the future..

[tothrowed]

So who do yall this is the next big 3 for the spurs, after manu,tim, & tony are gone? I say we've got 2 parts for the future next big 3' George hill, for sure is a part of the next big three and im sure dejuan blair will be to. So all we need is one more, Who do yall think that will be? - Malik? Splitter?

[200 miles]

why a big 3? why not a big 4?

[Kool Bob Love]

I don't give a F about the future....
WORRY about right now DUMMY...

[PURO SAN ANTO 210!]

Hopefully splitter but that's just hopefully! But we need more than that!

[the crimson blur]

George Hill pretty much is already part of the big 3 this year so he is most likely one of them. The others are pretty hard to tell.

If Malik or Splitter are part of our big 3, we aren't getting 10 wins.

[tothrowed]

I don't give a F about the future....
WORRY about right now DUMMY...
i feel ya but im just sayin cuz tim and tony and manu wont be here much longer

[Kool Bob Love]

i feel ya but im just sayin cuz tim and tony and manu wont be here much longer


Ok...Cool...
But good call for tonights game....:toast

[Manu-of-steel]

Ghill would be a big time player, and Blair would also be a reliable player. TP is still young, so we now have 3 young guns. But we need more reliable players for us to contend.

[Juanobili]

George Hill. Hopefully Tiago comes along. And maybe we get that other player in this year or next years draft

[Josepatches_]

George Hill is the only player who could be "big" in the future and it's not sure.

Blair is a great player but he's small and his health could be a problem.If he stays healthy and adds some jumpshots to his game he could be an all star one day but it will be pretty difficult

[draft87]

Not sure "the next big 3" is something to think about because the near future will feature either 2 parts of the current big 3, or the same big 3 but a team without all 3 or just one of them won't happen for quite some time. Besides, are we really up for comparing Duncan/Parker/Ginobili to Hill/Blair/___
big 1? big 1.5? ...movin on...

and as much as I'd rather just focus on this season, since we're bringing up "the future" I can't help but really wonder what the hell is going to happen this summer....
Has anyone looked at our roster next season?

We essentially have a starting 5 + Blair on the books for around $53 million
Duncan $19 million
Jefferson $15 million
Parker $13.5 million
McDyess $5 million
Hill $1.2 million

Blair $1 million

that's a huge chunk of change for 6 players. Factor in resigning Ginobili and we're over the cap with 7 players. At this point we pretty much have to give Ginobili whatever he wants, right? He gave us a discount and quick negotiation last time and will be coming off the recent heroics of this season so we don't want to insult him with a short/low ball offer when there will be a half dozen teams ready to offer him the cap space they weren't able to use on the 2010 free agency frenzy.
As much as we know the hypercompetitive Ginobili won't want to sign with the Nets, Clippers, Knicks, Kings just to get more dollars, we don't want to be too confident that he'll "give us a break" in order to build a roster and stay competitive in San Antonio.

All things considered I'm guessing we offer Ginobili 3 years $35 million, what do you think? It seems like way too much money but are the Spurs really going to say, "Yeah, we made you play the season for job security AND you need to take a pay cut."?????

Spurs 2011
7 players $65 million
What money will we have left to throw at Splitter?
We'll have nothing to offer free agents.

So that definitely means we pick up Hairston's option for under a million and maybe we're signing all these D-Leaguers anticipating this summer---- We fill the roster with short term, $1 million contracts. ...and of course the "Journeyman Vet, minimum contract" signings.

Is that the team we want to see make a final run with Duncan?

sounds scary, and it'll feel real shitty if trading for Jefferson(and then not being able to trade him again) means that we lose Ginobili and/or Parker. It doesn't seem too far fetched, consider the cap situation that we trade Parker in order to turn his contract into two or three mid-level salary role players that fill out the roster. UGH. i'm stopping now

[WalterBenitez]

why a big 3? why not a big 4?

I'm quite sure that fantastic "4" included a girl :p:

[WalterBenitez]

Seriouly speaking our future core should go to Hill, Blair, Splitter

[easy7]

Tony M - "Fuck the future"
Tony's Boss - " If you don't give a fuck about the future, the future will fuck you." :lmao

[admiralsnackbar]

Despite earning every cent of a bloated contract, I wouldn't be surprised if Manu again agreed to a moderate contract if the acquisition of Splitter hung in the balance.

Money, he has... his real ambitions (judging from his play and his career) are squarely set on securing his legacy as one of the most decorated and effective guards to play the game. At the very least, I don't think we need to worry that he feels disrespected by/vindictive toward the FO for not having his contract extended.

If we lose him, it will be because somebody offers him a spot on a squad that is more competitive than our own, in a community that is more appropriate for his wife and children. Since few teams can offer situations such as this to match the big money offers they will extend, it doesn't seem all that implausible that he'd stay in -- and sacrifice for -- the Spurs.

Guess we'll see.

[Muser]

Tiago, RC sounded quite confident that he will come over.

[tdunk21]

Tiago, RC sounded quite confident that he will come over.

yeah even i heard RC talkin yesterday in the rockets game sayin tiago is comin over next season and he compared tiago to anderson varejao of the cavs.....but varejao is not considered a star on the cavs roster....so the part of big 3 has to be someone else.....

[BillMc]

Not sure "the next big 3" is something to think about because the near future will feature either 2 parts of the current big 3, or the same big 3 but a team without all 3 or just one of them won't happen for quite some time. Besides, are we really up for comparing Duncan/Parker/Ginobili to Hill/Blair/___
big 1? big 1.5? ...movin on...

and as much as I'd rather just focus on this season, since we're bringing up "the future" I can't help but really wonder what the hell is going to happen this summer....
Has anyone looked at our roster next season?

We essentially have a starting 5 + Blair on the books for around $53 million
Duncan $19 million
Jefferson $15 million
Parker $13.5 million
McDyess $5 million
Hill $1.2 million

Blair $1 million

that's a huge chunk of change for 6 players. Factor in resigning Ginobili and we're over the cap with 7 players. At this point we pretty much have to give Ginobili whatever he wants, right? He gave us a discount and quick negotiation last time and will be coming off the recent heroics of this season so we don't want to insult him with a short/low ball offer when there will be a half dozen teams ready to offer him the cap space they weren't able to use on the 2010 free agency frenzy.
As much as we know the hypercompetitive Ginobili won't want to sign with the Nets, Clippers, Knicks, Kings just to get more dollars, we don't want to be too confident that he'll "give us a break" in order to build a roster and stay competitive in San Antonio.

All things considered I'm guessing we offer Ginobili 3 years $35 million, what do you think? It seems like way too much money but are the Spurs really going to say, "Yeah, we made you play the season for job security AND you need to take a pay cut."?????

Spurs 2011
7 players $65 million
What money will we have left to throw at Splitter?
We'll have nothing to offer free agents.

So that definitely means we pick up Hairston's option for under a million and maybe we're signing all these D-Leaguers anticipating this summer---- We fill the roster with short term, $1 million contracts. ...and of course the "Journeyman Vet, minimum contract" signings.

Is that the team we want to see make a final run with Duncan?

sounds scary, and it'll feel real shitty if trading for Jefferson(and then not being able to trade him again) means that we lose Ginobili and/or Parker. It doesn't seem too far fetched, consider the cap situation that we trade Parker in order to turn his contract into two or three mid-level salary role players that fill out the roster. UGH. i'm stopping now

This is an interesting and well-done post. I think how much we are will to spend NEXT YEAR will be determined by how well we do in the playoffs THIS Year. If we look like a team that can really play (advance deeply, take LA to 7 games, etc.) Holt may flip the bill again for a 70 million+ team. If not, if we flame out in the first round and don't look competitive. If Timmy looks done, then we may hit rebuilding mode. And the amount Holt will be willing to spend I would think would be much, much lower.

[Phenomanul]

It's difficult to speak of a "new big 3" when one considers they have big shoes to fill...

Our current "Big-3" triumvirate has one of the league's GOAT players, and two other all-stars...

Two of them are sure locks for the Basketball Hall of Fame...

I don't know if Hill, Blair, or Splitter will even make all-star squads...

[rascal]

So who do yall this is the next big 3 for the spurs, after manu,tim, & tony are gone? I say we've got 2 parts for the future next big 3' George hill, for sure is a part of the next big three and im sure dejuan blair will be to. So all we need is one more, Who do yall think that will be? - Malik? Splitter?

So you are saying ths spurs will not get any top players in the next 3 years.

[dbestpro]

I wonder what the next step is for Blair? Is this as much game as he will ever have? There is very little room to advance his inside game due to his size. How much can he improve outside if at all? He is still young but I get the feeling that Pop and company will not provide him the coaching needed to improve his game 10-20 feet out. If that is the case then should we be happy with a career 6 ppg 6 rpg player in Blair.

[honestfool84]

Parker.


:lol

[E-RockWill]

Spurs will concentrate on 3 things. 1- Re-signing Manu, 2- Signing Splitter, 3- filling in the wings w/ swingmen

[tothrowed]

i got a ? why the hell is dice signed next year for 5 millon dollars wtf

[jjktkk]

With Hill and Blair, you have two really good young players. Hairston, as well, has a good chance to be part of the future, if he continues to improve. You bring in Splitter next year, and Gist, whose been playing well overseas, and you have a nice young nucleus of players. And I also like the fact that this is suppose to be a deep draft.

[CGD]

i got a ? why the hell is dice signed next year for 5 millon dollars wtf

Why not? If I'm not mistaken his contract for the 3rd year is also partially guaranteed, so that makes him movable next year.

Plus at the time no one knew Blair would be Blair.

[Ocotillo]

With Hill and Blair, you have two really good young players. Hairston, as well, has a good chance to be part of the future, if he continues to improve. You bring in Splitter next year, and Gist, whose been playing well overseas, and you have a nice young nucleus of players. And I also like the fact that this is suppose to be a deep draft.


I doubt Gist is ever on our roster.

When you say "big three", do you simply mean the three best guys on the team or three top players in the league that make a team a contender?

Replacing Tim, Manu and Tony with Hill, Blair and (player to be named later) does not keep this team a contender. Hill looks like he is really growing into a solid player and despite being a bit undersized in the height department, his long arms and ability make him a potential member of "the big three" with Tony playing the point and Hill at the two.

Blair unless he really makes some strides in his game is playing where he likely will be best and that is energy big off the bench.

So assuming Parker and Hill are part of a big three, that leaves replacing Tim Duncan to complete the project. Therein lies the problem. You cannot replace Duncan with a draft pick (unless you win the lottery in the right year) nor will you sign a free agent that can replace him. You can get someone to take his place but he is one of the all time best if not the best at his position.

Keep in mind we have been searching for that long defensive minded three for five years now let alone replacing Tim Duncan.

[jjktkk]

I doubt Gist is ever on our roster.

When you say "big three", do you simply mean the three best guys on the team or three top players in the league that make a team a contender?

Replacing Tim, Manu and Tony with Hill, Blair and (player to be named later) does not keep this team a contender. Hill looks like he is really growing into a solid player and despite being a bit undersized in the height department, his long arms and ability make him a potential member of "the big three" with Tony playing the point and Hill at the two.

Blair unless he really makes some strides in his game is playing where he likely will be best and that is energy big off the bench.

So assuming Parker and Hill are part of a big three, that leaves replacing Tim Duncan to complete the project. Therein lies the problem. You cannot replace Duncan with a draft pick (unless you win the lottery in the right year) nor will you sign a free agent that can replace him. You can get someone to take his place but he is one of the all time best if not the best at his position.

Keep in mind we have been searching for that long defensive minded three for five years now let alone replacing Tim Duncan.

First of all, I never said anything about the "big three". In my post I brought up players who either are currently with the team, or have a chance to be on the team in the future. I'm curious as to why you doubt Gist will not have a chance to make the Spurs team next year? I agree replacing Duncan, once he retires, will be a huge task, but we already know how difficult that will be.

[AFBlue]

The future of this team after Ginobili and Duncan depart revolves around two things...Tony Parker and cap space.

As good of a player as Hill, Blair and even Splitter can be, none of them are franchise-type players like Parker. I would also put anyone the Spurs get in the next few drafts (mid-late first round picks) in that category as well.

Even if Tony Parker were traded (heaven forbid), the Spurs would demand a return that included a future franchise-type player...and they'd get it. So either way it still revolves around Tony.

And let's not forget the $$$. While it's possible Duncan extends his contract and playing career beyond it's current end date (2012), I think it's also possible he calls it a career. It's also probable that an extended Ginobili also has his contract run out in the same year. That would free up some pretty decent cap space for the Spurs to pursue a franchise-type player to go alongside Tony and crew.

All of these scenarios are educated guesses at best, but If I had to suggest the biggest factors, I think you start with Tony and Money.

[jjktkk]

The future of this team after Ginobili and Duncan depart revolves around two things...Tony Parker and cap space.

As good of a player as Hill, Blair and even Splitter can be, none of them are franchise-type players like Parker. I would also put anyone the Spurs get in the next few drafts (mid-late first round picks) in that category as well.

Even if Tony Parker were traded (heaven forbid), the Spurs would demand a return that included a future franchise-type player...and they'd get it. So either way it still revolves around Tony.

And let's not forget the $$$. While it's possible Duncan extends his contract and playing career beyond it's current end date (2012), I think it's also possible he calls it a career. It's also probable that an extended Ginobili also has his contract run out in the same year. That would free up some pretty decent cap space for the Spurs to pursue a franchise-type player to go alongside Tony and crew.

All of these scenarios are educated guesses at best, but If I had to suggest the biggest factors, I think you start with Tony and Money.

1st of all I'm a big Parker fan, but if the Spurs could find, thru a trade, a dominant big man, for example, Bosh, I would pull the trigger. Sounds crazy, and probably would never happen, but by all indications, Bosh is gonna leave Toronto this Summer. So maybe the Raptors fo gets desperate to move Bosh and will try to get something of value for him via a trade, like Parker. Just something to think about.

[stnick2261]

It'll be at least 3 years before we have to form a new big 3... at that time, Duncan, Jefferson and Manu will be gone which will free up a ton of cap space. We'll probably have a horrible year during that time and get a great draft pick. Parker will be at his very peak (or just past). Hill has shown that he can hang with the best. Blair and Splitter will both be serviceable, but not "big 3" worthy.

Parker/Hill/ (draft pick or FA) will be our big 3 in the future

[Waps1980]

Initially we need to get another big man, someone young.
I thought Dice was only signed for 1 year?
We need a defensive minded big cos that's where we lack.
Someone who can play along side Duncan or can fill the big guy in defense slot himself.
I think we generally have enough fire power.

In the future I can only see Hill as going to the next level.

[lennyalderette]

I don't give a F about the future....
WORRY about right now DUMMY...

you better worry about the future!!!! look at my thread

[WalterBenitez]

Not sure "the next big 3" is something to think about because the near future will feature either 2 parts of the current big 3, or the same big 3 but a team without all 3 or just one of them won't happen for quite some time. Besides, are we really up for comparing Duncan/Parker/Ginobili to Hill/Blair/___
big 1? big 1.5? ...movin on...

and as much as I'd rather just focus on this season, since we're bringing up "the future" I can't help but really wonder what the hell is going to happen this summer....
Has anyone looked at our roster next season?

We essentially have a starting 5 + Blair on the books for around $53 million
Duncan $19 million
Jefferson $15 million
Parker $13.5 million
McDyess $5 million
Hill $1.2 million

Blair $1 million

that's a huge chunk of change for 6 players. Factor in resigning Ginobili and we're over the cap with 7 players. At this point we pretty much have to give Ginobili whatever he wants, right? He gave us a discount and quick negotiation last time and will be coming off the recent heroics of this season so we don't want to insult him with a short/low ball offer when there will be a half dozen teams ready to offer him the cap space they weren't able to use on the 2010 free agency frenzy.
As much as we know the hypercompetitive Ginobili won't want to sign with the Nets, Clippers, Knicks, Kings just to get more dollars, we don't want to be too confident that he'll "give us a break" in order to build a roster and stay competitive in San Antonio.

All things considered I'm guessing we offer Ginobili 3 years $35 million, what do you think? It seems like way too much money but are the Spurs really going to say, "Yeah, we made you play the season for job security AND you need to take a pay cut."?????

Spurs 2011
7 players $65 million
What money will we have left to throw at Splitter?
We'll have nothing to offer free agents.

So that definitely means we pick up Hairston's option for under a million and maybe we're signing all these D-Leaguers anticipating this summer---- We fill the roster with short term, $1 million contracts. ...and of course the "Journeyman Vet, minimum contract" signings.

Is that the team we want to see make a final run with Duncan?

sounds scary, and it'll feel real shitty if trading for Jefferson(and then not being able to trade him again) means that we lose Ginobili and/or Parker. It doesn't seem too far fetched, consider the cap situation that we trade Parker in order to turn his contract into two or three mid-level salary role players that fill out the roster. UGH. i'm stopping now

With that scenario, have no room for Manu, I think SAS has to think about future, Manu would be expensive (I will hate seeing him in another Uniform), but there's no solution too much money around few players.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I'm of the persuasion that it doesn't have to necessarily be a "big 3." Look at the '99 team--Twin Towers and role players galore. And you'd be hard pressed to say the '03 team had a "big 3," with an aging Robinson, a young Parker, and NBA rookie Ginobili.

[BackHome]

Getting someone like David and Timmy is not going to happen in our life times. So with that said I would rather have the money going into a dominate SF or PF type of player. If Splitter is indeed comming over then looking at how well Hill is plalying PG I would look at trading Tony for a solid SF or SG and some draft picks.

[Sisk]

Why not? If I'm not mistaken his contract for the 3rd year is also partially guaranteed, so that makes him movable next year.

Plus at the time no one knew Blair would be Blair.

and we didn't think dice would suck this much

[TD 21]

Specifically for next season, I'm guessing...

-Ginobili is re-signed for 2 years/$20 million
- Bonner is re-signed for 2 years/$6.5 million
-Mason and Mahinmi are gone
-McDyess and Bogans are 50/50 to return
- In the case of McDyess, it's an either or between he and Splitter. They're not paying one of these guys $4.5 - (potentially) $5.5 million to be their fourth big.
-Obviously, the preference would be to bring over Splitter and if the Spurs are successful, then look for them to dump McDyess for a partially guaranteed contract or two that they can instantly waive and reap immediate savings, similar to the Jefferson trade (I've already pegged Jones of the Heat for this).
-In the case of Bogans, the Spurs will have limited resources to upgrade his role and the best realistic option is probably Bell, who the Spurs were known to be interested in earlier this season.
- Draft wise, 1st round look for either an athletic big (Udoh, Sanders, etc.) to be the pick or a three with defensive potential (George, Ebanks, etc.); 2nd round, best player available.
- The rest of the roster is likely to be fleshed out with young, minimum salaried young players from the D-League, such as Temple, Jerrells, Gee, etc.

[stnick2261]

^^^I think Manu prefers a contract with more years than money. We can offer him 4 years, other teams can only offer 3... even if the 4th year is not guaranteed

[AFBlue]

1st of all I'm a big Parker fan, but if the Spurs could find, thru a trade, a dominant big man, for example, Bosh, I would pull the trigger. Sounds crazy, and probably would never happen, but by all indications, Bosh is gonna leave Toronto this Summer. So maybe the Raptors fo gets desperate to move Bosh and will try to get something of value for him via a trade, like Parker. Just something to think about.

Trading Parker this off-season doesn't make much sense. He's had a down year (even if he does well in the playoffs), dealt with nagging injuries and his contract expires after next season...which means that there's no guarantee the team he'd be traded to would get to keep him long-term.

Dealing with the Bosh situation specifically, he'd have to turn down equal offers from Chicago, NY (both teams), LA (Clippers) and probably Miami to come to SA. Possible, but not likely at all.

I'm not sure I see a realistic scenario right now where the Spurs are willing to part with Parker.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Ghill would be a big time player, and Blair would also be a reliable player. TP is still young, so we now have 3 young guns. But we need more reliable players for us to contend.

Tony has a lot of miles on him already though. Once he loses even half a step he is done. I don't think he can be counted on for the future.

[AFBlue]

^^^I think Manu prefers a contract with more years than money. We can offer him 4 years, other teams can only offer 3... even if the 4th year is not guaranteed

If the Spurs or any other team offers Manu 4 years they're insane. The most I see any team giving is a fully guaranteed third year and/or an average salary over $10M/yr.

[AFBlue]

Tony has a lot of miles on him already though. Once he loses even half a step he is done. I don't think he can be counted on for the future.

Give me a break. The guy sits out a few weeks and some people forget just how amazing this kid is.

First of all, Tony isn't completely reliant on his speed to produce offensively, so the notion that "once he loses even half a step he is done" just doesn't bear out.

Second, Tony is still only 27 years old...I don't care how many miles he has on his legs. Kobe came straight out of high school and has played for the NT, yet at 31 no one talks about him being "done" or close to it.

There's no doubt that Tony will have to make some tough decisions (expect pressure from Spurs FO to keep him from NT) to remain a key piece for this team going forward, but to count this guy out of the Spurs' future is ridiculous.

[stnick2261]

If the Spurs or any other team offers Manu 4 years they're insane. The most I see any team giving is a fully guaranteed third year and/or an average salary over $10M/yr.

that's all I'm saying we give him.... 3 years fully guaranteed... and a 4th non-guaranteed. Front load the contract and he can either retire, or have a VERY moveable contract for trade

[Dr. Gonzo]

Give me a break. The guy sits out a few weeks and some people forget just how amazing this kid is.

First of all, Tony isn't completely reliant on his speed to produce offensively, so the notion that "once he loses even half a step he is done" just doesn't bear out.

Second, Tony is still only 27 years old...I don't care how many miles he has on his legs. Kobe came straight out of high school and has played for the NT, yet at 31 no one talks about him being "done" or close to it.

There's no doubt that Tony will have to make some tough decisions (expect pressure from Spurs FO to keep him from NT) to remain a key piece for this team going forward, but to count this guy out of the Spurs' future is ridiculous.

Tony does rely on his quickness more than anything. His jump shot is above average and he has absolutely no three point shot. So once he isn't as quick he won't draw in as many defenders and he won't be able to dump the ball off to a big for an easy score. He isn't a great assist PG like Nash or Kidd to be able to play well into his 30s.

Kobe has a great mid-range shot and he is a great all around scorer. Tony, as good as he is, won't be the same when he loses a step.

[tothrowed]

george hills j > tony parkers j , how much longer do yall see tony with us do yall thik he will stay here for his whole career

[AFBlue]

that's all I'm saying we give him.... 3 years fully guaranteed... and a 4th non-guaranteed. Front load the contract and he can either retire, or have a VERY moveable contract for trade

I'd say two fully guaranteed years and a partially guaranteed third should be able to prevent him from entering free agency.

[AFBlue]

Tony does rely on his quickness more than anything. His jump shot is above average and he has absolutely no three point shot. So once he isn't as quick he won't draw in as many defenders and he won't be able to dump the ball off to a big for an easy score. He isn't a great assist PG like Nash or Kidd to be able to play well into his 30s.

Kobe has a great mid-range shot and he is a great all around scorer. Tony, as good as he is, won't be the same when he loses a step.

Tony has continually improved his game since coming into the league and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect him to continue doing so (i.e. add a 3pt shot).

Also while his quickness is best utilized in the open court, it's not such a big component of the pick and roll game, which I would argue is where he's now most effective. Provided he has a good pick and roll partner post-Duncan, I think he'll be just fine.

[exstatic]

Initially we need to get another big man, someone young.
I thought Dice was only signed for 1 year?
We need a defensive minded big cos that's where we lack.
Someone who can play along side Duncan or can fill the big guy in defense slot himself.
I think we generally have enough fire power.

In the future I can only see Hill as going to the next level.

You can get a good wing around our draft position (~20) who could play in year one or two, but any big that falls that far will be a 2-3 year project and likely won't play minutes until Tim is gone. Unless a lottery projected big man falls to us for the second year in a row (not likely) the Spurs will probably grab the best SG/SF available.

[TimmehC]

george hills j > tony parkers j

Ummm, no. You can say that about the three ball, but Tony's midrange J the last couplle years has been one of the best in the league. George definitely isn't there yet with the midrange game, but he's closer than Tony was in year 2.

[Ocotillo]

First of all, I never said anything about the "big three". In my post I brought up players who either are currently with the team, or have a chance to be on the team in the future. I'm curious as to why you doubt Gist will not have a chance to make the Spurs team next year? I agree replacing Duncan, once he retires, will be a huge task, but we already know how difficult that will be.

Granted things can change but in summer league it seemed like he had regressed compared to his first summer camp. If he makes the team, it's only because they are signing him to work in Austin and are seeing something I did not (which I confess is easily possible).

[Ocotillo]

Heck, I'm still holding out hope Sankidze shows up for summer league.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Ummm, no. You can say that about the three ball, but Tony's midrange J the last couplle years has been one of the best in the league. George definitely isn't there yet with the midrange game, but he's closer than Tony was in year 2.

You are delusional if you think Tony Parker is the best mid-range shooter in the league.

[TJastal]

Tony has continually improved his game since coming into the league and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect him to continue doing so (i.e. add a 3pt shot).

Also while his quickness is best utilized in the open court, it's not such a big component of the pick and roll game, which I would argue is where he's now most effective. Provided he has a good pick and roll partner post-Duncan, I think he'll be just fine.

If he ain't got a 3pt shot yet after 9 years in the league I doubt its gonna happen.

[AFBlue]

If he ain't got a 3pt shot yet after 9 years in the league I doubt its gonna happen.

Beg to differ with just two words...

Jason Kidd.

[TJastal]

Beg to differ with just two words...

Jason Kidd.

Parker's 3pt attempts per season

189, 243, 199, 156, 36, 38, 66, 65, 30

Notice a trend here?

[PublicOption]

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[AFBlue]

Parker's 3pt attempts per season

189, 243, 199, 156, 36, 38, 66, 65, 30

Notice a trend here?

Your point is?

A couple seasons ago he was hitting 3s at a 40% clip even if he wasn't taking all that many. He was also experimenting with taking more 3s in his NT time.

Right now it's not a regular part of his game (hence the downward trend of attempts), but there's no reason to think he doesn't have the ability.

If Parker is asked to add a three pointer to his everyday arsenal to make the team better, I have no doubt he'll be able to do it.

[PublicOption]

if you stop shooting from the 3 pt line then teams will scout you and play soft on the perimeter and sag. that will clog the lane up and make things difficult. I say trade parker or bring him off the bench...he is a one dimensional player and everyone knows it.