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duncan228
03-23-2010, 03:20 PM
Lakers look forward to first round (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5019820)
By Dave McMenamin
ESPNLosAngeles.com

EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- If the Los Angeles Lakers played in the East, the motivation to finish with the best record in the conference would be palpable, as the teams vying for the No. 8 seed -- the Toronto Raptors, Charlotte Bobcats and Miami Heat -- are all floating around the .500 mark.

Meanwhile, the first-round playoff reward for Los Angeles should it finish atop the West is likely the Oklahoma City Thunder, San Antonio Spurs, Portland Trail Blazers or Phoenix Suns, all teams with records 10 games above .500 or better.

The Lakers start their upcoming five-game road trip with two of those teams, the Spurs and Thunder, on Wednesday and Friday.

Kobe Bryant says that with just 12 games remaining in the regular season, the Lakers are starting to wonder which team they will start the playoffs against.

"You look at it a little bit; you start following the standings a little bit more just out of mere curiosity to know who you'll be playing," Bryant said Monday after the team met to take the official photo for the 2009-10 season (they do it after the trade deadline so it reflects how the roster looks at the end of the season). "But, for the most part, you just stay focused on the next game."

Even if the Lakers already knew their first-round opponent, it wouldn't offer much solace. Every scenario offers its challenges. The Suns are a veteran bunch with a balanced inside-outside attack led by Amar'e Stoudemire and Steve Nash. The Spurs have banded together after Tony Parker's hand injury and are impeccably coached thanks to Gregg Popovich. The Thunder are young and confident, and the Blazers have the Lakers' number in Portland.

There's that old phrase,"You pick your battles," but in the Lakers' case, there's no use trying to pick because it's going to be a battle no matter what.

"We have never involved ourselves in that," coach Phil Jackson said. "There's obviously choices, but we've always said, 'That team would be really tough if we had to play them,' or whatever, but it's never, 'We don't want to play this team.'

"I think all the teams that are going to be opponents in the West [this year] are going to be good," Jackson continued. "We have teams that are fighting to see what position they are going to be in, sixth-seventh-eighth, that are all very good basketball clubs. There really isn't much that separates eight from five at this point and time."

The Lakers became the first team in the West to clinch a playoff berth Thursday, and when Jackson was told about the feat after the win against the Minnesota Timberwolves, he barely batted an eyelash.

There's no time for celebrating a minor accomplishment like that when a championship is the goal. That's why Jackson said that a successful mark on the upcoming road trip would be 5-0 and that going 4-1 would be merely "acceptable" but "not what champions look for."

He's trying to ramp up the team for a postseason that will be difficult from the very start. Last season, L.A. found itself in an unexpected seven-game series against the Houston Rockets in the second round. There's no guarantee the Lakers won't face a series like that in every round this year.

It wouldn't be the first time the Lakers had to pound it out in the postseason.

"I was just talking to Dr. [Jerry] Buss about it this morning," Jackson said. "He was here and actually mentioned the fact that it's never a good practice [to worry about who your playoff opponent will be] when we were talking about it. We talked about the time we went through the three toughest teams in the West in Portland, San Antonio and Sacramento [in 2001 and 2002]. … Somehow or other, that makes your team really prepped for a championship round."

Los Angeles is 52-18 and riding a six-game winning streak. Andrew Bynum said it's the team goal to finish with 60 wins. Ron Artest said he wants L.A. to win out. Bryant said that no matter how hot the Lakers finish the season, they are readying themselves for a first-round rumble.

"All the years that we've won, except for the second championship run, we've had tough playoffs series and been pushed to the brink of elimination, even in the first round, and we went into the playoffs playing extremely well," Bryant said.

Allanon
03-23-2010, 05:23 PM
Getting OKC or Portland in the 1st round would save the Lakers alot of energy for the later rounds.

redzero
03-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Getting OKC or Portland in the 1st round would save the Lakers alot of energy for the later rounds.

Durant would put 40 a game and the Thunder would be swept.

oh crap
03-23-2010, 05:45 PM
there wouldn't be a sweep. the lake show would take the series, probably easily, but I could see it going 6.

Kai
03-23-2010, 08:10 PM
Durant would put 40 a game and the Thunder would be swept.

Then Artest would claim Durant > Roy > Kobe :lol

21_Blessings
03-23-2010, 09:59 PM
I'm looking forward to the Lakers season starting in late April.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 10:03 PM
I'm looking forward to the Lakers season starting in late April.


The way Denver and Dallas are playing I think you mean June. Not trying to jinx or anything, just don't really see any west team giving LA any problem.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 10:14 PM
Carlisle's been holding Beaubois back all year for the inevitable WCF showdown v the Lakers. He is ready to blow his load all over Fisher's face. Dampwood will make PAULINA and ANDREA their BITCH too :smokin

ffadicted
03-23-2010, 10:18 PM
Thunder will shit on whoever they meet on the first round, I wouldn't want any part of those guys

ezau
03-23-2010, 10:41 PM
The Thunder is a a tough team. Lakers can beat them though in seven, grueling games.

redzero
03-23-2010, 10:47 PM
The Thunder is a a tough team. Lakers can beat them though in seven, grueling games.

No, they aren't. They aren't going to do anything in the playoffs, especially against the Lakers.

oh crap
03-23-2010, 10:54 PM
No, they aren't. They aren't going to do anything in the playoffs, especially against the Lakers.

interesting observation from someone on the outside looking in on the playoff picture. how's the view from there again, anyways?

Killakobe81
03-23-2010, 11:02 PM
OKC? 5 games at most ...

Killakobe81
03-23-2010, 11:05 PM
young teams are playoff fodder traditionally I would love a plate of thunders for an appeteizer ...

duncan228
03-23-2010, 11:07 PM
Lakers: What, them worry? Well, they ought to (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-worries-20100323,0,377095.story)
As they head out on a five-game trip, kicking off the regular-season stretch run, Lakers have more issues than a defending champion probably should. Here are five that are foremost in fans' minds, and five that beat writer Mike Bresnahan says need to be addressed by playoff time.
By Mike Bresnahan
LA Times

Do the Lakers have enough firepower to win a second consecutive championship? Definitely. Do they have enough experience? For sure. Can they combine the two to take home the franchise's 16th title, one shy of the Boston Celtics? Maybe.

With visions of their 0-3 road swoon this month still in mind, not to mention two unspectacular home victories this past weekend against the dregs of the NBA, here are 10 reasons the Lakers might not repeat as champions, five supplied by readers of the Times' Lakers Blog (complete with rejoinders by Times beat writer Mike Bresnahan) and five supplied by Bresnahan, who is in his sixth season covering the Lakers.

Fans' five

1 The fans say: "The Lakers have no dependable three-point threat anymore. 'The Machine' has been broken for a long time now, Derek Fisher is aging, Jordan Farmar is inconsistent. Where is our Steve Kerr?"

Bresnahan says: "I was sending out a Twitter dispatch from last week's Sacramento game, something to the effect of 'Sasha Vujacic is on fire!' and then realized he had scored six points, which was 'on fire' only for him. If Vujacic doesn't improve quickly and if Fisher doesn't find his three-point touch (he's down to 34.9%, almost a five-point drop from last season), teams will start sagging off the Lakers' shooters and pack the lane. It could get ugly later in the playoffs."

2 The fans say: "The defense is way too inconsistent. The Lakers seem to have problems with the role players, making them look better than they are actually are."

Bresnahan says: " Quentin Richardson had 25 points and seven three-pointers against the Lakers. Phoenix backup Louis Amundson had a double-double. Golden State center Chris Hunter, a guy I never knew existed until he played against the Lakers last week, had 22 points. And that's just this month. Think Jamario Moon, Rodrigue Beaubois, Marcin Gortat and Anthony Carter are aware of it?"

3 The fans say: " Lamar Odom is too inconsistent. The X-factor needs to be the consistent factor. How can this guy not even win sixth man of the year if he's supposedly a starter level? He sometimes takes shots completely out of sequence and often pretends to be a mini-Magic."

Bresnahan says: "I'm still waiting for Lamar Odom to turn the corner this season. His scoring is down from a year ago, his shooting percentage is down and his turnovers are up. He could be lots and lots in a box but is sometimes only as good as a Filet-O-Fish value meal, which, let's face it, isn't very good."

4 The fans say: "The Lakers are 8-9 against the other top teams in the league (Cleveland, Orlando, Dallas, Denver, Atlanta, Utah and Boston). You can talk all you want about 'It's a different story in the playoffs' . . . but their record against these teams is a good indicator of how they'll fare in the playoffs."

Bresnahan says: "I'm going to talk about how it's a different story in the playoffs. In other words, I'm not buying this one. The Lakers were 0-2 against Orlando in the 2008-09 regular season and had no problem beating the Magic in the NBA Finals. Let's move on."

5 The fans say: " Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol will wear out at the end of the season because of the last few years of international play, and with the Lakers going all the way to the Finals, they haven't really rested during the off-season. It seems like it's starting to catch up with them this season."

Bresnahan says: "The worrisome part for Lakers fans is that Bryant's minutes are up. Way up. He's playing 38.9 minutes a game, an increase from 36.1 last season. It's a testimony to how close the Lakers' games have been this season. Not nearly enough blowouts to get Bryant adequate in-game rest. He played 40 minutes against Washington the other night because the Lakers couldn't put away the Wizards. Forty minutes. Against the Wizards. Such nights should be remembered if the Lakers look tired in May or June."

Bresnahan's five

1 Time to get physical. Gasol was strong in the playoffs last season, standing up to intimidation ( Denver Nuggets, anybody?) and pushing back whenever he was shoved. He'll need to do the same if the Lakers get the Nuggets again in the Western Conference playoffs and happen to play Cleveland in the Finals. (Stat to remember: Gasol averaged an insignificant 12 points and eight rebounds while shooting 37.5% in two losses to the physically imposing Cavaliers this season.)

2 The Ron Artest experiment continues to move forward. Then backward. Then sideways. Artest will have memorable games (Denver, Carmelo Anthony, seven-for-19 shooting, Feb. 28) followed by not-so-memorable games (Orlando, Vince Carter, 25 points, March 7).

The Artest-for-Ariza free-agent swap should be judged over a period of years, not months, but Minnesota Timberwolves Coach Kurt Rambis said it best a few days ago when he called Ariza a fluid three-point shooter with sneaky-good defensive skills before saying that Artest was, well, uh, a strong guy. Artest needs a slew of sturdy playoff showings to swing momentum in his favor.

3 It's been a little more than two weeks since Gasol last spoke about the need for more balance on offense after watching Bryant shoot 12 for 30 against Orlando. Since then, the Lakers have won six consecutive games and Gasol has averaged 21.9 points on 63.2% shooting. Everybody's happy.

A good leader continually takes notice of what's going on around him. Bryant would be smart to keep his big men involved, sacrificing two or three shots a game to find Gasol or Andrew Bynum down low. It's not a lot. Really.

4 The Lakers need to improve their pick-and-roll defense, a crucial phrase that could be cut-and-pasted from plenty of stories during the Shaquille O'Neal era. Bynum, like O'Neal, doesn't always jump out on opposing guards after a Lakers guard gets erased on a screen. Bynum is too concerned about his man scoring and often gets caught in a gray area, neither harassing the opposing guard nor sticking to his man.

Bynum had been better in recent weeks before getting hurt Friday. When he comes back, he'll need to stay aggressive in pick-and-roll situations and jump out on opposing guards while the Lakers' defense recovers, if only for a few precious seconds.

5 It's just not that easy. The NBA hasn't had a repeat champion since the Lakers in 2002, the final chapter of their three-championship run. The truth for the Lakers, and their fans, is that nothing less than a championship will be satisfactory this season. Maybe there will be another party at the Coliseum. Maybe there won't be. Only the month of June holds the answers.

redzero
03-24-2010, 01:51 AM
interesting observation from someone on the outside looking in on the playoff picture. how's the view from there again, anyways?

Cool ad hominem, bro.

ezau
03-24-2010, 04:00 AM
Cool ad hominem, bro.

:lmao:lmao

SomeCallMeTim
03-24-2010, 08:42 AM
Dampwood

:lol

SomeCallMeTim
03-24-2010, 08:44 AM
interesting observation from someone on the outside looking in on the playoff picture. how's the view from there again, anyways?

Because having one's favorite team not qualified for the playoffs makes one unqualified to discuss playoff matchups?

mogrovejo
03-24-2010, 08:49 AM
OKC and the Spurs are scary opponents for the Lakers.

Muser
03-24-2010, 08:52 AM
OKC and the Spurs are scary opponents for the Lakers.


Not really.

mogrovejo
03-24-2010, 08:54 AM
Not really.

Yes, really.

Killakobe81
03-24-2010, 09:03 AM
Spurs yes ...especially if bynum is out ...
OKC no ...young teams are usually first round fodder

i know the celts had all kind sof trouble with the Bulls ...last year but that is the statistical outlier not the norm. Portlland last year is more indicative how young teams do in their first attempt at the playoffs or Denver 3 years before or The Gasol memphis teams or the KG Twolves teams ...

Muser
03-24-2010, 09:13 AM
What's scary about the Spurs?

redzero
03-24-2010, 09:57 AM
Because having one's favorite team not qualified for the playoffs makes one unqualified to discuss playoff matchups?

I don't know why a Hawks fan is talking shit, because the only thing they did in the playoffs is struggle to beat Dwyane Wade in seven games.

lil_penny
03-24-2010, 10:10 AM
Lakers will sweep okc.. or beat portland in 5 or 6...

The only reason okc is in the playoffs is due to noh, houston and portland being injured this year. I mean they are healthy all season and only ahead of portland by like 2 games lol

21_Blessings
03-24-2010, 10:46 AM
Kobe and Gasol are going to have a field day against the Spurs. Especially if Timmy has to defend Drew all series.

George Hill will be crying for his mommy once that series gets underway and Pop realizes he has no other real Kobe defender.