2010 Free Agent: Josh Howard

[Bruno]

http://www.nba.com/media/act_josh_howard.jpg
Born: Apr 28, 1980
Height: 6-7 / 2.01
Weight: 210 lbs. / 95.3 kg.
College: Wake Forest
Years Pro: 6

Info (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/josh_howard/career_stats.html)

[FeZZy]

Mle?

[exstatic]

He's 30, or will be in a week or two. Let's move on and look for a wing with our draft pick.

[benefactor]

Mle?
lol?

[Blackjack]

Mle?

How 'bout some Obama posters and a good sized bag of weed?

[Bruno]

Howard has had a lot of injuries and personal troubles lately. He will likely miss the start of next season because of an ACL surgery.

The consequence is that he will be quite cheap. Howard with a 1 year LLE contract ($2M) would be very tempting gamble.

[coyotes_geek]

Even coming off acl surgery, a 30 year old Josh Howard will still be able to get more than the BAE.

[Bruno]

Well, he had his surgery in March so he could miss a big part of next season.

I guess Howard will sign a short term contract to show he is back at 100% and get a big long term contract. Maybe you're right and he will get more than the LLE. In that case, Spurs should pass.

[Darkwaters]

If Howard could be had for the LLE I don't see how you'd turn that down.

[coyotes_geek]

JMO, but I think Howard ends up staying with the Wizards. They'll decline the team option but won't renounce rights to him unless they find some big name FA to take their money. Since no one wants to go to washington, they'll end up using Howard's surgery as leverage to get him to re-sign a multi year deal in the MLE range. At least that's how I see it playing out.

[Ditty]

i like howard still think we should of drafted him back in 2003

but he is a ballhog and selfish player but a decent defender and a streaky shooter i would take him with the LLE(dont think he will take it) and if jefferson ends up taking off also

[mountainballer]

JMO, but I think Howard ends up staying with the Wizards. They'll decline the team option but won't renounce rights to him unless they find some big name FA to take their money. Since no one wants to go to washington, they'll end up using Howard's surgery as leverage to get him to re-sign a multi year deal in the MLE range. At least that's how I see it playing out.

not sure about that. depends on the long term strategy of the new owners.
if they want to re start seriously, they will also look to get rid of most of the bad apples and Howard didn't exactly qualify as a high character veteran leader in the past years. (they might rather decide to overpay Miller to keep him for that role)
Wizards also have Young and Thornton as future wings and they have a small chance to end up with the #2 pick this draft, that will very likely turn into Evan Turner.
IMO, if they are smart, they don't re sign him and follow the Blazers/Thunder path of re building for the next 2 years.

[FeZZy]

Mle?
nevermind :lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

If Howard could be had for the LLE I don't see how you'd turn that down.

:tu
He may be detrimental to the team, but if he can somewhat resemble what he used to be, and at a low price, it would be a good signing.

[Danny.Zhu]

Well, he had his surgery in March so he could miss a big part of next season.

I guess Howard will sign a short term contract to show he is back at 100% and get a big long term contract. Maybe you're right and he will get more than the LLE. In that case, Spurs should pass.

Agreed.

[J_Paco]

With Jefferson opting out of his contract, now Josh Howard has become a realistic option again. He'll likely miss the start of the season, but I don't see why the Spurs shouldn't at least attempt to pursue him. He's more talented than any of their other options (Brewer, Barnes, Jones, etc.) and could produce similar statistics to Jefferson.

What do you guys think? Should they now pursue Howard with Jefferson likely departing?

[coyotes_geek]

Howard's still out of the picture. The Spurs are still going to be limited to offering the BAE or whatever MLE leftovers there are after Splitter. Neither of which are going to be close to what kind of offers Howard will receive. The only possibility would be for the Spurs to S&T RJ to Washington for Howard, but that depends on 1) Howard wanting us 2) Jefferson wanting Washington and 3) Washington wanting RJ. No way all three of those things line up.

[Marcus Bryant]

What better way for him to resurrect his career than to join the Spurs for a season?

[ChumpDumper]

Howard's still out of the picture. The Spurs are still going to be limited to offering the BAE or whatever MLE leftovers there are after Splitter. Neither of which are going to be close to what kind of offers Howard will receive. The only possibility would be for the Spurs to S&T RJ to Washington for Howard, but that depends on 1) Howard wanting us 2) Jefferson wanting Washington and 3) Washington wanting RJ. No way all three of those things line up.If Howard's going cheap, maybe substitute Mason for Jefferson in that equation.

[Ditty]

Howard is a sensitive issue with the Spurs. Tim really wanted Pop to draft him in 2003. The whole Wake connection. Pop is such a good coach that I think Josh would have reached his potential and not had as many off court issues. The great thing about Pop is that he doesn't coach players in just basketball, he coaches them in life. Pop always asks his players to expand their minds and learn. Howard was just expected to be a basketball player and then do what he wanted when he wanted when he wasn't playing.

I thought Pop and Tim wanted to draft him and RC went against there word from where i read from some website but yah I would of loved josh howard here espically him never going to the mavs im pretty sure we would of won another one with howard here espically that one in 06 he made a difference in that game 7 vs the spurs

[EricB]

Yeah Tim and Pop wanted Howard but RC voted em down and wanted to save the capspace for Jason Kidd....

[Ditty]

i wish the spurs signed this guy for LLE would be perfect, but I guess they were concerns from teams because of ACL. I would of loved josh howard this offseason for the MLE, if we already had Splitter and he never got injured.

[Spurs Brazil]

Celtics eye Howard?

The Boston Celtics and Chicago Bulls have shown “serious interest” in free-agent forward Josh Howard, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.

While the Bulls could have the salary-cap space to sign Howard, depending on what happens with their offer sheet to J.J. Redick, the Celtics would need a sign-and-trade to arrange a deal because they have already used their midlevel exception on Jermaine O’Neal.

Howard has yet to receive a contract offer. The Washington Wizards also have some interest in re-signing Howard.

– Marc J. Spears, 1:30 a.m. ET, July 12

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AimqY4K3PgokdKbw7rDqzKW8vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz071110

[DesignatedT]

Celtics eye Howard?

The Boston Celtics and Chicago Bulls have shown “serious interest” in free-agent forward Josh Howard, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.

While the Bulls could have the salary-cap space to sign Howard, depending on what happens with their offer sheet to J.J. Redick, the Celtics would need a sign-and-trade to arrange a deal because they have already used their midlevel exception on Jermaine O’Neal.

Howard has yet to receive a contract offer. The Washington Wizards also have some interest in re-signing Howard.

– Marc J. Spears, 1:30 a.m. ET, July 12

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AimqY4K3PgokdKbw7rDqzKW8vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz071110

So are they assuming that he wont take the LLE? or has boston used that as well.

[Marcus Bryant]

If the Spurs could work out a reasonable deal with Jefferson, then I could see a gamble on Josh Howard (especially if the rumored Splitter contract #s are true).

[Blackjack]

Ya want to stick it to Cuban, Josh?

Come sign with the Spurs. :smokin (figured you'd appreciate that particular emoticon ;))

[ElNono]

Wasn't he injured? Is he still interested in playing basketball?
He looked out of it last time I recall seeing the guy.

[Blackjack]

Wasn't he injured? Is he still interested in playing basketball?
He looked out of it last time I recall seeing the guy.

He was injured all of last year with the ankle and then tore his knee up with Washington.

But the disinterest could've just been him playing stoned. No biggie. :downspin:

[FeZZy]

lol?


How 'bout some Obama posters and a good sized bag of weed?

What now, bitches haha

[Blackjack]

What now, bitches haha

About $2.3M, some Obama posters and a good sized bag of weed?

[FeZZy]

About $2.3M, some Obama posters and a good sized bag of weed?

Exactly! I was just kidding man hopefully we do sign him, what do you think?

[Blackjack]

Great get if he'll play for what the Spurs can pay him. He'd be my first choice of what's left, although the injury thing shouldn't be taken lightly.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if those other teams are just offering the same amount in our ballpark, i see nothing wrong puttin our offer on the table and see if he bites

[tdunk21]

josh, sign with us if u enjoy kicking some mavs ass in the playoffs.....

[ohmwrecker]

I think, talent-wise, he is probably best available. He is just too high risk though. I don't see the Spurs taking that gamble. Injured and stupid are two pretty big red flags.

I'm on the Ronnie Brewer train right now.

[tdunk21]

I think, talent-wise, he is probably best available. He is just too high risk though. I don't see the Spurs taking that gamble. Injured and stupid are two pretty big red flags.

I'm on the Ronnie Brewer train right now.

do u think we can get brewer for whats left of the mle??

[Marcus Bryant]

Howard would be a decent gamble if the Spurs re-up Jefferson. If he doesn't work out, they can cut their losses and they'd still have a small forward on the team. If he did work out, then the Spurs would have a solid bench.

[ohmwrecker]

do u think we can get brewer for whats left of the mle??

He's a legacy, man! Honestly, I don't know, but whoever the Spurs DO get is going to have to want to play here more than they want a paycheck.

[Spurs Brazil]

Knicks Meeting With Josh Howard

Jul 14, 2010 1:33 PM EST
The Knicks are meeting with Josh Howard on Wednesday.

Howard is also considering remaining with the Wizards, but has also received interest from the Bulls and Celtics



Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68147/20100714/knicks_meeting_with_josh_howard/#ixzz0tggHzyAc

[ducks]

knicks big contract watch

[FeZZy]

So now that butler is gone should we switch our attention to Howard?

[ChumpDumper]

So now that butler is gone should we switch our attention to Howard?"We" meaning posters who think the Spurs are actually pursuing all these players?

Sure.

[FeZZy]

"We" meaning posters who think the Spurs are actually pursuing all these players?

Sure.

Good plan. :lol

[ace3g]

SpearsNBAYahoo

Wiz agree in principle to sign Josh Howard to a 1year deal paying close to $4 mill w/bonuses, his consultant Derek Lafayette tells Y! Sports

[ace3g]

lol, sorry

like I said in the top 30 SF thread, the Spurs are running out of available SF FA. Unless they have some mystery player overseas that no one knows about

[elemento]

so we can forget about Josh Howard as well

[8FOR!3]

lol, sorry

like I said in the top 30 SF thread, the Spurs are running out of available SF FA. Unless they have some mystery player overseas that no one knows about

Okay, so I wasn't going to tell you guys this, but we're about to sign Eduardo Mingas of the Angola national basketball team. :lol:toast

[DesignatedT]

Saw that coming.

[mountainballer]

wow, obviously there wasn't a big market for Howard.
only 1 year and 4 million.
I can see why the Wizards didn't want to give him more years, they will have to find out what direction this team is heading in the next season. but really, there was no team to give him something like MLE for 3 years? I guess this means he is not healthy again and/or in pretty bad shape. and as much as a somehow healthy JH would have helped, a broken down version doesn't help us at all.

[mountainballer]

in case none noticed:
JH made his comeback last saturday and did look decent in 22 minutes of play, scoring 13 points on 5-9. (in fact, for someone who has been out for 10 months, he looked pretty good)
this is the one thing.
the other fact is, that Lewis just arrived and should take some (most?) of the SF minutes, especially considering Blatche has become the #1 option at PF and will eat most minutes there.

so Howard is healthy and might be available. are we interested?

[lefty]

Nope

[Darkwaters]

At 4M for a one year rental? No.

[Bruno]

I rather give the minutes available behind RJ to Anderson. He has shown a lot of promises before breaking his foot.