What Happen to Roger Mason Jr.

[BanditHiro]

he still has not got it and it is the end of the season.

Bonner has really picked it up recently
Bogans has a good game every once in awhile like he did against the Lakers

did last years playoffs really fucked him up that much?

[pjjrfan]

I'd like to see Hairston take some of Mason's minutes. He did some good things on Defense today, and I think once he gets adjusted to consistent playing time his shooting will come around. I've alway liked Mason's shooting, but he's been in a slump and lately he is not even looking for his shot.

[BackHome]

Mason is wearing a hand brace so I am sure that has changed his shot a little. But from all this year he has pretty much sucked and just doesn't offer anything we need. His defense is terrible and if he ain't hitting the outside shot he should not be playing.

Also Harriston has not shown me anything other then being a 13th man on our team.

[Frenzy]

who knows... dude cant hit the broad side of a barn as of late. Belongs on the bench.

[Ice009]

Mason is wearing a hand brace so I am sure that has changed his shot a little. But from all this year he has pretty much sucked and just doesn't offer anything we need. His defense is terrible and if he ain't hitting the outside shot he should not be playing.

Also Harriston has not shown me anything other then being a 13th man on our team.

OK that is now 3 people in the last few days that said Hairston has not shown them much.

LOL you know what is common for all those 3 people? They called him Harriston. You don't even know his name which shows a lack of respect and I don't think you've watched him play much at all since he has been here last season to say that he is a 13th man. He can play and he can play Defense too. He just needs some time on an NBA court to get his game going.

[BackHome]

The same people saying hairston is great are some of the same people saying Ian is the next David Robinson. I hope I am wrong about Hairston and that you are right about him being better then the 13th man.

[HarlemHeat37]

Nobody has said Hairston is great, I've never heard anybody say that..he produces pretty much every time he's on the floor though..a lot of the time it's something good followed by something bad, which is to be expected of a young player that hasn't played at all, but it's better than Mason giving bad after bad..

I don't really know what you would expect from a guy that plays once every handful of games and has little chemistry with the team..he's obviously still green at this point..the organization likes him though and they all speak highly of him for a reason..he clearly has solid potential to be a good role player IMO..

As for Mason, I get scared any time he's on the floor..I don't care about missing shots, he's just a huge liability on the other end of the floor..defenses always take advantage of him, he doesn't hustle or bring energy, and he has no basketball instincts..other teams always look to attack him, which is also what I would do if I was a coach..

[Ice009]

The same people saying hairston is great are some of the same people saying Ian is the next David Robinson. I hope I am wrong about Hairston and that you are right about him being better then the 13th man.

I think he can be a good player. No way am I saying he is an All-Star or anything like that.

[TIMMYD!]

If there was an award for least improved player Mason would probably win.

[EricB]

I thought he had been shooting better lately, especially against Orlando.

[Spurs Brazil]

Nothing happened. He's just a bad player

[DesignatedT]

Mason sucks bad. Worst player on the team.

[BillMc]

It is still funny that he wanted to go to a team that would give him more playing time.

It's like young Finley....

[Pauleta14]

Well last year he was a stud during the whole regular season and sucked during the PO...

Maybe it'll be the opposite this year!!!
let's dream...

[exstatic]

Confidence is SO important to shooters, and he just has none.

[EricB]

Mason sucks bad. Worst player on the team.

Worse than Curtis Jerrels or Garret Temple?

No.

[BackHome]

Nobody has said Hairston is great, I've never heard anybody say that..he produces pretty much every time he's on the floor though..a lot of the time it's something good followed by something bad, which is to be expected of a young player that hasn't played at all, but it's better than Mason giving bad after bad..

I don't really know what you would expect from a guy that plays once every handful of games and has little chemistry with the team..he's obviously still green at this point..the organization likes him though and they all speak highly of him for a reason..he clearly has solid potential to be a good role player IMO..

As for Mason, I get scared any time he's on the floor..I don't care about missing shots, he's just a huge liability on the other end of the floor..defenses always take advantage of him, he doesn't hustle or bring energy, and he has no basketball instincts..other teams always look to attack him, which is also what I would do if I was a coach..

Gotta agree with you on your last point!

[EricB]

Confidence is SO important to shooters, and he just has none.

I thought after the last couple games it had been coming back.

It would be awesome if he could get some the last couple games and go into the playoffs on fire.

[ohmwrecker]

Confidence is SO important to shooters, and he just has none.
Pop drained all of his confidence and injected it into George Hill.

[DesignatedT]

Worse than Curtis Jerrels or Garret Temple?

No.

it would be closer than you think. If those guys knew the system as much as mason does then they just might be better options at this point.

[bigfan]

With Hill out for a few games this puts the spotlight on Mason. Maybe it will get him out of his funk or whatever the hell that has been bothering him this year. Sometimes a little pressure works wonders.

[blkroadrunners]

Give him some slack - his shooting hand has been fucked up for a few months now.

[Obstructed_View]

It's almost never too late for a shooter to get his confidence back. I'd much rather he stink it up all season and get going in the playoffs than the reverse, which happened last year. He's still hustling and working hard. This slump he's in has gone way past brutal and borders on legendary, though. I hope he can salvage his Spurs career and recover while he can actually help the team.

[ulosturedge]

He's the 2010 Jaren Jackson. But atleast Jaren showed up in the playoffs before fading into complete obscurity.

[Obstructed_View]

He's the 2010 Jaren Jackson. But atleast Jaren showed up in the playoffs before fading into complete obscurity.

Jaren faded into obscurity after he signed his big free agent contract.

[ElNono]

The upside is that he can't be playing any worse. I've set my expectation so low with him at this point that whenever he hits a shot he makes me laugh.

Can't get rid of that deadweight quick enough.

[SCdac]

I have nothing crazy personal against him, he was big for us last season (and I have no reason to think he won't be good for another team), but he's really turned into a unreliable black hole out there. 2-5, 3-9, 1-4, those are the kinds of lines I expect out of him nowadays. The combination of low minutes per game, dropping in the totem pole, and probably some eagerness to play for his next contract, all contributes to the fact that Mason shoots very many times when the ball is in his hands more than once in a single possession. You can almost tell when a shot is coming, can see it in Mason's eyes so to speak. I agree it's never to late to get out of a shooting slump, but by this point if I'm Mason I'd be using those driving/slashing skills I practiced so much in the off season more often. I'd be doing my best George Hill/Manu Ginobili impressions and trying to gain more minutes, gettin to the line showing the team how efficient and clutch of a FT shooter I am. That kind of mentality has been working well for... Matt Bonner. And I'm not even a fan of his. Matt from the first half of the season was a gunner, didn't have the confidence in his in between game after missing that buzzer beating hook, BUT it hasn't stopped him from now taking the ball off the dribble every game and not being defined as just "a three point shooter". That's what we need from Roger. Not 5 pick-and-pops, and bricks, and that's it.

[MaNu4Tres]

Jaren faded into obscurity after he signed his big free agent contract.

Him not doing a damn thing after his 3 year deal worth 9 million reward for the 99' run was the reason why Spurs were skeptical at giving Stephen Jackson the 4-5 year deal worth 20-22 million after the 03' title unfortunately.

[jjktkk]

Him not doing a damn thing after his 3 year deal worth 9 million reward for the 99' run was the reason why Spurs were skeptical at giving Stephen Jackson the 4-5 year deal worth 20-22 million after the 03' title unfortunately.

Not quite. The Spurs also knew they had Manu waiting in the wings and that Manu was gonna need to be resigned.

[MaNu4Tres]

Not quite. The Spurs also knew they had Manu waiting in the wings and that Manu was gonna need to be resigned.

Not quite. That off-season they signed Rasho to a 48 million dollar contract and picked up Ron Mercer's last year worth 7 million.

Not to mention giving Brent Barry exactly what Stephen Jackson wanted the following year.

Them not signing Jackson had nothing to do with resigning Manu.

[MaNu4Tres]

If that is true then the front office is really stupid

since that isn't the case because they seem to constantly get good players... so much so that a throw away...Theo can be a difference maker on another teams home stretch ...

the establish reason as why they didn't sign Jackson has to do with a guy name Jason Kidd....

Jackson was spiting major minutes all year with Manu and eve more so in the play offs...



but good story bro...


Jason Kidd was the first domino to fall that off-season. The Jackson negotiations didn't began until Kidd made his decision as with the rest of the negotiations.

[Ditty]

hairston>mason

pop needs to relize that if mason aint hitting nothing hes no use hes slow and lazy on rotations but not a bad one on one defender but besides that hes no use besides making shots

[Obstructed_View]

He had two years with 100 plus trey made and he made 50 in the shortened season.

So, no Mason shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as this lump

Jaren was a big part of a title run, so that seems perfectly fair to me. I'm disappointed that JJ didn't continue to play to his potential, but I'm still grateful that he stepped up for a while, because it was so huge for the Spurs.

[Obstructed_View]

Him not doing a damn thing after his 3 year deal worth 9 million reward for the 99' run was the reason why Spurs were skeptical at giving Stephen Jackson the 4-5 year deal worth 20-22 million after the 03' title unfortunately.

I agree.

[dbestpro]

Mason's problems began the day he started trying to be something he is not, that being a point guard. His game collapsed last year as he tried to man the point. When left as a catch and shoot shooting guard he was an integral part of the team. Trying to make up for last year he focused his off season on driving to the basket. This again affected his catch and shoot game. If RMJ is left to be a catch and shoot three point specialist who occasionally has the ball in his hands then he can be very valuable (aka the microwave). Ask him to do more and his entire game suffers. When his game suffers the Spurs suffer.

[TJastal]

Mason's problems began the day he started trying to be something he is not, that being a point guard. His game collapsed last year as he tried to man the point. When left as a catch and shoot shooting guard he was an integral part of the team. Trying to make up for last year he focused his off season on driving to the basket. This again affected his catch and shoot game. If RMJ is left to be a catch and shoot three point specialist who occasionally has the ball in his hands then he can be very valuable (aka the microwave). Ask him to do more and his entire game suffers. When his game suffers the Spurs suffer.

Well its not like the spurs have a choice right now, last year it was because Pop refused to play George Hill, this year its because everybody and their brothers, nieces and nephews is injured.

[5in10]

Well maybe with the injury to George hill is a blessing in disguise. Maybe we can finally get mason rolling with the extra playing time. If he finally gets rolling with the rest of the team, its going to make the team even harder to play defense against with the spacing issues gh3,manu,Bonner, and mason provide.

[BillMc]

NO a young Finley was an all star

Of course, you're right. Young Fin was great.

What I meant was Mason was like a younger version of our OLD Finley who wanted more playing time even though he couldn't hit a shot.

[mingus]

he was better last year when he looked a little thicker. he def. lost some weight coming into the season and maybe that's affected his shot. it's either that or confidence. but can you have no confidence for a whole year? i don't believe that. i think the weight loss hurt him. either way he just sucks. it's crazy how he looked like he could be a key player off the bench (or maybe even starting, w/ Ginobili off the bench) last year, and now he looks like he doesn't even belong in the NBA. i mean he did absolutely nothing other than bring the ball up against LA. any d-league guard could do that.

[phxspurfan]

I think he has poor form. Chip was brought in to help the jump shooters. His shoulder-fire, on-the-run jumper should be the next project, along with Hill.

No matter how hot you get -- for the most part -- if you have poor form the odds will catch up with you and you will go a ridiculous cold streak.

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[Spurs7794]

I don't think he needs to get with Chip. He needs a new team where his confidence will come back. In 08-09, he came here with no expectations and proceeded to play GREAT where every off balance shot and buzzer beater felt like it was going to go in. Then Pop played him at pg (because George Hill clearly wasn't ready for the playoffs :rolleyes) and Mason started to struggle and ended up playing bad in the playoffs.
Then this year happens and he watches Finley start the first couple of games for no reason, and then get replaced with Bogans as the starter and he's gotta be thinking "WTF". Annnnd his confidence plummeted. Then he asks for a trade, Finley leaves the team, Parker gets injured and suddenly, minutes are just dropping onto him annnnnd he promptly shoots 1/10 against Cleveland. And thus, the complete removal of Roger Mason Jr.'s confidence.

[TJastal]

I think he has poor form. Chip was brought in to help the jump shooters. His shoulder-fire, on-the-run jumper should be the next project, along with Hill.

No matter how hot you get -- for the most part -- if you have poor form the odds will catch up with you and you will go a ridiculous cold streak.

[X6-3fmFkvT8

Have you ever watched Matt Bonner shoot a basketball? That's got to easily take the cake of worst form on the team.

[JR3]

I hope Roger Missin Jr. Turns it around soon. We can use a few corner 3s since Hill will be out the next couple of games.

[TJastal]

I don't think he needs to get with Chip. He needs a new team where his confidence will come back. In 08-09, he came here with no expectations and proceeded to play GREAT where every off balance shot and buzzer beater felt like it was going to go in. Then Pop played him at pg (because George Hill clearly wasn't ready for the playoffs :rolleyes) and Mason started to struggle and ended up playing bad in the playoffs.
Then this year happens and he watches Finley start the first couple of games for no reason, and then get replaced with Bogans as the starter and he's gotta be thinking "WTF". Annnnd his confidence plummeted. Then he asks for a trade, Finley leaves the team, Parker gets injured and suddenly, minutes are just dropping onto him annnnnd he promptly shoots 1/10 against Cleveland. And thus, the complete removal of Roger Mason Jr.'s confidence.

Yup, its a lack of confidence and insecurity about his role and minutes I think that is causing him to rush shots and misfire. He went from 45% last year to under 40% this year.

He's got till the end of the season to prove he still has some confidence going forth into the playoffs (and his ball handling is sorely needed)

[Obstructed_View]

What Mason needs most to snap out of his shooting slump is to take one step closer to the basket. He was expected to be a good 20 foot shooter when he joined the team, and his three point shooting last year was a pleasant surprise. He should go back to what he knows and then try to increase his range once he gets his touch back.