 195 and Iniesta at 229...

i.e. carried... (much to Ronaldo fans' ire)

[Brazil]

a list with Iniesta at 229 is uterly BS

so yeah

:lmao Mid

[DAF86]

a list with Iniesta at 229 is uterly BS

so yeah

:lmao Mid

Iniesta missed like half of the games in the championships that Barcelona won. :lol

[dfens]

Iniesta missed like half of the games in the championships that Barcelona won. :lol

son iniesta is a world champ and world cup winning goal scorer, show some respect tbh.
and if that list would have any value you'd have a xavi picture at the top. He won more then all people in la liga and was THE key to barcelona transitioning into that style of play and winning with it. TBH. You take xavi away and barca won't touch half these titles. You take messi away and put another star in there and they fare significantly worse but not worse then without xavi. Tactically he was THE key for barca, 2 euros, 1 world cup, etc, the most important piece imo, not the most talented (obviously messi) but the piece whose absence was felt most. Look at barca right now, all that talent and no UCL contention and no championship.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Barca are still struggling to replace Xavi to this day.

[DAF86]

son iniesta is a world champ and world cup winning goal scorer, show some respect tbh.

So what does that have to do with La Liga and the fact that Iniesta misses 1 of every 2 games?


and if that list would have any value you'd have a xavi picture at the top. He won more then all people in la liga and was THE key to barcelona transitioning into that style of play and winning with it. TBH. You take xavi away and barca won't touch half these titles. You take messi away and put another star in there and they fare significantly worse but not worse then without xavi. Tactically he was THE key for barca, 2 euros, 1 world cup, etc, the most important piece imo, not the most talented (obviously messi) but the piece whose absence was felt most. Look at barca right now, all that talent and no UCL contention and no championship.

Barcelona won their last couple of la Ligas and their last UCL without Xavi (cue in the spinning response of :cry that lockerroom leadership when he was a TOSB staying on the bench :cry).

[dfens]

So what does that have to do with La Liga and the fact that Iniesta misses 1 of every 2 games?



Barcelona won their last couple of la Ligas and their last UCL without Xavi (cue in the spinning response of :cry that lockerroom leadership when he was a TOSB staying on the bench :cry).

while Penaldo won more with less superstar talent... solid take.

[DAF86]

while Penaldo won more with less superstar talent... solid take.

"Less superstar talent". :lol Madrid has been for years the most expensive team in the World. Their bench alone would make the semis of the CL.

[Brazil]

DAF86 :lmao

this dude nowadays... now Iniesta is some kind of scrub... oh boy... retardness has no limit

[Brazil]

He is the Spanish player with the most titles with Xavi... He played "just" 630 games for Barça

:cry but statistical study :cry

go explain to a real Barça fan not a fan player like DAF that Iniesta is 229 on a list of the greatest player of the liga, they will just laugh at you

[dfens]

He is the Spanish player with the most titles with Xavi... He played "just" 630 games for Barça

:cry but statistical study :cry

go explain to a real Barça fan not a fan player like DAF that Iniesta is 229 on a list of the greatest player of the liga, they will just laugh at you

damn son :wow my nigga DAF86 getting bent per par :lol

[140]

He is the Spanish player with the most titles with Xavi... He played "just" 630 games for Barça

:cry but statistical study :cry

go explain to a real Barça fan not a fan player like DAF that Iniesta is 229 on a list of the greatest player of the liga, they will just laugh at you
:wow

damn son :wow my nigga DAF86 getting bent per par :lol
:lol

[lefty]

:lol Daf Punked

"One More Time"

[Canyonero]

Yeah that list is pretty gay tbh. To only consider "hard" facts like goals and titles is pretty gay. Not Penaldo kind of gay but still.

Still Messi is La Liga GOAT.

[dfens]

:lol Daf Punked

"One More Time"

:lmao:lmao

[140]

:lol Daf Punked

"One More Time"
omg :lmao:lmao:lmao

[DAF86]

Folks getting rattled at an innocuous list. :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

raul 2nd on that list? overrated kent who didn't win shit outside of spain competitions and national team...

coat rided nt when spain implemented tic tac toe bullshit from barca/valencia

[dfens]

Folks getting rattled at an innocuous list. :lol

can't even deflect properly :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DAF86]

can't even deflect properly :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

In which way am I deflecting? What do I even need to deflect? :lol

[dfens]

In which way am I deflecting? What do I even need to deflect? :lol

you're funny tbh :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If you removed Ronaldo from Real Madrid you still have a world class team. Can't say the same for Barca without Messi right now and that is sad.

[lefty]

:lol Misty asking Barça to get Di Maria

[Amuseddaysleeper]

:lol Misty asking Barça to get Di Maria

Love Messi...but he'd make for a terrible manager :lol

[DAF86]

:lol Misty asking Barça to get Di Maria

Doubt that is true, tbh. Di María sucks.

[dfens]

If you removed Ronaldo from Real Madrid you still have a world class team. Can't say the same for Barca without Messi right now and that is sad.

you'd still have a team with suarez, pique, iniesta, rakitic, turan, ter stegen, umtiti, sergi roberto, jordi alba, vermalen, cillesen and denis suarez ... barca's problem isn't necessarily talent but depth and 1-2 good pieces at key locations. the bolded players are really world class tbh. if you cut penaldo and mesty from each team real has a 2-3 player advatange in high quality players..

[DAF86]

you'd still have a team with suarez, pique, iniesta, rakitic, turan, ter stegen, umtiti, sergi roberto, jordi alba, vermalen, cillesen and denis suarez ... barca's problem isn't necessarily talent but depth and 1-2 good pieces at key locations. the bolded players are really world class tbh. if you cut penaldo and mesty from each team real has a 2-3 player advatange in high quality players..

Iniesta is done. Anyone that still thinks Iniesta is the player he once was is clearly not paying attention.

Rakitic never was World class. He isn't even a guaranteed starter in Barca, at least last season he wasn't.

Barcelona needs a major overhaul. They need, at the very least, a right back, two midifielders and a left wing.

[Brazil]

:cry GOD has not enough help :cry

hilarious shit tbh

what other team in the world has 2 of the top 5 best players in activity ? smh...

[140]

:cry GOD has not enough help :cry

hilarious shit tbh

what other team in the world has 2 of the top 5 best players in activity ? smh...
It's true though, don't you remember all that help DieGOAT had on those Napoli teams? :lol

[lefty]

It's true though, don't you remember all that help DieGOAT had on those Napoli teams? :lol

DAF : those Napoli teams were STACKED

[Amuseddaysleeper]

:cry GOD has not enough help :cry

hilarious shit tbh

what other team in the world has 2 of the top 5 best players in activity ? smh...

Don't be so ignorant Brazil, you're better than that. Barcelona is very unbalanced and everyone in the world can see that their midfield is shit. Iniesta is too old, Rakitic is declining by the week and they had to play Sergi Roberto out of position all of last season. Take Messi out of the squad and Barca struggles for a CL spot most likely finishing fourth. Only in this forum does everyone hate Messi and come up with the most ridiculous ways to downplay anything he does.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Iniesta is done. Anyone that still thinks Iniesta is the player he once was is clearly not paying attention.

Rakitic never was World class. He isn't even a guaranteed starter in Barca, at least last season he wasn't.

Barcelona needs a major overhaul. They need, at the very least, a right back, two midifielders and a left wing.

I think Semedo is going to be awesome. This board has gotten some nice signings for the backline with Umtiti, Semedo, and Mina (signed and comes over in January). It's midfield onward that they've really struggled after buying Suarez.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

you'd still have a team with suarez, pique, iniesta, rakitic, turan, ter stegen, umtiti, sergi roberto, jordi alba, vermalen, cillesen and denis suarez ... barca's problem isn't necessarily talent but depth and 1-2 good pieces at key locations. the bolded players are really world class tbh. if you cut penaldo and mesty from each team real has a 2-3 player advatange in high quality players..

How many players from Barca would start for Madrid right now? Messi, Suarez, maybe Pique and that's it. Also Madrid's bench is light years ahead of Barca's. Asensio and Isco would be top 6 players on Barca immediately yet they can't even get consistent minutes in Madrid's starting XI. This is the greatest discrepancy in talent between the two teams since Figo left.

[dfens]

Don't be so ignorant Brazil, you're better than that. Barcelona is very unbalanced and everyone in the world can see that their midfield is shit. Iniesta is too old, Rakitic is declining by the week and they had to play Sergi Roberto out of position all of last season. Take Messi out of the squad and Barca struggles for a CL spot most likely finishing fourth. Only in this forum does everyone hate Messi and come up with the most ridiculous ways to downplay anything he does.

son wtf tbh, I wouldn't even troll with that :lol

everybody loves misty son, best player in the world tbh.

[dfens]

How many players from Barca would start for Madrid right now? Messi, Suarez, maybe Pique and that's it. Also Madrid's bench is light years ahead of Barca's. Asensio and Isco would be top 6 players on Barca immediately yet they can't even get consistent minutes in Madrid's starting XI. This is the greatest discrepancy in talent between the two teams since Figo left.

umtiti would get minutes, he's a great defender.
ter stegen is the better goal keeper and he'd start. if it weren't for neuer people would respect stegen more.
bisquits would make it quite often imo. zidane likes smart players tbh and biscuits is a smart but faggy player.
iniesta would 100% get minutes under zidane, he might be declining but still he's iniesta.
jordi alba would get some burn.
rakitic would also get some run, he's exposed right now and people are talking shit about a decline but the barca system isn't making too much sense so all their midfielders are in the shit constantly with attack and defense not working in unison.

it's not as bad as it looks talent wise. still you are right about there being a discrepancy, but barca are just cheap tbh, refusing to invest money while they're getting $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from misty/neymar apparel and coverage and the arab sponsors. Lmao having all that money and just sitting on it, cheap faggots tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

umtiti would get minutes, he's a great defender.
ter stegen is the better goal keeper and he'd start. if it weren't for neuer people would respect stegen more.
bisquits would make it quite often imo. zidane likes smart players tbh and biscuits is a smart but faggy player.
iniesta would 100% get minutes under zidane, he might be declining but still he's iniesta.
jordi alba would get some burn.
rakitic would also get some run, he's exposed right now and people are talking shit about a decline but the barca system isn't making too much sense so all their midfielders are in the shit constantly with attack and defense not working in unison.

it's not as bad as it looks talent wise. still you are right about there being a discrepancy, but barca are just cheap tbh, refusing to invest money while they're getting $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from misty/neymar apparel and coverage and the arab sponsors. Lmao having all that money and just sitting on it, cheap faggots tbh.

But dfens, I'm not talking about simply getting minutes here or there as Zidane to his credit rotates very well throughought the season. I'm talking about how many players on Barca would be nailed in Madrid's starting 11. You'd struggle to find 3 players at the absolute most.

I am so frustrated with this board. Barca will end up overpaying for Coutinho and Dembele but how can they be taken seriously when they offer a measly 82 million for Coutinho and in order for Liverpool to get the bonus add ons of 36 million Coutinho has to win Ballon D'or on top of Barca winning UCL.

They apparently haven't even spoken with Dortmund in 11 days (!!). Meanwhile Barca's director says "Both deals are close" while Dortmund and Klopp are perplexed as to what the hell they are talking.

I wish Messi all the best in Man City next summer, tbh.

[dfens]

But dfens, I'm not talking about simply getting minutes here or there as Zidane to his credit rotates very well throughought the season. I'm talking about how many players on Barca would be nailed in Madrid's starting 11. You'd struggle to find 3 players at the absolute most.

I am so frustrated with this board. Barca will end up overpaying for Coutinho and Dembele but how can they be taken seriously when they offer a measly 82 million for Coutinho and in order for Liverpool to get the bonus add ons of 36 million Coutinho has to win Ballon D'or on top of Barca winning UCL.

They apparently haven't even spoken with Dortmund in 11 days (!!). Meanwhile Barca's director says "Both deals are close" while Dortmund and Klopp are perplexed as to what the hell they are talking.

I wish Messi all the best in Man City next summer, tbh.

well, that's a tough one as even at real not many people are 100% nailed in the starting 11, besides ronaldo / ramos / marcelo / kroos / modric / goal keeper they had quite a large variation of formations last year. messi / pique / suarez / umtiti would all be nailed in the starting lineup imo. So imo it's not about being top heavy talent wise but having depth.

Not sure about coutinho tbh.

If I were that board I'd use that money on :
Key signings pool : koke / dyabala / thiago alcantara / keita (leipzig) / matuidi / guerreiro.
Depth: pedro (don't know how he left but all barca people love their barca), payet, moutinho, goretzka, de sciglio.

if they used half of that neymar money on some of these picks they'd be in great shape tbh. E.g. bolded picks are together at about that value and they'd be quality long term investments too. And this is the market value not the barcelona discount tbh..

[DAF86]

Navas < Ter Stegen
Carvajal > whoever is suppossed to be Barca's right back
Varane > Piqué
Ramos > Umtiti
Marcelo > Alba
Casemiro > Busquets
Kroos > whoever is suppossed to be Barca's right midfielder
Modric > Iniesta
Isco > whoever is suppossed to be Barca's third forward
Benzema < Suarez
Sidenaldo < Messi

Madrid has a pretty strong advatange right now. And I didn't even mention the bench.

[dfens]

Navas < Ter Stegen
Carvajal > whoever is suppossed to be Barca's right back
Varane > Piqué flat out no
Ramos > Umtiti
Marcelo > Alba
Casemiro > Busquets strong no, biscuits is a far more versatile player, just not used properly. Casemiro is very limited compared to biscuits.
Kroos > whoever is suppossed to be Barca's right midfielder
Modric > Iniesta close one
Isco > whoever is suppossed to be Barca's third forward
Benzema < Suarez
Sidenaldo < Messi

Madrid has a pretty strong advatange right now. And I didn't even mention the bench.

that's about it. still the greatest difference is
zidane >>> valverde
Barca need a real coach tbh.

[lefty]

Lol Navas shits on Ter Stegen tbh

[Canyonero]

Lol Navas shits on Ter Stegen tbh

Navas is shit*

[dfens]

Lol Navas shits on Ter Stegen tbh

disagree tbh. ter stegen has better fundamentals while navas has quicker reactions. Fundamentals >> reactions, especially in today's game. Reactions give you beautiful saves but fundamentals give you clean sheets, no dumb mistakes and minimize overall risk. A goal keeper's role in today's game is not only to make saves but to act as the last man of defense, so risk minimization is critical.
Ter stegen also has a weaker defense in front of him and is permanently overshadowed by Neuer, so this makes him look worse than he is.
Ter stegen also has a bit of a size advantage and a great passing game, the latter being critical in today's game. I also want to point out that barcelona's aerial defense is shit so he is quite exposed out there and I hear some people saying he doesn't dominate in the air that much but think about the level of protection he is (not) receiving from his team.

Also a very underrated aspect is that imo ter stegen is more composed, a top quality for GKs.

[dfens]

sons I don't follow the news very closely, what is the reason for Barcelona standing pat this summer? just puzzling tbh.

[Canyonero]

sons I don't follow the news very closely, what is the reason for Barcelona standing pat this summer? just puzzling tbh.

Incompetent front office imo.

[lefty]

Incompetent front office imo.
Pretty much this tbh

[dfens]

Incompetent front office imo.

Pretty much this tbh
how can such incompetence be in charge of barca?, don't they have investors looking to make money from the club?
I mean I see it as this as barca getting a year older on an already exhausted core, losing neymar, getting injured, lacking depth, real being on top and smacking them 5-1 ... that's one step too close to falling off a cliff tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

how can such incompetence be in charge of barca?, don't they have investors looking to make money from the club?
I mean I see it as this as barca getting a year older on an already exhausted core, losing neymar, getting injured, lacking depth, real being on top and smacking them 5-1 ... that's one step too close to falling off a cliff tbh.

I think Bartemou does not want to spend all 220M. I think they were completely blindsided by Neymar leaving and him leaving so late in the transfer window (he was holding out for that loyalty business that kicks in July 31st) made for this mad rush to sign players with the window closing. Believe it or not they wanted to buy just one player and use the rest of the 220M on "improvements for the stadium".

Having said that, you can tell how clueless management is when they BLAME Xavi and Iniesta for not letting the youth from La Masia come into the team because those players were too good to usurp. Barca stood pat last summer (2016) because they won a double, and were "unlucky" to lose to Atletico according to management which is BS.

As a matter of fact, many fans feel the treble may have been a curse has it simply put a band aid on the cracks these team had. This board is also cheap as fuck, even right now they have the opportunity to sign Seri from Nice, who would be an excellent controller in midfield that Barca need and Nice say "40 million, and he's yours" and Barca come with a 30M offer :lol WTF, same with Coutinho. They offer a paltry 82M for Coutinho, but offer 40M in bonuses only if Coutinho wins ballon d'or and UCL. It's insulting to other teams and Barca has been seen as an absolute joke this transfer window.

This management is worse than the Knicks, even Neymar threw them under a bus yesterday :lol

[Canyonero]

Antonela is pregnant again, fifth child incoming. Penaldo, Iker, Thiago, the last one I don't know the name and now this.

[Phenomanul]

Antonela is pregnant again, fifth child incoming. Penaldo, Iker, Thiago, the last one I don't know the name and now this.

He certainly isn't missing that goal...

[Canyonero]

He certainly isn't missing that goal...

fwiw after scoring twice that goal must be pretty wide open now.

[Phenomanul]

fwiw after scoring twice that goal must be pretty wide open now.

Technically, that would happen at the moment the firstborn came through... (assuming natural delivery ofc)... :lol

[dfens]

a truly prolific midget tbh :lol

[DAF86]

All boys, like a true alpha.

[Canyonero]

All boys, like a true alpha.

And all made dick to pussy.

[DAF86]

Messi being carried by the likes of Delofeu and Paco Alcacer.

[TheGreatYacht]

Missi showing up against the Alaves of the world, per par

:lmao also missed a PK. Statpad fail

[Bynumite]

Thank god la liga is back.

[Canyonero]

https://k60.kn3.net/taringa/6/7/3/7/C/0/vagonettas/645.gif

[hater]

:lmao might have to play in Syria for a spot in the WC :lmao

[Canyonero]

:lmao might have to play in Syria for a spot in the WC :lmao

No, that's CONCACAF. He might have to play in NZ.

[lefty]

https://k60.kn3.net/taringa/6/7/3/7/C/0/vagonettas/645.gif

:lol wtf

[DAF86]

Thank you God.

[DAF86]

All the haters with their champagne ready to uncork. Back to the fridge sons. :lol

[DAF86]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/716c2693f17725b3357e255cf8a533e7.jpg

[DAF86]

GOD now the all-time leader in goals in the qualifiers.

[urunobili]

GOD now the all-time leader in goals in the qualifiers.

Shared with Suarez

[DAF86]

Shared with Suarez

According to this

https://www.google.com.ar/amp/www.ambito.com/amp/899972-pulveriza-todos-los-records-messi-es-el-maximo-goleador-de-las-eliminatorias-sudamericanas

Messi has 21 and Suarez 19.

[DAF86]

"Messi doesn't owe Argentina a World Cup. Football owes Messi a World Cup".

Sampaoli.

[apalisoc_9]

According to this

https://www.google.com.ar/amp/www.ambito.com/amp/899972-pulveriza-todos-los-records-messi-es-el-maximo-goleador-de-las-eliminatorias-sudamericanas

Messi has 21 and Suarez 19.

Suares scored twice against Bolivia to reach 21.

[dfens]

midget showed up tbh :toast

[urunobili]

According to this

https://www.google.com.ar/amp/www.ambito.com/amp/899972-pulveriza-todos-los-records-messi-es-el-maximo-goleador-de-las-eliminatorias-sudamericanas

Messi has 21 and Suarez 19.
nope, Suarez has also 21. check your sources.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificaci%C3%B3n_de_Conmebol_para_la_Copa_Mundia l_de_F%C3%BAtbol#Tabla_hist.C3.B3rica_de_goleadore s

[urunobili]

And he is second to Suarez as Suarez did it in one less game...

[Amuseddaysleeper]

But Suarez has players who know how to play football

[DAF86]

nope, Suarez has also 21. check your sources.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificaci%C3%B3n_de_Conmebol_para_la_Copa_Mundia l_de_F%C3%BAtbol#Tabla_hist.C3.B3rica_de_goleadore s

That was previous to Suárez scoring his brace.

[DAF86]

https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25521/255218190c182afbe8d2fe6128bfd2e8ac16bc30.png

[lefty]

Where are thr WC and CA mentions ?

[dfens]

https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25521/255218190c182afbe8d2fe6128bfd2e8ac16bc30.png

Totales en los Mundiales shows a huge disparity tbh..

[DAF86]

Totales en los Mundiales shows a huge disparity tbh..

Not really, 3 less goals in 6 less games. Chances are Messi will surpass that by the next WC, and he would probably still have one more WC after that to keep adding to the tally.

BTW, those "assists" numbers from Messi are fucked up. It says that in 2014 Messi didn't have an assist but what about this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PbrDfCJKK4

[DAF86]

Not to mention that this should count as an assist too, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD9tQw_xA5c

[140]

"Messi doesn't owe Argentina a World Cup. Football owes Messi a World Cup".

Sampaoli.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard :lol if this midget wants a WC he better stop choking when it counts and earn it like everyone else did. Last game was a good start for him tbh

[dfens]

Not really, 3 less goals in 6 less games. Chances are Messi will surpass that by the next WC, and he would probably still have one more WC after that to keep adding to the tally.

BTW, those "assists" numbers from Messi are fucked up. It says that in 2014 Messi didn't have an assist but what about this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PbrDfCJKK4

son we aren't talking in maybes here, we both know maradona created everything in that argentina team and we can cherrypick assists easily for him too.

At the end of the day diego has:
- 3 more goals
- 5 more assists
- a ring (besides a finals finish)
- iconic moments against very strong opposition.

Now I like midget and truly appreciate him showing up like a man vs Ecuador but he's got a LOT of work to do to catch up maradona tbh.

[DAF86]

son we aren't talking in maybes here, we both know maradona created everything in that argentina team and we can cherrypick assists easily for him too.

At the end of the day diego has:
- 3 more goals
- 5 more assists
- a ring (besides a finals finish)
- iconic moments against very strong opposition.

Now I like midget and truly appreciate him showing up like a man vs Ecuador but he's got a LOT of work to do to catch up maradona tbh.

Cherrypick assists? :lol: I'm showing you a clear cut assist thay wasn't counted, tbh. :lol

[dfens]

Cherrypick assists? :lol: I'm showing you a clear cut assist thay wasn't counted, tbh. :lol

:lol son these were present 25 years ago too, that was the point .. your video and take are true on misty.

[DAF86]

:lol son these were present 25 years ago too, that was the point .. your video and take are true on misty.

Serious question son? Do you have problems?

[dfens]

Serious question son? Do you have problems?

no my nigga, I just get bored at work tbh :lol

[Canyonero]

Antonella pregnant and Alphanel will have his fifth child :wow

Congrats :toast

[DAF86]

Damn, dude wants to form his own starting eleven. :lol Maybe with 11 Messis we can actually win a final, tbh.

[Brazil]

Now I like midget and truly appreciate him showing up like a man vs Ecuador

:lol

[Canyonero]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOcSf0tW0AUd2pV.jpg:large

What do you think sons?

[DAF86]

:lol The crying of Sidenaldo fans would be hilarious, but I doubt it sons.

Anyways, the Golden ball is given for the calendar year, not the 16/17 season; and Messi has been better than Tapnaldo this year.

[Darth_Pelican]

http://www.espn.com/soccer/real-madrid/story/3300667/cristiano-ronaldo-wins-fifth-ballon-dor-to-pull-level-with-lionel-messi

[Canyonero]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOcSf0tW0AUd2pV.jpg:large

What do you think sons?

:lol today's football leaks

[Bynumite]

:lol The crying of Sidenaldo fans would be hilarious, but I doubt it sons.

Anyways, the Golden ball is given for the calendar year, not the 16/17 season; and Messi has been better than Tapnaldo this year.

:lmao

Put the drink down FAP. GOATnaldo's legendary CL run alone is enough to justify the award and better than anything midget has ever done in his career.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5OHSz376TM :worthy:

[lefty]

:lol

[Hoops Czar]

http://www.espn.com/soccer/real-madrid/story/3301942/cristiano-ronaldo-says-i-am-the-best-player-in-history-upon-fifth-ballon-dor

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) "Maradona's left ball > Tapnaldo"

[DAF86]

http://www.espn.com/soccer/real-madrid/story/3301942/cristiano-ronaldo-says-i-am-the-best-player-in-history-upon-fifth-ballon-dor

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) "Maradona's left ball > Tapnaldo"

:lmao:lmao:lmao

This dude is delusional. :lol

[DAF86]

lol just read the entire thing. It's worst than I could ever imagine. This guy beats every egomaniac duche in history by a wide ass margin. :lol

[Bynumite]

lol just read the entire thing. It's worst than I could ever imagine. This guy beats every egomaniac duche in history by a wide ass margin. :lol

:cry "But my midget can dribble past 3 players" :cry

:lmao



I like Kobe but he's not my GOAT just because he can shoot pretty fadeaways and his game is aesthetically pleasing :lol

When you look strictly at his all time stats and his team and individual accolades, the argument can easily be made in favor of Ronaldo.

His dominance and longevity are almost unrivalled but i don't expect you to understand FAP :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Ronaldo is finished

[DAF86]

:cry "But my midget can dribble past 3 players" :cry

:lmao



I like Kobe but he's not my GOAT just because he can shoot pretty fadeaways and his game is aesthetically pleasing :lol

When you look strictly at his all time stats and his team and individual accolades, the argument can easily be made in favor of Ronaldo.

His dominance and longevity are almost unrivalled but i don't expect you to understand FAP :lol

The fuck? :lol

Messi is two years younger and he has been around almost as long as Tapnaldo, but doing it way better. :lol

What's your point son? That Ronaldo is better than Messi? Just come clean son.

[Bynumite]

Ronaldo is finished

Says midgetfan a few days after Ronaldo became the 1st player to score in every CL gròup stage match with 9 goals :lmao

Friendly word of advice, stop watching midget stat pad against Girona and Eibar :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Says midgetfan a few days after Ronaldo became the 1st player to score in every CL gròup stage match with 9 goals :lmao

Friendly word of advice, stop watching midget stat pad against Girona and Eibar :lol

:lmao half his goals were against APOEL, GTFO

hahahaha Ronaldo has one of the worst conversion rates in Europe, looks like shit unless his teammates make him look good.

He's the most insecure athlete in history.

[Bynumite]

The fuck? :lol

Messi is two years younger and he has been around almost as long as Tapnaldo, but doing it way better. :lol

What's your point son? That Ronaldo is better than Messi? Just come clean son.

"Doing it way better" :lmao

Man lie, numbers don't. Midget's CL numbers are not close to Ronaldo's, especially in the knockout stage against the best Europe has to offer, not against Las Palmas and Alaves :lol Also the man holds every CL individual record imaginable in the goal scoring department.

Whether you think Ronaldo is better than midget or vice-versa, you can't go wrong either way. I'm just calling out delusional midgetfans who think Ronaldo doesn't have a legit case.

[DAF86]

"Doing it way better" :lmao

Man lie, numbers don't. Midget's CL numbers are not close to Ronaldo's, especially in the knockout stage against the best Europe has to offer, not against Las Palmas and Alaves :lol Also the man holds every CL individual record imaginable in the goal scoring department.

Whether you think Ronaldo is better than midget or vice-versa, you can't go wrong either way. I'm just calling out delusional midgetfans who think Ronaldo doesn't have a legit case.

So, you can't say it? That says it all. Pun intended, tbh. :lol

I will say it: Messi >>> Ronaldo.

[Bynumite]

So, you can't say it? That says it all. Pun intended, tbh. :lol

I will say it: Messi >>> Ronaldo.

If i'm playing Getafe i want midget on my team. Anywhere else, it's GOATnaldo.

[DAF86]

If i'm playing Getafe i want midget on my team. Anywhere else, it's GOATnaldo.

Or El Clasico. The all-time leader in goals and assists is good there too. Or finals. The all-time scoring leader in finals is good at that too, tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

"Doing it way better" :lmao

Man lie, numbers don't. Midget's CL numbers are not close to Ronaldo's, especially in the knockout stage against the best Europe has to offer, not against Las Palmas and Alaves :lol Also the man holds every CL individual record imaginable in the goal scoring department.

Whether you think Ronaldo is better than midget or vice-versa, you can't go wrong either way. I'm just calling out delusional midgetfans who think Ronaldo doesn't have a legit case.

Ronaldo doesn't have a case at all, don't be an idiot, literally anyone who has been watching football for more than a week knows Messi is better and it's not even close. Ronaldo has the worst conversion rate in all of Europe :lmao

[Bynumite]

:lmao half his goals were against APOEL, GTFO

hahahaha Ronaldo has one of the worst conversion rates in Europe, looks like shit unless his teammates make him look good.

He's the most insecure athlete in history.

I don't think bad group stage teams is a topic midgetfan wants to discuss :lol Midget's numbers go down hill in the CL knockout stage. Your boy is the king of stat padding in the group stage against awful teams.


Champions League goals:

Total - Group Stage - Knockout Stage

Ronaldo - 114 - 60 - 54
Messi - 97 - 60 - 37


Also, you're using NBA talking points in football :lol No one gives a fuck about FG% in football, especially when the silverware keeps coming in.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I don't think bad group stage teams is a topic midgetfan wants to discuss :lol Midget's numbers go down hill in the CL knockout stage. Your boy is the king of stat padding in the group stage against awful teams.


Champions League goals:

Total - Group Stage - Knockout Stage

Ronaldo - 114 - 60 - 54
Messi - 97 - 60 - 37


Also, you're using NBA talking points in football :lol No one gives a fuck about FG% in football, especially when the silverware keeps coming in.

Ronaldo's played a lot more CL games than Messi, he's been around longer, Messi will overtake him and he's already got more silverware.

[Hoops Czar]

So, you can't say it? That says it all. Pun intended, tbh. :lol

I will say it: Messi >>> Ronaldo.

[Hoops Czar]

If i'm playing Getafe i want midget on my team. Anywhere else, it's GOATnaldo.
Or Athletic Bilbao, Girona, Tottenham, Athletico Madrid and Betis.