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Jimcs50
05-04-2005, 08:27 AM
Nuggets not ready to call it a season despite 3-1 deficit against Spurs

By Chris Tomasson, Rocky Mountain News
May 4, 2005

SAN ANTONIO - Baseball was George Karl's first love while growing up. So what does he talk about when times get tough?

Baseball, of course.


When the San Antonio Spurs clobbered the Denver Nuggets by 28 points last week, Karl pointed to the 1960 World Series. The Nuggets coach noted how the Pittsburgh Pirates won in seven games despite losing three lopsided games against the New York Yankees.

Now, Karl's Nuggets are down 3-1 in the best-of-seven first-round series against the Spurs. It was time Tuesday for him to dust off some more stories from the diamond.

"I'm from the New England area," said Nuggets center Marcus Camby, a native of Hartford, Conn. "I saw where the Red Sox came back (from a 3-0 deficit in last year's American League Championship Series) against the Yankees and going on to win the championship. :smokin So why not us? . . . I got that one from coach."

Karl is doing whatever he can to motivate the Nuggets heading into Game 5 tonight at the SBC Center. The Nuggets have the unenviable task of trying to win three consecutive games, two at San Antonio.

The Nuggets' advertising motto during the playoffs is "Believe." And Karl apparently has gotten the players to do that.

"It's not impossible," said point guard Earl Boykins, who broke out of a shooting slump to score a team-most 32 points in Monday's 126-115 overtime loss in Game 4. "But we are facing a great challenge now. . . . We're going to have to play defense (tonight). We are going to have to get stops."

To stay alive, the Nuggets need to stop Spurs forward Tim Duncan, who scored a game-most 39 points Monday. Karl said the Nuggets might throw more double teams at him.

Karl said before Game 4 that Duncan still was lacking lift because of a sprained right ankle that forced him to miss 12 games late in the regular season. It seems Karl still is not impressed with his movement.

"He was good," Karl said. "But I didn't think that he had that agility. I think that he made power moves inside."

But the play Karl was thinking about the most was one that happened outside. Karl still was smarting Tuesday about a shot by Boykins he believed should have been called a three-pointer.

With 2 minutes, 40 seconds remaining in regulation, Boykins made a long shot that gave the Nuggets a 101-99 lead.

While Boykins said he did not know Karl said the shot should have been ruled a three-pointer, he said replays verify it.

"It's definitely a three," said Karl, who said baseline official Bennie Adams was too far from the play to make an accurate call. "I was looking right at it.

"I'm sure San Antonio has as many complaints as I have (about the officiating). But they didn't get a point taken away from them."

Karl has barked about the officiating the past two games. After Game 3, he did not believe enough fouls were called.

There was no shortage of whistles Monday; the Nuggets were called for 37 fouls and the Spurs for 36.

"When you talk about that stuff in the paper, the referees read the newspapers too," Camby said.

Karl also was displeased with an offensive foul in the first minute of overtime on Nuggets point guard Andre Miller. He said Spurs guard Manu Ginobili flopped.

"I may get my team to grow long hair (like Ginobili) so it looks like you get hit," Karl said. "I think referees are doing their best, but they're imperfect. Their imperfection creates pain and hell for a lot of players and coaches."

Meanwhile, the Nuggets must play close to perfect ball to stay in the series. After being upset at home in Game 1, the Spurs have found their rhythm.

"We've dug down pretty deep," San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich said. "A lot of guys have participated, we've used a lot of different combinations and they've just played through whatever's been thrown at them, whether it's a call on the court or a decision that has been made or a substitution that has been made."

Neither team practiced Tuesday. Denver's players showed up at the Pepsi Center before flying to San Antonio.

"I don't think I've ever walked out of a building at 1:15 in my life unless I drank a case of beer after the game," Karl said of leaving the Pepsi Center early Tuesday morning. "Then I woke up (Tuesday) morning and the last thing I wanted was to coach basketball on the floor."

Karl calls this the "most fatigued playoff series I think I've been in," but he believes the Nuggets can "go down to San Antonio and rock the world."

Camby agrees.

"It's a tough battle for us, but it can be done," he said. "We're wounded right now. I know a lot of guys have a lot of pride in here. They don't want to go home for the summer, so hopefully we can pull this one out."

Camby is from New England, which he figures is a good start.



• Notes: Since making 11 of 16 shots in the first half of Game 1, Miller is 11-for-38. He finished with 31 points in the opener but has scored 34 in the past three games . . . Game 4 lasted about as long as a typical Rockies game at Coors Field, clocking in at 3 hours, 15 minutes - the longest postseason game in Nuggets history . . . The Spurs' 126 points in Game 4 were the most they had scored in a playoff game since putting up 130 against the Golden State Warriors in 1991 . . . Camby is averaging 12.5 points and 13.8 rebounds in his past six playoff games dating to last year . . . The series seems to get more physical with each game. There were 44 fouls in Game 1, 47 in Game 2, 48 in Game 3 and 73 in Game 4 .

• Nuggets playoff statistics






Min. Reb. Ast. Pts.
No. Player GP avg. avg. avg. avg.

15 Anthony 4 35.5 5.8 2.0 17.8

24 Miller 4 37.0 4.8 5.0 16.3

11 Boykins 4 27.8 1.0 3.5 14.3

6 Martin 4 32.3 5.5 1.3 12.0

23 Camby 4 37.5 11.5 1.8 11.3

3 Johnson 4 19.5 2.0 0.8 7.3

31 Nene 4 19.8 5.0 0.5 5.5

10 Person 3 12.7 0.3 0.3 4.0

7 Buckner 4 21.0 3.5 1.0 2.5

9 Russell 2 3.5 0.0 0.0 1.5

21 Najera 2 6.5 1.0 0.5 0.0

56 Elson 1 6.0 3.0 0.0 0.0

Team totals 4 246.3 40.5 16.3 90.5

Opponent totals 4 246.3 44.5 19.0 100.8






• Spurs playoff statistics


Min. Reb. Ast. Pts.
No. Player GP avg. avg. avg. avg.

20 Ginobili 4 30.8 5.3 5.4 24.0

21 Duncan 4 32.5 11.3 3.0 23.0

9 Parker 4 35.8 2.8 5.5 17.5

5 Horry 4 25.5 4.5 0.8 8.3

17 Barry 4 26.5 2.3 3.3 7.3

2 Mohammed 4 25.8 8.0 0.5 7.0

14 Udrih 4 14.0 1.0 0.8 6.5

3 Robinson 3 10.0 1.7 0.0 4.7

23 Brown 1 6.0 0.0 0.0 3.0

12 Bowen 4 33.3 4.8 1.3 2.5

8 Nesterovic 3 14.0 4.0 0.0 0.7

34 Massenburg 2 5.5 1.0 0.0 0.0

Team totals 3 246.3 44.5 19.0 100.8

Opponent totals 3 246.3 40.5 16.3 90.5

Jimcs50
05-04-2005, 08:28 AM
I seriously think Kark is Manic Depressive....dude needs Prozac

I am being dead serious here.

sa_butta
05-04-2005, 08:32 AM
its going to take a miracle for them to win this one.

Spurs in a route at home
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SpursWoman
05-04-2005, 08:34 AM
"I may get my team to grow long hair (like Ginobili) so it looks like you get hit," Karl said. "I think referees are doing their best, but they're imperfect. Their imperfection creates pain and hell for a lot of players and coaches."


WTF was that?!?! Ummmm......okay. :rolleyes

Jimcs50
05-04-2005, 08:36 AM
Boykins solves Spurs, keeps secret to his success just that
By Pat Rooney, Special to the News
May 4, 2005

Earl Boykins is not only diminutive. He is secretive, too.

On Monday, Boykins finally came up with some answers for the defensive coverage the San Antonio Spurs had been throwing at him in the first three games of the Nuggets' first-round playoff series.


Boykins, the Nuggets' 5-foot-5 super sub, scored a team-leading 32 points during Denver's 126-115 overtime loss in Game 4. The effort exceeded Boykins' scoring total of the first three games combined, yet Tuesday, when asked to evaluate why he was able to break out, Boykins remained coy.

He did not want to reveal any trade secrets before Game 5 tonight at San Antonio.

"I figured out what they were doing to me and I was just trying to take advantage of it," Boykins said. "I can't tell you (what it was) because they might change and it might take me another three games to figure out what they are doing."

Boykins shot 12-for-20 on Monday, vanquishing the frustration that had set in after hitting shooting 9-for-32 and scoring 25 points in the first three games.

Yet while he eliminated one disappointment Monday, Boykins gained another slight one Tuesday when he learned he had finished third in the voting for the NBA's Sixth Man of the Year Award.

Boykins, who earned 155 points, finished behind Chicago Bulls rookie Ben Gordon, who collected 513 points, and Ricky Davis of the Boston Celtics.

"It's not a disappointment. I look at it as an award where if you scored the most points off the bench, you're going to win it," Boykins said. "I knew I wasn't going to win it because I wasn't the leading scorer off the bench for the entire league. That's just how they do the award. (Gordon) had a great year and what he did coming out of college was unbelievable."

Boykins' teammates were not surprised by the breakout game by their spark plug guard. After watching Boykins electrify home crowds and dissect opposing defenses throughout the regular season, several Nuggets believed it was only a matter of time before he broke through in the postseason.

"Earl is a competitor. He always plays with a chip on his shoulder," center Marcus Camby said. "The first couple games, he was getting challenged a lot by their backup point guard (Beno Udrih).

"(Boykins) stepped up to the challenge (Monday) night. He was real aggressive with his shots. He was knocking down shots. He was passing the ball. He's been terrific for us. That's how he's been for us all season long."

Boykins has missed all four of his three-point attempts during the series, but he made a long-range jumper in Game 4 that most people in the Pepsi Center believed was a three- pointer that would have given the Nuggets a three-point lead.

Instead, an official ruled Boykins' foot was on the line, leaving the Nuggets with a 101-99 lead. A basket by Tim Duncan moments later again tied the score and the teams traded baskets down the stretch in regulation.

"I think we've got a type of game where we got to penetrate their defense and make good decisions," coach George Karl said. "I thought (Boykins') decisions were great on his shot selection. He didn't take it to the teeth of the defense as he was before."

CosmicCowboy
05-04-2005, 08:37 AM
"I don't think I've ever walked out of a building at 1:15 in my life unless I drank a case of beer after the game," Karl said of leaving the Pepsi Center early Tuesday morning. "

http://www.hbso.com/images/Coors_case.gif

Spurs need to stock the visitors locker room tonight...Karl is gonna need it!

nkdlunch
05-04-2005, 08:59 AM
"I may get my team to grow long hair (like Ginobili) so it looks like you get hit," Karl said.


Jesus! Karl doesn't make me mad anymore, I feel sorry for this man. :depressed

MaNuMaNiAc
05-04-2005, 09:05 AM
I'm getting sick and tired of this moron blaming everyone but himself.

orhe
05-04-2005, 09:11 AM
somebody should tell karl to grow the fuck up.
man i want manu to crush them w/ 40 points.

Clandestino
05-04-2005, 09:15 AM
when is karl going to get fined???

AlamoSpursFan
05-04-2005, 09:18 AM
"I'm sure San Antonio has as many complaints as I have (about the officiating). But they didn't get a point taken away from them."

No, dipshit...we had 39 points taken away from us.

Damn, I'll be happy when this idiot is fishing so we don't have to see his fat grille on TV anymore.

CavsSuperFan
05-04-2005, 09:28 AM
http://www.supersonicsoul.com/karl.jpg

Duncan makes his teammates better players by getting them involved in the game....Kobe makes his teammates better players by getting them traded to other teams....Its a very confusing game....

TMTTRIO
05-04-2005, 09:56 AM
I'm getting sick of him blaming everyone but himself and his team. The refs shouldn't have to save you. I'm getting really sick of the personal attacks on Manu too. I hope Manu puts a dagger right into them tonight. :pctoss :cuss

CosmicCowboy
05-04-2005, 10:12 AM
http://www.supersonicsoul.com/karl.jpg

Duncan makes his teammates better players by getting them involved in the game....Kobe makes his teammates better players by getting them traded to other teams....Its a very confusing game....

Classic!...:lmao

GrandeDavid
05-04-2005, 10:13 AM
http://www.hbso.com/images/Coors_case.gif

Spurs need to stock the visitors locker room tonight...Karl is gonna need it!

But the Spurs need to be sure to charge his whining ass every cent for every last beer he drinks.

mookie2001
05-04-2005, 10:23 AM
dam George is a bitch.
how long do think he'd last walking down southwest military

G-Nob
05-04-2005, 10:30 AM
Do You Believe In First Round Exits? Yes!!

1Parker1
05-04-2005, 10:37 AM
God, he is worse that Phil Jackson. Basically, after three losses he has had some excuse or another. When the Spurs were up 2-1, he went to the press saying, that realistically, the series was actually tied since that last game was a fluke. Then when we are up 3-1, he blames refs and the horrible officiating and manu's FREAKING HAIR???! for getting bad calls.

I understand that a coach doesn't want to admit to the press when his team got his ass seriously whipped by a better team. I understand that by doing so it discourages your team morale. However, he needs to take responsibility for these losses and get his team fired up saying that hey! Maybe the officiating did suck, maybe we have gotten some bad calls, hey , maybe Manu has been killing us, but a championship team fights through it and plays the game.

I seriously wish someone would slap this guy across the face.

mookie2001
05-04-2005, 10:46 AM
manu has to come back with with something, i know its not how he does things and that saying nothing would be colder than a witchs tit, but if i were him i would scoff the shit out of george karl once we win this series

DJREN12
05-04-2005, 11:00 AM
What's even more hilarious is the banner on their timekeepers & stat keepers tables that reads" 16 15 14 13 12 11 10........" with the 16 xed out. Its the only game that is gonna be xed out. Maybe they can recycle it and use it sometime in the next 10 yrs. I can't belive they would have the sacks to make up one of those banners knowing they were to play the Spurs in round one.

Phenomanul
05-04-2005, 11:00 AM
G-Nob... I'm usually not one to point these things out, let alone "see" them before "others" point it out.

Anyway, I know your user name stems from a condensed version of GiNobili's name... but man, when I first read it, it looked like it should be the brand name title of a sex toy or something of the like...

Or it might just be the makings of my own mind.....

thispego
05-04-2005, 11:06 AM
colder than a witche's teet, lol

G-Nob
05-04-2005, 11:10 AM
G-Nob... I'm usually not one to point these things out, let alone "see" them before "others" point it out.

Anyway, I know your user name stems from a condensed version of GiNobili's name... but man, when I first read it, it looked like it should be the brand name title of a sex toy or something of the like...

Or it might just be the makings of my own mind.....


Indeed, in the spirit of A-Rod or D-Rob, G-Nob just sounded better than M-Gin. It certainly sounds a heck of a lot funnier! :)

Phenomanul
05-04-2005, 11:15 AM
Indeed, in the spirit of A-Rod or D-Rob, G-Nob just sounded better than M-Gin. It certainly sounds a heck of a lot funnier! :)

EmManuel is still a pretty distinctive name... unique in the league.

Useruser666
05-04-2005, 11:16 AM
I read it as knob. Like door knob. Like dead as a door knob.

knob Audio pronunciation of "knob" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nb)
n.

1. A rounded protuberance. :lol
2.
1. A rounded handle, as on a drawer or door.
2. A rounded control switch or dial.
3. A prominent rounded hill or mountain.

Phenomanul
05-04-2005, 11:21 AM
I read it as knob. Like door knob. Like dead as a door knob.

knob Audio pronunciation of "knob" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nb)
n.

1. A rounded protuberance. :lol
2.
1. A rounded handle, as on a drawer or door.
2. A rounded control switch or dial.
3. A prominent rounded hill or mountain.


Hint hint... when I said others would point it out... I had to check that you or your partner in crime (SW) :lol had not already said something about it....

exstatic
05-04-2005, 11:25 AM
The big difference is that Boston wasn't blaming the umps for every loss in the ALCS. Karl isn't doing anything except giving his players a built in excuse to lose.

samikeyp
05-04-2005, 12:00 PM
http://www.supersonicsoul.com/karl.jpg

"If I don't get my way...I am going to take a poop right here and now!"

CosmicCowboy
05-04-2005, 12:07 PM
Manu should wear one of these tonight just for Karl...

http://www.bikerheadwear.com/images/skullpix/Glow%20in%20dark/ZGL002.jpg

Doug Collins
05-04-2005, 01:34 PM
Karl would blame Ginobili for his 1994 loss to the 8th seeded nuggets if he could. Clearly Manu has ruined his life and any sense of rationality held within that sorry excuse of a John Lithgow impersonation.

Dingle Barry
05-04-2005, 01:45 PM
http://www.crazymofo.com/mofos/images2/qualen.jpg

Timothy Dunkan
05-04-2005, 07:33 PM
BoSox vs Yanks, almost same talent and winning record that year.

Spurs vs Nuggets, not same level by a wide margin.

Another weak motivational speech by crybaby Georgy....