mayweather/mosley

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I know everyone wants and is waiting for mayweather/pac man but i'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about this. it's less than 3 weeks away and should be a big bout. i don't like his chances, but i'll be rooting for mosley all the way. age isn't his friend at this stage but it would be fun to see him kick bitch ass mayweathers ass. the HBO 24/7 episode that just aired makes my hate for mayweather reach devastating proportions.

[cheguevara]

boring

[Ashy Larry]

yeah, its should be a pretty good fight ...... we finally have the best 147ers fighting one another .....

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd will dominate..

[dbreiden83080]

24/7



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[TheMACHINE]

yeah, its should be a pretty good fight ...... we finally have the best 147ers fighting one another .....

you mean who ever wins will fight the best 147er next.

[dbreiden83080]

you mean who ever wins will fight the best 147er next.

If he is willing to take the right drug tests..

[Ashy Larry]

you mean who ever wins will fight the best 147er next.

no, i mean the best 147ers are fighting one another, including Manny and Cotto in that bunch as well...... everyone is finally going up against one another .......

[Ashy Larry]

Floyd will dominate.. it wont be that easy....... hell, its not like Shane has to fear Floyd's power and if Shane can stay busy and kepp Floyd on the defensive, then he has a great chance. Kinda hard to mount any offense when you're on defense all the time ......

[dbreiden83080]

it wont be that easy....... hell, its not like Shane has to fear Floyd's power and if Shane can stay busy and kepp Floyd on the defensive, then he has a great chance. Kinda hard to mount any offense when you're on defense all the time ......

I like Floyd's elusive style and accurate punching to take over here after some close early rounds. He's the more accurate and skilled of the two. Shane is gonna fade bad late in the fight IMO..

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd is a decent sized favorite..


Mayweather is the obvious clear favorite in this fight with a payout set at -450, while Mosley is at +300. The over/under on rounds is set at 11 1/2 with the over at -365 and the under at +285.

http://www.sportsbookgurus.com/news/floyd-mayweather-favored-over-shane-mosley-on-may-1

[TheMACHINE]

If he is willing to take the right drug tests..

lets hope something works out.

[TheMACHINE]

no, i mean the best 147ers are fighting one another, including Manny and Cotto in that bunch as well...... everyone is finally going up against one another .......

gotcha

[dbreiden83080]

lets hope something works out.

Watching that show, it really is no joke with that testing. They show up whenever they want, follow you around all day long until you give them the blood and urine.

[Whisky Dog]

The way Mosely dominated Margarito I wouldn't be surprised if he wins this fight. Dude has gained serious pop in his gloves as he's gotten older and is still fast. I never thought anyone in this weight class would have the power to knock Margarito senseless like that.

[Ashy Larry]

I like Floyd's elusive style and accurate punching to take over here after some close early rounds. He's the more accurate and skilled of the two. Shane is gonna fade bad late in the fight IMO..


The way Margarito kept coming at him and wouldn't let him rest showed that Richardson had Shane in great shape. If he can withstand that pressure, I surely doubt he should have any problem with Floyd's pressure.

[Ashy Larry]

The way Mosely dominated Margarito I wouldn't be surprised if he wins this fight. Dude has gained serious pop in his gloves as he's gotten older and is still fast. I never thought anyone in this weight class would have the power to knock Margarito senseless like that.

Guess once they removed those cement slab from his wraps, 50% of his punching power went bye bye. Now AM can take a punch because even though he probably had illegally wrapped hands against Cotto, Cotto tagged him with some great shots. Shane is on another level as far as strength. Dude pushes 3 bills plus at his size.

[Ashy Larry]

Watching that show, it really is no joke with that testing. They show up whenever they want, follow you around all day long until you give them the blood and urine.


Floyd had them waiting until like 11:30 p.m. ............ :lol

[dbreiden83080]

The way Margarito kept coming at him and wouldn't let him rest showed that Richardson had Shane in great shape. If he can withstand that pressure, I surely doubt he should have any problem with Floyd's pressure.

So are you picking Shane?? Shane is still great but he is not what he once was in terms of his defense. He was never a defensive wiz to guys that refused to stand in front of him. I look at the 2 Oscar fights. This is prime Shane Mosley now. First one they basically brawled for large portions of the fight and it was thrilling yet not the smartest tactic for Oscar. And Shane barely edged it out, very close fight. 2nd fight Oscar used footwork, angles and his jab way more. Shane was lost the first half of that fight. He got it going in the 2nd half but IMO did not do enough to win. Hell Shane's own father said "You need to KO him to win" in the 12th. Not long ago Cotto was able to outpoint him late as well. He outboxed Shane to win the later rounds. His fight with Mayorga was nothing to be screaming pound for pound #1 either. I think we may be basing too much about Shane on one fight right now. The Margorito fight was great but it was just one fight. I really think Floyd is the most talented guy in the sport. He'll be called upon to showcase all of it in the fight, Shane will make him. But in the end i expect Floyd to rise to the challenge.



Guess once they removed those cement slab from his wraps, 50% of his punching power went bye bye. Now AM can take a punch because even though he probably had illegally wrapped hands against Cotto, Cotto tagged him with some great shots. Shane is on another level as far as strength. Dude pushes 3 bills plus at his size.

Is it really possible this guy was illegally wrapping his hands for other fights and they never caught it? What the hell was the commission doing not catching it? And the fact that he is ever allowed to fight is horrendous IMO. He tried to bring basically brass knuckles into the ring that night with Shane. Cheating like that should not be forgiven..


Floyd had them waiting until like 11:30 p.m. ............

I know i was thinking gee Floyd, how long does it take for you to take a piss??? :lol

[TheMACHINE]

I like Shane in this one. Just basing on the fact that i havent seen anything in the past (at this weight class) that makes me think Floyd can dominate a guy with this size and strength....unless you want to count DLH.

[dbreiden83080]

I like Shane in this one. Just basing on the fact that i havent seen anything in the past (at this weight class) that makes me think Floyd can dominate a guy with this size and strength....unless you want to count DLH.

I think Floyd can dominate Shane by being elusive accurate and making Shane nuts trying to find him. I don't see what some say about the "hand speed being about the same". Floyd is faster and he is more accurate. Shane looked so great against Margorito but lets not forget he had a stationary target in front of him. Margorito wants to wear you down by taking your best shots and over-coming you with volume. Floyd is not going to be there for Shane to hit like that..

[TheMACHINE]

I think Floyd can dominate Shane by being elusive accurate and making Shane nuts trying to find him. I don't see what some say about the "hand speed being about the same". Floyd is faster and he is more accurate. Shane looked so great against Margorito but lets not forget he had a stationary target in front of him. Margorito wants to wear you down by taking your best shots and over-coming you with volume. Floyd is not going to be there for Shane to hit like that..

We'll see how it goes. Old ass DLH got a split decision against PBF based on voulme of punches. PBF might be good at being elusive, but im quite curious to see if he throws enough accurate punches to make it seem like he won the round.

[dbreiden83080]

We'll see how it goes. Old ass DLH got a split decision against PBF based on voulme of punches. PBF might be good at being elusive, but im quite curious to see if he throws enough accurate punches to make it seem like he won the round.

I love Oscar but his fight with Floyd was not very close. Some close ones early but got blasted pretty much the whole 2nd half. I had it 8-4 Floyd. Oscar of his prime might have won that fight. Floyd will have to step up here. He is going to be pushed in the first half of this fight for sure..

[TheMACHINE]

I love Oscar but his fight with Floyd was not very close. Some close ones early but got blasted pretty much the whole 2nd half. I had it 8-4 Floyd. Oscar of his prime might have won that fight. Floyd will have to step up here. He is going to be pushed in the first half of this fight for sure..

lets say he gets pushed hard in the first half (like you mentioned)...wouldnt he have to open up a bit to try to gain the rounds for the second half leaving him more open for some punches?

[dbreiden83080]

lets say he gets pushed hard in the first half (like you mentioned)...wouldnt he have to open up a bit to try to gain the rounds for the second half leaving him more open for some punches?

Youre assuming he'll be behind. I don't think he'll be back, maybe about even through 6. I'm saying as the fight goes Shane may find Floyd harder and harder to hit.. He gets more aggressive and is counter-punched like crazy.

[dbreiden83080]

This should be an easy fight for PBF, but I give Shane a punchers chance. Hell, Cotta, Winky and Oscar out boxed Shane. Shane will have to throw lots of combos to win over the judges.

Basically how i see it.

[Whisky Dog]

Guess once they removed those cement slab from his wraps, 50% of his punching power went bye bye. Now AM can take a punch because even though he probably had illegally wrapped hands against Cotto, Cotto tagged him with some great shots. Shane is on another level as far as strength. Dude pushes 3 bills plus at his size.

Yeah I was talking about Margarito's ability to take vicious head shots and keep coming like he did against Cotto, etc. That had nothing to do with the cheating wraps, his chin was legitimate and Shane knocked him into daze. I never thought I'd see anyone knock Margarito like that in that weight range. Dude has serious pop.

Key is if Shane is still cagey and quick enough to put that leather on Floyd enough to slow him down/stun him a bit. I'd work the body like a mofo if I was him and take Floyd's movement advantage away. Ribs, arms, chest, doesn't matter just punch the shit out of his body to bring his hands down a bit and possibly slow the ability to roll and slide punches upstairs. To me Floyd has to be near flawless because if Shane dazed him he could be in serious trouble.

[TheMACHINE]

Yeah I was talking about Margarito's ability to take vicious head shots and keep coming like he did against Cotto, etc. That had nothing to do with the cheating wraps, his chin was legitimate and Shane knocked him into daze. I never thought I'd see anyone knock Margarito like that in that weight range. Dude has serious pop.

Key is if Shane is still cagey and quick enough to put that leather on Floyd enough to slow him down/stun him a bit. I'd work the body like a mofo if I was him and take Floyd's movement advantage away. Ribs, arms, chest, doesn't matter just punch the shit out of his body to bring his hands down a bit and possibly slow the ability to roll and slide punches upstairs. To me Floyd has to be near flawless because if Shane dazed him he could be in serious trouble.

basically how i see it.

[dbreiden83080]

I was gonna post the 2nd 24/7 show but it was really boring..

It's on youtube though for anyone interested..

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t minus 11 days...

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going down a week from today

[Ashy Larry]

Gotta love that Mayweather Camp ....just seems like fun to be around

[dbreiden83080]

Gotta love that Mayweather Camp ....just seems like fun to be around

Between Floyd's love of money, his love of spending it and his huge ego the guy is gonna be broke not long after his career is over.

[TheMACHINE]

wsnt he broke during retirement?

[Whisky Dog]

I liked both of those fights tonight - Angulo with a sweet knockout and Adamek schooling Fat Arreola for 12 rounds.

Also, last week's was bad ass with my fav fighter to watch right now, Sergio Martinez, making Pavlik's head all shades of bloody. Finally got a fair shake after being robbed by asshole judges twice in a row when he clearly dominated Cintron and beat Paul Wiiliams.

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Mayweather is a big -450 moneyline favorite while Mosley is a +300 underdog in Boxing Lines at betED.com. The round over/under total is 11.5 (Over, -365; Under, +285).

http://www.capperspicks.com/blog/fight-club/free-mayweather-vs-mosley-pick-boxing-odds-260909/

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after watching the latest 24/7, i am fucking pumped for saturday. i'm praying for a miracle upset. where's everybody watching it? we're going to grill out here and invite some friends and fam to host this time out.

[TheGreatest23]

I dont know who i want to win. the only reason I want Mayweather to win is so i can see him lose to pacquiao.

[Ashy Larry]

should be a good fight .... if Shane can stay busy he can win this fight based on Floyd being a defensive fighter fight.

Should be Floyd's fight though.......

[tlongII]

Floyd will win by a decision. Even if he loses he'll win. Too much money riding on PBF vs Pac-Man.

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd will take this fight pretty easy if he weathers the early storm. By middle rounds i see him dominating and winning a lopsided decision.

[InRareForm]

can someone PM me a site to watch this

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RoFl.. anyone see the last 24/7? mayweather had his 7 man security crew (some big mothafuckas) remove a parked car so that he can park his escalade front row? jesus I hope Mosley can find a way to pull it out. should be a pretty goddamn good fight. i hope so for the money i'm investing in ordering it plus food and beer.

[DJ Mbenga]

hopefully this isnt a dance off the whole night.

[dbreiden83080]

This is probably going the distance, lets start already..

[Warlord23]

Circus act? This guy is ridiculous

[slick'81]

lol and here we go

[slick'81]

not much there but ill give rnd1 to floyd

[dbreiden83080]

Round 1 Floyd he is way faster early..

[slick'81]

mosley is fucking him up

[Warlord23]

Mayweather got rocked there

[slick'81]

1-1 to the 3rd

[dbreiden83080]

WOW

Floyd was hurt in Round 2 there

He better get it together..

[dbreiden83080]

Lets see how Floyd reacts to this

[slick'81]

good round for money

[DJ Mbenga]

stupid speed. he is just running away

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd right back easily wins round 3

[slick'81]

i got floyd with the last 2 rnds easy 3-1mayweather

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd is way faster easily wins round 4 i have it 3-1 Money

Lederman has it even..

[slick'81]

everyone said mosley was the bigger guy but floyd is physically bigger and looks stronger than shane

[Warlord23]

Mosley seems exhausted and Floyd is slowly but surely grinding him down

[DJ Mbenga]

suddenly this got boring

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd is in full command through 5

4-1 easy

[dbreiden83080]

Mosley seems exhausted and Floyd is slowly but surely grinding him down

Your right Shane breathing very heavy in the corner

[slick'81]

shane getting fucked up in rnd6

[DJ Mbenga]

we are headed to a decision

[dbreiden83080]

Money's immense skills is on display

He is winning with ease..

[slick'81]

we are headed to a decision

yeah a unanimous one :lol

[slick'81]

shane is exhausted like hes got nothing left

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd is dessimating Mosley with right hands

6-1 Money

[slick'81]

lol shane talking to floyd and hes promptly busted in the face your too nice shane

[dbreiden83080]

Mosley is getting dirty in there

Desperation as he is getting killed..

[SpursTillTheEnd]

mayweather is toying with mosley, no one can beat floyd

[Warlord23]

This one is close to being over. Mosley has no power left, and he's just too far behind on points

[slick'81]

this is turning into mayweather/marquez part2 total domination

[dbreiden83080]

Sparring session for Floyd

[dbreiden83080]

mayweather is toying with mosley, no one can beat floyd

He will do this to Manny as well

Too much skill and too hard to hit..

[slick'81]

mosleys manager naz going off

[dbreiden83080]

Hate em all you want

Money is one amazing fighter..

[SpursTillTheEnd]

pacman vs mayweather make this shit happen already, pacman is the only fighter that atleast has a chance to beat floyd

[dbreiden83080]

1 round to go


10-1 Floyd..

[slick'81]

1 round to go


10-1 Floyd..


agreed after the 2nd round mayweather has been in cruise control

[dbreiden83080]

pacman vs mayweather make this shit happen already, pacman is the only fighter that atleast has a chance to beat floyd

There is no other fight for either guy..

[DJ Mbenga]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[dbreiden83080]

Complete destruction for Floyd

One moment for Shane in round 2 and that was it

11-1 Floyd..

[TheGodfather]

[quote=dbreiden83080;4305109]He will do this to Manny as well

:lmao

[slick'81]

thats a wrap is paquiao/mayweather doesnt happen it will be a damn shame

[dbreiden83080]

Shane was supposed to be a real WW that would push Floyd and it was a fucking sparring session.. JMM gave Manny hell twice and Floyd beat him down like he was nothing..

Money will beat down Manny..

[slick'81]

Shane was supposed to be a real WW that would push Floyd and it was a fucking sparring session.. JMM gave Manny hell twice and Floyd beat him down like he was nothing..

Money will beat down Manny..


still i would love to see it

[Stringer_Bell]

Shane was supposed to be a real WW that would push Floyd and it was a fucking sparring session.. JMM gave Manny hell twice and Floyd beat him down like he was nothing..

Money will beat down Manny..

Mosley had no motivation to go for the win, simple as that. He had a chance in the 2nd, but it looked like he blew his load in that round and Mayweather put a cheap shot on him and then dug into him with those jabs for the rest of the fight.

Funny how he called Mosley a "tough customer," it's true. He bought into the pay day before he bought into competition. If someone paid me 10m to get my ass beat in the ring with Mayweather, I'd be smiling too after it was over (with whatever teeth I had left!), BUT...that's why Manny is different and why he'd rock Mayweather like no one ever has. He's got the motivation of an entire country behind him, it's not just a pay day. :ihit

[DMX7]

Glad I didn't pay for this fight. I'll watch the replay next week though. I had a feeling "Money" was going to put this fool away.

[mexicanjunior]

Shane looked his age tonight. The guy is almost 40 and I guess it was just a matter of time before he became over the hill. Tonight was his step over that ledge. It was sad really...he looked like he had Parkinson's or something.

That said though, it was nice to see Floyd actually get staggered in the 2nd round with a clean shot. First time I've seen him come that close to hitting the canvas. Too bad Shane couldn't follow up...

[DMX7]

Manny is a scrub compared to Floyd.

Probably. But Manny is certainly a pussy bitch for not agreeing to olympic style drug testing.

[TheGodfather]

Manny would beat the shit out of Gayweather. Unfortunately we'll never know for sure because Fraud is too chicken to fight him.

[dbreiden83080]

Mosley had no motivation to go for the win, simple as that.

No motivation. Did you see the 24/7 shows? Mosley has been on his hands and knees begging for Floyd or Manny to fight him for like 1 year and a half. And his payday was supposedly like 7 mil, compared to Floyd 30 mil. If he wanted a huge payday his motivation was to win this fight and get a big payday rematch with Floyd or another big fight with Manny. By being dessimated like this, he gets neither and his career is officially winding down..



that's why Manny is different and why he'd rock Mayweather like no one ever has. He's got the motivation of an entire country behind him, it's not just a pay day. :ihit


I don't believe Manny has the skill set to beat Floyd. He is nowhere near the boxer that Floyd is and Floyd is just way too damn hard to hit, combined with great counter punching to just get over-whelmed by volume of shots. When Manny misses his big shots, Floyd is gonna make him pay over and over again. He won't finish Manny but it will be another lopsided decision like this one was.. IF Manny was outboxed for 2 fights by Marquez, imagine what Floyd will do in there..

[florige]

I like Floyd's elusive style and accurate punching to take over here after some close early rounds. He's the more accurate and skilled of the two. Shane is gonna fade bad late in the fight IMO..

Damn dude you pretty much called this fight spot on!

[dbreiden83080]

Damn dude you pretty much called this fight spot on!

I blew my Oscar/Manny pick bad so i needed a comeback.. :lol

[Kermit]

So will Manny stop being such a pussy now and accept the drug testing? I doubt it. He's to busy trying to sue.

[resistanze]

So will Manny stop being such a pussy now and accept the drug testing? I doubt it. He's to busy trying to sue.

He'll never accept it now. It probably look strange he became so outraged initially, only to accept the same test 1 year later. PBF may be a prick but Manny had the opportunity to shut him up and chose not to take it.

[LakasRool4eva]

mayweather is still da GOAT............pacman aint gunna have nothing for him trust me...........................

[milkyway21]

Probably. But Manny is certainly a pussy bitch for not agreeing to olympic style drug testing.

Pacquiao does not need Mayweather, it's Mayweather who is afraid of Pacman otherwise he agrees to do the drug testing a day afterthey fight, not a day before.

The day after, take or leave it. Simple as that. He has no reputation to protect like Mayweather, he lost to other boxers before and came back winning again, so no pressure.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather will be the biggest fight ever in many years after Ali. You just don't know who to pick. I am certain of one thing though...
His name will be MANNY:lol


nice article here...
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Ken/Hissner050210.htm

“Pac Man” has no fear of Mayweather. Can Mayweather say the same toward Pacquiao? I believe the blood tests are a perfect example. Who is Mayweather to demand something of Pacquiao who is the best pound for pound and holder of a championship belt? Pacquiao doesn’t need Mayweather like Mayweather needs Pacquiao. Pacquiao is exciting to watch and Mayweather isn’t. The Mosley fight is case in point. In my opinion, De La Hoya picks Mayweather because Pacquiao is with Top Rank and Pacquiao kicked his ass ten times more than Mayweather and he would rather see Pacquiao get his.

[TheMACHINE]

Props to Floyd fighting his most dangerous competition ever...a 38 year old shane mosely. He fights one and all of a sudden he is GOAT...hahahahha.

And only idiots would compare Manny fighting Marquez and Floyd fighting Marquez. Manny fought Marquez both times at 130 while Floyd made Marquez move up to 147.

For 50 years, boxing never needed olympic style drug testing...all of a sudden, Floyd wants it? Yah cuz he's a scared ass bitch.

[InRareForm]

Sergio Martinez would beat Mayweather, he wouldn't want any of that.

[dbreiden83080]

Props to Floyd fighting his most dangerous competition ever...a 38 year old shane mosely. He fights one and all of a sudden he is GOAT...hahahahha.

And only idiots would compare Manny fighting Marquez and Floyd fighting Marquez. Manny fought Marquez both times at 130 while Floyd made Marquez move up to 147.

You keep saying this as if Floyd is some big fighter.. The man started out as a Featherweight. Only fought at WW in the last few years. No version of JMM has any chance at all against Floyd. 130, 140, 200 pds, he is getting his ass kicked regardless..



For 50 years, boxing never needed olympic style drug testing...all of a sudden, Floyd wants it? Yah cuz he's a scared ass bitch.

Never needed it.. Uh i beg to difer. The very man that Floyd just spanked was caught red handed admitting to taking steroids for some of his career. The 2nd controversial fight with Oscar, he was roided up like a Mofo for that fight. Yes boxing needs this type of testing. If Manny position is, he'd rather walk away from a 40 mil payday than take blood tests randomlly as the Olympic rules state, than that tells me he is hiding something.. All that crap about he'll take it 2 weeks before and then right after, what the hell is the difference?? IT does not make you weak. That is a lame ass excuse. Shane was roiding and he agreed to do this, so Manny should to, if he wants that payday.. If you watched the 24/7 shows the guys running the tests were all saying "This needs to be done across sports, because it is just so easy to beat these tests"

[TheMACHINE]

You keep saying this as if Floyd is some big fighter.. The man started out as a Featherweight. Only fought at WW in the last few years. No version of JMM has any chance at all against Floyd. 130, 140, 200 pds, he is getting his ass kicked regardless..



Never needed it.. Uh i beg to difer. The very man that Floyd just spanked was caught red handed admitting to taking steroids for some of his career. The 2nd controversial fight with Oscar, he was roided up like a Mofo for that fight. Yes boxing needs this type of testing. If Manny position is, he'd rather walk away from a 40 mil payday than take blood tests randomlly as the Olympic rules state, than that tells me he is hiding something.. All that crap about he'll take it 2 weeks before and then right after, what the hell is the difference?? IT does not make you weak. That is a lame ass excuse. Shane was roiding and he agreed to do this, so Manny should to, if he wants that payday.. If you watched the 24/7 shows the guys running the tests were all saying "This needs to be done across sports, because it is just so easy to beat these tests"

As for Marquez/Maweather, we'll never know if he coulda have hung with mayweather. Not only did Floyd make Marquez move up two weight classes, but he himself came over contract weight. haha. You say that Floyd only fought welter weight for the last few years, then why ask a lightweight to move up to feather weight? How may years has Marquez fought in welterweight or even light welterweight?! ANSWER: ZERO. Why not fight Berto or some one else already in the welterwight division?


As for Mosely, yes he should take the blood test. Mosely wants this fight cuz its his payday. He needs to take the test to get this fight cuz he is already guilty of previous drug charges. That makes sense.

[rjv]

well floyd may be one of the best "boxers" ever but he would not rank anywhere in the top 50 of the best "fighters". the object is to win the match, however, so he has done what he has had to do. and he has been stellar in that regard.

[Kermit]

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=ApKcI77kDhemvVwKjLwTMEI5nYcB?slug=dw-pacman050410

Great article on why Manny is so full of shit. Take the test dooode.

[resistanze]

Damn, I came into this thread to post that article. He's needs to man up and take the test or STFU about Mayweather and move on.

[dbreiden83080]

Manny is juicing

It's pretty obvious...

Every elite athlete accused of steroids in this era has basically been found guilty. Now we have Manny supposed boxing p4p king, saying he won't take certain drug tests and we are supposed to believe him about being clean..

I sure don't..

[TheMACHINE]

lol...asking a guy who has taken every challenge and whooped his opponent to man up... While Mayweather's toughest competitor was a 38 year old Mosely.

I dont know why you guys just say "man up" to Mayweather and just take the fight without adding more to the rules that has already been established.

[TheMACHINE]

Manny is juicing

It's pretty obvious...

Every elite athlete accused of steroids in this era has basically been found guilty. Now we have Manny supposed boxing p4p king, saying he won't take certain drug tests and we are supposed to believe him about being clean..

I sure don't..

the nevada commission should just make in mandatory then.

[dbreiden83080]

the nevada commission should just make in mandatory then.

Do you believe Manny is clean even though he is refusing to take tests to clear his name taking into account everything else i just said about athletes in this era??

[TheMACHINE]

Do you believe Manny is clean even though he is refusing to take tests to clear his name taking into account everything else i just said about athletes in this era??

i believe Manny doesn't have to give the upper hand to Mayweather. I believed it then, and I believe it now. I dont flip flop on my stance.

Do you think Manny was taking roids when he whooped on Lebwada and Barrera early in his career? When do you think he started using HGH? When he whooped on De La Hoya, was he on roids or was DLH just old?


Also..clear his name?! Who accused him of roids without proof? Mayweather Sr?! lol

[resistanze]

lol...asking a guy who has taken every challenge and whooped his opponent to man up... While Mayweather's toughest competitor was a 38 year old Mosely.
A 38 year old Mosley that was a top 10 p4p fighter up until the PBF fight, and is still considered a top 5 WW. Joshua "punching bag" Clottey wasn't a worldbeater.


I dont know why you guys just say "man up" to Mayweather and just take the fight without adding more to the rules that has already been established.
Because Mayweather is supposed to be the ducker and coward. Right? So why doesn't Manny show PBF how much more of a warrior he is? If he accepts, PBF has no excuse, and if he beats PBF, his legacy is basically complete. But Mother Mary will weaken him if he takes a blood test? GMAFB.

PBF might be a prick, but Pac-Man isn't doing himself any favors. Avoiding the Fight of the New Century because of the *timing* of the blood test (not the test itself, which he agreed to in the past) is crap.

[TheMACHINE]

A 38 year old Mosley that was a top 10 p4p fighter up until the PBF fight, and is still considered a top 5 WW. Joshua "punching bag" Clottey wasn't a worldbeater.


Because Mayweather is supposed to be the ducker and coward. Right? So why doesn't Manny show PBF how much more of a warrior he is? If he accepts, PBF has no excuse, and if he beats PBF, his legacy is basically complete. But Mother Mary will weaken him if he takes a blood test? GMAFB.

PBF might be a prick, but Pac-Man isn't doing himself any favors. Avoiding the Fight of the New Century because of the *timing* of the blood test (not the test itself, which he agreed to in the past) is crap.

hahha funny how PBF didnt want any part of Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Mosely, Berto. Top welterweights.....but he redeemed himself with a 38 yr old mosely who hasnt fought in 15 months. hahaha. Yet you guys call out a guy who took every challenge in his career. Mayweather retires to avoid all of them and comes back and tells Marquez to move up 2 weight classes. haha. All this and now pacquaio is the ducker. haha

Pacquiao can fight right now against mayweather, but WHO is setting up a road block for the fight? MAYWEATHER IS. Pacquaio isnt the one demanding stuff. No road block, then the fight is on.

Put it this way. Here is two scenarios how this can play off.

1)Sign Contract. Fight.

2) Ask for a bood test not required by the commision. Wait for Pacquiao to agree to a test. Sign Contract. Fight.

Which scenario is faster and who is preventing the fight from happening?

[resistanze]

hahha funny how PBF didnt want any part of Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Mosely, Berto. Top welterweights.....but he redeemed himself with a 38 yr old mosely who hasnt fought in 15 months. hahaha. Yet you guys call out a guy who took every challenge in his career. Mayweather retires to avoid all of them and comes back and tells Marquez to move up 2 weight classes. haha. All this and now pacquaio is the ducker. haha

Pacquiao can fight right now against mayweather, but WHO is setting up a road block for the fight? MAYWEATHER IS. Pacquaio isnt the one demanding stuff. No road block, then the fight is on.

Put it this way. Here is two scenarios how this can play off.

1)Sign Contract. Fight.

2) Ask for a bood test not required by the commision. Wait for Pacquiao to agree to a test. Sign Contract. Fight.

Which scenario is faster and who is preventing the fight from happening?

Pacquiao agreed to the test MONTHS ago. He wanted the two week cutoff, so he backed out of the deal. Now he's playing the "it's not a necessary test" angle.

The faster scenario was if Pac-Man accepted initally. He could've beat PBF back in March and been the undisputed king of boxing. So you can't act like the blood test is going to take an eternity. Won't the results be released after the fight anyways? How would it take more time?

Mosley agreed, took the test, and already fought PBF. I don't think Pacquiao is a coward at all, and I'm not going to accuse him of juicing. But he needs to do man up and do the same. Especially if he's gonna keep running his mouth about how he can beat PBF. He's not being asked to turn water into wine or to kill his dog.

[dbreiden83080]

i believe Manny doesn't have to give the upper hand to Mayweather.

By seeing to it the fight is on a level playing field???

This is about who is the best. If Manny is the best what is the problem? Floyd is taking all these tests and yes if you watched 24/7 they are very intrusive. They showed up to Shane's house as he was about to get in the car and head to Vegas, demanding urine and blood But Floyd is doing it and we know 100% he is clean.. You can hate Floyd all you want but you can't hate on this policy. He is saying "I am going to whip your ass no excuses"



Do you think Manny was taking roids when he whooped on Lebwada and Barrera early in his career?

How would i know if he was or wasn't??



When do you think he started using HGH?

Nobody knows that's the point..


When he whooped on De La Hoya, was he on roids or was DLH just old?

Oscar was drained by weight and old but again we don't know if Manny was clean..



Also..clear his name?! Who accused him of roids without proof? Mayweather Sr?! lol

It's not fair but it is a fact in this era of sports you are indeed guilty until proven innocent when it comes to roids and HGH. All these iconic baseball players that people defended one after the other went down as guilty. 100% all of them. So like i said before no we cannot take Manny by his word, nobod's word is good enough in this day and age. Manny needs to just take the tests, collect his monster payday and try to beat the best fighter in the world..

[TheMACHINE]

By seeing to it the fight is on a level playing field???

This is about who is the best. If Manny is the best what is the problem? Floyd is taking all these tests and yes if you watched 24/7 they are very intrusive. They showed up to Shane's house as he was about to get in the car and head to Vegas, demanding urine and blood But Floyd is doing it and we know 100% he is clean.. You can hate Floyd all you want but you can't hate on this policy. He is saying "I am going to whip your ass no excuses"



How would i know if he was or wasn't??



Nobody knows that's the point..


Oscar was drained by weight and old but again we don't know if Manny was clean..



It's not fair but it is a fact in this era of sports you are indeed guilty until proven innocent when it comes to roids and HGH. All these iconic baseball players that people defended one after the other went down as guilty. 100% all of them. So like i said before no we cannot take Manny by his word, nobod's word is good enough in this day and age. Manny needs to just take the tests, collect his monster payday and try to beat the best fighter in the world..

i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part. haha

He's the best cuz he beat Shane Mosely. :lmao

Im assuming everyone is on HGH from now on. Lebron, Kobe, Tiger Woods. They all take roids. Even Mayweather before the Mosely fight...he was roiding too.

[dbreiden83080]

i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part. haha

He's the best cuz he beat Shane Mosely. :lmao

Im assuming everyone is on HGH from now on. Lebron, Kobe, Tiger Woods. They all take roids. Even Mayweather before the Mosely fight...he was roiding too.

The last line was least important part of my post. I see you really have no response to the rest..

Yes all athletes are guilty until proven innocent in this era. Facts are facts when it comes to one cheater after another denying it and getting exposed..

Once upon a time we all defended people like him...

http://barbequethministry.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mark-mcgwire-hitting-coach-thumb-300x300-127721.jpg

[TheMACHINE]

The last line was least important part of my post. I see you really have no response to the rest..

Yes all athletes are guilty until proven innocent in this era. Facts are facts when it comes to one cheater after another denying it and getting exposed..

Once upon a time we all defended people like him...

http://barbequethministry.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mark-mcgwire-hitting-coach-thumb-300x300-127721.jpg

What part of "i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part." you dont get.

Im all for Manny taking the test. I just hate when people say Mayweather is the best. :rolleyes

[Ashy Larry]

As for Marquez/Maweather, we'll never know if he coulda have hung with mayweather. Not only did Floyd make Marquez move up two weight classes, but he himself came over contract weight. haha. You say that Floyd only fought welter weight for the last few years, then why ask a lightweight to move up to feather weight? How may years has Marquez fought in welterweight or even light welterweight?! ANSWER: ZERO. Why not fight Berto or some one else already in the welterwight division?


I can see this statement. Floyd moved up to 147 in late 2005. Judah was a decent test but really no match because he's just a headcase and Baldomir was nothing more than a walking heavy bag.

Goes up to 54 to fight Oscar. Nothing more than a pay day fight. I'd do the same. Then fights 140 Hatton and 135 Marquez. It literally took an earthquake and people dying for Floyd to fight a top 147er and Shane was considered the best 147er after working Margarito in many boxing experts eyes.

I can see why he wouldn't fight Cotto or Margarito or any Bob Arum fighters. I can also see why many people would say he's ducked a few fighters.

[TheNextGen]

I agree. I don't see how Mayweather can be the best when imho, he hasn't fought anyone in thier prime or weightclass that was even a risk.

[dbreiden83080]

What part of "i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part." you dont get.

Im all for Manny taking the test. I just hate when people say Mayweather is the best. :rolleyes

At the end of the day we are both big fans of the sport and just wanna see the fight happen. I was with ya in the thread when this shitty thing fell apart months ago and it sucked. Mosley and Mayweather was a decent replacement but whatever it takes to get this on

Lets do it already..

[dbreiden83080]

Get out of here with that shit. Floyd started out as a 122 pounder. When Chico was knocking everybody out, Floyd destroyed him. Castillio was suppose to be the next Chavez, Floyd beat him twice, although they could have given the first fight to Castillio. Next Gatti was suppose to be a real test, and I don't even think he landed a punch. He didnt duck Margartio or Cotto, they simply had management issues, so he fought Zab, and whooped him too. Oscar was outclassed, Hatton was knocked out, and Shane and Marquez were made to look like amateurs. If you look at all the guys on that list, they were all top 10 fighters. Floyd is hands down the best, and Manny will get that ass whooped too.

i am finding it funny how after Margarito beat down Cotto everyone called Floyd a pussy for not fighting him then Mosley kills Margarito like he is nothing and Floyd dessimates Shane like he is nothing but "no no no no"

say the Floyd Haters.. "Shane was all washed up".. Hardly, Floyd just made him look that way.. Sometimes you gotta suck it up and admit someone is that good..

[Kermit]

New York Post update:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/boxing/nothing_in_works_for_mayweather_Fx3sB5ikKT6PJAVU2Y CX4N

Sounds like this fight (if it is going to happen), might go down next year. Would that put Manny and Money in a warm up fight with some stiffs? I just hope that these two guys realize how much their sport needs this fight. Get it done fellas.

[TheMACHINE]

Get out of here with that shit. Floyd started out as a 122 pounder. When Chico was knocking everybody out, Floyd destroyed him. Castillio was suppose to be the next Chavez, Floyd beat him twice, although they could have given the first fight to Castillio. Next Gatti was suppose to be a real test, and I don't even think he landed a punch. He didnt duck Margartio or Cotto, they simply had management issues, so he fought Zab, and whooped him too. Oscar was outclassed, Hatton was knocked out, and Shane and Marquez were made to look like amateurs. If you look at all the guys on that list, they were all top 10 fighters. Floyd is hands down the best, and Manny will get that ass whooped too.

ok so PBF was the best 3 years ago. I agree with you on that. But "what have you done for me lately. Fine ...a 38 year old Mosely who took 15 months off. Grats.

[TheMACHINE]

i am finding it funny how after Margarito beat down Cotto everyone called Floyd a pussy for not fighting him then Mosley kills Margarito like he is nothing and Floyd dessimates Shane like he is nothing but "no no no no"

say the Floyd Haters.. "Shane was all washed up".. Hardly, Floyd just made him look that way.. Sometimes you gotta suck it up and admit someone is that good..

and Cotto whopped on Mosely and Manny whooped on Cotto. We can all play that game.

At the end of the day, its about WHO YOU FIGHT. And any boxing expert can tell you that Manny's Resume > Floyds Resume.

[dbreiden83080]

and Cotto whopped on Mosely and Manny whooped on Cotto. We can all play that game.

At the end of the day, its about WHO YOU FIGHT. And any boxing expert can tell you that Manny's Resume > Floyds Resume.

Cotto did not whip on Mosley. He eaked out a tight decision. Floyd dessimated Shane. And i am not sitting here saying that Manny is not a great fighter..

[milkyway21]

Bob Arum is secretly negotiating a Pacquiao vs Marquez III fight? I don't know if I am excited or not...

[TheMACHINE]

Bob Arum is secretly negotiating a Pacquiao vs Marquez III fight? I don't know if I am excited or not...

fck that...that fight would only be good if it goes down to 130. Marquez cant handle 147.

From what i heard, Pacquiao agreed to a 14 day blood test cut off (which is what Mayweather was atleast asking for the last negotiations).

[dbreiden83080]

Bob Arum is secretly negotiating a Pacquiao vs Marquez III fight? I don't know if I am excited or not...

Who fuckin cares about that at this point?