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Findog
03-23-2010, 03:36 PM
This is the Official Mavs-Clips Game Blog

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:37 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/preview?gid=2010032306

The Dallas Mavericks have hit a rough patch since going almost a month without a loss. A visit from the Los Angeles Clippers could help them get back on track.

Looking to avoid a third consecutive defeat, the Mavericks try to bounce back with a seventh straight home win over the Clippers on Tuesday night.

Dallas (46-24) won 13 straight games from Feb. 17-March 10, and appeared ready to challenge the Los Angeles Lakers for the top spot in the Western Conference. However, after a 115-99 loss at New Orleans on Monday, the Mavericks have dropped two in a row and three four since that winning stretch.

Now third in the West and six games behind the first-place Lakers—Dallas hasn’t lost three straight games since Jan. 28-Feb. 1.

“I think the big thing is we’re being inconsistent,” Mavericks guard Jason Kidd(notes) said. “Maybe a little bit too relaxed. It’s something we have to look at.”

The Mavericks have a chance to turn things around against the Clippers (26-44), who’ve lost four in a row and 10 of 11 between the teams. Losers of 10 straight on the road overall, Los Angeles hasn’t won in Dallas since April 19, 2006.

Still, Dallas likely needs to play a more complete game than it did against the Hornets to get back to its winning ways.

Jason Terry(notes) scored 24 points and Dirk Nowitzki(notes) added 16 for the Mavericks, who shot 51.9 percent but blew an early 16-point lead and committed 18 turnovers, which New Orleans converted into 35 points.

After holding its opponents to 97.1 points per game on 45.0 percent shooting during the extended winning streak, Dallas is giving up an average of 112.8 points on 53.8 percent shooting over the last four.

“It’s disappointing, (the players) clearly have a focus problem that we must look at and fix before the postseason,” Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. “And we have the ability to do it. We have a quick turnaround and everyone has to bounce back We are going to have to do a lot better than we did (Monday).”

The Mavericks haven’t had much trouble stopping the Clippers at home in recent years. Los Angeles has averaged 91.3 points during its last six trips to Dallas.

Nowitzki’s averaged 30.0 points in his last four games against the Clippers. He had 24 with nine rebounds in Dallas’ 93-84 win at Los Angeles on Oct. 31.

Chris Kaman(notes) had 27 points and 11 rebounds in that contest for the Clippers, but the veteran center was held to 12 points in a 102-89 home loss to Sacramento on Sunday.

After snapping an eight-game losing skid with a 101-93 win over Milwaukee on Wednesday, the Clippers allowed the Kings to shoot 50 percent while being held to fewer than 90 points for fifth time in nine contests.

“There is no explanation for our performance. It was just a lack of effort,” said guard Baron Davis(notes), who had 13 points but two assists. “On a given night, not everyone is going to have it offensively. But I think there are other things that can be done on the court.”

Second-year guard Eric Gordon(notes) had 23 points Sunday, and 32 in Los Angeles’ 107-102 loss in its last trip to Dallas on Jan. 6, 2009.

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:37 PM
Dallas:

http://www.degeneratepress.com/travel/texas_2005/images/whataburger_burger.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:38 PM
Los Angeles:

http://thesoniashow.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/562411329_ccfb14c6fe1.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:40 PM
Dallas:

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/071112/lhagman_l.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:40 PM
Los Angeles:

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/will-smith-the-fresh-prince-of-bel-air.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:41 PM
Texas Shithead Republican Governor:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/governor-rick-perry.jpg

AnthonyM
03-23-2010, 03:41 PM
Los Angeles:

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/will-smith-the-fresh-prince-of-bel-air.jpg

But, technically, he's from West Philadelphia...born and raised...

Send To Phone

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:42 PM
California Shithead Republican Governor:

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/arnold-schwarzenegger-world-premiere-of-rocky-balboa-tm2zqg.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:43 PM
Who the Mavericks play second fiddle to:

http://www.mysports-today.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-2.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:44 PM
Who the Clippers play second fiddle to:

http://thesportsunion.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/laker-girls.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:45 PM
Aging, overrated point guard:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2283392688_173db76caa_o.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:46 PM
Aging, overrated point guard:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0901/nba.games.of.the.week0119/images/baron-davis.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:46 PM
Tragic Rookie:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2750/4109293113_a9800d7c6b_o.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:48 PM
Tragic Rookie:

http://www.spartyandfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/blake-griffin-clippers.jpg

noob cake
03-23-2010, 03:49 PM
Future MVP PF**
http://www.everyjoe.com/expertfantasy/files/2009/07/blake-griffin-clippers-20081217_jes_bv3_900.jpg

Shooting PF retiring without a ring
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/chris_ballard/04/20/dirk.nash/T1_0419_dirk.jpg

**After bailing on the Clippers once his rookie contract is over, hopefully his career would not have ended before then

The Gemini Method
03-23-2010, 03:49 PM
I would put something up for Dirk and Kaman being German/on German team, but that would be stealing thunder...

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:51 PM
Future Medical Retirement:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-12/26/xin_541203260920568296073.jpg

GTFO Rocket fan, let the grownups discuss basketball.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 03:52 PM
I like Los mavs chances tonight. Drew gooden will probably have a big night agaisnt Eduardo Najera.

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:52 PM
I would put something up for Dirk and Kaman being German/on German team, but that would be stealing thunder...

Last year my fantasy basketball team was Chris Kaman Your Mouth.

Findog
03-23-2010, 03:53 PM
I like Los mavs chances tonight. Drew gooden will probably have a big night agaisnt Eduardo Najera.

Najera is fine for about 8-10 minutes a game backing up Dirk. Honestly Haywood should be getting 30 minutes at center and Dampier the other 18.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 03:55 PM
This is the Official Los Mavs-Clips Game Blog


Hopefully the Mexican community in LA sees our players and buys some Los mav jerseys.

djohn2oo8
03-23-2010, 03:56 PM
Texas Shithead Republican Governor:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/governor-rick-perry.jpg

:lmao

badfish22
03-23-2010, 03:57 PM
Najera is fine for about 8-10 minutes a game backing up Dirk. Honestly Haywood should be getting 30 minutes at center and Dampier the other 18.

Haywood isn't Hispanic tbh. We're Los Mavs.

Findog
03-23-2010, 04:01 PM
Haywood isn't Hispanic tbh. We're Los Mavs.


And why isn't Stevenson getting some minutes? He's useful for 15-20 minutes a game guarding the other team's best wing player.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 04:03 PM
I expect JJ to be searching for his car keys tonight. And Najera to play defense like he has just been accused of murder in a really bad soap opera.

mavs>spurs2
03-23-2010, 04:03 PM
And why isn't Stevenson getting some minutes? He's useful for 15-20 minutes a game guarding the other team's best wing player.

yup tbh. stevenson on the court > barea being on the court. i dont care if we got him running fuckin point

Findog
03-23-2010, 04:10 PM
Mavs playoff rotation should be as follows:

C: Haywood - 32, Dampier - 16
PF: Dirk - 42, Najera - 6
SF: Marion - 28, Butler - 22
SG: Butler - 14, Terry - 25, Stevenson - 9
PG: Kidd - 38, Terry - 10

clambake
03-23-2010, 04:27 PM
Mavs playoff rotation should be as follows:

C: Haywood - 32, Dampier - 16
PF: Dirk - 42, Najera - 6
SF: Marion - 28, Butler - 22
SG: Butler - 14, Terry - 25, Stevenson - 9
PG: Kidd - 38, Terry - 10

come on coach, can't you put roddy in there anywhere?

Findog
03-23-2010, 04:55 PM
come on coach, can't you put roddy in there anywhere?

I guess you can give the backup PG minutes to him, but then that cuts into minutes for Butler/Stevenson.

Jacob1983
03-23-2010, 05:49 PM
I think this is a must win for the Mavs. The Spurs are playing really good right now so the pressure is on the Mavs to win. If the Mavs can't beat the Clippers in Dallas, then I would have some doubts about them in the playoffs. They need to man up and not pussy out tonight against the Clippers.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:00 PM
Or you could just cut more of Terry's minutes :tu
cuts the minutes of the steadiest shooter you've got on roster? what retarded logic this is...

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:03 PM
btw imho this should be the playoff rotation

C: Haywood - 36, Dampier - 12
PF: Nowitzki - 42, Marion - 6
SF: Marion - 32, Butler - 16
SG: Butler - 24, Terry - 24
PG: Kidd - 40, Roddy - 8
which requires the premise that everyone stays or returns healthy come playoffs. Get a mirror to take a look at how retarded you are while having a thorough review on the past games to check how many of them they played fully healthy.

oh crap
03-23-2010, 06:05 PM
indeed. a life without nachos is not one worth living.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:06 PM
lol wut? i know your chinese to english translator isn't perfect, but i'm pretty sure you mean "streakiest" and not steadiest. And Terry is worthless if he scores 20 at one end and gives up 30 at the other.
JET only gives up 30 when confronting the true freaks like Kobe who has to be given the monster points anyways. you are nuts if you think JET plays worse defense than JJ midget Barea.

D-Wade #3
03-23-2010, 06:07 PM
lol, The Mavs and Nachos have one thing in common, they both crack under pressure

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:09 PM
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WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:11 PM
噴氣機比jj打更好的防禦,但是他仍然吮驢球在防禦。
even some true cunts like allanon once made you look like a whining clown. you're only capitulating by doing this you scummy fucking loser.

DesignatedT
03-23-2010, 06:11 PM
whatburger>in n out

oh crap
03-23-2010, 06:12 PM
fuck whataburger

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:15 PM
IMO even if Terry is off on his jumper, he runs the two-man game so well with Dirk that you have to have him in there in crunch time. It opens up the floor and gets Dirk easier looks.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:16 PM
大聲笑
http://translate.google.com./?hl=en&tab=wT#

21_Blessings
03-23-2010, 06:16 PM
California Shithead Republican Governor:



At least our Shithead Liberal-Republican Governor is pro Cannabis yo.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID19726/images/california_marijuana_governor_arnold_schwarzenegge r.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:18 PM
At least our Shithead Liberal-Republican Governor is pro Cannabis yo.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID19726/images/california_marijuana_governor_arnold_schwarzenegge r.jpg

No disagreement there. Perry is a fuckhead.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:18 PM
IMO even if Terry is off on his jumper, he runs the two-man game so well with Dirk that you have to have him in there in crunch time. It opens up the floor and gets Dirk easier looks.
:tu

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:21 PM
meh. with the lazy passes Terry has been throwing lately I'd rather he not. Honestly, Marion in crunch time is a way better option imho. We live and die on Dirk's jumper, so we might as well have another rebounder in there in case he misses. Butler is supposed to be the 2nd option if Dirk can't get a shot, anyways.

Marion is a situational role player at this point in his career.

I think Dallas' crunch-time lineup should be either

Big: Haywood-Dirk-Butler-Terry-Kidd

Small: Dirk-Marion-Butler-Terry-Kidd

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:27 PM
meh. with the lazy passes Terry has been throwing lately I'd rather he not. Honestly, Marion in crunch time is a way better option imho. We live and die on Dirk's jumper, so we might as well have another rebounder in there in case he misses. Butler is supposed to be the 2nd option if Dirk can't get a shot, anyways.
still you don't get a clue. Terry creates rooms for Dirk to launch jumpers because the opposing has to arrange defense on JET despite how good/bad he shoots. With Marion in/JET out, the opponents only need to prevent Marion from getting to the very limited zones where he can score, thence Dirk has to take on more pressure when jump shooting. Even if you set 4 rebounders along with Dirk it'd still be a tough job to get offensive rebounds anyways, especially during crunch minutes. You are a retard if you think they can play the ball this way - missing shots and retrying with rebounded balls. You cant live on offensive rebounds anyway, if you manage to miss a couple shots during crunch minutes you'll have to accept the loss.

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:28 PM
I think the exact same thing of Terry.

Marion still plays solid defense and rebounds. In crunch time, I'd rather have that than an undersized shooter who offers nothing but a streaky shot.

Dirk is getting the crunch time shots as it is, and if it's not Dirk then it's Butler. Sorry but I don't see Terry doing anything in crunch time but bricking shots that should have gone to Dirk/Butler and then playing no defense.


Dallas' offense breaks down frequently when they have to go iso-heavy. Teams respect Terry's shot and it opens up the floor for the other four guys even when he's not hitting. IMO, the odd man out in crunch time is either Haywood or Marion depending on the matchups and whether they want to go small and score (Dirk) or try and grind out a win with stops in the half court (Haywood).

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:33 PM
I think the exact same thing of Terry.

Marion still plays solid defense and rebounds. In crunch time, I'd rather have that than an undersized shooter who offers nothing but a streaky shot.

Dirk is getting the crunch time shots as it is, and if it's not Dirk then it's Butler. Sorry but I don't see Terry doing anything in crunch time but bricking shots that should have gone to Dirk/Butler and then playing no defense.
we aren't talking about JJB, are we? you would be nuts if you think JET was nothing but a shooter, such players can only find their slots at the end of Mavs bench like Matt Carroll but JET is now a pivot in rotation, which proves how wrong you fucking shithead are. You don't need JET to take the shots himself but he takes a share of the opposing defense pressure which is needed, you have to put him there as you're punting the game on shots.

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:34 PM
How do they get stops with an aging Kidd and Terry playing defense? Billups/Lawson/Smith will eat them alive in crunch time.


They got Haywood to clean up dribble penetration. I don't have a problem with Kidd checking Billups in the final five minutes of a playoff game. You think Ty Lawson is going to be on the floor in that scenario?

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:36 PM
巴特勒是應該的空位的方式霍華德沒有可能。考慮到防禦困境的球隊,我寧願發揮好關鍵時刻防守比 看飛機磚桿。
http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/DNV/DNV146/000801_0014_0008.jpg try some paperwork instead, dickhead.

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:36 PM
Not Lawson, but JR Smith sure as shit will be out there. You trust Jason Terry to check him? :lol Let's just give the series to Denver right now then.

JR Smith - the guy with no bball IQ and the potential to shoot a team in and out of a game? You trust him to guard the Dirk-Terry p'n'r?

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:39 PM
Not Lawson, but JR Smith sure as shit will be out there. You trust Jason Terry to check him? :lol Let's just give the series to Denver right now then.
I have to admit to the crystal truth JET sucks defending some certain types of players, which whereas doesn't mean he doesn't play good defense in general. George Carl just recognized JET's shorter stave and managed to pounce on it by treating him with a SG he's sick of.

VBM
03-23-2010, 06:44 PM
WHATABURGER:

http://www.degeneratepress.com/travel/texas_2005/images/whataburger_burger.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk196/PBSnipes/win.jpg

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:47 PM
I'm not opposed to having Marion out there in crunch time, but your top six players are Dirk-Kidd-Butler-Haywood-Terry-Marion. Based on matchups, I think the odd man out is either Marion or Haywood.

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:48 PM
btw "pick and roll" implies that Dirk would actually go to the hole after setting a pick. We all know he won't do that.

let's call it the "pick and stand waiting for the ball to run the high post iso you were going to run anyways".

Call it the two-man game then, a play they've run for 5 years and is one of the big reason they've won 70% of games decided by 5 points or less in that span.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:52 PM
Why? Explain how Terry's one discernible skill of "making shots sometimes" beats Marion's skills of "defense, rebounding, and making shots sometimes"?
Marion only makes shorts where he gets rebounds, while he turns dumb immediately situated in a position where JET/Dirk/Butler shoot the ball. Marion's shot doesn't do shit helping mitigate the opposing defense.

Rick Carlisle
03-23-2010, 06:53 PM
Not sure what this whole debate is for, especially all the haywood chatter. I've already established my ending lineup of Kidd/Terry/Butler/Dirk/ Eduardo "El Rayo" Najera. JJ will play over Butler if he is shooting over 40% OR I want to unleash my genius zone defense.

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:55 PM
Why? Explain how Terry's one discernible skill of "making shots sometimes" beats Marion's skills of "defense, rebounding, and making shots sometimes"?

Terry can create his shot, Marion can't. Terry helps spread the floor for Dirk because teams have to respect him, Marion can't. If Marion's defense is needed out there so badly because of a wing on the other team, you can pull either Haywood, Butler or Terry. This isn't Marion versus Terry, it's one five-man unit versus another.

I think their best five-man crunch time units are the following:

Haywood-Dirk-Butler-Terry-Kidd
Dirk-Marion-Butler-Terry-Kidd
Haywood-Dirk-Marion-Butler-Kidd

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Los Angeles:

http://thesoniashow.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/562411329_ccfb14c6fe1.jpg



Dallas:

http://www.degeneratepress.com/travel/texas_2005/images/whataburger_burger.jpg


Phoenix has both, and whataburger shouldn't even be compared to In-n-Out.

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:57 PM
And you're telling me Kidd can't do exactly that?

No, he can't. Kidd is awesome shooting the 3-ball when his defender cheats off of him to shadow Dirk in the low post. But playing the pick and pop game with Dirk? No way.


Or Butler? Hell, Butler might actually use the pick to get a lane to the bucket, Lord knows Jason Terry won't try anything so rash and aggressive.


From what I've seen of Butler so far, he works best getting the ball iso'd in space. Maybe after a training camp together, he and Dirk will develop some two-man chemistry, but I'm not seeing it now.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 06:57 PM
And you're telling me Kidd can't do exactly that? Or Butler? Hell, Butler might actually use the pick to get a lane to the bucket, Lord knows Jason Terry won't try anything so rash and aggressive.
Mavs have never built a squad orientated to paint. Because you don't have a quality scoring center you have to face extremely tough defense in paint, which makes it almost impossible to score there in half-court offense. Mavs can only achieve a couple paint scores in fast breaks and all. You'd be nuts if you think Haywood is such a center that scores inside.

Findog
03-23-2010, 06:58 PM
Phoenix has both, and whataburger shouldn't even be compared to In-n-Out.

W'burger is really the closest we have, chain-wise, to compete with In'N'Out. I've had a better burger in Texas than what you get at In'N'Out, but it's not a chain.

But agreed, In'N'Out > Whataburger. Don't hate on the Whataburger though.

IronMexican
03-23-2010, 06:59 PM
I am Vegetarian now, brahs. No more In-N-Out.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:00 PM
Kidd doesn't spread the floor?

No. As a spot-up shooter he has to be respected when teams slack off of him to help on Dirk, but if you force him to put the ball on the floor or chase him off the 3-pt line, he's not much of a threat to score.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 07:00 PM
I am Vegetarian now


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IronMexican
03-23-2010, 07:01 PM
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It's da troof, brah. Thom Yorke is vegan and he's so dreamy.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:02 PM
And btw, as far as Butler goes, every single one of my preferred five-man units has him in it, so you can stop asking me about Butler, because he'll be in there.

oh crap
03-23-2010, 07:03 PM
I am Vegetarian now, brahs. No more In-N-Out.

damn, brah. that's the equivalent of having your balls chopped off.

IronMexican
03-23-2010, 07:06 PM
damn, brah. that's the equivalent of having your balls chopped off.

Brah, I'm not a hippie or anything. It's not like I'll be going to Rally events protesting people who try and nuke our imagination. It's just a healthier life style.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:08 PM
um, that's spreading the floor.

Not really. He's strictly a spot-up shooter from behind the arc. He can't create his shot. Terry can spot up or put the ball on the floor. So can Butler. So can Dirk. Kidd can't play the two-man game with Dirk like that because teams will funnel him to a certain spot (like mid-range where he throws up nothing but bricks).

Like I said, it's not Terry vs Marion, or Terry vs Butler, or Terry vs Kidd, it's about five-man units, and I think in most instances the odd man out will be either Marion or Haywood.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 07:08 PM
My 2 cents on this Terry vs. Marion closing lineup debate, there's no clearcut answer as to who is clearly the better candidate. What can be taken away from the fact you're arguing about which one dimensional player should close the game is that Dallas is still a complete 2-guard who contributes on both ends of the court away from being a real contender.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:09 PM
My 2 cents on this Terry vs. Marion closing lineup debate, there's no clearcut answer as to who is clearly the better candidate, and what can be taken away from it is that Dallas is still a complete 2-guard who contributes on both ends of the court away from being a real contender.

:tu

Yep, all of this is glossing over that fact.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 07:11 PM
My 2 cents on this Terry vs. Marion closing lineup debate, there's no clearcut answer as to who is clearly the better candidate. What can be taken away from the fact you're arguing about which one dimensional player should close the game is that Dallas is still a complete 2-guard who contributes on both ends of the court away from being a real contender.

Dampier for Iggy in the offseason BOOK IT :)

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:11 PM
unfortunately I'm sure Carlisle agrees with you. I look forward to getting curbstomped by Denver (assuming OKC or Phoenix or Portland doesn't get the job done first).

Dallas would beat the Zombies or Portland. Phoenix is a real threat to upset Dallas in the first round, and honestly, I don't think it matters which of those three five-man units the Mavs go with in crunch time, Denver is just better.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 07:13 PM
Dampier for Iggy in the offseason BOOK IT :)


That, or if he's willing to take the MLE they should sign Ginobili. It'd be ironic as hell after all the arguments involving Mavfan and Manu, but he'd be a good fit for them.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 07:14 PM
unfortunately I'm sure Carlisle agrees with you. I look forward to getting curbstomped by Denver (assuming OKC or Phoenix or Portland doesn't get the job done first).
it's not what can be redirected by the power of Marion or Haywood though. Mavs are built to suck against tough teams and they are fatefully going to get curbstomped anyway. what are you arguing about then?

IronMexican
03-23-2010, 07:16 PM
That, or if he's willing to take the MLE they should sign Ginobili. It'd be ironic as hell after all the arguments involving Mavfan and Manu, but he'd be a good fit for them.

DAF wouldn't even have to find a new forum.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:17 PM
The other thing you have to keep in mind is that coaches have to be flexible. It's not a paint by numbers exercise. If Terry is on fucking fire and hitting everything, do you think he's coming out of the game when it goes down to the wire? If Marion is making life miserable for Carmelo and inducing him into shooting 4 for 15 from the floor, do you think he's coming out?

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:18 PM
Oh I don't think so at all. Roy/Miller have already shown their dominance over Kidd/Terry. Russell Westbrook makes Kidd look like he's 47. And it doesn't matter if Harden is a rookie, he'll still get his points if Terry is guarding him. I'm pretty sure I could go out there and drop 15+ on Jason Terry. He is seriously getting comically bad on defense.

No way the Zombies beat us in a series. If it were just based on talent and skill, they should've beaten the Spurs last night.

WESTACKED
03-23-2010, 07:20 PM
Oh I don't think so at all. Roy/Miller have already shown their dominance over Kidd/Terry. Russell Westbrook makes Kidd look like he's 47. And it doesn't matter if Harden is a rookie, he'll still get his points if Terry is guarding him. I'm pretty sure I could go out there and drop 15+ on Jason Terry. He is seriously getting comically bad on defense.
I would never say this unless I've found an answer to Dirk on behalf of the opposing team. you are only spotting the areas where Blazers are better than Mavs, totally ignoring all these disadvantages can be well made up for by Dirk's dominance over the shitty likes including Aldridge etc., you would be nuts if you think Aldridge would give Dirk a bit more tough defense than Kidd/JET would possibly get from Miller/Roy.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 07:20 PM
I think of the 5-8 teams the Zombies would actually have the best shot. They have a PG who can put pressure on, they're the best of those teams defensively, and arguably would have the advantage of having the best player on the court.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 07:22 PM
He'd come on the team and the Mavs would win a title, and every Argentina Nazi Sympathizer on this site would say Manu won the ring for Dallas.


:lol good point

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 07:22 PM
If the boys lose tonight

http://myhatertots.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/panic-button.jpg

DPG21920
03-23-2010, 07:23 PM
If the boys lose tonight

http://myhatertots.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/panic-button.jpg

What a knee jerk reaction. They are the same team they were during the win streak. Win or lose.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:24 PM
I think of the 5-8 teams the Zombies would actually have the best shot. They have a PG who can put pressure on, they're the best of those teams defensively, and arguably would have the advantage of having the best player on the court.

They're also a team that is prone to shooting themselves in the foot by their second-year PG stepping on the in-line when attempting to inbound the ball at the end of games, or freeing up Thabo Seefalosha for a game-winning shot instead of Kevin Durant. Dallas is a veteran team that has been through the playoff wars, the Zombies haven't.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 07:25 PM
What a knee jerk reaction. They are the same team they were during the win streak. Win or lose.

We must get the 2 seed... the margin for error is small considering the eggs laid against the Knicks and 121-63.

DPG21920
03-23-2010, 07:26 PM
They're also a team that is prone to shooting themselves in the foot by their second-year PG stepping on the in-line when attempting to inbound the ball at the end of games, or freeing up Thabo Seefalosha for a game-winning shot instead of Kevin Durant. Dallas is a veteran team that has been through the playoff wars, the Zombies haven't.

I would not call one mistake like that "prone". They have played pretty damn well.

That is like saying the Mavs aren't that great and were prone to mistakes because Howard called a timeout they did not have.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:29 PM
I would not call one mistake like that "prone". They have played pretty damn well.

That is like saying the Mavs aren't that great and were prone to mistakes because Howard called a timeout they did not have.

I'm just saying it doesn't surprise me one bit that the Spurs pulled that game out when on talent and athleticism alone, the Zombies are decisively better.

There are exceptions, since the Mavs beat the Jazz in 2001, but I trust a veteran team over a young, inexperienced one.

stretch
03-23-2010, 07:34 PM
just heard word that Dampier will get the start tonight over Haywood

oh crap
03-23-2010, 07:36 PM
No way the Zombies beat us in a series. If it were just based on talent and skill, they should've beaten the Spurs last night.

they almost did, and that's with the spurs playing great basketball right now. i wouldn't sleep on this young group.

stretch
03-23-2010, 07:36 PM
in a way i dont have a problem with damp starting, because he knows the system better, and his style fits better with the starting lineup. plus he actually knows how to fucking box out for rebounds.

i like energy coming off the bench, and haywood does just that

DPG21920
03-23-2010, 07:41 PM
Damp should be getting more minutes somehow imo.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 07:45 PM
What exactly is the deal with the final year on Damp's contract? Is it Dallas' decision to pick it up or not? Are they going to so they can trade it, or are they gonna let it come off the books?

SpursRulez4eVeR
03-23-2010, 07:50 PM
didn't know diaper is such a bad O player

Xylus
03-23-2010, 07:54 PM
The Mavs are going to blow this game wide open in the 3rd quarter. No chance for the Clips tonight.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:55 PM
What exactly is the deal with the final year on Damp's contract? Is it Dallas' decision to pick it up or not? Are they going to so they can trade it, or are they gonna let it come off the books?

It's not guaranteed. He has to average 30 mpg or make the All Star team. Since neither of those things are going to happen, they can simply decline to pick up the option, creating instant $13 million worth of cap space to whoever holds his contract in August.

Findog
03-23-2010, 07:56 PM
Anybody got a stream?

http://www.atdhe.net/15770/watch-los-angeles-clippers-vs-dallas-mavericks

aint working

SAtown
03-23-2010, 07:58 PM
/\/\ hmm, it's working for me. I had to refresh a shit load though



edit: nevermind lol. I jinxed it by saying that

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:03 PM
Goddamnit, it keeps cutting in and out.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:05 PM
Why not play Marion at PF and put Stevenson in?

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 08:05 PM
crofl najera

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:07 PM
Great moves by Matrix, good pass by Jet

Xylus
03-23-2010, 08:08 PM
God damn the Clippers are so awful. 1-9 in their last 10...

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:09 PM
Finally in

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:14 PM
For every good move jj makes he makes a bad one or two. The last few possesions showed that.

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:15 PM
For every good move jj makes he makes a bad one or two. The last few possesions showed that.

I kinda like Haywood against second units.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:18 PM
I kinda like Haywood against second units.

Just about to say the same thing. Carlisle finally made a good decision. Damp is better as a starter as well.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:19 PM
God damn Haywood is fucking beasting.

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Just about to say the same thing. Carlisle finally made a good decision. Damp is better as a starter as well.

Of course, it's the Clippers. The Clippers are the cure for what ails a struggling team.

21_Blessings
03-23-2010, 08:22 PM
It's just a healthier life style.

No, actually it isn't.

Just cut out the transfat/high fructose corn syrup garbage and a good ole 40/40/20 is much healthier than going pure vegan.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:26 PM
Damn carlisle you shithead why are you playing JJ at SG? This is where Stevenson or Roddy could play. Rick is such a fuckstick.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:27 PM
And the clippers are back in the game. Yep go ahead and call a timeout you dumbfuck.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:36 PM
Dirk.

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:36 PM
Closed the first-half strong. :tu

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:37 PM
Be sure not to go anywhere for halftime, since Followil and Ortegal are going to announce who Jason Kidd thinks is the worst dresser on the Mavs. That's worth giving up the chance to rub one out.

monosylab1k
03-23-2010, 08:40 PM
Just about to say the same thing. Carlisle finally made a good decision. Damp is better as a starter as well.

imo this is just more carlisle stubbornness. even after the trade, he was reluctant to give damp's starting job away, and he was reluctant to state the obvious that haywood was a better player.

i think from the beginning he was going to get dampier back in the starting spot as soon as he was capable, just because of his own preconceived notions about Damp and Haywood.

Just like the whole Barea/Roddy debate where it's painfully obvious to everyone but Carlisle that Roddy is better. Rick can be a very flexible coach tbh, but in some ways he's just as much a stubborn horse's ass as Avery.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:45 PM
Maybe, but I like it. His screens are much better than Haywoods and they help get the shooters started well. Haywood better finish though.

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:51 PM
Nice shot of some blond trim in the lower bowl cocaine and boob job level.

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:58 PM
Well fuck, we'll probably lose this game.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 08:59 PM
I love how when butler makes a mistake, carisle is some hardass coach. But JJ do whatever the fuck he wants with no penalty.

Findog
03-23-2010, 08:59 PM
I can't believe that

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:00 PM
No Dirk, No Chance

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:00 PM
WTF. How the hell did he get ejected for that. Bullshit call.

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:01 PM
WTF. How the hell did he get ejected for that. Bullshit call.

No idea. At least Denver is losing to NY.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:07 PM
This team looks shocked. This is when a smart coach would put Roddy in for a jolt of energy.

picc84
03-23-2010, 09:08 PM
I love how when anyone else on the team makes a mistake, Jackson is some hardass coach. But Fisher do whatever the fuck he wants with no penalty.

I know how you feel.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:10 PM
Lmao Denver

djohn2oo8
03-23-2010, 09:11 PM
Drew Gooden with 20 points??? lmao

monosylab1k
03-23-2010, 09:13 PM
Time to put on the big boy pants, Caron. You're not playing for some two bit shitty franchise anymore. Act like it.

monosylab1k
03-23-2010, 09:14 PM
Hey Terry, you don't have to jack up a shot EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU TOUCH THE GODDAMN BALL

monosylab1k
03-23-2010, 09:14 PM
Hey Haywood, boxing out is a good idea! :tu try it!

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:15 PM
I'm still amazed that in the space of 3 minutes this went from an easy W to a probable L.

djohn2oo8
03-23-2010, 09:15 PM
I'm still amazed that in the space of 3 minutes this went from an easy W to a probable L.

:lmao

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:16 PM
Thank you Rick. Let's do this shit mothafucka!

monosylab1k
03-23-2010, 09:16 PM
Roddy comes in, team gets a spark. What a shock.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:17 PM
damn get the rebound.

monosylab1k
03-23-2010, 09:18 PM
someone tell Caron Butler to pull his head out of his ass.

monosylab1k
03-23-2010, 09:18 PM
Haywoode Workman has money on the Clippers.

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:19 PM
I hate to go to this well, but the refs are really out to get us tonight for some reason.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:19 PM
:lmao these refs are going 2006 on us

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:21 PM
When press suit Followill is critizing the refs, you know it's bad.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:22 PM
I can't believe we keep this on the bench.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:22 PM
what was kidd doing on that fast break..

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:26 PM
this teams too trash to use the dirk ejection excuse. we still have superior horses to the clippers.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:26 PM
Beaubois!!!

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:27 PM
Roddy doing him.

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:27 PM
Well well...Mavs showing some fight.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:27 PM
nice start to the 4th fellas

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:28 PM
does anyone buy the excuse that Beaubois's PT is limited because Barea is a better "PG" than Roddy? just something ive heard other people hover around. He looks his best alongside kidd.

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:28 PM
Hey fellas, if Dirk's unjust ejection isn't motivation enough to get the W, Denver lost to New York.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:28 PM
How did Goodens dumbass not see that coming :lol

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:30 PM
that 3 pt shot is SO FUCKIN FLUKY

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:30 PM
Jason Kiiiiiiiiidd! FOR THREE

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:30 PM
Davis banking in that three sent me into shell shock.

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:31 PM
that 3 pt shot is SO FUCKIN FLUKY

Except when he plays the Mavs.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 09:32 PM
:clap

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:32 PM
How is it not fucking obvious that Beaubois deserves regular rotation minutes?????

FUCK.

Barea should be strictly garbage time. Matt Carroll deserves minutes over JJB.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:33 PM
This team looks shocked. This is when a smart coach would put Roddy in for a jolt of energy.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:34 PM
Rick is just a stubborn jack ass.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:37 PM
Kidd just knows how to turn his offense on when needed.

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:37 PM
goddamn

Findog
03-23-2010, 09:38 PM
Only points Clippers have in the 4th is that crazy bank-shot three by Baron Davis.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:38 PM
I'm sick of butlers step back j. Take it to the basket.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 09:44 PM
Mav fans, just know that this will be sitting on the bench come playoff time. So while JJ is getting embarresed by the nuggs just remember what Roddy can do. It's gonna blow.

lurker
03-23-2010, 09:48 PM
Maybe we'll get lucky and Gargamel will finally destroy JJ.

Findog
03-23-2010, 10:00 PM
God, that was harder than it had to be.

Ghazi
03-23-2010, 10:06 PM
dumb question. but if the mavs win division are they assured a top 3 seed or is that an old rule?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
03-23-2010, 10:08 PM
They are assured a top 4 seed. The 3 division winners and then the team with the next best record after that are awarded top 4 seeds and ordered strictly based off record.

Findog
03-23-2010, 10:08 PM
dumb question. but if the mavs win division are they assured a top 3 seed or is that an old rule?

they are only assured a top four seed. And if the fifth seed has a better record, then they won't have HCA in the 4-5 matchup.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 10:08 PM
Great news that the Nuggs lost. Tied for the 2nd seed and the Nuggs have to play in Boston tomorrow.

badfish22
03-23-2010, 10:54 PM
"Bill, that's a two-hand push!" Dirk hollered after getting whistled for hacking Gooden.
The ref screamed, "Bam! Right there!'' and pointed at Nowitzki for the first technical foul.


:lmao what a dick

Ghazi
03-24-2010, 03:25 AM
"That was a bad decision by Dirk," Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. "It puts the team in a terrible situation, and he knows it was wrong. If you get a technical, you get one and make your point, then you've got to let it go. He's too important to us."

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5023144


Does anyone find that a little... lame?

coach-superstar disunity!!!! :cry

Gary Neville
03-25-2010, 10:43 AM
"That was a bad decision by Dirk," Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. "It puts the team in a terrible situation, and he knows it was wrong. If you get a technical, you get one and make your point, then you've got to let it go. He's too important to us."

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5023144


Does anyone find that a little... lame?

coach-superstar disunity!!!! :cry
It's more like Carlisle spotting and magnifying the mistake of his players in order to hush up the poor decisions of his own. Mavs players are jolly good, which I have to admit, but I don't believe they're going to win anything in the foreseeable as long as they are dictated by the triumvirate of Cuban, Donnie and Carlisle instead of the players who have brains.