Tim Duncan is no longer a warrior

[gospursgojas]

He doesn't look like he's trying, nor cares.

He'll give you 18 pts a game, but no longer can take over a game physically. And his demeanor doesn't help matters.

No matter how well manu or tony play, or how great the upside is on Hill or Blair, if Tim is done...the spurs are done

I just wish there was more fire that's all

[Spurs Brazil]

Respect the MVP

He's figthing but things aren't working

[gospursgojas]

Respect the MVP

He's figthing but things aren't working

I love tim, but honestly...ask yourself.

Is he fighting?

[tothrowed]

malik is the answer

[slick'81]

hes a warrior just getting up there in age not what he once was atleast not right now anyway

[Spurs Brazil]

I love tim, but honestly...ask yourself.

Is he fighting?

Yes he is

[murpjf88]

Typical bullshit thread after a loss. Bunch of simpletons.

[ducks]

Yes he is

what tv are you watching

no yelling no emotion

[ShoogarBear]

There's obviously something wrong with him.

[Spurs Brazil]

what tv are you watching

no yelling no emotion

Only a stupid one like you would think Tim Duncan doesn't care. He's giving a 100% but his body is not responding

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

he got no elevation on his shoots at all...

[HarlemHeat37]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

[mingus]

Tim is a 3rd fiddle. at this point it's Parker, Manu, then Tim.

the Spurs are essentially missing their best player (when he's healthy). the drought that happened tonight wouldn't have happened if Tony were in there.

i'm still confident that w/ Parker this team has still got a shot at a title.

[mexicanjunior]

Too bad it is so late in the season...could have gotten him some help in the draft had we let him recharge the batteries the last 2 months of the season on the bench.

[DPG21920]

You might be the worst normal poster. Fickle fan base.

[roycrikside]

Once again, Pau completely had him for lunch when it mattered. Spurs double Gasol, Pau plays Duncan one-on-one and shuts him down.

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

:toast

Only a BIG STUPID Spurs fan would think TD doesn't care

Those are not true Spurs fans

[benefactor]

He has nothing left physically. It's not that complicated to figure out.

[Sisk]

Meltdownnnnnnnnnnnnn

[anakha]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..

You're only figuring this out now?

[gospursgojas]

I guess richard jefferson had a good game too.

[Russ]

You can't say it till he falters (some year) in the playoffs.

[benefactor]

I'm a fucking idiot.

[ShoogarBear]

http://www.kiwimania.net/image-files/oncewerewarriors2.jpg

[DPG21920]

I guess richard jefferson had a good game too.

Who is saying Tim had a good game? What we are saying is that you suck.

[gospursgojas]

Typical spurs fans calling out typical spurs fan's faith to the team

Typical spurs fans calling typical spurs fans for being disapointed after a loss and calling t a meltdown

Typical

[DesignatedT]

please.... Duncan carried this team the first half of this season... now Manu knows how it feels like to carry a team.... boo fucking hoo, welcome to duncans life

is just as much manus fault then it is tims then it is tonys.

[UnWantedTheory]

Eh, he isnt the entire problem. He hasnt played great lately but....Our rotations suck, our D lacks in key moments, and as a team we are weak in the mind...especially in crunch time(4th quarter). We can not overcome any adversity at all. Also a new year with alot of new players in PoPs system. Add everything above and PoP's terrible coaching and the teams terrible chemistry and shooting...well that = our year. It is obvious we lack size, and our players our out of it, and weak in key moments, but we actually compete and are in almost every game. I think with a key piece or two, next year we will be a more legitament threat. Well, I hope anyways.

[21_Blessings]

I was literally cringing everytime Timmy touched the ball. He looked terrible out there and could barely run back down the court.

The Lakers officially decapitated the Duncan era in 2008.

[benefactor]

Typical spurs fans calling out typical spurs fan's faith to the team

Typical spurs fans calling typical spurs fans for being disapointed after a loss and calling t a meltdown

Typical

I'm a fucking idiot.

[DPG21920]

Typical spurs fans calling out typical spurs fan's faith to the team

Typical spurs fans calling typical spurs fans for being disapointed after a loss and calling t a meltdown

Typical

Typical ridiculous spurs fan.

Typical no perspective.

Typical couldn't be further from reality.

[timtonymanu]

Tim Duncan doesnt care? What the fuck. When Pop surrounds him with a washed up player, a pussy 3 pt shooter, and an undersized center, it will wear him out. Tim and Manu are the two biggest winners on the team. Tim cares, he's just getting old.

[benefactor]

I was literally cringing everytime Timmy touched the ball. He looked terrible out there and could barely run back down the court.

The Lakers officially decapitated the Duncan era in 2008.
The Spurs closed down the The Forum, so I guess one good decapitation deserves another.

[gospursgojas]

Who is saying Tim had a good game? What we are saying is that you suck.

Nice rebuttal to my thread.

Please visit the troll forum if all you wanna do is call people names like a child.

I said tim doesn't have it in him anymore to take over games and doesn't look like he cares.

If you don't agree come up with something better to say. Prove me wrong...hell I hope I'm wrong I hope tim proves me wrong

[J_Paco]

It was really tough to see Timmy play so poorly especially against Pau Gasol's soft ass. This is what happens when the organization doesn't give Tim adequate help, he'll eventually breakdown every March, April and May.

[DPG21920]

Nice rebuttal to my thread.

Please visit the troll forum if all you wanna do is call people names like a child.

I said tim doesn't have it in him anymore to take over games and doesn't look like he cares.

If you don't agree come up with something better to say. Prove me wrong...hell I hope I'm wrong I hope time proves me wrong

Shut up.

[mexicanjunior]

Tim cares...just doesn't have anything left. It's sad really, having to carry the load up until the All-Star break ruined him for the 2nd year in a row. I'll look forward to seeing his HOF speech in 8 years, it is probably the last highlight he has left in his career.

[StoneBuddha]

Lame thread. Age catches up with us all- it's a part of life. Just let Duncan age gracefully without stupid, inflammatory retoric.

[ploto]

When Dave was 32 years old, he got Tim Duncan. Whom did Tim get?

[benefactor]

Nice rebuttal to my thread.

Please visit the troll forum if all you wanna do is call people names like a child.

I said tim doesn't have it in him anymore to take over games and doesn't look like he cares.

If you don't agree come up with something better to say. Prove me wrong...hell I hope I'm wrong I hope tim proves me wrong

I'm a fucking idiot.

[jdev82]

i think tims a warrior, but has chosen to live to fight another day

[Man In Black]

Lots of minutes played these past few games including an overtime and a game time change. He definitely needs rest time between games.

[Mikesatx]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

God help this franchise when Duncan and Ginobili are gone.

[Blackjack]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

While I won't go as far as saying the Spurs' fan base is the most ignorant there is, for ignorance is found wherever there is fanaticism or a rooting interest, these threads aren't a good look . . .

Tim is literally gassed. I don't know how else to put it.

They were down three with the ball at around the 7-minute mark and I knew it was over then. The team was dead-legged, floundering and a timeout was called; the body language of Tim was one of the most depressing sights I've seen in a while. He didn't even look like he'd be able to return.

The fact that Tim's still out there busting his ass in the paint doing everything in his power to hold off younger, more physically fit players, all while having to get out on the floor setting screens and battling on the offensive glass, to say nothing of the offensive burden he's forced to carry, shows just the type of character and warrior he has and is; show me a player with similar knee problems, mileage, age and team responsibilities that's done better.

So with all due respect . . .

STFU, GTFO and SMD. :)

[TJastal]

Tim cares, but Pop hasn't done anything to help him the paint this year (well technically he did by signing Ratliff but that was just a tease signing) and he's clearly been in a funk since Pop has started force feeding Bonner 20+ minutes a game. Ian Mahinmi has been 100% healthy all year long and has seen little more than a handful of garbage minutes with the exception of 1 game. If I was Tim Duncan I would rather retire than play another year under Greg Popovich.

[Russ]

The Spurs closed down the The Forum, so I guess one good decapitation deserves another.

And don't forget Staples -- Spurs were first to win a playoff series there other than the Lakers. :toast

[jag]

You might be the worst normal poster. Fickle fan base.

He's pretty bad

[TJastal]

This team would be so much better defensively if Ratliff and Mahinmi were getting Bonner's 20+ minutes a game. Our wing 3 point shooters like Mason would be getting enough looks every game to get into some kind of shooting rhythym. When Bonner is out there he literally takes 1/2 of the shots and he literally needs to shoot 45% from 3 in order to justify his lack of defense.

[gospursgojas]

You might be the worst normal poster. Fickle fan base.

Sooo not true....









No way I'm a normal poster

[boutons_deux]

I don't think Tim cares, at least not about this team, not about this season.

Maybe he's spoiled after so many seasons where the Spurs were contenders.

I think it's pretty shitty he's not having some pride and competing no matter what. It's $275K/game, the fans deserve better, even if there's no chance to get out of the first round. You go down fighting, not quitting.

[picc84]

I explicity remember Duncan playing like horseshit during the 08 season, and then the playoffs started and he magically started looking like a superstar again. Looked exactly the same as he does now.

[SnakeBoy]

I love tim, but honestly...ask yourself.

Is he fighting?

Yes he is fighting...Father Time. He's a tough one to beat.

[crc21209]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000 and then some....

[Avitus1]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

Couldn't have said it better then myself. Tim is the heart and soul of our team and has more then earned the respect of all the true Spurs fans.

[TJastal]

I think Duncan is just tired as fuck of Matt Boner being on the floor in crucial situations. What happened to Boner getting 10 mins a game MAX as a situational bench player that we all agreed was supposed to be his normal role on the team?

Pop has gone off the deep end w/ the Bonner love. Pop has him playing big minutes lately, last 4 games: 20,33,27,24. To hell with McDyess, Ratliff, Mahinmi .. guys that can actually help defend the paint, Pop has thrown the future into Matt Bonner's hands and Tim Duncan will be the first casualty followed by Manu (when he bolts out of town)

[gospursgojas]

Couldn't have said it better then myself. Tim is the heart and soul of our team and has more then earned the respect of all the true Spurs fans.

Really? No wonder they laid down in the 4th.

If that's what their heart and soul is then the result of this game is not surprising.

Never said tim doesn't deserve respect I just want him to show a lil fire. He's done it before.

[Sisk]

Typical spurs fans calling out typical spurs fan's faith to the team

Typical spurs fans calling typical spurs fans for being disapointed after a loss and calling t a meltdown

Typical

you are that fan.. it's annoying as fuck.. quit being a bitch after ONE game

duncan isn't a warrior? are you fucking serious? he's lost a stop because he's aging, but that has nothing to do with his mentality

the only TYPICAL thing here is some meltdown thread after a loss.. GTFO

[TampaDude]

Tired Timmy with little help...against the best team in the NBA...what the fuck did you all expect???

The Spurs are still a playoff team, but they are no longer the dominant championship contender they used to be. Those days are OVER, folks...deal with it.

Savor the :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: and the Dynasty Decade. It likely won't ever happen again.

[gospursgojas]

I think Duncan is just tired as fuck of Matt Boner being on the floor in crucial situations. What happened to Boner getting 10 mins a game MAX as a situational bench player that we all agreed was supposed to be his normal role on the team?

Pop has gone off the deep end w/ the Bonner love. Pop has him playing big minutes lately, last 4 games: 20,33,27,24. To hell with McDyess, Ratliff, Mahinmi .. guys that can actually help defend the paint, Pop has thrown the future into Matt Bonner's hands and Tim Duncan will be the first casualty followed by Manu (when he bolts out of town)

I agree. Pop yanks mason after one missed shot, but matt can brick 3 in a row and pop'll leave him in

[peskypesky]

Tim's still a warrior. No doubt. He's just on a not-so-great team. I think it's time for him to ask for a trade to a contender. i'd like to see him on the Nuggets.

[Doe]

Stupid thread. Out of anyone on the team, we should worry least about Timmay not giving effort. He can't do anything if his body is giving out on him, it happens to the best of them.

Also besides having to carry the load for half the season, look at who he's paired with and then compare that to big men on other elite teams.

[peskypesky]

just imagine, Billups, Carmelo, and Duncan as starters.

[Old School 44]

Much has been made about limiting Tim's minutes, resting him in back to backs etc...
That might be part of the equation, but the real problem is he needs some defensive help. Longer more athletic help. That's how you can REALLY rest/save Tim Duncan for the playoffs and late game situations. Keep him from exerting so much energy, particularly on the defensive end.

You always here commentators say about great offensive players, "make them work on defense". Defensively, Tim's playing in the post by himself and to compound the problem, without a true defensive stopper on the perimeter. When the opposing player gets past the first defender, Tim's expected to contest the shot and secure the rebound. It's just too much to ask in the latter stage of his career. That's why we're seeing so many offensive rebounds. That's partly why Gasol's eating Tim's lunch towards the end of games.

Get the man some defensive help! He deserves it.

[SenorSpur]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

:tu

Are we forgetting the 13-year run of greatness that has been Tim Duncan? What is transpiring with this team has NOTHING to do with Duncan. He simply needed better support. The FO vallantly, and desparately tried to provide that to him this offseason. They simply made the WRONG personnel decisions. Still, everyone should have the utmost admiration and appreciation for the contributions and success that Duncan has brought to the Spurs. It's now time to see if the FO can repay him the favor.

[gospursgojas]

you are that fan.. it's annoying as fuck.. quit being a bitch after ONE game

duncan isn't a warrior? are you fucking serious? he's lost a stop because he's aging, but that has nothing to do with his mentality

the only TYPICAL thing here is some meltdown thread after a loss.. GTFO

Great job at losing tonight guys! Everything is cool. I love you so I won't say anything negative ever. Win or lose, I'm just glad we won 4 'ships and I don't care if we ever win again bc I should be satisfied.

-true, non-typical, not-bandwagon, non-cliffjumping spur fan

[tothrowed]

rip spurs im just going to sit back and enjoy manu for the rest of the year cuz after that hes gone

[J_Paco]

Really? No wonder they laid down in the 4th.

If that's what their heart and soul is then the result of this game is not surprising.

Never said tim doesn't deserve respect I just want him to show a lil fire. He's done it before.

It's hard to have "fire" or intensity when you've played a combined 70+ minutes the two games prior. Plus, your idiot coach won't pair anyone other than McDyess or Bonner with you. He's running on empty right now, and the team cannot afford to rest him.

[Chomag]

Don't question Tim. Question the FO for again making him the only one out there to hold down the fort. Be it a stupid coach or whatever else he gave Tim no support down low. Tim is just banged on all game long.

Turn the page.

[Manu-of-steel]

:toast

Only a BIG STUPID Spurs fan would think TD doesn't care

Those are not true Spurs fans

TD has never been a "warrior", he's always been a spur! LOL!

[Spursox]

I don't know who's game has worsened Timmy's or Shaq...

[DesignatedT]

I don't know who's game has worsened Timmy's or Shaq...

thats a joke right? if not then gtfo here

[Rito3d30]

He has stopped staying at the lost post and wait for the ball
but coming out to set screen and other stuffs almost every single time
that should be done by Dice and Bonner
There's definately something wrong about him

[J_Paco]

I don't know who's game has worsened Timmy's or Shaq...

You sir are an idiot.

[gospursgojas]

It's hard to have "fire" or intensity when you've played a combined 70+ minutes the two games prior. Plus, your idiot coach won't pair anyone other than McDyess or Bonner with you. He's running on empty right now, and the team cannot afford to rest him.

This I do agree with. If tim is pissed about his shitty counter-parts therfore its hard for him to come up with the fire needed to take over a game, I understand.

Thank you for shedding some light on the situation rather than just blurting out idiot or stfu like the true fans here. Oh how I with I was as truey as them and all their trueness

[Manu-of-steel]

No one can question Timmy's heart and desire to win for the spurs' cause! He's given us his all. This game tonight showed that he might not have that stamina or athleticism when he was younger, but i would never say he no longer cares. That's simply moronic.

[birdy219]

Timmy just didn't help offensively. He did everything else extremely well. He also held gasol to 10 pts. He just didn't have legs for scoring and he settled for too many jumpers. But I will take this type of defensive effort every day for Timmy. Pop just got b-slapped by phil like he always does.

Phil played 3 of his starters over 40 minutes while Manu only played 33 min.:depressed

The moment he took out Manu and replaced him with RJ and not Blair, I knew that it was over. Despite what all their fans say, they have NO answer whatsoever for Manu.:king I also thought that he did a good job on kobe. Pop should never double team kobe unless it is a game winning shot and their Wide open 3 pt. shooters hit their shots or got another chance with an offensive rebound. Blair only played 10 and he had 5 pts and 6 rebounds which was more that mcdice. :bang
Even though mason and bonner missed a few wide open 3's; I like the fact that they competed which brings me to RJ...too depressed to write about his effort tonight.:(
Timmy is a warrior; I just think that he is playing with pain more than any of us realize. He has had no lift on his jumpers since Jan. Pop needs to sit him one of the games against an easier opponent. In times like these, we really miss Tony. The lakers were in the penalty at 7 min. and no one went to the line. This loss hurts because it was the lakers, but I was proud of the way most of the team showed heart.

I think that the way the fakers celebrated that win tells us of the importance of it to them. You would think that it was sending them to the finals or something. They didn't even celebrate like that when they were sent to the finals. Artest played great defense, but for God's sake act like you won a regular season game before....GEEZ. :whine
Have you ever send the Spurs act like that before?

This lost hurt, but there are other losses this year that were FAR worse than this one.

:flag:

[Killakobe81]

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000 and then some....

I agree. this guy still is the 2nd best center in the NBA ...carried this team early and is a good defender.

bblame Bonner mason and Bogans ...plus the lakers are better ...

Manu was great tonight but Kobe is better ...

[Killakobe81]

Duncan had 12 boards 6 assists and 3 blocks ...

even though he didnt score much ... Duncan was great on the other end and getting his guys involved.

[Galileo]

Duncan had a bad shooting might.

But he only took 11 shots and made his free throws.

He had 12 boards, 6 assists, 3 blocks and 2 steals, with only 2 fouls committed.

He was involved in the offense, as usual, with zilllions of picks and was always moving.

He had a shitty game, but actually had better stats than Gasol.

[Chubby_Love]

That's bullshit! If he didn't care.....The Spurs would not have four titles. He had a bad night, that's all. He will rebound, and be back! :flag:

[VBM]

When Dave was 32 years old, he got Tim Duncan. Whom did Tim get?

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1013/fantasy_g_bogans_200.jpg

[TJastal]

Timmy just didn't help offensively. He did everything else extremely well. He also held gasol to 10 pts. He just didn't have legs for scoring and he settled for too many jumpers. But I will take this type of defensive effort every day for Timmy. Pop just got b-slapped by phil like he always does.

Phil played 3 of his starters over 40 minutes while Manu only played 33 min.:depressed

The moment he took out Manu and replaced him with RJ and not Blair, I knew that it was over. Despite what all their fans say, they have NO answer whatsoever for Manu.:king I also thought that he did a good job on kobe. Pop should never double team kobe unless it is a game winning shot and their Wide open 3 pt. shooters hit their shots or got another chance with an offensive rebound. Blair only played 10 and he had 5 pts and 6 rebounds which was more that mcdice. :bang
Even though mason and bonner missed a few wide open 3's; I like the fact that they competed which brings me to RJ...too depressed to write about his effort tonight.:(
Timmy is a warrior; I just think that he is playing with pain more than any of us realize. He has had no lift on his jumpers since Jan. Pop needs to sit him one of the games against an easier opponent. In times like these, we really miss Tony. The lakers were in the penalty at 7 min. and no one went to the line. This loss hurts because it was the lakers, but I was proud of the way most of the team showed heart.

I think that the way the fakers celebrated that win tells us of the importance of it to them. You would think that it was sending them to the finals or something. They didn't even celebrate like that when they were sent to the finals. Artest played great defense, but for God's sake act like you won a regular season game before....GEEZ. :whine
Have you ever send the Spurs act like that before?

This lost hurt, but there are other losses this year that were FAR worse than this one.

:flag:

Brilliant posting.

[Sisk]

i love how the lakers and mavs fans are interjecting the most intelligence in these recent threads

thanks

[TD 21]

Spurs fans are so fucking stupid, it's ridiculous..honestly, our fanbase might be the worst of any NBA team..

Duncan is 34 YEARS OLD WITH A TON OF MILEAGE ON HIM..there has NEVER been a big man in the modern era with Duncan's mileage that continued to play at a consistent level..it happens to all of them..

He had to carry this team in the 1st half while Manu and Parker battled through injuries and Jefferson didn't do anything..he's the only guy that can anchor the defense and the only big on our team that plays any defense in general..he usually has to battle 2 bigs in the paint all by himself..

He's now showing his age and mileage, and so many idiots here are calling him out for being a "pussy", having "no pride", and no longer being a "warrior"..

It's ridiculous..

Well said.

The reality is the organization took him for granted and wore him out. Why would anyone who's followed his career question his effort, heart, etc. Fuck the outward, phony, look at me "emotion" of Garnett, Bryant, etc., Duncan is as competitive as any player in the league. Competitiveness has nothing to do with this, physical limitations are what this is all about and the organization has exacerbated those limitations by taking him for granted because they're cheap and ignorant.

[HarlemHeat37]

Seriously though, did some people here not watch the first game vs. LA?..he tore Bynum's ass and completely dominated their team..there's clearly been a difference from then until now, the guy is obviously declining as the grind continues..

[santymrc]

GTFO TD haters... I can't believe what I've read...
Timmy's a warrior man... He's just tired.

[DynastySpurs210]

Timmy D is as competitive player and still giving his 110% on the court, the problem is that he's Tired!! He gave everything he has on 05,07. He's as tired as Stephon Marbury,Steve Francis,Allen Iverson,C-Webb Ex... but he still working his butt off. I hope the Spurs organization fix this mess before Timmy Retires because it's looking Sad.

[TDMVPDPOY]

his decline in production compared to last season is a fkn joke

[Sean Cagney]

LOL at anyone hating on the man who brought this team 4 titles and two MVP's and so on, you guys are pieces of shit!!!!! Seriously he was and still is all heart, he tries every night whether he does well or not every night anymore! He is our best player ever, period! This dude is the sun the earth and the moon and stars to us! Without him we never get one title, you need to recognize him and realize he is what we always wanted and needed!

He is worn down now after years yes, and tired after carrying the team for so long on his back without a true C beside him since 03 (Nazr in 05 for half the year or less). To diss Tim is like to diss your mom or dad, you do not exist without TIM! GOD BLESS.

[phxspurfan]

This isn't 2003, buddy. Expecting a 34 year old Tim to dominate like Dwight Howard against the best frontcourt in the league, in the middle of the week of hell, after having carried his team through half a season, without his starting PG, is stupid. He had a bad game, and is not MVP of the league.

He will occasionally be able to get crazy good games (2 games ago for instance), but expecting that out of him every day is nonsense.

[Capt Bringdown]

It's called growing old. Whether or not he "cares" is completely irrelevant. I'm sure Duncan would much rather prefer that his body worked the same way it did when he was 25.
When players retire from the game, it's not because they don't care. It's because their bodies are slowly breaking down and they can't perform up to standard anymore.

Maybe if I concentrate really hard and whip myself up into a frenzy of care, I'll be able to go play basketball in the sun all day like I was able to do when I was 18...

[mingus]

in theory this wasn't supposed to happen. a healthy Parker and Ginobili from the get-go means a different Duncan right now.

when healthy, he's the Spurs 2nd best option, with Parker and Manu basically sharing the one depending on who has it going that particular night.

he's our third option, then, basically. sometimes he can be number two when he's on, but he just doesn't have the physical capability to bring it anymore like he used to agains the best teams.

the problem is that it's being exposed and asked to do too much at this point in his career.

i'm hoping when tp gets back things can come together magically, but i'm not counting on it.

people need to keep in mind, though, that those scoring drouts don't come with Tony being out there. not only that but artest and Kobe will both have to guard someone who'll actually make them work their asses off. yesterday, both those guys could basically take the play off when he wasn't guarding Manu. that in turn affects their offensive game.

i still think RJ needs to be involved more and in different ways offensively. popovich needs to make this a point of emphasis. it's seems like he and the players forget that he's out there. the guy is CLEARLY not someone who hits shots periodically throughout the game. he's GOT TO FIND A GROOVE AND GET CONFIDENT. so establish him early; try to get him going; otherwise you've got him out there with his thumb up his ass for the whole game, and what's the point in that.

[DesignatedT]

in theory this wasn't supposed to happen. a healthy Parker and Ginobili from the get-go means a different Duncan right now.

when healthy, he's the Spurs 2nd best option, with Parker and Manu basically sharing the one depending on who has it going that particular night.

he's our third option, then, basically. sometimes he can be number two when he's on, but he just doesn't have the physical capability to bring it anymore like he used to agains the best teams.

the problem is that it's being exposed and asked to do too much at this point in his career.

i'm hoping when tp gets back things can come together magically, but i'm not counting on it.

people need to keep in mind, though, that those scoring drouts don't come with Tony being out there. not only that but artest and Kobe will both have to guard someone who'll actually make them work their asses off. yesterday, both those guys could basically take the play off when he wasn't guarding Manu. that in turn affects their offensive game.

i still think RJ needs to be involved more and in different ways offensively. popovich needs to make this a point of emphasis. it's seems like he and the players forget that he's out there. the guy is CLEARLY not someone who hits shots periodically throughout the game. he's GOT TO FIND A GROOVE AND GET CONFIDENT. so establish him early; try to get him going; otherwise you've got him out there with his thumb up his ass for the whole game, and what's the point in that.

:tu

agree 100%

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I don't think Tim cares, at least not about this team, not about this season.

Maybe he's spoiled after so many seasons where the Spurs were contenders.

I think it's pretty shitty he's not having some pride and competing no matter what. It's $275K/game, the fans deserve better, even if there's no chance to get out of the first round. You go down fighting, not quitting.

The amount of FAIL and irony in this post is bewildering. :tu

[Calavera]

I can`t blame him for being old and tired, but I don`t like that he`s not adjusting to his present abilities. 2-11 FG ? Going for fade aways, angry but silent... I watch him carefuly in defense - a good amount of the defensive situations he tries to move away from guarding his match (Gasol, Howard the other game). He looked like scared from them. Maybe I`m wrong, maybe noone else thinks that way, but I share this with you. He makes more mistakes than the stats are showing and his silent frustration transfers to the other guys (RJefferson leaving Kobe for a smoke break at the 3).
OK, that`s enough for TD now, I`ll move on to the Pop bashing thread now.

[Slippy]

All i know is i said this about month ago so im not as surprised . No so much thw warrior part , there's no doubt he trying . It's the struggling part and so will the Spurs to win against the best. They miss his inside presense on both ends.

Now it's up to Tim to adjust to how he's feeling on the night.

[Stringer_Bell]

Timmy will always fight for this city, every game and every minute he's in. It's obvious he's in a slump though, and the STUPID decisions of some people managing the team only make these sorts of slumps more apparent because Timmy gets even more worn down when he's got no back-up and is expected to carry the load on his aging knees.

You wouldn't send a Navy Seal to take over a village held hostage by Kobe Bryant and the Lakers. You need 3 Navy Seals, you need the BIG 3!!

[easy7]

Ian is the savior...But Pop can't see it because he is distracted by Bogans smile... :lmao

[ElNono]

He's been sent out there to hung out to dry all alone all season long, when we've already seen last season that he simply cannot physically grind out a full 82 games season at this stage in his career.

[dbreiden83080]

This is such a lame thread. The guy is a legend who is not what he once was, what do you want Tim to do, get into a time machine and find the 2003 version of himself?? His body is not reacting like it used to, a lot of mileage on the tires. Happens to the best of them..

[Thomas82]

Well said.

The reality is the organization took him for granted and wore him out. Why would anyone who's followed his career question his effort, heart, etc. Fuck the outward, phony, look at me "emotion" of Garnett, Bryant, etc., Duncan is as competitive as any player in the league. Competitiveness has nothing to do with this, physical limitations are what this is all about and the organization has exacerbated those limitations by taking him for granted because they're cheap and ignorant.

This is exactly why I tell people all the time that he should have no less than 6 rings already. Being cheap finally caught up with the Spurs in 2008.

[Man In Black]

This is such a lame thread. The guy is a legend who is not what he once was, what do you want Tim to do, get into a time machine and find the 2003 version of himself?? His body is not reacting like it used to, a lot of mileage on the tires. Happens to the best of them..

Yeah...he needs a hot tub time machine!

www.kicksomepast.com

[senorglory]

Please visit the troll forum if all you wanna do is call people names like a child.

Coming here, to spurstalk, and saying what you've said is the equivalent of calling us names, like a child.

Don't come to our house and piss on our rug.

[Ashy Larry]

gotta love Tim but like Chuck Barkley says "You just can't beat Father Time."

[DesignatedT]

only 26 minutes tonight for TD. obviously rest is the only issue here.... let him get some rest and he will be fine. playing 6 games in 9 nights is too hard on those knees

[Thomas82]

only 26 minutes tonight for td. Obviously rest is the only issue here.... Let him get some rest and he will be fine. Playing 6 games in 9 nights is too hard on those knees

+1

[Jace]

Mentally he is still a "Warrior".. He is just old.. Time is undefeated

[Blackjack]

Please stop bumping this thread.

It's embarrassing to the majority of the Spurs fan base to keep seeing 'Tim Duncan is no longer a warrior' on the front page.

Thanks.

[NickiRasgo]

Playoffs FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc Date Opponent Score GS Min M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts Apr 21 @ DAL W 102-88 1 35:58 11 19 57.9 0 0 N/A 3 7 42.9 5 12 17 2 0 0 0 4 25 Apr 18 @ DAL L 94-100 1 40:04 12 20 60.0 0 0 N/A 3 5 60.0 1 7 8 2 6 0 0 3 27 Total 2 38.0 23 39 59.0 0 0 N/A 6 12 50.0 6 19 25 4 6 0 0 7 52 Game 1: 27 Points, 8 Rebounds, 2 Assists Game 2: 25 Points, 17 Rebounds, 2 Assists

[Avitus1]

:lol:lmao:lol

[TheChillFactor]

Rule #1 - always respect Tim Duncan.

Rule #2 - go read Rule #1 again, dumbass.

[Melmart1]

I would hope that the OP is happy to have egg on his face right now. But if he is one of those "fans" who would rather be right in his negativity rather than see the team succeed, then he can go fuck himself. :)

[silverblackfan]

Rule #1 - always respect Tim Duncan.

Rule #2 - go read Rule #1 again, dumbass.

Well this bump is timely. Tim continues to make the doubters insignificant.

[MaNu4Tres]

Doesn't surprise me gospursgojas made this thread.

[rjv]

:lol

[z0sa]

:lmao

Anyone who says or agrees that Tim Duncan is no longer a warrior is an idiot.

[Strange Botwin]

Of course, Tim Duncan is not a warrior....HE'S A FREAKING WIZARD! Merlin...HELLO?!?!?!

[Mixability]

ouch

[samikeyp]

The demise of Tim Duncan has been greatly exaggerated.

I have said it for years and its still relevant....as long as 21 is on the court, there is always a chance.

Dismiss at your own peril.

[Arrowch4]

http://erinjarvis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/foot-in-mouth.jpg

[Dr Cox]

this thread is f*cking stupid.


repect timmy..he played well last night

[gospursgojas]

I would hope that the OP is happy to have egg on his face right now. But if he is one of those "fans" who would rather be right in his negativity rather than see the team succeed, then he can go fuck himself. :)

I like my eggs scrambled. Read the pages before in this thread. I was begging to be wrong

[DontStopBelieving]

Don't mess with Timmeh :nope

:ihit

[DPG21920]

Twat a tool

[Cry Havoc]

Duncan now averaging 26 points and 13+ rebounds per game through 2 playoff games.

[sa_butta]

Thank god "playoff Duncan" is still a warrior. I understand the initial post during the regular season, he was not the only one who thought this of Duncan. Who was to know he was just coasting into the playoffs to become unstoppable.

[dbreiden83080]

Warrior....



http://nbcsportsmedia.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050623/050623_spurs_celebrate_vmed_10pm.widec.jpg

[dbreiden83080]

gotta love Tim but like Chuck Barkley says "You just can't beat Father Time."

The way Chuck keeps gaining and losing 50 pds he is gonna be 6 feet under soon..

[picc84]

03-24-2010
i explicity remember duncan playing like horseshit during the 08 season, and then the playoffs started and he magically started looking like a superstar again. Looked exactly the same as he does now.

[m33p0]

one of these years, OP will be right. just not this year.

[Spursfan092120]

http://prudz.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/failure.jpg

[Spurtacus]

"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. "

-Tim Duncan

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

:lmao at the title of this thread. Really? Y'all forgot to account for Playoff Duncan.

Tim doesn't have much athleticism any more, but he gets it done with smart, finesse, and sheer perseverance. Last game he had at least two buckets where he was stripped or otherwise lost the ball, but stuck with it and made the bucket. Then there was the 3 straight baskets to seal the game. Then there's his defence... the way he utterly controls the defensive glass... the perfect pnr cuts... passing... silent leadership... etc.

Don't ever doubt that Timmy is a WARRIOR. :ihit

[TheChillFactor]

hopefully bumps such as this one will cut down on the fucking dumbass overreaction threads next year...hopefully but probably not.

[exstatic]

hopefully bumps such as this one will cut down on the fucking dumbass overreaction threads next year...hopefully but probably not.

One thing I have learned in my time on the planet: fucking emo idiots abound.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

One thing I have learned in my time on the planet: fucking emo idiots abound.

This. :depressed

[howbouthemspurs]

Typical spurs fans calling out typical spurs fan's faith to the team

Typical spurs fans calling typical spurs fans for being disapointed after a loss and calling t a meltdown

Typical

You're stupid

[BronxCowboy]

one of these years, OP will be right. just not this year.
:nope Duncan will go out as STILL one of the best bigs in the game. OP will never be right. Dirk said it best: Timmy's skillset is never going away.

[pjjrfan]

He's had a lot of bad moments, games, and patterns the last couple of seasons. Wednesday's game was a joy to watch, in fact he started the game with some really bad plays but found his game after the 1st qtr. This can only bring us hope, because Tim playing big in the middle is what has made champions of the Spurs.