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CosmicCowboy
05-03-2005, 08:41 AM
thomas george
Talk not cheap for Spurs
By Thomas George
Denver Post Staff Columnist

They read, they watch, they listen. The San Antonio Spurs are alert. Aware. Informed.

The Spurs heard the Nuggets diss Manu Ginobili. They caught it when the Nuggets said they would pack the paint and shut down, maybe knock down, driving Spurs. They understood what the Nuggets meant when they said they had not yet played their best hoops, and if not for the officiating in Game 3 might have entered Game 4 on Monday night with the series lead.

They yawned.

Tim Duncan said something about how, with the yapping, the Nuggets needed to give themselves some hype.

Tony Parker said it best. Pro athletes are often less forthcoming when admitting how much attention they pay to newspapers, radio and TV, of absorbing what emanates from the opposing locker room.

Parker had no shame.

"You pay attention," he said. "You hear a little bit of it. You know what they are saying. You know what they are thinking. You don't let it bother you. You keep doing your thing. It's nice to be in the know. But you still make things your way."

And there it is - few mind games can be won against the firmly convinced, the rock-solid assured.

The Spurs present five players on their roster who have won at least two NBA championships.

No Nugget has won one.

The Spurs for three straight games in this series have displayed their ability to more consistently rebound, shoot, defend and finish. It is the finish part that gives them a 3-1 series lead after slaying the Nuggets 126-115 in overtime at the Pepsi Center.

After edging the Nuggets in smarts, execution and confidence one more time.

This was easily the best-played game of the series, and the Spurs won it in a tingling environment that they handled with cool. They are a cool team, period, with Duncan setting the standard with his even, measured approach.

Here was a perfect example:

In the final 3.8 seconds of the first half, the Spurs allowed Earl Boykins to dribble the length of the floor and Duncan, standing with arms stretched, allowed him to scoop and score from underneath the basket. That cut the Spurs' lead to 57-51. The quiet smirk, the twisted lip that Duncan offered afterward was as calm as it was cool.

He simply walked off the floor.

And then he returned and helped make sure the Spurs won the third quarter. And helped make sure they were winners by contributing a game-high 39 points and composed leadership.

The Nuggets had only half this season to build the success and temperament and confidence of their current crew. The Spurs have been at it for seven seasons with Duncan, tested and true.

In these past three playoff games, that difference has showed.

Before the tip, Nuggets guard Andre Miller was talking about his team's approach.

"Our attitude is good," he said. "We're pretty positive. We've got veterans on our team. We've got our heads up. We can compete with this team. We've had our ups and downs in the series. They've had theirs."

But the Spurs exude valor in dealing with those ups and downs and then finish what they start. That trait comes with time, with experience, with a unit getting the same message from its franchise and coach in October that it receives in May. That, of course, did not happen for the Nuggets, with three head coaches and a jumbled roster this season.

San Antonio played four quarters and the overtime as if it knew the Nuggets would crack just enough. The Spurs exhibited respect for the Nuggets but more than that, a gripping, powerful ability to embrace pressure, to execute with flair in the middle of it.

It will not, but we can hope this series reaches seven games. The longer the Nuggets are exposed to the Spurs, the longer they sniff 'em and bump and roll with this bunch, the more they will grow.

Seasoning comes in just these types of postseason games in hot, packed arenas under heavy glare. Even in such tough losses, the Nuggets should gain strength.

They are rubbing elbows with the type of stability, finishers, class and cool that they, too, want to become.

It is a chic, sophisticated neighborhood. The Nuggets, heads spinning, are learning that.

Staff writer Thomas George can be reached at 303-820-1994 or [email protected].

CosmicCowboy
05-03-2005, 08:49 AM
Nuggets in deep hole

Spurs need overtime, Duncan's 39 points to take 3-1 advantage in playoff series

By Adam Thompson
Denver Post Staff Writer

Post / Hyoung Chang
Spurs forward Tim Duncan tries to muscle his way past Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin in the first quarter Monday night.

If subsequent rounds get any tougher for San Antonio than its slugfest with Denver on Monday night, the Spurs are going to be one tired team if they make it to the NBA Finals.

At least their chances of advancing look strong after their 126-115 punch-drunk overtime victory over the Nuggets in Game 4 of the first-round playoff series at the Pepsi Center.

Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony has the biggest playoff game of his young career with 28 points but thought he could have scored more.

"We didn't get me the ball," Anthony said. "I don't want to sound selfish, but I had something going and we got away from it. I think San Antonio stuck to their game plan. Every time down the court, they went to their go-to guy.":lol

That would be all-pro Tim Duncan, who scored 39 points.

Ahead 3-1 in the series, the Spurs are now fully in control. They can close out Denver, led in Game 4 by Earl Boykins' 32 points, on Wednesday in Game 5 in San Antonio - and if that doesn't work, they'll have two more chances.

About Game 5 in San Antonio, Anthony said: "We're going to go out fighting. We've got to go to San Antonio with the mentality we can go down there and get a game."

Said coach George Karl: "We're in the NCAA Tournament now. ... Single elimination. Statistics and history are probably against us, but basketball has strange twists."

Spurs guard Tony Parker took over in overtime, scoring nine consecutive points as San Antonio pulled away after a tight fourth quarter.

"We didn't have enough gas or enough confidence after they took the big lead in overtime," Karl said.
In overtime, the Spurs jumped out to a 113-107 lead by scoring the first six points.

Denver got within 113-109 on Anthony's tip but would get no closer. Parker was in the midst of his run, which he capped with a 3-point shot from the top of the key for a nine-point lead, 118-109.

While Parker was the star in overtime, it was all Duncan for much of regulation. In addition to his 39 points, he had 14 rebounds and showed his MVP form when the Spurs needed it most during a pressure-packed fourth quarter. Over and over, the Spurs patiently worked the ball to Duncan in their halfcourt game.

"Duncan was having such a huge game that if the scoreboard was different, we might have doubled him," Karl said. "This is a team that knows how to play. Whatever you throw at them, they have the counter."

Said Anthony: "It's tough. A team like San Antonio was milking Tim Duncan every time down. We can't do that. We come down and whatever happens, happens."

Parker's baseline jump shot with 27.4 seconds left in regulation gave the Spurs a 107-105 lead. Anthony tied the game with 14.4 seconds left by hitting a pair of free throws after driving to the basket to draw a foul on Duncan.

Denver guard Greg Buckner blocked Manu Ginobili's jump shot from the free-throw line in the final seconds to force the extra period.

"Both teams, I don't know how they could have gotten at it any harder, been more physical or played with more intensity," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said.

San Antonio made 23 of its last 24 free throws in a game that featured 73 fouls.

"That's certainly an aberration," Popovich said of his normally poor free-throw shooting team. "We're happy to accept it.":lol

For the first time in the series, the Nuggets cleared 100 points - in a game that felt like it had 100 fouls. Whistles were a constant.

The Spurs appeared to take control on the strength of a 25-14 third-quarter run that broke a 61-61 tie. But after trailing by 11, the Nuggets seized the lead back when Andre Miller hit a pair of free throws with 4:51 left to put his team up 95-94. Anthony's jumper put Denver up three, but the Spurs tied it with 3:53 left and the game went back and forth to the finish of regulation.

As Karl predicted, Duncan did not repeat his "average" performance of Game 3. He owned the low post like the two-time league MVP that he is.

Neither team led by more than five points in the first half until San Antonio ripped off an 8-0 run late in the second quarter. The Spurs were aided by foul trouble on Marcus Camby, Miller and Boykins, all of whom committed their third personal fouls during the second half of the second quarter.

After Miller drew his third, Boykins had to re-enter the game, and he ended the first half the way Miller did in Game 1 - with a momentum-boosting basket. The point guard sped nearly the length of the court in 3.8 seconds, scoring on a reverse as time expired.

Denver responded in the third quarter, starting out on a 10-4 run.
Game 4

KEY STAT: 39

Tim Duncan's point total. The big guy came up with his biggest game in the series.

KEY PLAY: Manu stops Melo

Manu Ginobili's block of Carmelo Anthony's attempted lay-in with two minutes to go in overtime. A basket there would have cut the Spurs' lead to four points, 115-111.

OFFICIATING: Cry me a river

The officials couldn't please anyone in this game. One game after Denver coach George Karl ripped into the officiating, neither team, nor coach, was happy with the bevy of calls. After foul after foul piled up, Marcus Camby, Kenyon Martin, Anthony, Andre Miller and Earl Boykins all found themselves in foul trouble for Denver, and Bruce Bowen, Rasho Nesterovic, Robert Horry and Glenn Robinson faced the same problem for San Antonio.

A NIGHT OF CHAMPS: Local inspiration

The Nuggets trotted out some local sports heroes early to get the crowd pumped up. Before the game, they introduced Broncos Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey. Then, during a break, they brought out University of Denver coach George Gwozdecky and the NCAA champion Pioneers hockey team.

BEST

* Predicted recovery: As George Karl guessed, Duncan was again himself Monday, finishing with 39 points and 14 rebounds.

* Use of 3.8 seconds: Boykins, who sped down three-quarters of the court for a reverse layup to bring the Nuggets within six at halftime.

* Elevation: Nuggets backup DerMarr Johnson, who skied for a one-handed follow dunk of a missed Boykins 3-pointer with 2:37 left in the third period.

* Response to a technical: After ref Derrick Stafford whistled Camby for a technical foul, Camby won a jump ball over Duncan that set up a Ginobili foul in transition.

* National anthem by a grade-schooler: Lindy Moe, granddaughter of Denver assistant coach Doug Moe, who hit every high note.

WORST

* Flow: With all the stops and starts the whistles brought to this game it was more like football than basketball.

* Ball distribution: The Nuggets again struggled to distribute the ball.

* Whiners: The Pepsi Center crowd, which cried about officiating that did not do many favors for either team.:lol...and thats from the DENVER paper!

Staff writer Adam Thompson can be reached at 303-820-5447 or [email protected].

boutons
05-03-2005, 08:56 AM
"The Nuggets again struggled to distribute the ball."

That's the effect. What was the ineffably mysterious cause?

Defense wins (Spurs) chamipionships.

T Park
05-03-2005, 08:58 AM
Hmm, someone told me after game 2 this team's horrible road play would show up.

Who was that............ (looks above)

MI21
05-03-2005, 09:09 AM
:lol @ Tpark.

Good one.

ChumpDumper
05-03-2005, 09:09 AM
More unintelligible crap from Lincicome ("we could whine and ignore the fact that the Nugs weren't up to the challenge, but -- I forgot where I was going with that -- let's whine!"):

Lincicome: Spurs still oblivious to the rants of Karl

May 3, 2005

In their dark and private corner, the Spurs stood respectfully but ignored the spotlighted Nuggets as the locals were introduced for what could be the final time this season in that overwrought, high-decibel ceremony that precedes even ordinary evenings at the Pepsi Center.

Cheers of anticipation and support rolled from the high balconies while the scoreboard demanded an answer to the question "Do You Believe?" It might as well have asked, "Do You Snore?"

With the last reamplified introduction of Marcus Camby still rattling in their ears, the lights up and the volume down, the Spurs grouped together and hugged, or swore, or chuckled, then tried to wipe away any serious chance the Nuggets had of getting out of the first round of the playoffs.

Would the magic ride on George Karl's Good Humor Hand Cart end more than three hours later, in overtime, with only the last bit of tidying up to be done back in San Antonio on Wednesday, or would the Nuggets keep the band on past closing?

"We must challenge ourselves to figure out how to win," Karl had said earlier. "I think it has hurt us not to have had a must-win game until now."

The Nuggets should not leave this experience as they seemed to endure it, with the idea that there was some overriding conspiracy against them.

Still, as theories go, conspiracy is certainly more interesting than, say, Phlogiston, or the Big Bang or String, so before we treat George Karl's suspicions as so much wacky spite, let us at least offer a small round of applause for their entertainment value.

Implied with each Karl reflection on how fate, the officials and Argentina have mistreated his Nuggets is the opinion that anyone who can do anything about it does not want the Nuggets to beat the Spurs.

None of Karl's musings can match Houston coach Jeff Van Gundy's, after all, the new standard being set at $100,000 for free speech. Van Gundy suggested his center Yao Ming is being overexamined by referees because of Dallas owner Mark Cuban.

The worst Karl has done is let his gripes seep into the general ether, a preemptive alert.

"I'm a wealthy man, but I can't afford that," Karl said of Van Gundy's fine.

Depicting Manu Ginobili as some sort of international anti- hoop Satan is an inspired image and, I am sure, not playing well in Buenos Aires, where rests now the Olympics hardware signifying nothing.

I would suggest any vacation plans for Karl consider Scandinavia or Sri Lanka, geographically as far from South American umbrage as possible.

And to accuse Spurs cipher Bruce Bowen of even underhanded competence elevates Bowen from nobody to curiosity. Heretofore Bowen has contradicted both halves of the term "journeyman" in a career that has gained less attention than lunch.

So, to suggest that Bowen stopped the local darling, Carmelo Anthony, by grabbing and groping and generally getting away with bedlam to Melo's body, is to raise Bowen to the same status as Anthony, rather like linking Booth with Lincoln.

Yet it is Anthony who has been fined $7,500 for a late-game foul of Ginobili that offended no one, including Ginobili.

Without the post-loss grumblings of the Nuggets, this little crab stagger against the Spurs would have been a bunch of off days waiting for Gregg Popovich to fog up a hand mirror.

Instead, we have options. We can scold the Nuggets for soiling their considerable ambition with human complaints (almost every one of which is true) instead of doing something about them.

We can join their delusion and blame everything but their inability to meet the challenge. Or we can just allow that they might know what they are talking about.

Take Bowen, please. This guy does get away with more stuff than an airport baggage handler. The Spurs did not have a foul called until 4 minutes, 29 seconds left in the first quarter, it finally called on Bowen, who reacted as if he had been caught taking change from the tip jar.

As for Ginobili, his piñata dance down the lane was not as frequent nor as effective, so Karl's protests may have done some good. Astonishingly, Ginobili was called for traveling once, not the only time, but clearly the pick of the litter.

Not that it would matter in the end. The majesty of Tim Duncan did more to restore order where order was supposed to be by who was supposed to do the restoring. So, the Nuggets can at least be grateful for that.

As it has been from the beginning, what happens next is up to the Nuggets.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_83_3747808,00.html

nkdlunch
05-03-2005, 09:11 AM
"We didn't get me the ball," Anthony said. "I don't want to sound selfish, but I had something going and we got away from it. I think San Antonio stuck to their game plan. Every time down the court, they went to their go-to guy.":lol


:lmao

ChumpDumper
05-03-2005, 09:12 AM
Every time down the court, they went to their go-to guy.What's he talking about? Boykins got a lot of touches.

Spurminator
05-03-2005, 09:14 AM
LOL... I like this Lincicome guy, he doesn't give up.

CosmicCowboy
05-03-2005, 09:16 AM
What's he talking about? Boykins got a lot of touches.

:lmao

Extra Stout
05-03-2005, 09:20 AM
:lol Gawd, Lancicome is such an awful columnist. His bunghole still aches from having Ginobili shove his own words up it with a suppository of crow, so now he's going after Bowen:


And to accuse Spurs cipher Bruce Bowen of even underhanded competence elevates Bowen from nobody to curiosity. Heretofore Bowen has contradicted both halves of the term "journeyman" in a career that has gained less attention than lunch.

So, to suggest that Bowen stopped the local darling, Carmelo Anthony, by grabbing and groping and generally getting away with bedlam to Melo's body, is to raise Bowen to the same status as Anthony, rather like linking Booth with Lincoln.

Hmm... Bowen's been All-Defense multiple times and wears an NBA Championship ring. Carmelo has...???

Of course, this can only mean that Bowen will break his playoff career high of 27 points in Game 5, while holding Carmelo to single digits.

I sure hope this guy knows something about the Broncos, or the Avs, or something. Otherwise, wow.

Oh, today the Post's resident sports genius, Mark Kiszla, is calling for Kenyon Martin to be traded for a jump shooter. :lol Don't bother e-mailing him with an explanation of base year compensation; he's too far gone.

Today's Clueless Ranting (http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E107%257E,00.html)


Midnight struck precisely as San Antonio beat Denver 126-115 in overtime. Nobody in a Nuggets uniform needed a clock to know the time.

Those 12 chimes were the bell tolling for Denver.

Down 3-1 in the best-of-seven playoff series to San Antonio, the Nuggets will now be asked to go away as quietly as the team's long, silent march to the locker room after this heartbreaking defeat.

Want to see the picture of dejection and how teammates who share a bond deal with it?

In the back hall of the Pepsi Center, Denver point guard Earl Boykins walked on, proving that sometimes the hardest move an NBA player can make is just putting one foot ahead of the other.

Forward Kenyon Martin, stripped to the waist, reached out and gave Boykins a little tap on the head.

No words were required.

"We might have run out gas," Nuggets coach George Karl said early this morning.

When the cheers fade away, the difficult question about this team must be asked.

If Denver is eliminated in five games of the NBA's opening playoff round for the second straight season, how much exactly did this team improve?

You know the answer. In sports, the scoreboard is all that counts.

And the Nuggets have not addressed their No. 1 problem in the past 12 months.

The jump shot is dying in America. A sweet 20-footer is an endangered species for a dunk-obsessed nation. Nowhere is it deader than in Denver.

The Nuggets can't shoot straight. This is what happens when you spend all your money on brawn and none on touch.

In overtime, as all the sweat and determination of the Nuggets began slipping away, the loudest sound in the Pepsi Center was the gnashing of teeth.

Denver had nobody who could make a clutch basket from 20 feet. In the extra period, San Antonio guard Tony Parker scored 11 points, three more than all the Nuggets combined.

After a recent practice, as point guard Andre Miller practiced his shot, there was not enough room to wedge a $100 bill between his sneakers and the floor. Denver elder statesman Doug Moe observed that he got as much lift on his jumper as Miller did.

This is not meant to disrespect Miller. It is only mentioned to illustrate that if the Nuggets are unable to run, their offense is never pretty.

Among players in Karl's heavy rotation, the men with the softest touch from the field are Marcus Camby and Boykins. Denver's most dangerous threats from perimeter are a giant and munchkin. That's not how NBA champions are built.

Clank sounds ugliest during the playoffs. The Nuggets went more than six minutes without a basket and missed 12-of-16 shots in the second quarter.

Unless the NBA decides to adopt a rule change that awards three points for dunks, Denver will be lucky to advance past the first round of the playoffs.

When the score and throats are tight during crunch time, where does Karl turn for a crucial hoop?

"I don't believe in go-to guys, unless you've got one of the top five players in basketball," Karl said the other night, after Denver scored only 78 points while losing Game 3.

With phone calls, Camby tried recruiting Manu Ginobili, when the San Antonio's takes-a-licking-and-keeps-ticking guard was a free agent last summer.

When that courtship failed, Nuggets general manager Kiki Vandeweghe gave a $92 million contract to Martin, who flexes his biceps like a bodybuilder, and shoots like one, as well.

In this playoff series, Martin is averaging 12 points per game.

Now for the tricky part. Regardless of how this season ends, the Nuggets need a shooter.

Scorers will flood the free-agent market. Ray Allen, Michael Redd and Jerry Stackhouse will be the next NBA players to uphold that fine capitalistic tradition of trading loyalty for big money.

The trouble is, Denver has little wiggle room under the salary cap to sign any one of them.

Not that anyone asked my advice, but Vandeweghe might have to admit his fiscal mistake on Martin and use the veteran, overpaid forward as trade bait for a shooter.

There's no questioning the heart of Martin or the Nuggets.

What they need to avoid the heartbreak is more skill.

orhe
05-03-2005, 09:23 AM
yeah this lincicome must be doin thiis to piss us off :)
he's really funny in a weird way

CosmicCowboy
05-03-2005, 09:23 AM
Not enough whistles were blown for this guy?

:lmao

this guy obviously handled hockey coverage before the strike and just writes fluff articles between sweeping the floors and emptying the trash...he sure doesn't know basketball...:lol

ladiesman
05-03-2005, 09:23 AM
Depicting Manu Ginobili as some sort of international anti- hoop Satan is an inspired image and, I am sure, not playing well in Buenos Aires, where rests now the Olympics hardware signifying nothing.


Right next to the 2003 NBA Championship Ring. :hat

Spurminator
05-03-2005, 09:25 AM
The Spurs present five players on their roster who have won at least two NBA championships.

No Nugget has won one.

Huh?

MaNuMaNiAc
05-03-2005, 09:27 AM
JESUS! that Lincicome is a royal prick!

Extra Stout
05-03-2005, 09:28 AM
I believe only Timmy has two.

Tony, Manu, and Bruce each have one.

Rob has FIVE.

So, umm, that's an average of two per person. Is that what he meant?

ChumpDumper
05-03-2005, 09:34 AM
Heretofore Bowen has contradicted both halves of the term "journeyman" in a career that has gained less attention than lunch.How does one contradict "journey" anyway? Playing only home games?

Jimcs50
05-03-2005, 09:37 AM
So much for altitude bothering SA, huh?

The Spurs got stronger as the games went on compared to Denver, so all this talk about the Mile High city hurting SA was Much Ado about nothing

boutons
05-03-2005, 09:44 AM
"rests now the Olympics hardware signifying nothing."

"pick of the litter"

litter, as in "the offspring at one birth of a multiparous animal"

or

as in "refuse or rubbish lying scattered about" Which metaphor is it, Mr. Writer? Neither metaphor fits.

"pinata dance" Pinata's don't dance, asshole.

Pinatas get beat to shit by people with sticks. Manu as a beat-up pinata, gettng clubbed by the Thuggets? Yeah, that fits. But WTF did you mean?

Still whining tht Bowen's defense on Melo (with 4 PF but still with 28 pts) goes unpunished (Bruce with 4 PF) in a playoff game rotten with ticky-tacky, touch, phantom fouls, while Melo's cheap-shot-from-behind on Manu unjustifiably gets a FF and ejection?

Somebody tells ME to be gracious? In the face of this confused, gratuitous, xenophobic, jingoistic trash from a Denver "writer". GMAFB

Just like your team, Mr. Writer, you really are a long way from prime time, hacking away for some backwoods rag. You couldn't write your way out of 10th grade English composition class.

Spurs absolutely must put these mofo's down Wed night. What a filthy experience this series has been.

SWC Bonfire
05-03-2005, 09:52 AM
I believe only Timmy has two.

Tony, Manu, and Bruce each have one.

Rob has FIVE.

So, umm, that's an average of two per person. Is that what he meant?

Maybe a Freudian slip about this season...

exstatic
05-03-2005, 10:14 AM
Dude is a major loser.

TwoHandJam
05-03-2005, 10:30 AM
He is insignificant. Simple as that.

His articles are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Useruser666
05-03-2005, 10:37 AM
What an ass. There is simply too much wrong with that article to cover.

myhc
05-03-2005, 01:02 PM
Wow, more whining coming from the writers now? SHOCKING. He can't take that his Nuggets are going down so he has to resort to belittling Argentina's gold medal.

Mark in Austin
05-03-2005, 01:18 PM
There's no questioning the heart of Martin

wanna bet?

bigbendbruisebrother
05-03-2005, 02:03 PM
So much for altitude bothering SA, huh?

The Spurs got stronger as the games went on compared to Denver, so all this talk about the Mile High city hurting SA was Much Ado about nothing

We have to be careful though getting reacclimated to SA though. That recompression can be a bitch.

TMSKILZ
05-03-2005, 02:13 PM
Losers never win!

bigbendbruisebrother
05-03-2005, 02:14 PM
There's no questioning the heart of Martin


http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/NewSite/LAGNIAPPE/SusiesCorner/SCARECROW.JPG

If he only had a brain...

CrazyOne
05-03-2005, 02:27 PM
LInicome writes like he has to write an essay using the last ten "word of the day"... it makes your brain hurt trying to follow meaning or sentence structure...

GSH
05-03-2005, 02:33 PM
Reply to Thomas George's Denver Post Article:


I read your article entitled “Talk Not Cheap for Spurs”. It was a pretty courageous piece for a Denver sportswriter to publish. I had a few other thoughts to add:


One of the first steps in becoming a championship team is learning to take responsibility. George Karl didn’t do this year’s Nuggets any favors with his classless attacks on Manu Ginobili - he didn’t do next year’s team any favors either. On nights when the calls go incredibly one-sided against the Spurs, Greg Popovich’s comments usually run along the lines of, “If we had made our shots, it wouldn’t have mattered.”

Marcus Camby is a man among boys on the Nuggets’ team. He is definitely capable of delivering a hard foul, as the game sometimes requires; he might even lay a hard foul on a player out of frustration occasionally, as will a lot of players. But you won’t see him participate in the kind of cheap shot that Carmello Anthony laid on Manu at the end of Game 3. And you won’t see Camby on the floor doing pushups in the middle of a playoff game. But you will see him being man enough in an interview to give Ginobili the credit he is due, after an incredible game.

It’s not because Marcus Camby is trying to win the Nice Guy of the Year Award – he’s a fierce competitor, on and off the court. He knows something that the rest of his teammates haven’t learned yet; something that George Karl seems to have forgotten, if he ever knew it. There is no shame in getting beaten by a great player, or a great team. You use the experience as a challenge to improve, so that you can be the better player next time. Camby knows that pushups don’t win basketball games. And he is enough of a professional to know that an entire season, or even career, can be lost to a single cheap shot – and next time it might be you on the receiving end.

With his public comments about Manu Ginobili, George Karl sent a message to his young team – he told them that it is valid to make excuses. He taught them to say, “We were really the winners… we just got bad calls.” By giving them that excuse, he has deprived them of the only positive thing that can come from losing in the playoffs. If you are already the “real” winners… if you are already the best team… then you don’t have to improve. You just have to get the right calls. In other words… he taught them to remain boys in a man’s world.

George Karl did an amazing job turning the Nuggets’ season around – he’s well known for doing just that. What he is not known for is winning championships. He’s come close, but never made it over the hump. Maybe he got the most out of all of his past teams, and they went as far as they could. But maybe, just maybe, he didn’t give them that one extra piece that is the difference between a group of talented players and a championship team.

So how do the Nuggets become the kind of finishers that you talk about in your article? Well, instead of complaining about Manu Ginobili, the Nuggets players might try learning something from him. When asked about the very-flagrant foul at the end of the game, Manu said that it was just a hard foul and that he wasn’t upset about it. You can’t take that comment any more seriously than George Karl’s comments that Ginobili’s style of play is ugly, and bad for the game. Karl’s comments were an attempt to explain why he lost the previous game. Ginobili’s comments explained why he won the next one.

FromWayDowntown
05-03-2005, 02:39 PM
That's just excellent, GSH!!

Keep bringing it.

nickbroken
05-03-2005, 02:39 PM
Why the hell would they bring Champ Bailey out for inspiration?The broncos got spanked in the wild card by the Colts, worse then the Nuggets are getting beat down by the spurs, maybe it's a way to say atleast it wasn't this bad of a beating. *que Champ* :lol

samikeyp
05-03-2005, 02:57 PM
Well said, GSH.

Lonestar
05-03-2005, 03:09 PM
"What a filthy experience this series has been.

You're damned sure right about that. It's been nasty in every way, shape and form. I only take heart in knowing that this has prepared the Spurs for just about anything another opponent can dish out.

Rick Von Braun
05-03-2005, 05:35 PM
Very nice piece GSH

td4mvp21
05-03-2005, 06:25 PM
Carmelo's a loser. Why doesn't he take a look at Duncan-on the last play in regulation he let Ginobili have it. Its about leadership, not taking all the shots. Carmelo's just a big baby, he whines about everything. But we should try to support him during this tough time;he can't bring his passifier to games.

smeagol
05-03-2005, 06:30 PM
The board has a new quality poster in GSH.

xcoriate
05-03-2005, 06:49 PM
Wow GSH wow!


Great retort.

travis2
05-04-2005, 07:01 AM
GSH...that kind of thoughtful reporting will NOT be allowed here! Cease and desist immediately!

:lol