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stretch
04-09-2010, 11:55 PM
no, this isnt one of my usual LMAO threads, except to tschlong

LMAO tlong

anyways, back to the point, how did you honestly feel about the officiating tonight? it seemed to favor the mavs, but more so i think because the blazers and the crowd was acting so childishly over a couple bad calls, and the NBA refs in their usual bullshitting ways, decided to just piss them off even more.

did you all feel it was as one-sided as the crowd seemed to feel it was?

lil_penny
04-09-2010, 11:58 PM
I really wasn't up set I was more pissed that we gave free shots with the two late techs and the batum and terry foul.. there where some questionable calls, but the refs can't always make the right one.. I've seen worse games... portland played with too much emotion and it burned them imo.. dallas kept there composure especially dirk. This was a big game both teams knew it. However only one showed it down the stretch

u2sarajevo
04-09-2010, 11:58 PM
undoubtedly, well in the 4th for sure. When Terry ran into that defender twice, the 2nd time running straight for him and then the foul was called on him..... first time I ever felt bad for a Trailblazer. But I enjoyed the win.

monosylab1k
04-10-2010, 12:00 AM
In the final stretch, there was only one bad call - the no call on Andre Miller and the subsequent tech. The Terry/Batum thing was iffy but they both were going at it, it could have gone either way. Everything else was legit. Nate McMillan clearly dropped an F-Bomb which is going to get you a T every time. The ball bounced off Miller's head out of bounds that other time, and the traps on Roy worked perfectly and I honestly didn't see a foul.

and tbh there were some terrible no-calls that went against Dallas earlier. Even Hollinger wrote that it was a horribly officiated game for both sides.

mavsfan1000
04-10-2010, 12:00 AM
Feels good to finally get some respect from the refs. :D

mavs>spurs2
04-10-2010, 12:02 AM
yeah mono, the trap on roy he just threw it away..

stretch
04-10-2010, 12:02 AM
In the final stretch, there was only one bad call - the no call on Andre Miller and the subsequent tech. The Terry/Batum thing was iffy but they both were going at it, it could have gone either way. Everything else was legit. Nate McMillan clearly dropped an F-Bomb which is going to get you a T every time. The ball bounced off Miller's head out of bounds that other time, and the traps on Roy worked perfectly and I honestly didn't see a foul.

I agree, I didn't think it was terribly one-sided either. I think throughout the course of the game, more-so early on, there were a few ticky tack fouls that were called in Dallas favor, that seemed to really happen after the two issues that happened with Najera. But tbh the 4th seemed to be reffed pretty fairly imho.

dirk4mvp
04-10-2010, 12:03 AM
Andre Miller flopped his ass off.

MavDynasty
04-10-2010, 12:03 AM
In the final stretch, there was only one bad call - the no call on Andre Miller and the subsequent tech. The Terry/Batum thing was iffy but they both were going at it, it could have gone either way. Everything else was legit. Nate McMillan clearly dropped an F-Bomb which is going to get you a T every time. The ball bounced off Miller's head out of bounds that other time, and the traps on Roy worked perfectly and I honestly didn't see a foul.

This games officiating heavily favored the mavs like the game last week where the blazers were heavily favored.

por fans should be pissed, dirk and terry travels that weren't called, techs, miller no calls etc

still great win though. damn those fans are nuts...anyone hear that guy in the mavs tv broadcast telling carlisle to "sit the fuck down coach i cant fucking see"? Lmao

stretch
04-10-2010, 12:04 AM
well there was definitely a share of no-calls that went in portlands favor as well. such as the blatant double dribble by Roy.

monosylab1k
04-10-2010, 12:07 AM
This games officiating heavily favored the mavs like the game last week where the blazers were heavily favored.

I didn't see it that way. the refs were terrible for both teams.

Even Hollinger said as much. We all know he'd rather eat a turd sandwich than give the Mavs credit for anything, but he wrote this tonight:


Mavs win 83-77. Held Roy to 13 pts. They earned it.


Quick side note: Blazers are losing this game on merit. Refs have been horrid both ways. But this is worst officiated game I've seen this yr


wow..Roy both palmed AND double dribbled in open court w/ no call. I'm speechless.

it was bad both ways.

Findog
04-10-2010, 12:11 AM
In the final stretch, there was only one bad call - the no call on Andre Miller and the subsequent tech. The Terry/Batum thing was iffy but they both were going at it, it could have gone either way. Everything else was legit. Nate McMillan clearly dropped an F-Bomb which is going to get you a T every time. The ball bounced off Miller's head out of bounds that other time, and the traps on Roy worked perfectly and I honestly didn't see a foul.

and tbh there were some terrible no-calls that went against Dallas earlier. Even Hollinger wrote that it was a horribly officiated game for both sides.

Yeah, weird game. Refs were letting a lot of stuff go, yet the Mavs shot a lot of free throws. Refs missed an obvious travel on Roy in the first half that led to an easy Portland basket.

Blazers lost their composure over a couple of questionable calls.

tlongII
04-10-2010, 12:12 AM
@blazersedge: the nba has just issued a memo correcting 74 calls made in the 1st quarter of tonight's game. please don't print the memo. it's green week.

Ghazi
04-10-2010, 12:17 AM
I prefer this brand of officiating to ticky tacky bullshit, tbh.

I thought both teams got away with some shit. Refs may have slightly favored Dallas but didn't decide the outcome, imho.

PGDynasty24
04-10-2010, 12:18 AM
As a Laker fan who doesnt care much for either team. The refs really did help the mavs out and favored them. But the Portland fans were acting like a bunch of babies. But it's the NBA what do u expect,refs are unpredictable

JordanL
04-10-2010, 12:30 AM
The refs clearly favored one team over the other and it wasn't close.

But that isn't why the Blazers lost. The Blazers lost by being idiots.

I whole-heartedly support the fans on this one though, especially the courtside ones that paid big money to see athlete play, not refs blow.

Someone threw something at the refs in this one, which is why the fan talking got ejected. Refs felt threatened.

Good. They should be threatened after performing so incompetently.

But like I said, the Blazers lost not because the refs threw the game (because Dallas played like a pile of shit the whole game) but because they let the refs get in their head.

sefant77
04-10-2010, 12:36 AM
Blazers whined and yelled from minute one.

Roy, Miller, even on obvious right calls. They didnt focus on the game.

I saw Roy more often yelling than making a good play...

monosylab1k
04-10-2010, 12:38 AM
The refs clearly favored one team over the other and it wasn't close.

But that isn't why the Blazers lost. The Blazers lost by being idiots.

I whole-heartedly support the fans on this one though, especially the courtside ones that paid big money to see athlete play, not refs blow.

Someone threw something at the refs in this one, which is why the fan talking got ejected. Refs felt threatened.

Good. They should be threatened after performing so incompetently.

But like I said, the Blazers lost not because the refs threw the game (because Dallas played like a pile of shit the whole game) but because they let the refs get in their head.

Yeah, the refs were clearly sticking it to the Blazers by letting Brandon Roy get away with a blatant double dribble.

JordanL
04-10-2010, 12:40 AM
Yeah, the refs were clearly sticking it to the Blazers by letting Brandon Roy get away with a blatant double dribble.

:lol

Wow. How classless are Dallas fans? I just blamed the loss on our team, and not the refs, and a fan of the winning team proceeds to whine about a call that the refs just blatently missed that cost them... two points. Not a lead, not anything, just two points.

sefant77
04-10-2010, 12:42 AM
:lol

Wow. How classless are Dallas fans? I just blamed the loss on our team, and not the refs, and a fan of the winning team proceeds to whine about a call that the refs just blatently missed that cost them... two points. Not a lead, not anything, just two points.

check ur sarcasm-meter

monosylab1k
04-10-2010, 12:44 AM
:lol

Wow. How classless are Dallas fans? I just blamed the loss on our team, and not the refs, and a fan of the winning team proceeds to whine about a call that the refs just blatently missed that cost them... two points. Not a lead, not anything, just two points.

:lol

Wow. How clueless are Portland fans? You said the refs clearly favored one team over the other. How does Roy getting away with a blatant double dribble help your point?

It takes a special breed of retard to say their team lost because the refs got in their head, but it wasn't the refs fault even tho they heavily favored the other team which is why they could get into the heads of the shitty team that lost to begin with.

Darthkiller
04-10-2010, 12:54 AM
one of the worst officated game ive ever seen. it's not 1 sided, just plain bad officating.

tlongII
04-10-2010, 12:54 AM
Actually the Blazers lost because the refs screwed us. There's no doubt about that and I don't have a problem saying it. It doesn't bother me though because I know we can beat the Mavs' ass.

dirk4mvp
04-10-2010, 01:05 AM
Actually the Blazers lost because the refs screwed us. There's no doubt about that and I don't have a problem saying it. It doesn't bother me though because I know we can beat the Mavs' ass.

Senile, tbh.

sefant77
04-10-2010, 01:06 AM
Actually the Blazers lost because the refs screwed us. There's no doubt about that and I don't have a problem saying it. It doesn't bother me though because I know we can beat the Mavs' ass.

...with Miller scoring 52 and Howard hitting long jumper in crunchtime :lol

A team with Brandon Roy crying about the refs, great.

6 points win, counting crappy calls/non-calls for the Blazers (Roy travel, Roy lowering the shoulder etc) i say Blazers still sucked way too much to win.

timvpimp
04-10-2010, 01:15 AM
In the final stretch, there was only one bad call - the no call on Andre Miller and the subsequent tech. The Terry/Batum thing was iffy but they both were going at it, it could have gone either way. Everything else was legit. Nate McMillan clearly dropped an F-Bomb which is going to get you a T every time. The ball bounced off Miller's head out of bounds that other time, and the traps on Roy worked perfectly and I honestly didn't see a foul.

and tbh there were some terrible no-calls that went against Dallas earlier. Even Hollinger wrote that it was a horribly officiated game for both sides.
it seems you're wrong here again supposedly. The refs are paid to prod the intensity of the game as hard as they can, so they just have to help the team by squelching the other when the game is about to come off balance, nothing about favour or whatsoever.

HarlemHeat37
04-10-2010, 01:19 AM
As an unbiased viewer, I thought the refs favored Dallas in the game, but Portland's fans in the arena overreacted to a lot of the non-calls, as usual..

The Blazers' announcers always compound the issue..

sefant77
04-10-2010, 01:25 AM
As an unbiased viewer, I thought the refs favored Dallas in the game, but Portland's fans in the arena overreacted to a lot of the non-calls, as usual..

The Blazers' announcers always compound the issue..

ty

monosylab1k
04-10-2010, 01:29 AM
As an unbiased viewer

:lol spurs fans always have a bias when it comes to Dallas.

HarlemHeat37
04-10-2010, 01:32 AM
I always treat the Mavs fairly here..

I made a thread discussing Dirk's love life in a sensitive way..pretty considerate and fair IMO..

JamStone
04-10-2010, 01:33 AM
As an unbiased non-observer (I didn't see any of the game, not even highlights), I'd say the refs were completely fair and consistent throughout the game and Blazer fans are being bitches.

mavsfan1000
04-10-2010, 01:34 AM
As an unbiased-observer, I think the Blazers are a bunch of whiners.

badfish22
04-10-2010, 02:50 AM
Dirks travel was fucking hilarious.

Mr.ChugDynasty
04-10-2010, 09:57 AM
As an unbiased-observer, I think the Blazers are a bunch of whiners.

+1
LMAO at andre miller thinking he deserves some kind of star treatment.

Killakobe81
04-10-2010, 11:57 AM
Horribly reffed game. They let A LOT of crap go early ...(many mentioned here) BUT what about Damp (or hatwood) smacking Rudy in theface for no call?

My son asked me who I wanted to win ...and I said Dallas at first ...but as the calls seemed to "Somewhat" favor Mavs i started to root for the BLazers.

I agree planty of missed calls BOTH ways and the fans whined A LOT ...

But those refs are lucky the fans did not get a hold of them "the vile and venom" that I could feel sitting at my home in "Frisco, TX" was very tangible listineing in 7.1 surround ...
In person? Must of been incredible and scary

mavsfan1000
04-10-2010, 12:03 PM
Horribly reffed game. They let A LOT of crap go early ...(many mentioned here) BUT what about Damp (or hatwood) smacking Rudy in theface for no call?

My son asked me who I wanted to win ...and I said Dallas at first ...but as the calls seemed to "Somewhat" favor Mavs i started to root for the BLazers.

I agree planty of missed calls BOTH ways and the fans whined A LOT ...

But those refs are lucky the fans did not get a hold of them "the vile and venom" that I could feel sitting at my home in "Frisco, TX" was very tangible listineing in 7.1 surround ...
In person? Must of been incredible and scary
Friday Night crowd in Portland. What do you expect. Every little call the crowd didn't like, they exaggerated it by getting so into it. Dallas crowds rarely gets that much into the game. Thus, the refs aren't usually hated as much over there. Or not noticed as much when they are reffing bad.

lil_penny
04-10-2010, 12:13 PM
I haven't seen blazers fans this upset during a game for years.. I can't remember the last time a fan got ejected either lol I actually watched the first half replay last night and damn there were some shitty calls then.

Killakobe81
04-10-2010, 12:14 PM
Friday Night crowd in Portland. What do you expect. Every little call the crowd didn't like, they exaggerated it by getting so into it. Dallas crowds rarely gets that much into the game. Thus, the refs aren't usually hated as much over there. Or not noticed as much when they are reffing bad.

I dont disagree BLazers have some passionate and crazy fans ...

But if i was reffing THAT game you had to be a bit nervous ...

Props to Terry and Najera for taking advantage of situation Caron too ...they had "devilish grins" on their mugs ...

Also that is why the numbnuts who claim no one wants to play OKC or Portland are foolish ...young teams always fall in the trap laid by the Mavs and the refs last night. (vet teams too like the Lakers in the LAST spur game but not as often)

Refs cant call eVERYTHING ...you must stay focused and play through crap calls ...

My first choice round one if I want an easy win is :
OKC or Portland Round 1
UTah or Phoenix Round 2
Denver in WCF (they

My perosnal choice for a battle and cuz I can drive out to the games would be SA, OKC and Dallas in WCF ...

badfish22
04-10-2010, 12:15 PM
I haven't seen blazers fans this upset during a game for years.. I can't remember the last time a fan got ejected either lol I actually watched the first half replay last night and damn there were some shitty calls then.

The Blazer fans seemed almost this upset last time we played them, and I thought the calls favored the Blazers during THAT game.
But last night, they did have some calls to be upset about. But there were bad calls both ways (more towards the blazers, i'll admit")

lil_penny
04-10-2010, 12:22 PM
The Blazer fans seemed almost this upset last time we played them, and I thought the calls favored the Blazers during THAT game.
But last night, they did have some calls to be upset about. But there were bad calls both ways (more towards the blazers, i'll admit")

Yea it was a definite playoff atmosphere.. if these two team meet it would be crazy.. dallas has always been a tough team for us.. I think it would be a very exciting series, Especially after watching last nights game.

lil_penny
04-10-2010, 12:27 PM
Also that is why the numbnuts who claim no one wants to play OKC or Portland are foolish ...young teams always fall in the trap laid by the Mavs and the refs last night. (vet teams too like the Lakers in the LAST spur game but not as often)

Refs cant call eVERYTHING ...you must stay focused and play through crap calls ...

My exact thoughts
I really hope this team used this as a woke up call on how to not react.. too much emotion fucked us imo. Brandon roy even said it last night that its better it happened tonight then in a week. Roy was acting like a panzy last night I can understand his frustration but he needs to keep it together as our leader, he had some un roy-like late game turnover and he was spending more time complaining then actually playing.

badfish22
04-10-2010, 01:18 PM
I actually agree with this article

PORTLAND – Earlier this week, the NBA had to own up to a missed call at the end of the Utah-Oklahoma City game, but that seems like small potatoes now. The league might have to apologize for all 48 minutes of Dallas’s 83-77 win over Portland.

Let me explain: I never like to mention officiating in a story because I feel like it cheapens the winning team’s accomplishment. Besides, part of winning basketball is knowing how to react to the officiating and staying composed when the calls go against you.

Tonight, however, I’m making an exception. I have to. It’s unavoidable; I’d be burying the main story if I didn’t. First, though, let me emphasize that Dallas won on merit: They completely stifled Brandon Roy, got 40 points from Dirk Nowitzki, and were a half-step quicker to most of the loose balls. They also reacted better to the officials than Portland to earn a huge road win in the battle for Western Conference seeding.

Nonetheless, the other story tonight is what everybody in the arena, regardless of which side they were cheering, will remember about this one: Put simply, this was as badly officiated a game as I’ve ever seen.

The calls were equally horrifying both ways, so the Blazers can’t use it as an excuse. It didn’t favor one team; it just turned the entire game into a mush of clutching, grabbing ugliness. In a related story, the winning team shot 33.8%. This wasn’t “letting them play” as much it was preventing them from playing.

As for blown calls, take your pick. My personal favorite was a triple-dribble in the open court by Roy that 20,693 of the 20,696 people in the Rose Garden Arena saw clearly. Unfortunately, the three that didn’t were officials Ken Mauer, David Guthrie and Sean Wright.

You could nominate ten to fifteen other egregious misses and have just as strong a case. A brief highlight reel would include Erick Dampier hitting Rudy Fernandez right across the face on a drive with no whistle; a foul called on Nicolas Batum for allowing Jason Terry to take a Pamplona-esque running charge at him off the ball; Dirk Nowitzki being assaulted by three Blazers on a crucial late possession that led to a steal and a three-point play for Portland; Brendan Haywood either jamming or dislocating a finger on a hack by Fernandez that went uncalled; and Dampier blatantly hacking Andre Miller on a drive about 18 inches from Mauer’s eyes, the replay of which nearly caused a riot. (Portland's crowd, incidentally, did not handle this with much class; several fans threw things and had to be escorted out).

Mauer was the culprit for most of the misses; normally among the league’s best zebras, he was unrelentingly awful. This isn’t revisionist history either – by early in the second quarter I had Tweeted that he’d uncharacteristically blown several calls, and it turned out he was just getting warmed up. Both Andre Miller and Blazers coach Nate McMillan picked up technical fouls yelling at him in the fourth quarter; those calls were merely questionable as opposed to overtly awful, but by that time Portland was overcome by frustration.

Which takes us to the second part of the story, the part that ultimately matters: Dallas won. The more experienced Mavs reacted better to all the blown calls, put their heads down and kept plowing away.

As McMillan put it afterward, “Get to the next play.” Portland didn’t always do it tonight and it cost them, perhaps dooming them to a No. 8 seed and a first-round pairing against the Lakers.

The Blazers can point to plenty of other reasons they lost besides the refs. They shot 10-of-49 on shots outside the paint; for a team built around offense and shooting, that won’t get it done. They missed seven free throws, committed 15 turnovers and, as I mentioned, gave away four free throw attempts on technical fouls; the Mavs stayed composed enough to not pick up a single tech, even though the bizarre officiating gave Dallas just as many excuses to vent its anger.

“We got upset about some calls,” said Roy, “but we just didn’t make shots. I think we reacted – maybe we overreacted. But I don’t think the technicals were the reason we lost. Offensively, we didn’t execute well.”

They’ll need to execute much better – and focus much better – if they’re going to get very far in the postseason. With upcoming battles against the Lakers and Thunder, they’ll need to regain their composure quickly. They might take a look at how the winning side reacted to the same environment tonight, and take a few pointers from it.

JordanL
04-10-2010, 01:27 PM
The refs were physically hit by things fans threw twice in this game... Once in the fourth, and then as they left the arena. As they left, I believe they got drink on their uniform too, but I'm not sure...

Just for reference, one of the guys that got ejected for throwing things onto the court (a tie thrown into the paint) was actually a media member... so not everyone was just pissed Portland was losing...

tlongII
04-10-2010, 01:28 PM
Fuck that article! I read that same article every time a team gets screwed by the refs. Oh your team should have kept their composure and not lost their cool! Bullshit. The game was reffed in a biased manner and that is a fact. Refs need to call fouls as they occur and be consistent for both teams. They also need to call game 81 of the season the same way they call game 41. That is all I ask. For some reason they decided to call this game different than all 80 games of the season that came previously. Unbeavable!

tlongII
04-10-2010, 01:30 PM
The last time I saw the fans react this bad in Portland was in the early 90's. A friend of mine near courtside was kicked out of the Memorial Coliseum back then.

mavsfan1000
04-10-2010, 01:36 PM
Fuck that article! I read that same article every time a team gets screwed by the refs. Oh your team should have kept their composure and not lost their cool! Bullshit. The game was reffed in a biased manner and that is a fact. Refs need to call fouls as they occur and be consistent for both teams. They also need to call game 81 of the season the same way they call game 41. That is all I ask. For some reason they decided to call this game different than all 80 games of the season that came previously. Unbeavable!
http://ladiesdotdotdot.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dawson-crying.jpg

badfish22
04-10-2010, 01:38 PM
Fuck that article! I read that same article every time a team gets screwed by the refs. Oh your team should have kept their composure and not lost their cool! Bullshit. The game was reffed in a biased manner and that is a fact. Refs need to call fouls as they occur and be consistent for both teams. They also need to call game 81 of the season the same way they call game 41. That is all I ask. For some reason they decided to call this game different than all 80 games of the season that came previously. Unbeavable!


As for blown calls, take your pick. My personal favorite was a triple-dribble in the open court by Roy that 20,693 of the 20,696 people in the Rose Garden Arena saw clearly. Unfortunately, the three that didn’t were officials Ken Mauer, David Guthrie and Sean Wright.

You could nominate ten to fifteen other egregious misses and have just as strong a case. A brief highlight reel would include Erick Dampier hitting Rudy Fernandez right across the face on a drive with no whistle; a foul called on Nicolas Batum for allowing Jason Terry to take a Pamplona-esque running charge at him off the ball; Dirk Nowitzki being assaulted by three Blazers on a crucial late possession that led to a steal and a three-point play for Portland; Brendan Haywood either jamming or dislocating a finger on a hack by Fernandez that went uncalled; and Dampier blatantly hacking Andre Miller on a drive about 18 inches from Mauer’s eyes, the replay of which nearly caused a riot. (Portland's crowd, incidentally, did not handle this with much class; several fans threw things and had to be escorted out).

JordanL
04-10-2010, 01:38 PM
http://ladiesdotdotdot.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dawson-crying.jpg

:lol

I really get a kick out of how much hutzpah you have over winning this one. The Blazers gave this game away by being stupid, and you're HAPPY that it was close until the last minute?

:lol

I hope we pull Mavs in the first round. Not because I think it would be easy, but because I think it would be entertaining, no matter who won.

tlongII
04-10-2010, 01:39 PM
As for blown calls, take your pick. My personal favorite was a triple-dribble in the open court by Roy that 20,693 of the 20,696 people in the Rose Garden Arena saw clearly. Unfortunately, the three that didn’t were officials Ken Mauer, David Guthrie and Sean Wright.

You could nominate ten to fifteen other egregious misses and have just as strong a case. A brief highlight reel would include Erick Dampier hitting Rudy Fernandez right across the face on a drive with no whistle; a foul called on Nicolas Batum for allowing Jason Terry to take a Pamplona-esque running charge at him off the ball; Dirk Nowitzki being assaulted by three Blazers on a crucial late possession that led to a steal and a three-point play for Portland; Brendan Haywood either jamming or dislocating a finger on a hack by Fernandez that went uncalled; and Dampier blatantly hacking Andre Miller on a drive about 18 inches from Mauer’s eyes, the replay of which nearly caused a riot. (Portland's crowd, incidentally, did not handle this with much class; several fans threw things and had to be escorted out).

I didn't say there were NO bad calls against the Mavs, but it was clear that the majority of questionable calls went in their favor. You can't argue that.

JordanL
04-10-2010, 01:54 PM
Hahaha...

I just saw a Blazer fan respond with nothing but this to the officiating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMh6O7HuI08

JustBlaze
04-10-2010, 02:01 PM
I dont disagree BLazers have some passionate and crazy fans ...

But if i was reffing THAT game you had to be a bit nervous ...

Props to Terry and Najera for taking advantage of situation Caron too ...they had "devilish grins" on their mugs ...

Also that is why the numbnuts who claim no one wants to play OKC or Portland are foolish ...young teams always fall in the trap laid by the Mavs and the refs last night. (vet teams too like the Lakers in the LAST spur game but not as often)

Refs cant call eVERYTHING ...you must stay focused and play through crap calls ...

My first choice round one if I want an easy win is :
OKC or Portland Round 1
UTah or Phoenix Round 2
Denver in WCF (they

My perosnal choice for a battle and cuz I can drive out to the games would be SA, OKC and Dallas in WCF ...

They what fool?! Can't even finish your sentence.:lmao

Findog
04-10-2010, 04:24 PM
:lol

Wow. How classless are Dallas fans? I just blamed the loss on our team, and not the refs, and a fan of the winning team proceeds to whine about a call that the refs just blatently missed that cost them... two points. Not a lead, not anything, just two points.

Your team lost because Brandon Roy and Andre Miller sucked dick. That's not the refs' fault.