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Kamnik
04-11-2010, 02:35 PM
I would appreciate any info and i aplogize if I missed any other thread discussing it... :toast

Mel_13
04-11-2010, 02:36 PM
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150520

Xevious
04-11-2010, 04:05 PM
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150520
In other words... no, no news.

poop
04-11-2010, 04:34 PM
they need to give him some steroids and hgh to speed up his recovery

in2deep
04-12-2010, 10:38 AM
bump!!!

honestfool84
04-12-2010, 10:44 AM
he'll probably be back for the Mavs game.




i don't know anything, though... just an assumption.

EricB
04-12-2010, 10:47 AM
Word is if not tonight then definately Wednesday...

Blackjack
04-12-2010, 11:58 AM
FWIW, Mike Taylor was told by Peter Burns (who was at the Denver game) that he heard George was going to try to give it a go against the Wolves.

Muser
04-12-2010, 12:00 PM
Be sweet if he comes back tonight. Scrub team to test him out and the if he's good to go he can get right into the mix with Dallas on Wednesday.

Mel_13
04-12-2010, 12:00 PM
FWIW, Mike Taylor was told by Peter Burns (who was at the Denver game) that he heard George was going to try to give it a go against the Wolves.

That would be great.

Mason can then resume his rightful place at the end of the bench.

Death In June
04-12-2010, 01:53 PM
Awesome. Seems a little soon, but I'll take it.

Spurs Brazil
04-12-2010, 02:29 PM
That would be great.

Mason can then resume his rightful place at the end of the bench.

I'd be great to see Mason behind the bench

crc21209
04-12-2010, 03:43 PM
i'd be great to see mason behind the bench

+1

SpursRulez4eVeR
04-12-2010, 03:44 PM
I'd be great to see Mason behind the bench

hell..he might as well sit on the other team's bench

santymrc
04-12-2010, 04:53 PM
hell..he might as well sit on the other team's bench

Well Mason is already playing with them... It would be natural... lol

blkroadrunners
04-12-2010, 06:26 PM
He's clear w/ Pop, so he's activated in the lineup for tonight :toast

crc21209
04-12-2010, 06:26 PM
He's clear w/ Pop, so he's activated in the lineup for tonight :toast

Yup, Don just reported on News4 that George has been activated and is expected to start tonight...

DesignatedT
04-12-2010, 06:27 PM
great news!!

DPG21920
04-12-2010, 06:28 PM
Playoff rotations start tonight?

crc21209
04-12-2010, 06:29 PM
Playoff rotations start tonight?

:tu Hopefully we get a glimpse of them...

MannyIsGod
04-12-2010, 06:31 PM
Would be nice. Will be interesting to see if Temple continues to start or if Parker or Hill will get the starting nod.

blkroadrunners
04-12-2010, 06:31 PM
Yup, Don just reported on News4 that George has been activated and is expected to start tonight...

Yea, I just heard it on the news as well.

crc21209
04-12-2010, 06:32 PM
Would be nice. Will be interesting to see if Temple continues to start or if Parker or Hill will get the starting nod.

According to Don Harris from News4 Hill will be in the starting line-up...

superjames1992
04-12-2010, 06:42 PM
Yup, Don just reported on News4 that George has been activated and is expected to start tonight...

So maybe Tony will be coming off the bench playoff time? Unless Manu is going back to the bench.

rayray2k8
04-12-2010, 06:43 PM
Just heard as well that Hill will start tonight. Heard it on 1250 the zone.

jason1301
04-12-2010, 06:45 PM
Anyone remember in 2005, when TP was playing for the French N, and was benched? they started playing much better :)

TampaDude
04-12-2010, 06:45 PM
ESPN.com still reporting Hill as OUT for this game.

MaNu4Tres
04-12-2010, 06:45 PM
So maybe Tony will be coming off the bench playoff time? Unless Manu is going back to the bench.

Tony will be coming off the bench. Pop wanted him to get used to it by starting Temple.

Tim also recently said that him and Tony have agreed to have the offense focused around Manu more.

crc21209
04-12-2010, 06:45 PM
ESPN.com still reporting Hill as OUT for this game.

Of course....it's ESPN. :lol

DesignatedT
04-12-2010, 06:46 PM
So maybe Tony will be coming off the bench playoff time? Unless Manu is going back to the bench.

Looks like its safe to say that it will be either tony or manu... hill will definitely be in the SL and rightfully so... mainly for defensive purposes. whoever starts or comes off the bench tony/manu wont really matter IMO.

Amuseddaysleeper
04-12-2010, 06:48 PM
I just hope that the Spurs first playoff game is on Sunday so they have as much time to rest as possible. Especially Ginobili, who recently admitted he's been exhausted during this stretch.

Old School 44
04-12-2010, 06:49 PM
KSAT's Greg Simmons said Hill will start against the T-wolves

crc21209
04-12-2010, 06:51 PM
I just hope that the Spurs first playoff game is on Sunday so they have as much time to rest as possible. Especially Ginobili, who recently admitted he's been exhausted during this stretch.

If I remember correctly I think last year's Game 1 was on a Saturday (I was there, so i think thats right) and Game 1 of the 08' 1st round series started on a Sunday...

ace3g
04-12-2010, 06:53 PM
spurs

RT @JMac_SAEN: Spurs have a new starting PG tonight. It's George Hill, with a surprise return from injury. Pop didn't believe it either.

TampaDude
04-12-2010, 06:53 PM
Of course....it's ESPN. :lol

:lol

scottspurs
04-12-2010, 07:00 PM
Great news now the spurs can test the playoff rotation for two games.

TD 21
04-12-2010, 07:11 PM
Like I've said all along, it doesn't really matter which of the three guards doesn't start. Together, they make up the best back court in the league and none are a liability in any specific area (with this being playoff time and his getting a month off, I expect adequate defense out of Parker) or a non starting caliber player (such as Bogans). Plus, Pop makes his first sub 5-7 minutes in, so whoever doesn't start, it's not like they'll be waiting a significant amount of time. They'll all get plenty of minutes, yet none should have to be overworked generally.

Andy25
04-12-2010, 07:15 PM
OMG THE SPURS ARE COMPLETE! We can't be stopped now. EVERYONE STAY HEALTHY AND GO!:hat:hat

Blackjack
04-12-2010, 07:18 PM
Just heard from RC that George's injury wasn't too significant, as there wasn't any ligament damage or anything torn (the ankle's sound), but the trauma to the peroneal tendon was basically bruised and it was just a pain threshold issue; RC stated that George is one of the toughest players he's ever been around and that he'd play if capable. He's just too great a competitor to sit because of a little pain.

TD 21
04-12-2010, 07:23 PM
I'm more concerned about Hill than I was Parker. Sure, there was/is the risk of Parker getting his hand hit, but so long as the bone has healed (and it supposedly has), it's unlikely anything could happen. With a sprained ankle and one Hill as recently as a couple of days ago supposedly couldn't move laterally on, there's a much higher risk for him re-aggravating that injury at a moments notice. Particularly for a perimeter player and one who will often start out on the opposition's top perimeter scorer, there's a lot of lateral movement involved.

Blackjack
04-12-2010, 07:29 PM
That's why it was good to hear there wasn't any ligament damage or that the injury wasn't very serious. He essentially had a bruise that didn't allow him to move laterally because of the pain. Once the pain subsides or becomes tolerable he should, for the most part, be no worse for the wear or any more susceptible to re-injury.

exstatic
04-12-2010, 07:30 PM
I'm more concerned about Hill than I was Parker. Sure, there was/is the risk of Parker getting his hand hit, but so long as the bone has healed (and it supposedly has), it's unlikely anything could happen. With a sprained ankle and one Hill as recently as a couple of days ago supposedly couldn't move laterally on, there's a much higher risk for him re-aggravating that injury at a moments notice. Particularly for a perimeter player and one who will often start out on the opposition's top perimeter scorer, there's a lot of lateral movement involved.

Since you're not a doctor, please leave the medical diagnoses to them. The Spurs, if anything, are OVERLY conservative. If he's back, he's OK.

Spurs Brazil
04-12-2010, 07:33 PM
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/04/hill-will-start.html

TD 21
04-12-2010, 07:34 PM
Who said I wasn't a doctor? And where did I say he wasn't okay? Learn to read. What I said was I'm more concerned about him re-aggravating his injury than I was Parker with his injury.

the crimson blur
04-12-2010, 07:36 PM
Since you're not a doctor, please leave the medical diagnoses to them. The Spurs, if anything, are OVERLY conservative. If he's back, he's OK.

This is not necessarily true. Some injuries can be played on. I have a feeling that if the playoffs weren't looming, he wouldn't be playing tonight.

ace3g
04-12-2010, 07:43 PM
what happen to Dice

Andy25
04-12-2010, 07:54 PM
I bet we are resting him for Dallas.

Spurs Brazil
04-12-2010, 08:01 PM
what happen to Dice

rest

TD 21
04-14-2010, 07:37 PM
Since you're not a doctor, please leave the medical diagnoses to them. The Spurs, if anything, are OVERLY conservative. If he's back, he's OK.

You were saying...

nkdlunch
04-14-2010, 07:39 PM
Hill hurt again. damn maybe out first few games of the playoffs

DesignatedT
04-14-2010, 07:41 PM
hill had no business even being on the court.... fuck

Spurs Brazil
04-14-2010, 08:14 PM
Hill out after cameraman run-in

By Jeff McDonald on Apr 14, 10

Spurs guard George Hill tweaked his previously injured right ankle stepping on a camera man in the first quarter of tonight's game at Dallas and will not return.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/04/hill-out-after.html

Blackjack
04-14-2010, 08:17 PM
I have a hard time finding correlation between the initial injury and the one suffered on account of a cameraman.

It sucks, but it's basketball; it happens.

Amarelooms
04-14-2010, 08:18 PM
I never want to see players hurt to what goes around comes around....Spurs are disrespecting the Mavs by sitting players. In a way I hope the Mavs lose this....if I were coach I'd sit Dirk, Kidd etc and only play JJB, Najera, Stevenson, etc

:elephant

TD 21
04-14-2010, 08:19 PM
You do? Well, I don't. It was already not 100% and that makes it more susceptible to injury. You don't go from not being able to do defensive slides to playing that quickly. If it were the playoffs, I'd understand. The coach is an idiot, end of story. He's handled almost everything wrong the past two years and he continually costs his team.

nkdlunch
04-14-2010, 08:19 PM
Hill is instrumental. He's hurt and we have a mountain to climb in round 1

Buddy Holly
04-14-2010, 08:19 PM
Hill hurt again. damn maybe out first few games of the playoffs

I doubt he's out any games.

nkdlunch
04-14-2010, 08:20 PM
Spurs are disrespecting the Mavs by sitting players.

:lmao

u mad bitch??????

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 08:22 PM
Did not look good.

I'm fucking pissed.

Wizard Popavich resting his star players to keep them fresh and healthy, then plays the player who was most recently injured to start the game.

amazing.

nkdlunch
04-14-2010, 08:24 PM
agree. if anybody had to rest it was Hill. Pop fuck up.


fucking POP !!!!!!!!

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 08:27 PM
I'm gonna tank. Gonna rest them. No need to do anything but free stroke it tonight.

Hill, you start.

TD 21
04-14-2010, 08:28 PM
But guys, he won four championships! You know what that means? Recent and current job performance be damned, he's immune from criticism.

Spursfan092120
04-14-2010, 08:29 PM
Spurs are disrespecting the Mavs by sitting players.
Wow..just when I thought you couldn't get stupider. This game doesn't mean shit to us...why would we take a chance on Manu and Tim getting hurt? That'd be ignorant.

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 08:36 PM
My most recently injured player. The one with an injury that is easy to aggravate in basketball. You. Hill. You're starting.

Danny.Zhu
04-14-2010, 08:38 PM
Damn it.

HankChinaski
04-14-2010, 08:43 PM
bunch whiny bitches in here.

It's a damn shame, hopefully it isn't serious.

shut up already

spursfaninla
04-14-2010, 08:44 PM
I am sure the thought was for Hill to get some shooting rhythm back. That is very random to get hurt by a camera-man. Hopefully that is not significant. If so, bad luck.

Walton Buys Off Me
04-14-2010, 08:55 PM
Can someone explain what happened?

I just turned on the game.

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 08:57 PM
Can someone explain what happened?

I just turned on the game.

Pop thinks this game is pointless to win with effort, so he rests duncan and ginobili. Following Pop's 2008-2010 patented total moronic bull shit line of thinking, he starts George Hill, who is actually the most recently injured player on the team that we will actually need in the playoffs.

1:29 into the game, Hill goes in for a layup and a camera man too close to him makes him tweak his ankle.

Hill out for the game

Walton Buys Off Me
04-14-2010, 08:59 PM
Thanks- how did it look?

A tweak or a sprain?

Is he playing this weekend?

rpduke
04-14-2010, 08:59 PM
Did he keep playing for a few minutes or immediately leave the game?

nkdlunch
04-14-2010, 09:00 PM
IMO Hill will miss at least first 2 games in the playoffs :(

EmptyMan
04-14-2010, 09:01 PM
I doubt anything major happened tonight with the paid off Camera Man (sourced by Terry no doubt).

Anytime you step on someone's foot, your ankle is goofy for a while.

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 09:02 PM
Thanks- how did it look?

A tweak or a sprain?

Is he playing this weekend?

like he hurt himself


we don't know


we have no idea

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 09:03 PM
Did he keep playing for a few minutes or immediately leave the game?

He hobbled to the other end of the court to play d, then seamed to fight through it but lacked obvious lateral quickness


he stayed in one more play then at a stopped play pop took him out

he stayed in like 20 more seconds after hurting it basically

VBM
04-14-2010, 09:05 PM
Excitement for playoffs just dropped about 30%...ugh

Russ
04-14-2010, 09:06 PM
1:29 into the game, Hill goes in for a layup and a camera man too close to him makes him tweak his ankle.

Hill out for the game

I'm sick of fucking camermen, airplanes that just sit on the runway all night and Derek fucking Fisher. :ihit

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 09:06 PM
Excitement for playoffs just dropped about 30%...ugh

hahahaha
i just said earlier in teh game blog how my giddiness for the playoffs dropped 45% seeing Hill limp off the court

amazing

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 09:06 PM
I'm sick of fucking camermen, airplanes that just sit on the runway all night and Derek fucking Fisher. :ihit

yeah i hope fisher gets AIDS

Man In Black
04-14-2010, 09:07 PM
He's fine. Fricken' Drama Queens.

It's at the 6:41 mark of the 1st quarter.

I can tell you that looking at it, he did tweak it but it didn't twist, it just slightly buckled and he was able to walk off on his own power. In what Pop concedes as a meaningless game, he did the right thing...he sent George to the back to get treated and will now have almost 2.5 days to heal it completely.

He'll be back for game 1...BOOK IT!

Russ
04-14-2010, 09:10 PM
He's fine. Fricken' Drama Queens. I can tell you that looking at it, he did tweak it but it didn't twist, it just slightly buckled and he was able to walk off on his own power. In what Pop concedes as a meaningless game, he did the right thing...he sent George to the back to get treated.
He'll be back for game 1...BOOK IT!

But it looked like Hill barely twisted it when he stepped on Fisher. This little fella may be a china doll.

VBM
04-14-2010, 09:11 PM
Hope you're right, my friend

Man In Black
04-14-2010, 09:12 PM
No Russ my bro,
On that particular play, he slipped off of Fish's foot and twisted from the forefoot back to the ankle. That kind of twisted ankle poses more of an issue than your standard variety roll.

VBM
04-14-2010, 09:15 PM
The other concern is this. Will we be getting a 90-100% george hill in game 1, or a 60-70% Hill? Defeats the purpose if one of our top players is limping around...

Man In Black
04-14-2010, 09:20 PM
He won't be limping from anything other than a tight ankle-tape job to serve and protect that ankle. We're getting an A-Grade George Hill for Round 1 and beyond.

Death In June
04-14-2010, 09:27 PM
Hopefully the cameraman is ritually sacrificed

Russ
04-14-2010, 09:28 PM
He won't be limping from anything other than a tight ankle-tape job to serve and protect that ankle. We're getting an A-Grade George Hill for Round 1 and beyond.

+ 1 to the "and beyond.":flag:

tp2021
04-14-2010, 09:29 PM
I think Pop just pulled him as a precaution...if you can believe such an ironic notion.

Cant_Be_Faded
04-14-2010, 09:32 PM
I'm Popavich. Game 1 in LA and I'm up by 12 points on the Lakers and Kobe has done jack shit all game with Bowen on him. Oh! Bowen with 5 fouls. 10 minutes left in the game. I'll sit Bowen.
Oh wow, we lost the game. I guess from here on out I will continue to baffle the logical mind with my coaching decisions.

Whisky Dog
04-14-2010, 09:38 PM
Hill was playing? Only thought is to get in game shape, but if the ankles still hobbled that was unneccesary

TD 21
04-14-2010, 09:42 PM
Sure he'll be back, but playing in a diminished state. The Spurs could use his defense against Terry, Barea, Beaubois (if he plays). How can he effectively guard them with limited lateral quickness? The Spurs also need his speed, scoring and ball handling. All of that will be limited, most likely. In a series that figures to be close, having your fourth best player limited could easily be the difference.

santymrc
04-14-2010, 10:07 PM
Any news on GH ankle?

DubMcDub
04-14-2010, 10:17 PM
Lotta internet doctors in this thread performing diagnoses over a television feed.

Death In June
04-14-2010, 10:46 PM
Lotta internet doctors in this thread performing diagnoses over a television feed.It's a good thing they're MDs (medical douche bags?) or I'd be worried.

Blackjack
04-14-2010, 11:06 PM
I'm Popavich. Game 1 in LA and I'm up by 12 points on the Lakers and Kobe has done jack shit all game with Bowen on him. Oh! Bowen with 5 fouls. 10 minutes left in the game. I'll sit Bowen.
Oh wow, we lost the game. I guess from here on out I will continue to baffle the logical mind with my coaching decisions.

:lol

SenorSpur
04-15-2010, 12:04 AM
Mavs post-game announcers indicated they saw Hill "limp out" the Spurs locker room.

VBM
04-15-2010, 12:05 AM
Mavs post-game announcers indicated they saw Hill "limp out" the Spurs locker room.

CIA Hill?:hat

Baseline
04-15-2010, 12:06 AM
Hill should not have been on the court at all.

All-time idiotic move by Pop. Even if he doesn't tweak the ankle in this game, does Pop expect his ankle to be better after playing on it, or after resting it for an additional 5 days before game 1? I mean, he rested Duncan and Manu, and neither of them are even hurt.

This guy Popovich defies reality.

duncan228
04-15-2010, 12:34 AM
“I don't know how bad it is,” Hill said. “I'll have to get an MRI this week. Still a lot of pain, though.”

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Spurs_Hill_exits_without_a_crutch.html

jjktkk
04-15-2010, 12:38 AM
yeah i hope fisher gets AIDS

Very classy comment.

DesignatedT
04-15-2010, 12:51 AM
“I don't know how bad it is,” Hill said. “I'll have to get an MRI this week. Still a lot of pain, though.”

Ice009
04-15-2010, 12:57 AM
Is that quote from tonight's game???????

TJastal
04-15-2010, 01:00 AM
Congrats Pop, you didn't play Ginobili and Duncan and got Hill injured in the process, guess the "half-ass" err... correction..."calculated" game plan really worked huh?

duncan228
04-15-2010, 01:00 AM
Is that quote from tonight's game???????

Yes, after the game.

jjktkk
04-15-2010, 01:18 AM
Is that quote from tonight's game???????

Yes, just read it. Hill exited the locker room after the game tonight, without crutches.

EricB
04-15-2010, 01:20 AM
three days of rest before game 1.

Just tweaked.

Should be ok for game 1.

DesignatedT
04-15-2010, 01:23 AM
ugh i hope hes alright. he shouldnt have been playing in the first place. dumbass medical staff :bang

itzsoweezee
04-15-2010, 01:29 AM
ugh i hope hes alright. he shouldnt have been playing in the first place. dumbass medical staff :bang

is there a medical staff that is more consistently wrong than the spurs'? i can't think of one. this has been going on for years now.

Man In Black
04-15-2010, 01:47 AM
It's amazing how easily some of you guys bitch. He could've tripped walking into his local HEB and some of you peeps would boycott the store and stop watching the Big 3 commercials.

He should be fine. It's all about pain management and limiting any kind of swelling. He walked off under his own power and while he may have limped out, you know what...
that's to be expected. He'll probably be doing alternate ice-pack then cool pack and have his foot locked into dorsiflexion for the evening. Then they'll go hydrotherapy to increase circulation, followed by exercises that specifically put the ankle in a position to accept work, and finally, a targeted massage to push out any kind of swelling. That's pretty much what's needed for the first 24-48 hours. He'll probably have the boot on for precautionary measures and then, he should be good to go.
You guys could say I'm wrong, but what if I'm right?

Man In Black
04-15-2010, 01:48 AM
is there a medical staff that is more consistently wrong than the spurs'? i can't think of one. this has been going on for years now.

Check the Lakers!

kaji157
04-15-2010, 01:54 AM
If there is a risk, i prefer him to skip game one. That´s the game we´ll have most rest after it (2 days) if he comes back for the second game on April 21th he´ll have 6 days rest, that should be enough.

Plus, you can overplay Manu a little bit given that he will have two days rest. I would do it if that assures me he will be fully healthy.

Baseline
04-15-2010, 02:12 AM
If there is a risk, i prefer him to skip game one. That´s the game we´ll have most rest after it (2 days) if he comes back for the second game on April 21th he´ll have 6 days rest, that should be enough.

Plus, you can overplay Manu a little bit given that he will have two days rest. I would do it if that assures me he will be fully healthy.

Totally agree. If any of you guys have played competitive ball before, then you've probably busted your ankles a few times, so you realize that the first couple of games back are the worst.

First, I think Hill came back too quickly. His entire game is based on athleticism and that's what we look to get from him. Secondly, he hurt himself in a game Pop deemed meaningless because he rested our two best players, thereby damaging our chances in the playoffs.

There's no excuse for either, but there's definitely no excuse for playing Hill tonight. What was to be gained from this?

I will never understand Popovich as long as I live.

Russ
04-15-2010, 02:23 AM
is there a medical staff that is more consistently wrong than the spurs'? i can't think of one. this has been going on for years now.

How about Portland's? From Walton to Oden.

SpurmzKilla
04-15-2010, 02:28 AM
yeah i hope fisher gets AIDS

Yo FUCK YO nigga. Fishes baby daughter got cancer muthafukka. He earned the right to do whatever he feel. If he wants to drop another .4 on you all azz then fuck it let it rain niggas

Laker Nation

Man In Black
04-15-2010, 02:32 AM
Totally agree. If any of you guys have played competitive ball before, then you've probably busted your ankles a few times, so you realize that the first couple of games back are the worst.

First, I think Hill came back too quickly. His entire game is based on athleticism and that's what we look to get from him. Secondly, he hurt himself in a game Pop deemed meaningless because he rested our two best players, thereby damaging our chances in the playoffs.

There's no excuse for either, but there's definitely no excuse for playing Hill tonight. What was to be gained from this?

I will never understand Popovich as long as I live.

Before that happened, GHill probably wanted to play, to get his timing back and to help speed up the process of shedding rust. Say he plays well enough to get the W and doesn't get hurt? Then this ENTIRE board would be laughing at MavFan.
Again, a player can get hurt anywhere and anytime. It's a catch-22 for all professional teams. From the QB in football, to the mid-fielder in soccer, to the point guard in hoops... sometimes, the field of play is all they want, and you let them play. It's not like he wasn't ready to play. That drive to the hoop was a thing of beauty.

crc21209
04-15-2010, 02:33 AM
three days of rest before game 1.

Just tweaked.

Should be ok for game 1.

Yup...

TJastal
04-15-2010, 02:37 AM
Totally agree. If any of you guys have played competitive ball before, then you've probably busted your ankles a few times, so you realize that the first couple of games back are the worst.

First, I think Hill came back too quickly. His entire game is based on athleticism and that's what we look to get from him. Secondly, he hurt himself in a game Pop deemed meaningless because he rested our two best players, thereby damaging our chances in the playoffs.

There's no excuse for either, but there's definitely no excuse for playing Hill tonight. What was to be gained from this?

I will never understand Popovich as long as I live.

If you listen to the apologists, Pop played Hill tonight because we were trying to win the game. In Pop's usual half-hearted, half-assedy, but still trying to win kind of way. It was a calculated move on POop's part. Because POop is such a calculating technician and all.

I don't think the message quite got through to the players that this was an important game that the spurs were still trying to win, albeit half-assedly, and Pop had to get in a few guys' faces and straighten em out, by golly.

:rollin

raspsa
04-15-2010, 04:54 AM
The league should really reconsider its policy of allowing photographers to sit behind the baseline.. they pose a risk to players.

romsho
04-15-2010, 04:59 AM
Yo FUCK YO nigga. Fishes baby daughter got cancer muthafukka. He earned the right to do whatever he feel. If he wants to drop another .4 on you all azz then fuck it let it rain niggas

Laker Nation

Shakespeare, is that you?

Seventyniner
04-15-2010, 07:35 AM
Totally agree. If any of you guys have played competitive ball before, then you've probably busted your ankles a few times, so you realize that the first couple of games back are the worst.

First, I think Hill came back too quickly. His entire game is based on athleticism and that's what we look to get from him. Secondly, he hurt himself in a game Pop deemed meaningless because he rested our two best players, thereby damaging our chances in the playoffs.

There's no excuse for either, but there's definitely no excuse for playing Hill tonight. What was to be gained from this?

I will never understand Popovich as long as I live.

The first two paragraphs contradict each other. If the first two games back after an injury are the worst, then those would be games 1 and 2 of the playoffs if Pop hadn't played Hill.

TJastal
04-15-2010, 07:49 AM
The first two paragraphs contradict each other. If the first two games back after an injury are the worst, then those would be games 1 and 2 of the playoffs if Pop hadn't played Hill.

Still better to have him healthy and playing bad for two games than injured and not playing at all.

The Truth #6
04-15-2010, 07:53 AM
Hill did play in a previous game. This wasn't his first game back, right? it was bad luck. I'm glad Parker didn't get injured too.

Dallas' confidence is probably good because they saw the same culprits from last playoffs shoot poorly.

G-Dawgg
04-15-2010, 10:09 AM
I hope He returns to start the series with Dallas, because if we have to start Parker then we're surely doomed.....lol.

kaji157
04-15-2010, 01:11 PM
Any news on George? Just checking the sport sites and there is no news on him. Anything on radio or TV?

easy7
04-15-2010, 01:16 PM
Yo FUCK YO nigga. Fishes baby daughter got cancer muthafukka. He earned the right to do whatever he feel. If he wants to drop another .4 on you all azz then fuck it let it rain niggas

Laker Nation

You give fake white eminim nigga wannabes a bad name.

jjktkk
04-15-2010, 01:22 PM
If you listen to the apologists, Pop played Hill tonight because we were trying to win the game. In Pop's usual half-hearted, half-assedy, but still trying to win kind of way. It was a calculated move on POop's part. Because POop is such a calculating technician and all.

I don't think the message quite got through to the players that this was an important game that the spurs were still trying to win, albeit half-assedly, and Pop had to get in a few guys' faces and straighten em out, by golly.

:rollin

Is that the apologists in your head your listening too, or just a nice ocean breeze going thru your ears?

Shank
04-15-2010, 01:44 PM
SAEN saying very questionable for G1

rjv
04-15-2010, 01:48 PM
SAEN saying very questionable for G1

link ?

widowmaker
04-15-2010, 01:48 PM
Yo FUCK YO nigga. Fishes baby daughter got cancer muthafukka. He earned the right to do whatever he feel. If he wants to drop another .4 on you all azz then fuck it let it rain niggas

Laker Nation

Fuck his whole family! He cant make a move unless I say so.:nope

benefactor
04-15-2010, 01:49 PM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he didn't play game 1. With a week between last night's game and game 2 it gives him plenty of time to get rest and be closer to 100%. The Spurs need him for the whole series, not just one game.

TJastal
04-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Is that the apologists in your head your listening too, or just a nice ocean breeze going thru your ears?

So smart aleck, what's your theory as to why Hill was playing in a supposedly "meaningless" game?

So far we've heard because it was a calculated risk to try to win the game but rest TD and Manu (which backfired predictably), and the other theory is that Hill needed to shake off all that rust that had built up over the past week.

So which is it, smartass?

jjktkk
04-15-2010, 02:32 PM
So smart aleck, what's your theory as to why Hill was playing in a supposedly "meaningless" game?

So far we've heard because it was a calculated risk to try to win the game but rest TD and Manu (which backfired predictably), and the other theory is that Hill needed to shake off all that rust that had built up over the past week.

So which is it, smartass?

Well dipshit, Giving Hill being out a few games, I'm guessing Pop wanted to make sure Hill's ankle is okay. Hindsight is 20 20 huh? I'm assuming you wanted Hill to sit out alongside Duncan and Ginoboli. So, because a of fluke accident, you threw out the ignorant apologists comment, and I just felt compelled to throw back some love to yea. Did I hurt your feelings? Cmon TJastal, by now you should know, if your gonna dish it out, you gotta take it.

Shank
04-15-2010, 02:33 PM
link ?

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36564624/ns/sports-player_news/

George Hill - G - San Antonio SpursMore team news
Today - 1:40 PM ET
George Hill will have an MRI on his re-injured right ankle.
Hill first suffered a strained right peroneal tendon on April 6. He returned for just two games before stepping on a cameraman's foot in the regular season finale on Wednesday. Consider Hill very questionable for Game 1 of the Spurs' series against the Mavericks.
Source: San Antonio Express-News

The Truth #6
04-15-2010, 02:51 PM
Well dipshit, Giving Hill being out a few games, I'm guessing Pop wanted to make sure Hill's ankle is okay. Hindsight is 20 20 huh? I'm assuming you wanted Hill to sit out alongside Duncan and Ginoboli. So, because a of fluke accident, you threw out the ignorant apologists comment, and I just felt compelled to throw back some love to yea. Did I hurt your feelings? Cmon TJastal, by now you should know, if your gonna dish it out, you gotta take it.

It's hard to say what Pop had in mind. It's obvious he was pissed once it happened. At the end of the first quarter he walked out by the free throw line and stared at the camerman for a while.

Looking back, if he wasn't going to play Manu and Tim, he probably should have benched Hill and Parker and used the game only to see how the young players perform to see if he can expect any production out of them. Unfortunately in the process, he saw that Bonner and Mason still can't hit the side of a barn vs. Dallas, which could possibly affect what sort of defense Dallas comes out with.

tmtcsc
04-15-2010, 03:14 PM
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36564624/ns/sports-player_news/

George Hill - G - San Antonio SpursMore team news
Today - 1:40 PM ET
George Hill will have an MRI on his re-injured right ankle.
Hill first suffered a strained right peroneal tendon on April 6. He returned for just two games before stepping on a cameraman's foot in the regular season finale on Wednesday. Consider Hill very questionable for Game 1 of the Spurs' series against the Mavericks.
Source: San Antonio Express-News

The only question is how many points he will score. He'll be ready.

tmtcsc
04-15-2010, 03:15 PM
It's hard to say what Pop had in mind. It's obvious he was pissed once it happened. At the end of the first quarter he walked out by the free throw line and stared at the camerman for a while.

Looking back, if he wasn't going to play Manu and Tim, he probably should have benched Hill and Parker and used the game only to see how the young players perform to see if he can expect any production out of them. Unfortunately in the process, he saw that Bonner and Mason still can't hit the side of a barn vs. Dallas, which could possibly affect what sort of defense Dallas comes out with.

Yeah, Bonner needs to fix that quick. Last year , he and Mason were completely marginalized. Time to show up and play like you got a pair. Mason is all tweet. I lost faith in his shot a long time ago..as did Pop it seems. Prove me wrong Mason.

jjktkk
04-15-2010, 06:17 PM
It's hard to say what Pop had in mind. It's obvious he was pissed once it happened. At the end of the first quarter he walked out by the free throw line and stared at the camerman for a while.

Looking back, if he wasn't going to play Manu and Tim, he probably should have benched Hill and Parker and used the game only to see how the young players perform to see if he can expect any production out of them. Unfortunately in the process, he saw that Bonner and Mason still can't hit the side of a barn vs. Dallas, which could possibly affect what sort of defense Dallas comes out with.

Yes, in hindsight. Just guessing here, but I think Pop wanted to see how far along Hill was progressing from his 1st injury. I doubt Pop would of played Hill more than 20 minutes. Just have to keep our fingers crossed that Hill can come back.

The Truth #6
04-15-2010, 06:22 PM
I couldn't tell if Hill was 100% before he got re-injured. He made a few quick moves but for the most part I thought he wasn't all the way back yet. This latest injury could set him back even more. Pop might hold him out Game 1 as others have stated but no one knows yet.

Hopefully they have a hyperbaric chamber they can stick his foot in for a few days and hope for the best results.

Fpoonsie
04-15-2010, 06:25 PM
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36564624/ns/sports-player_news/

George Hill - G - San Antonio SpursMore team news
Today - 1:40 PM ET
George Hill will have an MRI on his re-injured right ankle.
Hill first suffered a strained right peroneal tendon on April 6. He returned for just two games before stepping on a cameraman's foot in the regular season finale on Wednesday. Consider Hill very questionable for Game 1 of the Spurs' series against the Mavericks.
Source: San Antonio Express-News

Well, goddamn.

scottspurs
04-15-2010, 07:06 PM
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36564624/ns/sports-player_news/

George Hill - G - San Antonio SpursMore team news
Today - 1:40 PM ET
George Hill will have an MRI on his re-injured right ankle.
Hill first suffered a strained right peroneal tendon on April 6. He returned for just two games before stepping on a cameraman's foot in the regular season finale on Wednesday. Consider Hill very questionable for Game 1 of the Spurs' series against the Mavericks.
Source: San Antonio Express-News

Dang, spurs still win.

DPG21920
04-15-2010, 07:10 PM
This sucks badly. Hill has the ability to really help the Spurs this series match up wise. He will present problems for the Mavs if healthy.

Supergirl
04-15-2010, 07:19 PM
ugh, Spurs need Hill against the Mavs most of all. Not sure Temple is up for a series this big...and Parker is a little dicey too. This will determine whether the SPurs win. If they can get at least 80% out of Parker and Hill, Spurs will win.

Blackjack
04-15-2010, 07:26 PM
Losing Hill isn't a death knell for Game 1 (should he miss it) but the Spurs would definitely be put behind the 8 ball . . .

The Spurs need to get a split. Period. So if they can get Hill back for Game 2, which would give him about a week to mend, they're giving their selves a shot; who's to say that they don't pull off a win in Game 1?

It's not inconceivable.

Unlike some here, I don't have a problem with Pop's decision to play him. He was clearly rusty his first game back and both he and Tony needed the reps to get up to speed; the playoffs aren't a place to find a groove and get your rhythm back.

Forrest Gump Came up with a great saying for such a circumstance . . .

TD 21
04-15-2010, 08:04 PM
Winning game two isn't nearly as important as winning game one. Why? Because games three and four need to be wins and what's the likelihood of winning three straight games in this series? Not very good. Game one is the game. Otherwise, if the Spurs are to win this series it'll be in game seven. If they win game one, I expect them to win in six.

If Hill doesn't play in game one, that right there could swing the entire series, minor as it may seem. When two teams are this close, a fourth best player on one side missing one game (a game that team probably has to win to win the series) could be the difference.

Amuseddaysleeper
04-15-2010, 08:07 PM
I've stated this many times before, but the biggest problem with Hill going out isn't just losing him, but the fact that it leads to more minutes for Mason. Even if Mason gets 10 minutes a game, that's 10 minutes that the Spurs will instantly have their momentum zapped. I can't think of a worse player this year on the Spurs than Roger Mason (and god knows Bogans gave him competition for most of the season).

The Spurs can't afford any dead weight minutes from anyone on the roster. This is do or die for Bonner. I almost wish Pop would just stick to a 7 man rotation, and just leave it to Duncan, Dice, Blair, Parker, Gino, Hill, and Jefferson. Play Bonner very minimal if you have to, but the minute he starts shooting 20% from the floor, time to yank him. He's improved this year and has developed a nice hook shot so hopefully he can remain serviceable.


If there is anyone needed for PG duties in Hill's injury, it's has to be Temple at this point. I don't care if he's just a rookie, Mason is completely lost out there, and like Finley, if his shot isn't falling he's about as useless as they come.

At least Temple makes a difference on both sides of the ball. I just pray Pop plays the right players to the best of his abilities.

Baseline
04-15-2010, 08:48 PM
I'm livid about Popovich playing Hill so early after the ankle injury, and especially in the meaningless last regular season game. But if Hill can play from Game 2 on, the Spurs will win the series.

In fact, one of the biggest factors why we'll win is that Michael Finley isn't on the floor for us. His departure tightened up our rotation better than anything else Pop has ever tried.

Fpoonsie
04-15-2010, 09:02 PM
Unlike some here, I don't have a problem with Pop's decision to play him. He was clearly rusty his first game back and both he and Tony needed the reps to get up to speed; the playoffs aren't a place to find a groove and get your rhythm back.

Forrest Gump Came up with a great saying for such a circumstance . . .

"Shit happens"?

benefactor
04-15-2010, 09:30 PM
Winning game two isn't nearly as important as winning game one. Why? Because games three and four need to be wins and what's the likelihood of winning three straight games in this series? Not very good. Game one is the game. Otherwise, if the Spurs are to win this series it'll be in game seven. If they win game one, I expect them to win in six.

If Hill doesn't play in game one, that right there could swing the entire series, minor as it may seem. When two teams are this close, a fourth best player on one side missing one game (a game that team probably has to win to win the series) could be the difference.
It's a bit of a catch-22. I understand what you are saying with winning three games in a row being a tall order, but one has to weigh that against bringing Hill back too early and losing him for the entire series. If he is not very close to 100%, I would much rather them take their chances without him in game 1.

Blackjack
04-15-2010, 09:41 PM
"Shit happens"?
:tu

http://foodcourtlunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/forrestgump.jpg
Bumper Sticker guy: WOAH! Man, you just ran through a big pile of dog shit!
Forrest Gump: It happens.
Bumper Sticker guy: What, shit?
Forrest Gump: Sometimes.

It's a bit of a catch-22. I understand what you are saying with winning three games in a row being a tall order, but one has to weigh that against bringing Hill back too early and losing him for the entire series. If he is not very close to 100%, I would much rather them take their chances without him in game 1.
Yup. :tu

Death In June
04-15-2010, 10:06 PM
Well, what the fuck. Where are the MRI results?

jjktkk
04-15-2010, 10:14 PM
it's a bit of a catch-22. I understand what you are saying with winning three games in a row being a tall order, but one has to weigh that against bringing hill back too early and losing him for the entire series. If he is not very close to 100%, i would much rather them take their chances without him in game 1.

+1

Mixability
04-15-2010, 10:29 PM
it'd be nice to have him for game 1, but let him rest, i'm sure parker can handle the playoff pressure... lol

honestfool84
04-16-2010, 01:22 AM
front page.

romsho
04-16-2010, 08:13 AM
Certainly an MRI was done yesterday, but nothing official from the Spurs nor even speculation from those who cover the NBA. At the moment, is there a bigger unanswered question regarding the Spurs pre-playoffs than the status of George Hill? Stein, Ford, Wojnarowski...would someone please go do some fucking reporting? Thanks.

nkdlunch
04-16-2010, 09:39 AM
damn. Hill was gonna be the X factor in this series IMO.

:pctoss

I say don't rush Hill. He will be out first 2 games and hopefully come back in game 3

Lebowski Brickowski
04-16-2010, 11:17 AM
I've stated this many times before, but the biggest problem with Hill going out isn't just losing him, but the fact that it leads to more minutes for Mason.
:madrun:cry:smchode::td:huh:spless::hang:pctoss:ma drun

poop
04-16-2010, 11:21 AM
if the mavs were real men and had any honor they would force caron butler to stomp on someones shoe until his own ankle gets sprained just to keep things fair.

Baseline
04-16-2010, 12:39 PM
C'mon, somebody....what are the MRI results?

cd98
04-16-2010, 01:39 PM
Is this the most clandestine the Spurs have ever been about an injury? Generally this stuff is reported by the second day after the injury.

Death In June
04-16-2010, 01:43 PM
I'm a little unfamiliar with NBA rules, but is it not like the NFL, which has to report injury status well in advance of a game?

Fpoonsie
04-16-2010, 01:48 PM
Well, considering Pop's trickeration that led to me wasting money on the last game's tix, I'm not at ALL surprised that things are so damn quiet on the Spurs' end.

Höfner
04-16-2010, 01:49 PM
Spurs saying nothing is either really good or really bad.

Really good = Mavs will get an unexpected dose of Hill's mamba down their thorats
Really bad = Hill is done for the first round save spot minutes

TJastal
04-19-2010, 07:17 AM
Well ain't this a bitch.... Popazit plays Hill in a meaningless last game of the year (well, almost meaningless.. he was still trying to win....(you know calculated risk and all) and Hill reinjures ankle and is completely ineffective in game 1 and things don't look promising for the rest of the series.

Meanwhile, smart coaches that actually sat their star players for meaningless games (Shaq / Bynum) are reaping the rewards of not being stupid.

I'm sure the popalogists will still spin it all as something positive and call it "brilliant". :lol

MaNu4Tres
04-19-2010, 07:29 AM
Sit Hill til Friday....Free Temple