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Nbadan
05-05-2005, 02:04 AM
MAY 5 -- Months after members of "Al Pieda" marred a campus speech by Ann Coulter, another appearance by the controversial conservative commentator has been disrupted by a protester. During a speech last night at the University of Texas in Austin, a 19-year old UT student was busted after asking Coulter a lewd question, which he followed up with equally inappropriate hand gestures, according to the below police affidavit (see cite). The student, Ajai Raj, was arrested by campus police and hit with a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge. The police affidavit notes that Coulter's lecture was attended by "several children under the age of ten," which probably made them particularly sensitive when Raj queried Coulter about the sexual proclivities of certain right-leaning men.

The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0504051_ann_coulter_1.html)

Coulters a nut, just listen to some of her comments...


• On free speech: “This free speech thing is a canard… How about not letting traitors teach at universities? Yes, I realize I’ve just proposed firing the entire Harvard faculty. These institutions can be shaken – look at Dan Rather. He’s out. Or, as I look at it, one down, two to go. We’re going to need a much bigger trophy case for all these stuffed heads. Who says there is no God? I mean, besides liberals.”

• On liberals: “Some liberals have become even too crazy for Texas to execute, which is a damn shame. They’re always saying – we’re oppressed, we’re oppressed so let’s do it. Let’s oppress them.”

“Americans don’t want gay marriage. I think we’re pretty unified on that. Marriage civilizes men – one woman, one family. There’s nothing more important. I think America is more likely to pick a day to celebrate Hitler’s birthday than to support gay marriage – that’s polling better these days. We have a free and democratic society because of marriage – it’s wrong to pretend that marriage is just incidental to that.”

• On the Iraqi election: “Millions of Iraqis voted in a free and democratic election in January – men, women, and an estimated 2,000 confused elderly voters in Palm Beach.”

In case your interested, the young was just asking whether the prohibition against "sodomite in marriage" only applied to same sex sodomy, or does it also apply to male-female relations - i.e. are marriages that include male female sodomy legitimate marriages according to theologians such as Ms. Coulter?. A perfectly reasonable question, given the biblical premise of her objection.

He might have phrased it more delicately than he did, but speaking to a respected Theologian of Ms. Coulter's stature, perhaps this could cause one to temporarily lose command of their social graces.

dcole50
05-05-2005, 02:38 AM
“Millions of Iraqis voted in a free and democratic election in January – men, women, and an estimated 2,000 confused elderly voters in Palm Beach.”
... cue the crickets.

Nbadan
05-05-2005, 04:04 AM
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Open letter from Ajai Raj

Open Letter to Anyone Who Gives a Shit About Justice

I’m writing this in response to the spectacle that occurred in the LBJ Library on Tuesday, May 3rd, 2005, when Ann Coulter, a diabolical, ignorant, but nevertheless charismatic right-wing pundit, came to speak at UT. Ms. Coulter- yes, Ms, I’d personally think such a vocal female conservative would be making Bubba a meatloaf instead of addressing a politically-minded collegiate audience, but whatever- is the author of relentlessly mendacious anti-liberal books, such as Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right and Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism. She’s famous for having an ass that stores so many lies it makes clown-car designers envious. Like her or not (and if you do, I’m surprised you can read) she’s a Big Fucking Deal. The title of the front-page story covering Ms. Coulter’s in the Texan was “Arrest Made at Coulter Speech”. You could also have caught it on CBS or in the Austin-American Statesman. The general idea is that some jackass made a scene, and Ann Coulter was also there. I am Ajai Raj, and I am a jackass. In his article, which I enjoyed and commend him for, Mr. Sampath quoted the former president of the Student Events Center, the organization which arranged the event. He wrote: "The person had been disruptive the entire event," said Matt Hardigree, former Student Events Center president. "He took the opportunity to say something lewd and offensive and then made masturbatory gestures as he exited." And what do I have to say in rebuttal? Not a goddamn thing. Matt Hardigree got it spot-on! From the beginning I was yelling obscenities along with my friends, roaring at Ms. Coulter’s right-wing bullshit festival the way no one else had the balls to. Mr. Sampath writes in his article that (and this is my take) the protestors were told to be good all along. They were told to sit in the back and hold their signs and leave quietly. No wonder hippies get such a bad rap nowadays; protestors today might as well be ornaments on the Rightmobile. When I want someone to know I’m pissed off, I’m going to throw down and give them a good shit-ruining. I wanted to show Ms. Coulter that people are down if she wants to hold a circle-jerk, but we’re not gonna do it her way. Not me, at least. So yes, the Q&A session came around, and it was pathetic. Her slack-jawed fans got up and licked her face so she could pat them on the head- one schmuck offered to be her bodyguard, and she smiled, doubtlessly making a mental note that she wouldn’t touch his nether regions if she were King Midas; liberal protestors posed well-intentioned but woefully timid questions and got shot down in a hail of ignorant shitfire from the She-Dragon. Standing in line awaiting my turn, I watched her send a moderate Republican, who had questioned the sheer incendiary magnitude of her rhetoric, walk away in tears when she tore him apart for daring to question her. So yes, I saw my “opportunity to say something lewd and offensive.” And I took it. She had just said something about gay marriage, the typical rightwing bullshit spiel that is still convincing people that the Bible is really the Constitution. Knowing that taking the time to say something insightful, specific, or even slightly critical would get me a lame comeback and a ticket back to my seat, I realized that the only way to win this battle was to fight fire with fire. Or bullshit with bullshit. So, as reported in yesterday’s Texan, I fired: "You say that you believe in the sanctity of marriage," said Ajai Raj, an English sophomore. "How do you feel about marriages where the man does nothing but fuck his wife up the ass?" And the crowd fell silent. Ms. Coulter stood stunned atop her stage, unprepared for a jackass to say something so utterly crude and to the point. Her pompous and mean air is enough to stump questioners into timidity, I wasn’t about to let her stop me. The audience members looked at me with raw disbelief; later, even friends who know me well admitted that they’d been surprised at how vulgar I’d been. The others in line for Q&A, mostly liberals, looked at me like I’d set their cause back forty years. Did I give a shit? No. If I had a message, it’s that the whole thing was a joke- hell, our whole political scene today is a fucking joke. Everyone’s out to either pat themselves on the back for being right or whine about how they’re being wronged without ever lifting a finger to fight for it. So rather than dignify anyone else, I “made masturbatory gestures” as I exited. Again, bingo! I danced a jig and set my hand a-jerkin’ at crotch-level, sneering for the crowd and letting them know I was ready to roll. I yelled to my friends that we were gonna split and made for the door. Two cops approached me. I figured they were going to tell me I had to leave, so I said “You can’t fire me, because I quit!” “You’re under arrest.” It was my turn to be shocked. I tried to ask them what for; saying “fuck her in the ass”” at a college isn’t a crime, last time I checked. They apparently mistook my inquiries for aggression, and grabbed me roughly and slammed me into the door. Within seconds the backmost two or three rows was surging forward, following the scene as the cops dragged me out the door. They yelled and chanted; my friends were more outraged than I’d ever seen any of them before. As they pushed me into the car, I heard my good friend Jeffrey Stockwell scream, “THIS ISN’T A JUSTICE SYSTEM! YOU CALL THIS PROTECTING AND SERVING?!” The crowd took up a chant at the UTPD officers: “Shame! Shame! Shame!” Shame is fucking right. When I asked the cops why they thought I needed cuffing, they told me that they didn’t even see anything that happened, they were just doing as told. As a good friend pointed out to me, it’s a scary thought that people who are given weapons and the authority to forcibly detain people can act without knowledge of a situation. I’m writing this at 7:15 A.M. Wednesday, having recouped over a few cigarettes and some coffee after being released from jail around 3 A.M. I had a party waiting for me- twenty or so friends and supporters, who showered me with gifts such as a card, sodas, cigarettes, food, and a Blondie CD (go figure). Several civil rights-interested associations approached me, offering pro bono legal representation and showing their support. I have no regrets. Was I jackass? Yes. Oh Christ, yes. But here’s the question people ought to ask themselves. Did I deserve to be arrested? Did the cops need to rough me up for saying bad words at what was at least masquerading as an open dialogue? Do the people of Texas- hell, of America- feel that “potty mouth” belongs on the list of punishable crimes along with “aggravated assault” and “armed robbery”? As stated in the Texan article, I am charged with Disorderly Conduct, which is a Class C Misdemeanor. Other Class C Misdemeanors include DWIs, possession of drug paraphernalia, and speeding tickets. Without getting into the justification for all of those, were my naughty words and crude hand motions as imposing a danger? This isn’t about politics anymore, however it might have come about. Either you think it’s an absurd outrage or you think swearing is a crime. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are Republicans, for Christ’s sake. Raise your hand if you watch South Park. This is about drawing a line in the sand. It made me proud to see people standing up and calling bullshit when bullshit needed to be called. All politics aside, people ought to ask themselves, how far should our representatives of “justice” be allowed to go? Do the American people believe in censorship rights for the rich and famous? I know I didn’t slay the insidious evil that is Ann Coulter, but I did give her pause. She can easily go to another college or hoedown or whatever and spew her tired rhetoric without worrying about me. But I’m not the only one who feels this way. Other people will call her on her shit. And hey, Ann, don’t come back to UT. We’re better than your bullshit here. And I can think of at least one jackass here who can dish it out better than you.

travis2
05-05-2005, 06:54 AM
Cry me a fucking river.

I hope Ann comes back just to stick it to those assholes.

exstatic
05-05-2005, 07:48 AM
Cry me a fucking river.

I hope Ann comes back just to stick it to those assholes.

Compassionate Conservatism at it's best.

travis2
05-05-2005, 08:13 AM
Compassionate Conservatism at it's best.

You reap what you've sown for the past 15 years or so. You don't like being slapped around? Then quit slapping people around.

As usual, rules are for other people.

Clandestino
05-05-2005, 08:15 AM
he's a fucking dumbass. if he didn't like her, he didn't have to go. and if forced to go, keep his fucking mouth shut.

The Ressurrected One
05-05-2005, 08:34 AM
Ann Coulter was interviewed last night on Hannity & Colmes regarding her recent appearances on college campuses, including the one at the University of Texas in Austin. Fox News has now posted the transcript (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155550,00.html) of the interview.

COLMES: "[T]he president of St. Thomas College says you violated the controversial issues policy stating that members and guests are expected to treat each other with dignity. And that's what he is claiming about what happened there. I don't know what that means. But I wasn't there."

COULTER: "I don't either, but neither was he."

COLMES: "Did you not treat fellow audience members with dignity in your responses?"

COULTER: "Far more dignity than their questions deserved. No, I'm much nicer to college liberals than I am to you, for example, because I figure you're an adult, these are young kids."

COLMES: "I can take it. I can handle it."

COULTER: "Right, you can take it. So in general, I am much politer to them. I have to say St. Olaf's and St. Thomas questions were stunningly bad, so bad I can't even remember. I can remember the ones last night [at the University of Texas]."

"But I think there really is a problem on college campuses and if you want liberalism to continue in this country — I don't — but just to give you a little tip: Liberal students are being let down by their professors, by the world."

"I mean, they're buffeted along by a liberal media. They have liberal public school teachers. They go to college. They have liberal professors. They don't know how to argue. They can't put together a logical thought, whereas you could put a college Republican on TV right now and he can debate you..."

HANNITY: "Yes, they're good."

COULTER: "... and do a credible job. But liberals, they throw food, they curse."
I think she makes a valid point.

Spurminator
05-05-2005, 09:45 AM
While perhaps somewhat misdirected, from the standpoint that Ann Coulter is probably not worth getting worked up about, I must say I respect his passion. People who "protest" entertainer-pundits like Coulter or Michael Moore are just feeding the monster... Ajai Raj was responding to bullshit with bullshit. I'm surprised that his choice of words has caused such a stir on the UT campus... in fact, the overreaction probably validates his "cause" to some degree.

The Ressurrected One
05-05-2005, 09:47 AM
While perhaps somewhat misdirected, from the standpoint that Ann Coulter is probably not worth getting worked up about, I must say I respect his passion. People who "protest" entertainer-pundits like Coulter or Michael Moore are just feeding the monster... Ajai Raj was responding to bullshit with bullshit. I'm surprised that his choice of words has caused such a stir on the UT campus... in fact, the overreaction probably validates his "cause" to some degree.
Okay, care to give me an example of the "bullshit" to which he was responding with "bullshit?"

Oh, and he was arrested because he was disorderly.

Spurminator
05-05-2005, 09:55 AM
Ann Coulter's whole bit is bullshit. It's entertaining bullshit - I read her columns sometimes for kicks - but I don't get any more worked up over her rants than I do the morning Doonsbury cartoon.

And Disorderly? Give me a break. He made gestures and said some dirty words. This is a college freakin campus, not DisneyLand.

exstatic
05-05-2005, 10:00 AM
You reap what you've sown for the past 15 years or so.

The last 15 years have been a whirlwind of GOP bullshit. It started with Newt, Rush, Hannity, Ann Colder, a blowjob, and has now come around to a crooked-ass Speaker who can't stand up to scrutiny.

Clandestino
05-05-2005, 10:19 AM
Ann Coulter's whole bit is bullshit. It's entertaining bullshit - I read her columns sometimes for kicks - but I don't get any more worked up over her rants than I do the morning Doonsbury cartoon.

And Disorderly? Give me a break. He made gestures and said some dirty words. This is a college freakin campus, not DisneyLand.

the cop says his actions, "incited an immediate breach of peace within the crowd."

The Ressurrected One
05-05-2005, 10:26 AM
Ann Coulter's whole bit is bullshit. It's entertaining bullshit - I read her columns sometimes for kicks - but I don't get any more worked up over her rants than I do the morning Doonsbury cartoon.

And Disorderly? Give me a break. He made gestures and said some dirty words. This is a college freakin campus, not DisneyLand.
Ann Coulter is a political commentator that uses hyperbole...this student was attempting to incite the crowd.

Big difference.

Spurminator
05-05-2005, 11:02 AM
How was he attempting to incite the crowd? Was he calling for violence? Was he physically aggitating anyone?

How is this any different than Ann Coulter standing in front of a previous crowded auditorium of students and asking that a few "preferably large" conservatives please deal with hecklers? That's more of a direct incitement than making jack off gestures.

How is her hyperbole any safer than his? Was it the gratuitous use of the "F" word that caused him to be a threat to peace?

The Ressurrected One
05-05-2005, 11:10 AM
How was he attempting to incite the crowd? Was he calling for violence? Was he physically aggitating anyone?

How is this any different than Ann Coulter standing in front of a previous crowded auditorium of students and asking that a few "preferably large" conservatives please deal with hecklers? That's more of a direct incitement than making jack off gestures.

How is her hyperbole any safer than his? Was it the gratuitous use of the "F" word that caused him to be a threat to peace?
She was invited to speak. He was not. He could have not attended.

That's another distinction.

Spurminator
05-05-2005, 11:23 AM
He was invited to ask questions.

The Ressurrected One
05-05-2005, 11:24 AM
He was invited to ask questions.
That's debatable...

Were you there? Nor was I.

Spurminator
05-05-2005, 11:29 AM
It's not debateable. There was a question/answer session. It's in the police report.

He participated. His question should have gotten him kicked out, not arrested.

Spurminator
05-05-2005, 11:33 AM
And back to my previous questions...



How was he attempting to incite the crowd? Was he calling for violence? Was he physically aggitating anyone?

How is this any different than Ann Coulter standing in front of a previous crowded auditorium of students and asking that a few "preferably large" conservatives please deal with hecklers? That's more of a direct incitement than making jack off gestures.

How is her hyperbole any safer than his? Was it the gratuitous use of the "F" word that caused him to be a threat to peace?

SPARKY
05-05-2005, 11:35 AM
Who fucking cares? Seriously. This is what is wrong with this country. A bunch of fanatic nutjobs arguing about the issue du jour while the rest of the world rises up to kick our fat lazy misguided asses.

Honestly. I don't care about Coulter and I don't care about the kid. God damn end this stupidity already, America.

The Ressurrected One
05-05-2005, 12:33 PM
Who fucking cares? Seriously. This is what is wrong with this country. A bunch of fanatic nutjobs arguing about the issue du jour while the rest of the world rises up to kick our fat lazy misguided asses.

Honestly. I don't care about Coulter and I don't care about the kid. God damn end this stupidity already, America.
Fine by me SPARKY.

mookie2001
05-05-2005, 10:04 PM
Ann Coulter's whole bit is bullshit. It's entertaining bullshit - I read her columns sometimes for kicks - but I don't get any more worked up over her rants than I do the morning Doonsbury cartoon.

And Disorderly? Give me a break. He made gestures and said some dirty words. This is a college freakin campus, not DisneyLand.

dam right
yall just got metroplexed

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-05-2005, 11:53 PM
5'9", 130 pounds. Dude needs to STFU and drink some milk :lol

mookie2001
05-05-2005, 11:58 PM
intresting fact in jan 2003 i ,mookie, was the last person at travis county downtown jail to be booked with a black and white mugshot
they let me go before they installed the new equipment
it was a cool photo too, i looked like a felon, i usually dont

scott
05-06-2005, 12:40 AM
Pure comedy... Ann Coulter is as big a moron as Clandestino... she is just a well spoken one.

Clandestino
05-06-2005, 01:20 AM
intresting fact in jan 2003 i ,mookie, was the last person at travis county downtown jail to be booked with a black and white mugshot
they let me go before they installed the new equipment
it was a cool photo too, i looked like a felon, i usually dont

not suprised...

Clandestino
05-06-2005, 01:21 AM
Pure comedy... Ann Coulter is as big a moron as Clandestino... she is just a well spoken one.

scott, i would love to meet you in person...

SPARKY
05-06-2005, 07:37 AM
scott, i would love to meet you in person...

That doesn't sound quite right.