PDA

View Full Version : Michael Moore's Open Letter to Bill Timmins and response



Jimcs50
08-24-2004, 07:15 PM
Response to Michael Moore's, "Open Letter to Bill Timmins, President Aladdin Casino and Hotel"

As you most likely know, Michael Moore posted the following letter:

After the letter, you will find the response... PLEASE READ MR. TIMMINS RESPONSE. IT IS EXCELLENT. KUDOS TO MR. TIMMINS!

:rollin


Bill Timmins President Aladdin Casino and Hotel Las Vegas, NV

July 20, 2004

Dear Mr. Timmins:

I understand from the news reports I've read that, after Linda Ronstadt, one of America's greatest singers, dedicated a song to me from your stage on Saturday night, you instructed your security guards to remove her from the Aladdin, which they did.

What country do you live in? Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called "The First Amendment." This constitutional right gives everyone here the right to say whatever they want to say. All Americans hold this right as sacred. Many of our young people put on a uniform and risk their lives to defend it. My film is all about asking the questions that should have been asked before those brave soldiers were sent into harms way.

For you to throw Linda Ronstadt off the premises because she dared to say a few words in support of me and my film, is simply stupid and Un-American. Frankly, I have never heard of such a thing happening. I read that you wouldn't even let her go back up to her room at your hotel! Are you crazy? For crying out loud, it was a song DEDICATION! To "Desperado!" Every American loves that song! Sure, some people didn't like the dedication, and that's their right. But neither they nor you have the right to remove her from your building when all she did was exercise her AMERICAN right to speak her mind.

Of all the things that go on in Las Vegas, this is what creates the need for serious action? What about the other half of the crowd at the Aladdin who, according to the Las Vegas Sun, cheered her when she made her remarks? Did you throw them out, too?

I think you owe Ms. Ronstadt an apology. And I have an idea how you can make it up to her -- and to the millions of Americans you have offended. Invite her back and I'll join her in singing "America the Beautiful" on your stage. Then I will show "Fahrenheit 9/11" free of charge to all your guests and anyone else in Las Vegas who wants to see it.

Mr. Timmins, as the song "Desperado" says -- "Come to your senses!" How can you refuse this offer? I await your reply.

Yours,
Michael Moore
Director, "Fahrenheit 9/11"


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Response

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


July 21, 2004

Attention: Michael Moore,

In response to your letter dated July 20, 2004:

You are correct that I had security remove Linda Ronstadt from Aladdin Casino and Hotel where the fun never ends and everybody wins. How very interesting to learn you are such a fan of Ms. Ronstadt.

You questioned where I live and surprisingly knew Las Vegas is in the United States. You should visit it sometime. There are thousands of wonderful 'All You Can Eat' buffets.

There are also a lot of casinos who's owners don't **** around. I am aware of the First Amendment and you have the right to talk about your hatred of America but once you are on my property and you are upsetting my guests, you will quickly learn about my rights.

I can't remember if it was Jesus or George W. Bush that said, "Freedom is a two-way street." Ms. Ronstadt learned this long before I had her thrown out of my casino. You question my actions? If you come onto my property and upset my guests, you will receive the same, if not worse, treatment than Ms. Ronstadt received. I am sure your mere presence would upset my guests.

You claim your film " . . . is all about asking the questions that should have been asked before those brave soldiers were sent into harm's way." I think you film does nothing but aid the enemy and hurt our troops. You have betrayed our troops, our leader and America. I have no respect for you or your vision of what America should be.

I paid Ms. Ronstadt to entertain my guests, not divide them. The half that did not leave probably thought the verse you mentioned, "Why don't you come to your senses" was addressed to you. Maybe she should have dedicated her song, 'You're No Good' to you. I would have asked her back, had she done that.

Regarding your request for me to apologize to her, have you and her on my stage singing anything about this Country and then playing your piece of **** film is ludicrous!

One of my workers is currently throwing away every complaint letter from brainless followers of you, claiming they will never visit my Casino. I could not be more pleased to know my casino and hotel will always be void of the kind of people who support you. Meanwhile, my hotel has been quickly booked solid for the rest of the year with true Americans who love this Country and support our efforts overseas. They will see a framed copy of your letter and my response in the lobby to ensure they begin their experience with a laugh. :king

Sincerely,
Bill Timmins
President, Aladdin Casino and Hotel
Las Vegas, NV

King Latifah
08-24-2004, 07:17 PM
As much as I wish it were true....

snopes.com/politics/soapbox/timmins.asp (http://snopes.com/politics/soapbox/timmins.asp)

bigzak25
08-24-2004, 07:31 PM
false as it may be....still a fantastic response.

Jimcs50
08-24-2004, 07:44 PM
This was read on Rush Limbaugh's show as if it were fact...are you sure this is not true? I will be in Vegas next weekend so I will go and check it out for myself.

SpursWoman
08-24-2004, 08:02 PM
It's the thought that counts in any case....Beautiful!


:lol :rollin :lol :lol

King Latifah
08-24-2004, 09:01 PM
I'm only going off of snopes as to whether it's true or not. It usually proves or disproves things, but I'm not 100% sure. I hope it's true.

T Park Num 9
08-24-2004, 09:11 PM
If that is the response, than that is an absolutely perfet response.


Gotta love how he starts the letter out, with almost an advertisement!! lol.

mstexmex
08-25-2004, 01:01 AM
I doubt this was a response from a casino exec.
BTW, the aladdin fucking sucks. It's tighter than a ducks ass in water. NO ONE wins there. that is why they are so close to filing bankruptcy if they have not already done so. It's a pain in the ass to park about 2 miles from the friggin casino.
That is why locals (people who live in Vegas) don't go there.
In defense of their buffet though it absolutely kicks ass but we go on a very rare occasion because of the inconvenience.

Guru of Nothing
08-25-2004, 01:34 AM
That is why locals (people who live in Vegas) don't go there.
In defense of their buffet though it absolutely kicks ass but we go on a very rare occasion because of the inconvenience.

Please God, if you exist, may I never have the urge to share my opinion on a casino buffet. ... EVER!

CrazyOne
08-25-2004, 09:02 AM
Well, if you won't, I will...

I went to two buffets last month. The Circus Circus was alright, but not spectacular. The hotel that has the rollercoaster on top... I had a piece of prime rib that didn't taste like meat. :vomit

Jimcs50
08-25-2004, 09:48 AM
I doubt this was a response from a casino exec.
BTW, the aladdin fucking sucks. It's tighter than a ducks ass in water. NO ONE wins there. that is why they are so close to filing bankruptcy if they have not already done so. It's a pain in the ass to park about 2 miles from the friggin casino.

I won $500 playing Blackjack there one afternoon.

mstexmex
08-25-2004, 04:18 PM
Please God, if you exist, may I never have the urge to share my opinion on a casino buffet. ... EVER!

I hope you are not referring to me sugarplum. Have you ever even been to Vegas? probably not. I am referring to the response of timmons and bringing up a buffet. Is that all you got a fucking stupid childish insult? grow up.

SpursWoman
08-25-2004, 04:45 PM
Ummm...I'd be willing to bet he said that because of an extremely bad experience he had at one.



And btw, the response letter was a JOKE. IT WASN'T REALLY WRITTEN BY TIMMONS. But somehow I'm not surprised you missed that one, too.

bigzak25
08-25-2004, 04:46 PM
wow...someone's bleeding....

mstexmex
08-25-2004, 04:55 PM
sw, please use something different than I'm sure you missed that one too, are you psychic and know exactly what people are saying in their responses? and if YOU had read my earlier post you would have SEEN that I said I am sure a casino exec would not respond in that manner. ok???? xoxo

Samurai Jane
08-25-2004, 05:05 PM
I thought "Timmons" said that because Moore looks like he spends alot of time at buffets, but that's just me....:spin

Jimcs50
08-25-2004, 05:08 PM
^^^^what she said. That is why he said that. Moore is a fat ass.

mstexmex
08-25-2004, 05:10 PM
right, so all I brought up was how good the aladdin buffet is.

SpursWoman
08-25-2004, 05:15 PM
are you psychic and know exactly what people are saying in their responses?


No, not psychic, really. But when I read something, I have this uncanny ability of actually understanding what the words mean when they're all put together. Does that count?

Jimcs50
08-25-2004, 05:22 PM
Girls, girls, girls....lets not argue....Some buffets are good, some suck ass...I get what texmex was saying.

Useruser666
08-25-2004, 05:44 PM
:cat :tyson :cat

Useruser666<-- waiting quietly in shadows!

Useruser666 :eyebrow

mstexmex
08-25-2004, 05:58 PM
No, not psychic, really. But when I read something, I have this uncanny ability of actually understanding what the words mean when they're all put together. Does that count?

no you have an uncanny ability to think whatever the **** you want, does that count too???
SEMANTICS- : the study of meanings: a : the historical and psychological study and the classification of changes in the signification of words or forms viewed as factors in linguistic development

bigzak25
08-25-2004, 06:02 PM
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/images/smilies/muching_out.gif

SpursWoman
08-25-2004, 06:14 PM
And I'm sure that the fact that most of us have been posting together for a very long time and I know his sense of humor didn't hurt, either.

:)

Guru of Nothing
08-25-2004, 06:16 PM
Is that all you got a fucking stupid childish insult? grow up.

I concur, that was one of my weaker insults.

mstexmex
08-25-2004, 06:35 PM
thank you for concurring guru.


And I'm sure that the fact that most of us have been posting together for a very long time and I know his sense of humor didn't hurt, either.

Well good for you, but why don't you let me find out for myself what his sense of humor is. Thank you
I would appreciate that.

Shelly
08-25-2004, 06:43 PM
Hey, Zak!

Pass that popcorn already!

Jimcs50
08-25-2004, 06:44 PM
Shelly, popcorn is bad for you. Come over here and I will give you something a lot healthier with fewer calories. :)

Shelly
08-25-2004, 06:48 PM
Jimbo, won't that ruin the enamal on my teeth? :shock

bigzak25
08-25-2004, 06:51 PM
here you go shelly....get your own beer though! :p

Jimcs50
08-25-2004, 06:51 PM
On the contrary Shelly, my wife has beautiful teeth....so can you. :shock

Shelly
08-25-2004, 06:53 PM
Thanks, Zak!

Ah, but so do I, Jimbo, so do I......

My 'other' dentist loves me.

Betsy
08-25-2004, 06:54 PM
Hey Jim, take a picture while you are there. :drunk

Jimcs50
08-25-2004, 06:56 PM
Hey Jim, take a picture while you are there.

Betsy, where? Shelly's mouth?

Oh, you mean at the Aladdin. Ok, will do. :)

Shelly
08-25-2004, 07:02 PM
Betsy, where? Shelly's mouth?

Dang, Betsy..ya perv!

SpursWoman
08-25-2004, 07:06 PM
:lol

Betsy
08-25-2004, 07:08 PM
No Jim, I was actually thinking of you down low. You know. Where you said for me to blow you. :lol

Useruser666
08-26-2004, 12:04 PM
The cat fights over already?! Damnit! What the hell am I going to do with 55 gallons of corn oil, and a large plastic kiddie pool now?!!! :makemyday

Useruser666 :eyebrow

SpursWoman
08-26-2004, 12:15 PM
I prefer Jello, anyway. It's easier to get out of your hair. :)

Useruser666
08-26-2004, 12:24 PM
Ok, so it's a go if I bring jello? How about jello shot wrestling? :p

Useruser666 :eyebrow

Shelly
08-26-2004, 12:27 PM
But think how shiny your hair will be after you finally get all the grease out!

Your hair would be the envy of all woman! **** Pantene!

SpursWoman
08-26-2004, 12:41 PM
How about jello shot wrestling?


Nah, I think that one's better off left alone. :)




**** Pantene!


That stuff is awful! :lol

Useruser666
08-26-2004, 02:54 PM
Man, I can't catch a break! :cry

Useruser666 :eyebrow

Jimcs50
08-26-2004, 02:59 PM
**** Pantene!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




That stuff is awful!

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

Useruser666
08-26-2004, 03:45 PM
If you don't look good, pass me another six pack!

Useruser666 :eyebrow