UFC 112: Invincible April 10, 2010

[dbreiden83080]

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Main Card

Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Demian Maia
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Frankie Edgar
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Mark Munoz


Preliminary Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Alexander Gustafsson vs. Phil Davis
Lightweight bout: Paul Taylor vs. John Gunderson
Welterweight bout: Nick Osipczak vs. Rick Story
Welterweight bout: DaMarques Johnson vs. Brad Blackburn
Lightweight bout: Paul Kelly vs. Matt Veach

[CubanSucks]

I was really looking forward to ordering this with a couple of my friends until I realized it's the same weekend me and my dad are coming down to see a Spurs game. Oh well, can't really complain about going to a Spurs game

[BlackSwordsMan]

best card in a while

[Rip-Hamilton32]

good to see Kendall Grove back

[desflood]

This card doesn't really do it for me. The main event and co-main event are both gimmes. 113 and 114 are more exciting, imho.

[Soul_Patch]

You guys think Maia has any chance against Silva? If he can get past his strikes and get him down, i give the fight to him. Seeing as how he got handled with strikes in about 20 seconds the last time i saw him fight, i have my doubts.

[Stringer_Bell]

best card in a while

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but definitely not one of the better cards in recent memory. The Champions are not defending against legitimate contenders (sorry, but it's the truth) and there's no telling where Hughes and Gracie are anymore (though very respected as fighters).

It's a good card if you like one-sided ass kicking, but a bad card if you like competition.

[CubanSucks]

You guys think Maia has any chance against Silva? If he can get past his strikes and get him down, i give the fight to him. Seeing as how he got handled with strikes in about 20 seconds the last time i saw him fight, i have my doubts.

I wouldn't have called it "getting handled with strikes". A one punch loss isn't that unimpressive to me. Not calling Marquardt lucky but I didn't see it as dominating

[The TroutBum]

Maia will shock the world.

[dbreiden83080]

Maia will shock the world.

If he gets it down, then he could.. We'll see how Silva approaches this one..

[The TroutBum]

If he gets it down, then he could.. We'll see how Silva approaches this one..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=267i7rKeECA
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9mgLIdEXqUk&feature=related
ANYTHING is possible. (I really could have intercourse with this video)

[BlackSwordsMan]

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but definitely not one of the better cards in recent memory. The Champions are not defending against legitimate contenders (sorry, but it's the truth) and there's no telling where Hughes and Gracie are anymore (though very respected as fighters).

It's a good card if you like one-sided ass kicking, but a bad card if you like competition.

im just glad to see bj penn and anderson I agree their competition is shitty but these are the only two fights I'd like to see

[dallaskd]

Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Demian Maia
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Frankie Edgar
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Mark Munoz

[dallaskd]

If he gets it down, then he could.. We'll see how Silva approaches this one..

No chance. Silva is the Ali of mma right now. As untouchable as it gets.. No one all the way up to HW can touch him

[CubanSucks]

No chance. Silva is the Ali of mma right now. As untouchable as it gets.. No one all the way up to HW can touch him

For every Ali there's a Frazier. :hat

[djohn14]

Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Demian Maia--Yeah...sorry Demian
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Frankie Edgar--HAHAHAHA. Frankies a nice fighter...but please
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Light Heavyweight bout: Alexander Gustafsson vs. Phil Davis--Just had to pick Phil Davis...he has a bright future!

[ATRAIN]

Id really like to see Maia take this fight to the ground and see if he can beat Silva

[Stringer_Bell]

Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Demian Maia
- Silva will punish him, but there's always a chance of submission even when the window is very small and Maia must work quickly if he wants it.
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Frankie Edgar
- There might be a delay before the Silva match while the crew cleans Edgar's face off the octagon floor.
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
- I think Hughes is stronger and gets a decision, but Renzo's a cool dude.
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos
- Been waiting for Etim to get a legit spot on a card, he's finished his last 3 fights and his length has made sure he's never been finished himself. Strikes is the only way Anjos can get a win, I don't see Etim letting him get in close enough.
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Mark Munoz
- Pretty even match-up, but Munoz has a real chance to get to the next level with a good win here.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

Silva
Penn
Etim
Grove
Hughes

[dbreiden83080]

Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Demian Maia
Could be boring if Silva waits this out or could be quick if Maia is dumb enough to push the pace like he did with Nate and got KTFO..

Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Frankie Edgar
Easy fight for BJ, there is no real competiton for him at LW anymore..

Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
Boring fight, Hughes needs to fight some contenders or call it a career already.

Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos

Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Mark Munoz

[dallaskd]

Nice delete DB, but no way Lesnar or Carwin stand a chance vs Anderson. He is way to fast. Silva would bob and weave any slow ass punch they bring and counter with a 3 piece. Im not sure he could finish either one unless he lands a solid blow to the jaw or gets a cut but Silva wins 9 out of 10. To fast to get taken down.

[dbreiden83080]

Nice delete DB, but no way Lesnar or Carwin stand a chance vs Anderson. He is way to fast. Silva would bob and weave any slow ass punch they bring and counter with a 3 piece. Im not sure he could finish either one unless he lands a solid blow to the jaw or gets a cut but Silva wins 9 out of 10. To fast to get taken down.

So you were including HW, i was not sure if i misread that so i deleted it..

But. IF Anderson gets taken down by Thale Leites and held down then Brock is going to rape his ass. Watch the Thales fight and you'll see what i mean. I don't care if Thales held him down for 3 seconds, imagine what Brock will do?? Hendo got him down and won Round 1 against Anderson. Anderson could hang with HW guys who are strikers but not the great wrestlers and GNP guys. Sure he wants to fight Mir, because his wrestling is shit and he knows he is a better striker. Anderson is amazing, nobody is saying otherwise, but there are weight classes for a reason. What Brock did to Mir, he does to Anderson

Takedown, does damage in half guard, works him to the cage, short punches

KO night night..

[dallaskd]

So you were including HW, i was not sure if i misread that so i deleted it..

But. IF Anderson gets taken down by Thale Leites and held down then Brock is going to rape his ass. Watch the Thales fight and you'll see what i mean. I don't care if Thales held him down for 3 seconds, imagine what Brock will do?? Hendo got him down and won Round 1 against Anderson. Anderson could hang with HW guys who are strikers but not the great wrestlers and GNP guys. Sure he wants to fight Mir, because his wrestling is shit and he knows he is a better striker. Anderson is amazing, nobody is saying otherwise, but there are weight classes for a reason. What Brock did to Mir, he does to Anderson

Takedown, does damage in half guard, works him to the cage, short punches

KO night night..

Lesnar's shot is not quick enough to take down Anderson. And Brock wants nothing to do with that clinch. And frank mir is irrelevant. silva would destroy him

[CubanSucks]

Anyone who says Spider can honestly hang in there with Lesnar, and win no less, better be joking. Like db said there are weight classes for a reason

[Stringer_Bell]

Silva would be smothered by Carwin and Brock, and Cain would toss him like a baby. Silva's power and speed works on guys his size, not the big boys.

[dbreiden83080]

Silva would be smothered by Carwin and Brock, and Cain would toss him like a baby. Silva's power and speed works on guys his size, not the big boys.


Anyone who says Spider can honestly hang in there with Lesnar, and win no less, better be joking. Like db said there are weight classes for a reason

Yep Yep

Mir weighed 250 pds at UFC 100 and has the best BJJ in the division along with Nog. Brock took him down and shredded his guard to pieces..

[dallaskd]

LOL im guessing Fedor would get smothered by them too? And was Couture smothered by Lesnar?

well anyways.. you guys are dry, enjoy your saturday night on the internet forum

[The TroutBum]

LOL im guessing Fedor would get smothered by them too? And was Couture smothered by Lesnar?

well anyways.. you guys are dry, enjoy your saturday night on the internet forum

LOL, what a bitch ass reply.

[dbreiden83080]

LOL, what a bitch ass reply.

:lol

[CubanSucks]

LOL im guessing Fedor would get smothered by them too? And was Couture smothered by Lesnar?

well anyways.. you guys are dry, enjoy your saturday night on the internet forum

You're comparing Fedor who's around 230, and Couture who's a natural wrestler, to a guy who can cut down to 185?

[polandprzem]

Another thing is that Anderson would not be that fast in the cage at 230

I also do thinik that if hendo could hold Anderson on the ground then the wrestlers 50punds hevier can making some damage.

Let spider first win the lhw belt

[djohn14]

I really dont know what I think Anderson could do at HW. I feel at the very worst he would be a very good fighter there. Anderson is obviously the best at 185, and I think if he moved up to 205 he'd be the best there too. Regardless of what Anderson Silva could or couldnt accomplish at the HW division...I see him as being the best MMA fighter alive today.

[ATRAIN]

LMAO Dallas you cant be serious can you?? Brock is very fast for his size. Look at the way he bull rushes against Heath Herring. If Brock speared anderson he would tear him in half.

[dbreiden83080]

LMAO Dallas you cant be serious can you?? Brock is very fast for his size. Look at the way he bull rushes against Heath Herring. If Brock speared anderson he would tear him in half.

Yes lets all take a look at how slow Brock is..

http://a166.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/50/l_0a4692c9447544427b3a774ce19181cd.gif

[cornbread]

Brock ran a 4.7 40 when he tried out for the NFL. It's been a few years since then but that's damn quick for a UFC HW.

[BlackSwordsMan]

yup and somehow still didn't make the team

[dbreiden83080]

yup and somehow still didn't make the team

he had no real background in football.

[ATRAIN]

So did Dallas take his ball and go home?

[desflood]

Championship bout: Anderson Silva vs. Demian Maia
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn vs. Frankie Edgar
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Mark Munoz

[polandprzem]

Main Card

Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Demian Maia
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Frankie Edgar
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Mark Munoz


Preliminary Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Alexander Gustafsson vs. Phil Davis
Lightweight bout: Paul Taylor vs. John Gunderson
Welterweight bout: Nick Osipczak vs. Rick Story
Welterweight bout: DaMarques Johnson vs. Brad Blackburn
Lightweight bout: Paul Kelly vs. Matt Veach

[dbreiden83080]

Main Card

Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Demian Maia
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Frankie Edgar
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Mark Munoz

[polandprzem]

You guys and girls gonna watch it live? Or on a rerun?

[dbreiden83080]

Penn focused on task at hand

Every so often, even the great ones need a tap on the shoulder -- a reminder of what it took to become an elite fighter.

UFC welterweight champion B.J. Penn received a harsh reminder at UFC 94. on that night, Penn revisited the welterweight division for a rematch with titleholder Georges St. Pierre.

For much of the bout, Penn was repeatedly thrown to the ground and beaten up. The manhandling was so severe that Penn's cornermen and a ringside physician were forced to step in and call it off.

As emotionally draining as that loss was for Penn (he'd also lost his first encounter with St. Pierre), something positive came out of the experience -- his motivation level reached an all-time high.

Penn is reinvigorated and determined to find out just how good a fighter he can be.

In the past, Penn was criticized for not completely dedicating himself to mixed martial arts. That isn't the case anymore.

Penn is now fully dedicated to his profession. He trains harder and pays more attention to details. His entire game has been refined, mentally and physically.

Since the loss to St. Pierre, Penn has literally gone unchallenged. He overpowered Kenny Florian en route to a submission win at UFC 101, then overwhelmed Diego Sanchez for nearly five full rounds at UFC 107 before finishing him with seconds remaining in that fight.

Penn takes no more shortcuts; now everyone gets his best shot. He plans to continue that trend Saturday at UFC 112 in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, against Frankie Edgar.

Penn (15-5-1) is a huge favorite, but unlike in the days before his rematch with St. Pierre, he refuses to look beyond the fight at hand. Edgar isn't getting any breaks; he has Penn's full attention.

"Frankie Edgar is not the guy to look past," Penn told ESPN.com during a recent conference call. "Anybody who looks past Frankie Edgar is going to end up with another loss on their record … this isn't the guy you play around with.

"Frankie is a great opponent. I just have to go out and do my best."

Penn is the naturally larger man, a more refined puncher, has unmatched jiu-jitsu skills and has been in many title bouts. If it seems that Penn is approaching Edgar with some caution, he is.

Edgar is the better wrestler, but that discipline isn't likely to be on display often in this bout. These two mixed martial artists will spend a significant portion of their time Saturday exchanging punches and kicks.

Trading strikes won't necessarily be a bad thing for Edgar, who will make his first UFC title bout appearance. Like Penn, he has used a loss to redefine his game.

Since coming up short against a much larger Gray Maynard in April 2008, the first setback of his UFC career, Edgar has improved his boxing skills to the point where he is extremely confident utilizing that area of his game.

His confidence will be tested by Penn, who is also very skilled with his hands. Penn will also have a 3-inch height advantage.


Frankie Edgar plans to put his fists to good use against B.J. Penn.

Edgar, a resident of Toms River, N.J., is a diminutive lightweight by any standard, but that hasn't prevented him from becoming one of the division's top contenders. What Edgar lacks in size, he makes up with speed: He is quick-footed and possesses fast hands and elusive defensive skills. And he transitions from one discipline to the next as well as anyone in the sport.

Edgar plans to use every one of these assets against Penn. The champ will get Edgar's A-game.

"I've got to be the best fighter I can be," said Edgar (11-1). "I've got to make sure my boxing is good, my Muay Thai is good, my wrestling and jiu-jitsu is good. I've got to be the best I can when I fight April 10.

"I'm not going into this fight to lose. I'm going in there to try to win … that's what I'm going in there to do. Obviously, it's a tough task, beating B.J. Penn."

It's a task made tougher by Penn's newfound commitment. He has several goals, one of which is to retain his 155-pound title; another is returning to the 170-pound ranks.

Penn, a former UFC welterweight champion, makes no bones about his desire to compete at 170. It's part of what motivates him to defeat Edgar.

"Yes, if everything goes well on [Saturday] I definitely would consider moving up to 170. Not that it's 100 percent guaranteed," Penn said. "There's still a lot of good contenders in the 155-pound division, but I'm thinking about it.

"If I do make that move, I'm going to move slow. I'm not going to try to rush anything.

"I'd talk to Dana [White] and see if he would want me to vacate the belt, but maybe try to do something like [middleweight champ] Anderson [Silva] is doing, you test the waters … and see how everything plays out."

If Penn is victorious at UFC 112, White surely will grant his wish to compete at 170, but there are a few stipulations -- he must vacate the lightweight belt and immediately face stiff competition. White no longer favors champions competing in several weight classes simultaneously, nor does he intend to make life in another division easy for them.

Those days are over.

"Nobody is going to hold their belt and move around," White told ESPN.com recently in New York. "They're either going to give up the belt or stay at that weight. … [Penn] would have to give up the belt and fight at 170.

"B.J. Penn is the best B.J. Penn I have ever seen right now. This kid is in shape, focused and hungry. If he comes in [the welterweight division], he will fight one of the top contenders, and [U]if he wins that, he earns the opportunity to fight Georges St. Pierre." :lol



Penn might soon have a big decision to make regarding his future. The old Penn would have already begun concentrating on that issue; the new Penn won't make such a mistake.

He will have one thing on his mind Saturday night: beating Edgar. If Penn succeeds, only then will he begin contemplating his next move.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5057906

[The TroutBum]

My picks:

Maia
Edgar
Gracie
Grove

[polandprzem]

2 and half an hour .. can't wait!!!!

[Stringer_Bell]

2 and half an hour .. can't wait!!!!

Ohhh snap, I totally forgot about the time difference.

I briefly caught the UFC preview show and I gotta say Frankie Edgar is still gonna be broken in 1/2, but it'll be fun to see Renzo's master technique against whatever Hughes has left in him.

[desflood]

You guys and girls gonna watch it live? Or on a rerun?
Not sure. Would like to watch it live, but the old man is gone today and that leaves me outnumbered 3 to 1. :lol

[redzero]

Hughes-Gracie was the fight of the ages.

[polandprzem]

time for maia

[polandprzem]

damn i wanted to change my pred to edgar neeewwwww champ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[dbreiden83080]

Frankie Edgar is the new LW champ

WOW!!!!

[redzero]

lol BJ Penn not showing up.

[dbreiden83080]

As great as he is Anderson's in fight clowning antics, are friggin embarassing..

[redzero]

Anderson just doesn't care. He spent most of the second round taunting.

[dbreiden83080]

Silva fight fuckin blows

Makes GSP/Hardy look like the best fight ever

[BlackSwordsMan]

What
a
fucking
joke

[redzero]

I'd be MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD if I paid to see this.

[BlackSwordsMan]

i wouldnt be surprised if some muslims blew up the ocatgon

[polandprzem]

anderson is a joke !

I told you that and he is saying it won't happen again for thje forth time or so


Fedor would dispatch him- lesnar? carwin?


let him fight shogun frickin clown



now where is oligarchy this anderson entertainment fan?

[polandprzem]

:hat
As great as he is Anderson's in fight clowning antics, are friggin embarassing..
100% agree and I told you after the cote fight


where is belford? :)

[dbreiden83080]

I really don't care how much shit i get for this..

Silva spends more time dicking around in the cage then fighting these days.. Unless you are Forrest going after him with the stand-up he just toys around and doesn't attack. He spent the whole 2nd round, yelling at Maia and making stupid gestures to him. GSP just got shit for using his wrestling too much and not finishing and we see this of Silva and say what??

I say it was garbage, that's what...

[polandprzem]

GSP was working all the time, all fight


be baq 2morrow

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Anybody have a link to the post-fight presser? I usually seem them being posted, but people are so worried about spoiling the results, I've yet to see any.

[The TroutBum]

Holy fucking shit. I had NO idea that the fights already happened... until I just read all the spoilers.

/facepalm

At least that butt fuck Penn lost, boo ya on THAT correct pick!

[dbreiden83080]

Holy fucking shit. I had NO idea that the fights already happened... until I just read all the spoilers.

/facepalm

At least that butt fuck Penn lost, boo ya on THAT correct pick!

Penn looked awful.

I had 48-47 Edgar but could have gone too Penn. One had it 50-45 for Frankie, that was wrong..


But BJ and any 170 plans are gone as are any illusions of another GSP fight..

[Stringer_Bell]

-Munoz/Grove was a good fight, great way to start off the card.

-I was sure until the 5th round that BJ was just screwing around with Edgar, but WOW...Edgar went Shogun tonight with a good strategy, good cardio, and knowing when not to get too greedy. Definitely not the way I wanted to see BJ lose, I think he was injured before the fight but he tried to work through it and I haven't heard any excuses from him. Now he can move up to WW and seek vengeance against GSP (and my boy Diego will stop him before he gets there)!

- In the first two rounds of the Silva fight, we all learned that the best defense is a good offense. The dude was scary good, even just standing in place it's like he could destroy you from ANY angle. Then he went into little bitch mode, again. Congrats to Maia for keeping his cool, I know I would've rushed in out of being pissed off. Plus, Maia did more fighting in 1 minute than Silva did the whole match. If Silva wants to be a comedian, I want to see him laugh at them giving Maia the belt out of principal since he really did do more fighting than Silva.

I hope GSP piledrives Silva if they fight. Anyway, knew this card would be a waste compared to the recent ones. Next one should be legit tho!

Also, props to poland and dbreiden!

[BlackSwordsMan]

Holy fucking shit. I had NO idea that the fights already happened... until I just read all the spoilers.

/facepalm

At least that butt fuck Penn lost, boo ya on THAT correct pick!

seriously you didnt miss shit but frustration

[dbreiden83080]

Silva really made a fool of himself in there. If you are bored by your opponent than attack him, don't yell at him.


This is a fight not an argument..

[dbreiden83080]

2-3 on the picks for me, i am like 16-14 overall

Getting my ass kicked so far this season..

[The TroutBum]

Anyone have a link of the fights? I've decided to save my five bucks and stay home tonight and play Warcraft, but I'd still like to see Penn lose. (that butt fuck)

[dbreiden83080]

Anyone have a link of the fights? I've decided to save my five bucks and stay home tonight and play Warcraft, but I'd still like to see Penn lose. (that butt fuck)

Check around with the typical search functions but stay away from MMA Core

It is infested with Spyware these days..

[dbreiden83080]

Ariel Helwani (arielhelwani) on Twitter

Taken from helwani's twitter, which he is updating with what is going on at the press conference right now.

Dana seems real upset.

"To end it the way that we did was an embarrasment for me, the ufc, the fertittas, the ufc"

"I will, I dont know how yet, but I will make this up to the fans"

"iF YOU'RE that talented, be mike tyson. go in there and finish"

"this one took the cake" - when asked if this was more embarrassing than 97

" I don't want to see GSP vs. Silva after tonight. Silva might be the first champion fighting on a prelim. I don't want to see that sh*t"

" I wouldnt come here if I was (anderson)"

"For something like this happen, I honestly ... I apologize and I'm embarrassed"

Dana says the Vitor fight would have been more challenging. Thinks Maia might have broken his nose.
__________________

[MannyIsGod]

Glad to hear Edgar won. I'll have to watch it later. Love Frankie.

[dbreiden83080]

Glad to hear Edgar won. I'll have to watch it later. Love Frankie.

Big props to Edgar

Fought one hell of a fight.. I expect loads of excuses from BJ

[Stringer_Bell]

Big props to Edgar

Fought one hell of a fight.. I expect loads of excuses from BJ

I don't like BJ, but I think his performance spoke for itself. Kenny/Diego would have wiped the floor with Edgar..and he somehow got a victory? It's also an easy out for Penn to chase other fights in other divisions, it's been a long time since he's lost at LW.

If Anderson wants to be a clown, and Dana wants to punish him AND at the same time make Jon Jones wait a year for a title shot AND give back to the fans...make Silva vs Jon Jones for free on TV. :ihit

[dbreiden83080]

now where is oligarchy this anderson entertainment fan?

I'm sure he'll come trolling in here, attack anyone who does not agree with him with 4 year old insults and then slink off again for a few weeks..

[dbreiden83080]

I don't like BJ, but I think his performance spoke for itself. Kenny/Diego would have wiped the floor with Edgar..and he somehow got a victory? It's also an easy out for Penn to chase other fights in other divisions, it's been a long time since he's lost at LW.

If Anderson wants to be a clown, and Dana wants to punish him AND at the same time make Jon Jones wait a year for a title shot AND give back to the fans...make Silva vs Jon Jones for free on TV. :ihit

I think Penn going back to WW is dead now..

He lost to Edgar, think of what Alves would do to him..

[djohn14]

Haha Anderson Silva is still the best MMA fighter in the world

[djohn14]

Btw, no I havent watched the fights, but I still believe hes the best

[dbreiden83080]

Btw, no I havent watched the fights, but I still believe hes the best

He spends more time goofing off then throwing punches.. And i am so beyond sick of him bowing to his foes like he respects them and then has hissy fits at them in the ring..

Silva is an ass-hole

Bottom line..

[dbreiden83080]

Haha Anderson Silva is still the best MMA fighter in the world

The way Dana is talking if he wasn't champ

He'd be cut..

[HarlemHeat37]

I understand the hate for Silva's antics, but speaking for myself, I love it..I fully understand why somebody would be angry after paying 50$ or whatever it is..I love seeing taunting and disrespect though, it's one of my favorite parts of fighting..

Silva is the best, and I doubt he'll be humbled until somebody beats him or comes really close to beating him..

[dbreiden83080]

I understand the hate for Silva's antics, but speaking for myself, I love it..I fully understand why somebody would be angry after paying 50$ or whatever it is..I love seeing taunting and disrespect though, it's one of my favorite parts of fighting..

Silva is the best, and I doubt he'll be humbled until somebody beats him or comes really close to beating him..

Well if you see the fight you'll see what i mean about Silva. I am not kidding he spent most of round 2 yelling at Maia and making goofy gestures at him. If you are so unimpressed by what he is offering, engage and knock him the hell out.. IS this a fight or a debate? People that were all over GSP about wrestling Hardy too much. Did GSP take hardy down and then bitch at him about his lousy takedown defense for a whole round? Dana is calling this an epic embarassment and he's right

For once..

Sherdog play by play

Silva is frustrated with Maia’s lack of gameness. Silva waves him on angrily and Maia refuses to be baited in. The crowd boos as Silva just stands stationary, waving his opponent on. Silva grows more angry as he screams at Maia to bring it on. This is such a strange scene. Silva continues to voice his displeasure and then he kicks Maia’s feet right out from under him. :rolleyes

[djohn14]

Well....on a brighter note...Did they show Phil Davis's fight?

[Blackjack]

Unrepentant Silva makes mockery of sport (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AvR4JxswOLcgxi0QfQd7zPQ9Eo14?slug=ki-ufcsilva041010)
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates – As the fourth round ended in the middleweight championship fight on Saturday at UFC 112 at Ferrari World, Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White picked up Anderson Silva’s title belt and tossed it in the direction of Silva’s manager, Ed Soares.

White was nearly becoming physically ill watching Silva clown in the cage and avoid fighting. He wanted nothing to do with presenting the champion with his belt after the fight with Demian Maia ended.

Silva pranced around the ring, making odd motions and strange faces, banging the mat, running in circles and generally behaving as if he had no understanding that people paid significant money to watch him fight.

He looked like a fool and he disrespected his opponent, the sport, his employers and, most significantly, a live crowd which paid a gate of $3.5 million as well as the hundreds of thousands of people who purchased the pay-per-view to watch him.

White seethed at the postfight news conference and tossed verbal hand grenades in Silva’s direction. After meeting with reporters following the news conference, White headed to Silva’s trailer for a showdown.

He said he didn’t know how he would punish Silva, who won by scores of 50-45, 50-45 and 49-46, but said he would find a way to make it up to the fans for having to sit through such a poor, confounding main event.

Perhaps the best way White can get even with Silva, who was defiant at the postfight news conference, is to have Silva fight on the card he is planning to benefit the military in Afghanistan.

White looked extraordinarily angry when he walked into the room and didn’t pull any punches when he began to speak.

“I’ll answer the questions about what a disgrace the main event was and what an embarrassment it is,” White said almost immediately upon taking the lectern postfight. “I don’t think I’ve ever been more embarrassed in 10 years of being in this business. It’s the first time I’ve ever walked out of a main event.”

By the time the fifth round was winding to a close, the sellout crowd of 11,008 was chanting Maia’s name.

Silva meekly apologized in the cage in an interview with television analyst Joe Rogan, but he struck a more defiant chord at the postfight news conference.

“Unfortunately, not every fight turns out the way everyone would like,” Silva said through Soares, who was interpreting for him. “I came here well-trained, but Demian disrespected me, not as a person, but he disrespected me as a fighter. I take that very seriously. I came here to do my job, which was to beat him up and punish him. That’s exactly what I did.”

Silva dodged the question several times, but finally said vaguely that he felt Maia disrespected him in prefight interviews when Maia, a jiu-jitsu black belt, talked about breaking his arm.

What didn’t make sense about Silva’s answer was that if he felt disrespected was that he spent much of the last three rounds running and clowning and not punching or kicking. He had the opportunity to make Maia pay for his words, if Maia actually said anything incendiary, but he chose instead to circle, wiggle his back side, make faces and essentially make a fool out of anyone who either purchased a ticket or bought the pay-per-view.

“The way I feel, my mission was completed,” Silva said. “I came in and dominated the fight and did what I had to do. That’s how I feel.”

Silva was clearly a far better fighter than Maia, whose only hope of winning was to somehow get the fight to the ground and catch Silva in a submission hold. Silva was faster and could nearly land his punches at will.

He had a far more varied attack and broke Maia’s nose with a flying knee in the second.

The highlights for Silva, though, lessened as the fight wore on and he spent more time mocking Maia and making a jackass of himself.

His actions will have deep repercussions. For one, the fight was aired live in the U.S. at 1 p.m. ET, but was still going to be replayed in its normal pay-per-view time slot beginning at 10 p.m. ET.

Fans who may have purchased the fight in its normal slot likely didn’t buy it after catching word of Silva’s antics.

Even more, Silva did the same thing at UFC 90 and then had a lackluster performance at UFC 97.

White glared at Silva as Silva answered questions from the media. Clearly, Silva’s words did not soothe his boss’ feelings.

“I’m more unhappy than I was when I walked in the door,” White said after hearing Silva’s lame answers at the news conference. “That’s why I ended the news conference. I couldn’t stand to listen to that [expletive] any more.”

Silva cost himself a big chunk of his reputation as well as a lot of money. He lost the respect of the ownership of the UFC, who were embarrassed in front of their new partners, the investment group from Abu Dhabi who bought a reported 10 percent of the company.

He may have lost his status as the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

He lost his opportunity to drop to welterweight as he said he wanted to do before the fight and challenge 170-pound champion Georges St. Pierre.

“He doesn’t deserve to fight GSP,” White fairly spat.

Early in the news conference, White said Silva might become the first champion to fight on the preliminary card.

Wherever he fights, Silva had better pray that White stacks the card with a lot of fights people want to see.

Because if Anderson Silva is the main attraction, don’t be shocked if the fans stay away in droves.

[Stringer_Bell]

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Dana is pissed, really showing a lot of humility in yet another Silva debacle. Silva always talks about not wanting to be seen as disrespectful, but his actions speak for him every time. I bet Dana will pull the plug on the whole "Silva doesn't speak English" charade. Pathetic.

[dbreiden83080]

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Dana calls this all time low point

[dbreiden83080]

Q2wlP_Vj3W0

Dana is pissed, really showing a lot of humility in yet another Silva debacle. Silva always talks about not wanting to be seen as disrespectful, but his actions speak for him every time. I bet Dana will pull the plug on the whole "Silva doesn't speak English" charade. Pathetic.

LOL beat me to it Stringer :lol


You know Dana had it out with Silva after the Thales fight and he says he is going to do it again but Silva obviously does not care what Dana thinks. He acts this way because he wants to and it's pretty clear nothing Dana or the fans say is going to change what he does in that ring. If he wants to act like a jerk he will and the hell with everyone..

[Blackjack]

I understand the frustration having just sold a stake in the business and opening up a new market, but you can't cut the nose to spite the face.

Silva needs to be pushed. Period. And like the antics or not, he's the best there is IMO. So if you want to get the most out of him and put on the best show for all involved, you make that GSP fight; someone's got to put him in his place or provide the challenge that makes Silva display the type of talent he has.

As a Silva fan, I'm not real thrilled with what I've heard (haven't been able to see it yet) but I'm not all that surprised either; we've seen the general apathy and antics before. But I'm a fan because of his talent and ability and want to see it on display.

And if White and the UFC knows what's good for them ... they'll do the right thing: Silva vs. GSP

[dbreiden83080]

They were talking SIlva and GSP at 170 at the event as if it was a done deal. Silva fighting at 170 seems unlikely but possible since he has been down that low before. But i still feel that would have to happen at 185. Silva may just get another fight at 205 with a striker that will go after him. But problem is they saw what happened with Forrest and attacking Silva is not going to be in many game-plans..

So we're left with Silva dancing and clowning around again

[Blackjack]

Exactly. There's no one I see out there that presents both the style and talent to push Silva and/or provide an entertaining fight. If it happens at 185, fine by me; I don't think GSP would have a problem there. They just need to get it done.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

glad i didn't pay for this shit

[dbreiden83080]

glad i didn't pay for this shit

Edgar Penn was good and shocking

BJ fought lousy..

[Blackjack]

Did BJ look out of shape or like he didn't take Frankie seriously?

I like Edgar but BJ's got no business losing to him if he's right . . .

[dbreiden83080]

While UFC president Dana White, the entire Concert Arena audience, as well as everyone at home that shelled-out $44.95 were outraged over Anderson Silva’s disappointing performance at “UFC 112: Invincible” on Saturday, the middleweight champ claims to have no regrets.

“I don’t feel like I owe anyone an apology right now. Sometimes fights turn out good, sometimes they turn out bad,” Silva said at the UFC 112 post-fight press conference.

Although Silva did not want to atone for his second consecutive uneventful unanimous decision title defense, White did.

Over and over again.

“For something like this to happen, I honestly… I apologize and I’m embarrassed,” White told the media.

White was so disgusted with Silva’s play that he was seen slamming the middleweight belt to the ground as he stormed off to the locker room during the 4thRound.

UFC color commentator Joe Rogan noted that a visibly upset White said something to Ed Soares, Silva’s manager, right before fleeing the scene.

“Unfortunately, not every fight turns out the way everyone would like,” Silva matter-of-factly stated. “My goal in the fight was to finish the fight if I had the opportunity to. I came here to punish him.”

Silva spent the better part of the opening stanza clowning around like Roy Jones Jr. used to in his heyday. “The Spider” followed that up by taunting Maia for not engaging with him, although it appeared as though he made every effort to.

In the championship rounds, MMA’s deadliest marksman completely shut down and circled the Octagon, only throwing a few strikes the rest of the way. Apparently, the hard day’s work was good enough for him.

“The way I feel is my mission was completed. I came in and dominated the fight,” Silva said.

While Silva may have been pleased with his latest conquest, White remained heated throughout the presser. When asked of a potential mega-fight between Silva and welterweight king Georges St-Pierre, White ran from that quicker than he did during the night’s main event.


“I don’t want to see GSP vs. Silva after tonight. Silva might be the first champion fighting on a prelim,” White said of his Silva’s future. “I don’t want to see that [expletive].”

White certainly won’t demote one of his most popular employees, but his anger towards Silva is clearly warranted. Especially after the crowd turned on the title holder midway through the 3rdRound.

“I wanted to come in to make a point,” Silva said in closing.

A point was definitely made, it just wasn’t well received.

http://www.5thround.com/31430/anderson-silva-makes-no-apologies-for-lackluster-performance-at-ufc-112/

[BlackSwordsMan]

fuck him

[The TroutBum]

fuck him

[CubanSucks]

Can anyone explain the Penn Edgar fight a little. Where I'm at the internet connection is shit so can I get a 10 peso version of how Edgar won real quick

[The TroutBum]

Can anyone PM me a link to watch these? I've tried Google and such, but can't find shit. Isn't there some Russian site that I can watch all of these?

[dbreiden83080]

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[Stringer_Bell]

Can anyone explain the Penn Edgar fight a little. Where I'm at the internet connection is shit so can I get a 10 peso version of how Edgar won real quick

Hmm, I'll give it a try :p:

BJ came out calm and collected as ever, Edgar was bouncing around like a bunny. Edgar would move in and out, keeping his head bobbing unpredictably and eventually that led BJ to chase him which limited his ability to do what he does best...counter. Edgar got TWO takedowns during the fight, and one of them was VERY clean and was a shock to me. Before the 4th round started, I think the BJ's corner told him to take Edgar to the ground. BJ ignored them and kept it standing even though he looked gassed a bit in between rounds. In truth, he probably was gassed which is why he didn't want to work hard for a take down when Edgar was still bouncing like a bunny in the 4th round.

Basically, BJ looked worse as the fight went on and Edgar looked better. I still feel like something was wrong with BJ pre-fight because with all the Dynamic Integration training and experience he has...he just didn't look "right." Still, credit to Edgar for doing what most of us thought was impossible.

I'm not interested in Silva any more unless he fights Jon Jones. I don't want to see GSP embarassed, not saying it would happen but I don't even like the thought of it. GSP would basically be the greatest of all time if he could nuetalize Silva. After Silva it'd have to be GSP vs Lesnar :lol

[dallaskd]

I saw Edgar winning but i thought the score cards were rediculous. Penn won the first two 10-9. Hughes looked good. Wouldnt mind seeing him fight Anthony Johnson. Silva is the best P4P in the world regardless of the talk. I liked his display. He could have ended it in the second or third. Kinda confused why he didnt move in. He will run over GSP. Cant see St. Pierre mounting any type of offense outside of beating him up on the ground which will be really hard to do. The size advantage huge. Silva ran through much bigger, stonger athletes like Nate, Rich, Hendo. GSP does not bring not anymore of a threat then they did. He is more skilled but in terms of size and the ability to hurt Anderson, if they could do it.. gsp isnt do shit to silva.. didnt watch any of the other fights.. let me know how they were..

[dbreiden83080]

I don't even think that Silva and GSP is happening. Seemed like if he fought well it was going to happen but now not so much. All i will say is if it were to happen at 170 that is a different ball-game. Silva is 35, has been fighting at much higher weight for years. That is one tough weight cut.. 185 is Silva all day, 170 maybe GSP can pull it off.

Either way Silva made a fool of himself with his antics. Dana is so pissed at him if he was not champ he'd be getting cut..

[dbreiden83080]

I liked his display..

You enjoyed watching Silva spend about 15 min yelling at Maia instead of fighting??

Maia went after him in round 5 and swung hard (out of his comfort zone) because Silva was acting like such an ass-hole.. Maia told off Ed Soares in between rounds.. Dana threw the belt at Ed Soares and said "You put it on him i am outta here" The crowd was chanting GSP at one point and Mai all of round 5...

That is how disgraceful Silva's "Display" was..

[The TroutBum]

I'd strip his belt. What a butt fuck.

In other news, nobody has PM'd me a link to watch this shit. Is it because I'm a dick, or because nobody has a link?

[dbreiden83080]

I'd strip his belt. What a butt fuck.

In other news, nobody has PM'd me a link to watch this shit. Is it because I'm a dick, or because nobody has a link?

I got ya..

[The TroutBum]

I got ya..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2444022098_9e5afee71a.jpg

[dallaskd]

mma-core.com

[dbreiden83080]

mma-core.com

Spyware infected

Stay away

[Blackjack]

I'm not interested in Silva any more unless he fights Jon Jones. I don't want to see GSP embarassed, not saying it would happen but I don't even like the thought of it. GSP would basically be the greatest of all time if he could nuetalize Silva. After Silva it'd have to be GSP vs Lesnar :lol

Silva - Jones; I'd dig that.

The point I was making about Silva fighting GSP, was about the approach. If Spider's fighting someone of GSP's caliber, you're going to see his best. Do I think GSP would really have a shot at anywhere but 170? No, not really. But there's not too many people out there that I believe do that have a name for the marquee.

Essentially, it seems Silva's reign is going to end at the hands of a Buster Douglas or when he has a significant deterioration in his skills; perhaps whatever comes first. He'll either overlook a fighter and/or not give him the proper respect, or he'll reach back one day to do what he's done so many times before and come up empty (passed his prime and vulnerable).

I don't know what is says about me that I tend to root for the mercurial talents (whether it be a Toney, Penn or Silva) but I just appreciate the truly gifted athletes; people that have something that even the greatest work-ethic can't bring. Because when you finally see one of those people apply themselves the right way and put the time in for their craft, that's greatness; and it's what I'm always hoping to see.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Silva is such a bitch. Fuck his sorry ass. :td

Silva doesn't deserve to fight GSP. GSP deserves better. Silva would probably just run around in the ring like a little girl for every round.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I understand the frustration having just sold a stake in the business and opening up a new market, but you can't cut the nose to spite the face.

Silva needs to be pushed. Period. And like the antics or not, he's the best there is IMO. So if you want to get the most out of him and put on the best show for all involved, you make that GSP fight; someone's got to put him in his place or provide the challenge that makes Silva display the type of talent he has.

As a Silva fan, I'm not real thrilled with what I've heard (haven't been able to see it yet) but I'm not all that surprised either; we've seen the general apathy and antics before. But I'm a fan because of his talent and ability and want to see it on display.

And if White and the UFC knows what's good for them ... they'll do the right thing: Silva vs. GSP

Fuck that. Put him in the ring with Carwin or Brock and let them pound his ass and show him some humility.

[polandprzem]

Fuck that. Put him in the ring with Carwin or Brock and let them pound his ass and show him some humility.

That's what I said



Where is oligarchy? :lol

[polandprzem]

haha at the end of R3 Anderson was trying to hide behing miragliotta. Miragliotta to that point was frustrated as well, he pushed Silva away. Hilarious - I just rewatched it.


core - I had no problems

[polandprzem]

How disrespectful is to swear on guy during the fight?

Check out ufc.com

I think jurnalists had great questions, and Demian Maia eye looks ... wow it does not even looks

[polandprzem]

Hey, how fair is to punish grapplers and stand up the fight and even shout "more action guys" and not even say a word to a guy who is avoiding the fight and being on the outside?


machida vs Silva fight wouyld probably end with 3-2 in punchaes landed

[dbreiden83080]

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UFC 112: What We Learned


UFC 112 was supposed to be a game-changing show for the UFC. Setting up shop in the consumerist utopia known as Abu Dhabi was supposed to be a moneymaking match made in heaven for the UFC. Putting together a card headlined by two of the sport’s premier pound-for-pound luminaries was supposed to be the ultimate insurance policy against disaster.

It turns out the phrase “supposed to be” carries about as much weight as “I’ll pay you back tomorrow, I promise!” By the time this piece reaches your monitor, we’ll be barely a day removed from the disaster that was UFC 112, and the populist outrage currently defining this event is bound to have hit critical mass several times over by then.

Between the enigma known as Anderson Silva making a mockery of his chosen profession and B.J. Penn falling victim to one of the worst examples in fistic history of big fight judging, the ultimate insurance policy turned out to be about as useful as a sixth toe. Throw in local favorite Renzo Gracie sleepwalking through his fight with elder statesman Matt Hughes and all three of the bouts driving the UFC’s push into uncharted territory turned out to be nothing short of an embarrassment.

The good news is that the UFC has done a good job of learning from failure in the past -- even while denying the failure’s existence -- and the company just witnessed a master’s course in uncut, unadulterated failure. Here is the cheat sheet for what every MMA fan better hope the UFC learns from a night that will live in infamy for them and anyone unfortunate enough to have plunked down 50 beans for this entertainment vortex.

Only the PGA Needs a Seniors Tour

Matt Hughes once dominated
the UFC's 170-pound division.Truly great fighters who have put in their fair share of pain and passion deserve a chance to say goodbye in a manner befitting their greatness. That sounds like a quaint notion, but the fact is that being a professional athlete is a rough gig and you’re only owed what your wits and fists can get you. Case in point is Matt Hughes, who would get eaten alive in the current UFC welterweight division, yet his faithful service to the UFC has him cashing checks for pointless fights no one wants to see.

It’s one thing to give Hughes a going-away fight, but he still has multiple fights left on his contract and there isn’t a chance he’ll be thrown to any of the division’s new guard. Meanwhile, on the same night, quality young welterweights Rick Story and Nick Osipczak were left to battle it out on the preliminary card in a bout of far greater significance than any Hughes will soon find himself in.

That is the real crime here: exciting prospects cannibalizing each other’s hype on the preliminary card just to hold out hope of someday making a pay-per-view show.

This isn’t about whether or not Hughes deserves a few dozen victory laps; it’s about whether or not his going-away tour is worth missing out on fights that are actually worth watching. Given the commitments the UFC has to faded stars like Hughes, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz and the like, it’s hard to envision a scenario where fans won’t end up having to sit through one victory lap too many.

It’s the Judging, Stupid

The judging of the lightweight title bout between former incumbent B.J. Penn and Frankie Edgar confirmed the worst fears of every fan paying close attention to the judging trends in MMA -- that it was a matter of time before substandard judging ruined a title bout. Bad judging decisions have become a fact of life in MMA, and nearly every UFC card has at least one judge striving to put together the most nonsensical approach to scoring possible.

The fact that all three judges scored the bout for Edgar was bad enough, but two of them saw it as a lopsided bout. A supposedly lopsided bout that Penn clearly won, at absolute worst, three rounds of by any objective measure. Full credit is due to Edgar for surviving a difficult first two rounds and occasionally landing some clean punches on Penn as the bout dragged on, but he simply did not deserve to win a judges’ decision.

Penn certainly fought a foolish fight by never testing Edgar’s ground game and generally presenting a stationary target for his hyperactive foe -- mistakes that made this fight more competitive than expected and paved the way for the judges to ruin his night. However, it doesn’t change the fact that Penn landed the cleaner punches while Edgar mostly bobbed around and whiffed on combinations. Plenty of ink and kilobytes have been wasted on the need for judging reform in MMA, but until it actually happens, every fight that heads to a decision will be an embarrassment in the making for all parties involved.


Deal with Anderson Silva

What was Anderson Silva thinking?At the height of his brilliance, the preternaturally gifted pugilist Roy Jones Jr. was equal parts infuriating and spellbinding. Often content to prove his dominance by taunting and picking at frustrated opponents instead of displaying the once-in-a-generation combination of power and speed that his fans waited for with baited breath, Jones Jr. certainly didn’t make it easy for anyone to like him. UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva seems hell-bent on walking the same line.

Right next to masterful deconstructions of former champions such as Rich Franklin and Forrest Griffin are not only uninspired but downright bizarre performances against Thales Leites and Patrick Cote that don’t even begin to cover the insanity that was Silva’s bout with Demian Maia at UFC 112. Trying to understand the mentality of a fistic genius like Silva is pointless. It’s best to make peace with the fact he’ll always be unreliable at best and downright infuriating at worst.


Making him the headliner of a massively important show is simply courting disaster, especially when you match him against a fighter capable of exploiting him in the one area he has appeared vulnerable in. There isn’t much else to say except that Silva’s in-cage schizophrenia will always be a liability and should be carefully considered against his ability to deliver a ballet of violence. In other words, be very careful about making him your star employee.

Go Big? Maybe Just Go Home

Turning the UFC into a global brand is an admirable goal, but one that comes rife with difficulties, as evidenced by the UFC’s recent ban from German television. We’re still talking about a sport struggling to get sanctioned in New York, yet Dana White seems especially obsessed with planting the UFC flag in every corner of the world. Given White’s honest reaction to what happened at UFC 112, it’s obvious that reality is making a rude intrusion into his rosy plans.

While the UFC isn’t going to fall apart tomorrow and Strikeforce is still run far too ineptly to present a legitimate threat to its dominance, maybe it’s time the UFC as a whole reconsider what they’re doing. There are only so many markets in the world with the large upper middle class it takes to sustain a UFC event, and while Abu Dhabi is theoretically a good match, it didn’t take long for the UFC’s new revenue stream to turn on the product.

The sport of MMA is entrenched throughout Western Europe thanks to a long history of fight sport and an ever-expanding network of quality gyms that made the UFC’s transition into that market a slam dunk. Contrast that with Abu Dhabi, which is basically a hedonistic getaway for the super-rich, and it’s obvious that the UFC is dealing with a customer base they’re not terribly familiar with. All accounts say that UFC 112 was a financial success, but the more important question is whether that success can be replicated on a consistent basis. Something tells me the army of frustrated lay fans who packed the Ferrari World Concert Arena isn’t counting down the days to the UFC’s return.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/UFC-112-What-We-Learned-23783

I only really take issue with the Penn decision take. I saw it just once, have to see it again but there were at least 3 close rounds there and Penn easily got beat in round 5. Whining about a decision like that is a bit much. Like i said earlier 50-45 no way, but 48-47 is not crazy for Frankie..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The judging of the lightweight title bout between former incumbent B.J. Penn and Frankie Edgar confirmed the worst fears of every fan paying close attention to the judging trends in MMA -- that it was a matter of time before substandard judging ruined a title bout. Bad judging decisions have become a fact of life in MMA, and nearly every UFC card has at least one judge striving to put together the most nonsensical approach to scoring possible.

The fact that all three judges scored the bout for Edgar was bad enough, but two of them saw it as a lopsided bout. A supposedly lopsided bout that Penn clearly won, at absolute worst, three rounds of by any objective measure. Full credit is due to Edgar for surviving a difficult first two rounds and occasionally landing some clean punches on Penn as the bout dragged on, but he simply did not deserve to win a judges’ decision.

That sounds like the author is a Penn homer.

Edgar clearly won the last three rounds. The first two were such tossups you can't really blame the refs for giving one or both to Edgar. The only round I thought Penn even had much of an argument about was the first.

At the end of the fight Edgar had a scratch or two. BJ's face was beat in. There was plenty to whine about last night, largely because of the Silva fight. Trying to call the scoring in Penn-Edgar substandard just sounds like someone with a crush on BJ got butthurt.

[dbreiden83080]

I just rewatched Penn/Edgar

Penn easily gets first 2 rounds with better counter-punching. But Frankie picked it up big time mid-way through round 3 and outworked him for the most part. Got a takedown and just threw more punches. His movement and chasing Frankie down frustrated BJ by round 5. End of Round 4 BJ again was gassed. Yet another big fight where BJ gassed. We've heard it for years and he seemed to have it fixed but no he didn't. That gas tank was on empty with about 2 min to go in round 5. Could have went 48-47 either way but whining about it like Penn got robbed.


That's just moronic Sherdog...

[The TroutBum]

FINALLY got to watch the fight -- thanks dbreiden -- and I have a few thoughts:

Props to Maia. I would have walked out of that fight. I wouldn't stand for that kind of disrespect. Way to at least get a few shots in during the final round. There was a glimmer of hope for all of us after you hit him a few times. You're still awesome, and now are one of my favorite fighters.

Props to Dan Mirgliatta for the warnings, although they were a little bit too late. Did you all notice that after he raised Silva's hand he dropped it and turned his back on him? I never see that, ever. I think Dan was just as disgusted as the rest of the world.

Silva: Fuck You. You're a disgrace. I hope you die in a plane crash or something, you rat fink bastard.

[dbreiden83080]

Yo Trout that Avvy is hilarious.

I saw No Holds Barred on youtube the other day..




http://www.dearwinona.com/no_holds_barred.jpg

[Behrooz24]

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[dbreiden83080]

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Silva is the only guy on earth that knows why he does this. And with these guys that play like they No speaka da english, we never really get to know them..

[Stringer_Bell]

Yo Trout that Avvy is hilarious.

I saw No Holds Barred on youtube the other day..




http://www.dearwinona.com/no_holds_barred.jpg

Silva vs Zues! Dookie!!!!!!!

[CubanSucks]

Just watched the Silva fight and I took 2 things from it. First, I'm now a Maia fan. The dude who's known for grappling was swinging for the fences towards the end and that was awesome to watch. Second, it's amazing how much Dana White is sticking up for the fans during all this. Of course the president of a league or corporation is gonna say something after an embarrasment like this, but I really feel like he cares about the fans and giving them their moneys worth.

[The TroutBum]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2v1t05e.gif

Boom! That's what I'm talkin' about -- even the ref thinks you're a butt fuck, butt fuck.

Congrats, Anderson, you've taken over Brock's spot as biggest ass hair on the planet.

[polandprzem]

You can see Miragliotta face through rounds 4 and 5.
he was totally pissed when he made that warning

[CubanSucks]

Congrats, Anderson, you've taken over Brock's spot as biggest ass hair on the planet.

As much as I hate to defend Brock (and I really do. shit, my user title was 'Brock Lesnar Likes Boys' for the longest time) at least he FIGHTS his opponent. He FINISHES, not dance around scared to engage

[dallaskd]

lol silva was never scared to ingage. he stuck his head out there so many times. scared is not the right word at all. Maia got embaressed.

[The TroutBum]

lol silva was never scared to ingage. he stuck his head out there so many times. scared is not the right word at all. Maia got embaressed.

Right...

[CubanSucks]

Maia got embaressed.

...ok...that's completely irrelevant...when did I talk about Maia? Let's stay on topic cause right now you're trying too hard to be that rebellious kid rooting for the guy no one likes


lol silva was never scared to ingage. he stuck his head out there so many times. scared is not the right word at all.

Sticking your head "out there" isn't the same as engaging your opponent

[benefactor]

So glad I didn't pay for this garbage. Silva had about 20 different opportunities to knock Maia out but decided to dance around and taunt him like some sort of low budget Muhammad Ali. He's just too damn good for that.

The only silver lining in this event is that Edgar came out and fought a great fight to beat BJ Penn...something very few were expecting. He did an outstanding job of moving from side to side while mixing up his strikes to keep Penn off balance. By the 5th round Penn was looking like he'd be through 4 rounds while Edgar looked like he was just starting the fight. I'm sure Penn will be itching for a rematch...and will have a much better game plan.

[dbreiden83080]

As much as I hate to defend Brock (and I really do. shit, my user title was 'Brock Lesnar Likes Boys' for the longest time) at least he FIGHTS his opponent. He FINISHES, not dance around scared to engage

Brock's antics post UFC 100 were over the top for sure. HE was doing his best to soldify his heel status in the UFC but like you said at least he got the job done first. If Silva wants to dance around the ring and shit talk people when it is over go right ahead. But do your job first. If i have to see this fake jerk bow to people like he respects them and then dance around yelling at them during the fight like a tool one more time i am going to chuck my remote at the screen.

Silva actually bowed to Maia at the end of the fight. I mean what is that after what he pulled? Fake and stupid, is what it is..

[Stringer_Bell]

Silva actually bowed to Maia at the end of the fight. I mean what is that after what he pulled? Fake and stupid, is what it is..

I liked how Silva bowed to him in the ring, then went into the press conference and said Maia disrespected him as a fighter with his pre-fight comments. I'm pretty sure all Maia said was is that Silva is the best fighter in the world, but if he gave him an arm or leg he'd do his best to break it. That's not disrespect, that's a submission guy telling you he's gonna try to submit you.

Also, Silva broke the record for consecutive title defenses and consecutive wins...but no one is talking about that. They also released the score card for the unanimous decision (50-45, 50-45, 49-46)...Maia deserved at least the one round where he got pissed.

[CubanSucks]

If i have to see this fake jerk bow to people like he respects them and then dance around yelling at them during the fight like a tool one more time i am going to chuck my remote at the screen.

That was by far the worst part of the entire thing. The over the top insane amount of bows at the beginning made me wanna vomit and then the bows at the end...:rolleyes who the fuck do you think you're kidding

[BlackSwordsMan]

im still holding out this was all a dream and I'll wake up from it soon

[dallaskd]

Right...

LOL. gtfo if you think silva was ever scared once in that fight..

[CubanSucks]

I wouldn't say he was scared, scared is a strong word. But the fact that he let the clock win this fight for him rather than ending it with his fists was a chicken shit move. How the fuck can you possibly defend this

[dallaskd]

I wasnt happy with silva's fight. I though it was entertaining though. I just love how everyone is taking it as a personal attack that he did this. I bet only one or two of you fuckers actually paid for this.. and i am one of them. Throw someone in that will motivate him and youll see the old spider. No offense to Maia, he had no chance to win much like most of his opponents..

[polandprzem]

I wasnt happy with silva's fight. I though it was entertaining though. I just love how everyone is taking it as a personal attack that he did this. I bet only one or two of you fuckers actually paid for this.. and i am one of them. Throw someone in that will motivate him and youll see the old spider. No offense to Maia, he had no chance to win much like most of his opponents..

You mean from the Leites fight? Or cote fight?

:lol


I could be there running as well. My goodness a fighter my ass.

[dbreiden83080]

I just don't get how his fans have this atitude of, "Give him a challenge and he'll actually fight" When does being a professional come into play here? Silva is on his way to being pd for pd best in the world and out of the UFC if this keeps up..

[The TroutBum]

You know what I just realized? Dallaskd is right. Me, you, Danna White, and 99% of the world are completely wrong.

Silva is the bomb.com -- we're all just fucking idiots.

[MannyIsGod]

I just don't get how his fans have this atitude of, "Give him a challenge and he'll actually fight" When does being a professional come into play here? Silva is on his way to being pd for pd best in the world and out of the UFC if this keeps up..

There are just people out there who don't understand or care about professionalism. Very few things in this world will offend EVERYONE so trying to convince the 1 percent of people who don't have a problem with what he did that they should have a problem with what he did is an exercise in futility.

[dallaskd]

You know what I just realized? Dallaskd is right. Me, you, Danna White, and 99% of the world are completely wrong.

Silva is the bomb.com -- we're all just fucking idiots.


Silva is 11-0 in the UFC. and the best p4p in the sport. you may not like his attitude or style but dear god.. this man was the black jesus after the hendo and rich II fight.. nothing has changed that.

[polandprzem]

Fedor hasn't lost a fight

don't tell me that Silva fights the best in the world :)

[dbreiden83080]

Silva is 11-0 in the UFC. and the best p4p in the sport. you may not like his attitude or style but dear god.. this man was the black jesus after the hendo and rich II fight.. nothing has changed that.

His attitude and lack of proper conduct has changed that. And yes his performances.. He is not winning fights at MW like he used too. Don't even attempt to compare what he did to Rich, to the junk we saw in the Cote, Thales and Maia fights..

[ATRAIN]

LOL why does everyone always argue with Dallas?

[BlackSwordsMan]

anyone post about silva vs sonnen on july 3rd yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=834KZjEQZWo&feature=player_embedded

[CubanSucks]

Damn, you beat me to it. Don't know anything about Sonnen yet except his upset over Marquart

[dallaskd]

Damn, you beat me to it. Don't know anything about Sonnen yet except his upset over Marquart

one of the biggest dbags in mma. watch his first fight with filho.

[dbreiden83080]

anyone post about silva vs sonnen on july 3rd yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=834KZjEQZWo&feature=player_embedded

Dana saying he would cut Silva if he pulled that again is grand-standing IMO. He won't cut Silva loose, he'll just pair him with guys that will make him fight for the rest of his career. Sonnen will make him fight. He'll push it with his wrestling. Has the goods to get it down plenty. Silva is gonna win but it should be pretty good.. After that send him back up to 205 and fight guys like Page and Shad. Or if he wants the catchweight bout with GSP

Lets do it..

[IX_Equilibrium]

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