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DarrinS
03-23-2010, 01:37 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/15/green-consumers-more-likely-steal





When Al Gore was caught running up huge energy bills at home at the same time as lecturing on the need to save electricity, it turns out that he was only reverting to "green" type.

According to a study, when people feel they have been morally virtuous by saving the planet through their purchases of organic baby food, for example, it leads to the "licensing [of] selfish and morally questionable behaviour", otherwise known as "moral balancing" or "compensatory ethics".

Do Green Products Make Us Better People is published in the latest edition of the journal Psychological Science. Its authors, Canadian psychologists Nina Mazar and Chen-Bo Zhong, argue that people who wear what they call the "halo of green consumerism" are less likely to be kind to others, and more likely to cheat and steal. "Virtuous acts can license subsequent asocial and unethical behaviours," they write.

The pair found that those in their study who bought green products appeared less willing to share with others a set amount of money than those who bought conventional products. When the green consumers were given the chance to boost their money by cheating on a computer game and then given the opportunity to lie about it – in other words, steal – they did, while the conventional consumers did not. Later, in an honour system in which participants were asked to take money from an envelope to pay themselves their spoils, the greens were six times more likely to steal than the conventionals.

Mazar and Zhong said their study showed that just as exposure to pictures of exclusive restaurants can improve table manners but may not lead to an overall improvement in behaviour, "green products do not necessarily make for better people". They added that one motivation for carrying out the study was that, despite the "stream of research focusing on identifying the 'green consumer'", there was a lack of understanding into "how green consumption fits into people's global sense of responsibility and morality and [how it] affects behaviours outside the consumption domain".

The pair said their findings surprised them, having thought that just as "exposure to the Apple logo increased creativity", according to a recent study, "given that green products are manifestations of high ethical standards and humanitarian considerations, mere exposure" to them would "activate norms of social responsibility and ethical conduct".

Dieter Frey, a social psychologist at the University of Munich, said the findings fitted patterns of human behaviour. "At the moment in which you have proven your credentials in a particular area, you tend to allow yourself to stray elsewhere," he said.

DarrinS
03-23-2010, 03:36 PM
<crickets>

jack sommerset
03-23-2010, 03:47 PM
There is a volcano in Iceland going off so the global warming chatter will heat up again.

Winehole23
03-23-2010, 03:48 PM
You had high hopes for this one, DS? A data set that suggests greens are mean?

Do I sense disappointment here?

DarrinS
03-23-2010, 03:49 PM
Do I sense disappointment here?




The two Canadian psychologists were disappointed.

ChumpDumper
03-23-2010, 03:50 PM
A computer game?

That's definitive, isn't it?

I wonder if they tested a group of people who believe in the rapture or like posting YouTubes on message boards.

DarrinS
03-23-2010, 03:52 PM
A computer game?

That's definitive, isn't it?

I wonder if they tested a group of people who believe in the rapture or like posting YouTubes on message boards.


They should do a study on people who use questions for 66% of their sentences.

ChumpDumper
03-23-2010, 03:55 PM
They should do a study on people who use questions for 66% of their sentences.And the people who are too afraid to answer.

I cheat on all computer games, except when I don't.

jack sommerset
03-23-2010, 03:55 PM
They should do a study on people who use questions for 66% of their sentences.

Annoying, isn't it?

ChumpDumper
03-23-2010, 03:56 PM
:cry

jack sommerset
03-23-2010, 04:05 PM
I'm petty and insecure. I have to respond to everything and I will have last word/question. That makes me a winner in my book! A winner I tell you, I am a winner

ChumpDumper
03-23-2010, 04:10 PM
I'm petty and insecure. I have to respond to everything and I will have last word/question. That makes me a winner in my book! A winner I tell you, I am a winner

jack sommerset
03-23-2010, 04:13 PM
You got nothing. Just annoying little petty man.

ChumpDumper
03-23-2010, 04:15 PM
Which is why you keep posting about me.

That says a lot about you.

spursncowboys
03-23-2010, 05:38 PM
Annoying, isn't it?
I love when people do that, or do I?

Jacob1983
03-23-2010, 05:42 PM
No sane person can that they Al Gore is all about fighting global warming because he only wants to save the planet. Well, a part of it might because he wants to save Earth but I'm pretty sure he enjoys the money that he makes from his involvement in the fight against evil global warming.

Wild Cobra
03-23-2010, 05:51 PM
You had high hopes for this one, DS? A data set that suggests greens are mean?

Do I sense disappointment here?
I think the message is simple. Those lacking moral integrity think that those who are honest must be lying too, and therefor those who admit to using the energy must be curtailed.

EmptyMan
03-23-2010, 09:16 PM
Eco-fascists hate themselves and project it onto the rest of humanity.


The good-intentioned ones are just being used.

PixelPusher
03-23-2010, 09:42 PM
Assuming the premise of this study is true, what "moral balancing" activity explains the ever present dickishness of conservatives?

Going to church? Wearing a flag pin?

scott
03-23-2010, 09:52 PM
I believe there is correlation, but not causation, as the title of the thread implies.

I did a graduate research paper once on how Christians are 37 times more prone to commit crimes than atheists. Correlation, not causation.

Wild Cobra
03-24-2010, 01:32 AM
I believe there is correlation, but not causation, as the title of the thread implies.

I did a graduate research paper once on how Christians are 37 times more prone to commit crimes than atheists. Correlation, not causation.
If the crimes were based on their own perception of crime, I agree. If you have no moral crimes beliefs, then it's not a crime.

Winehole23
03-24-2010, 01:40 AM
I think the message is simple. Those lacking moral integrity think that those who are honest must be lying too, and therefor those who admit to using the energy must be curtailed.Going green, WC?

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Winehole23
03-24-2010, 01:42 AM
Awesomely backed by the Grease Band.

jacobdrj
03-24-2010, 02:04 AM
Manbearpig is real, damn it!

DMX7
03-24-2010, 02:25 AM
This thread is interesting, or is it?