We're 1-14 from 3....without ginobili..without duncan..and only down 11

[jestersmash]

Can somebody say hello to second round of playoffs?

[jestersmash]

make that 1-15

[spizzle_tronk]

does not compute

[rayray2k8]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151085

[honestfool84]

yes, let's say hello to the second round... and let's not think about the first round at all.

playoffs are an entirely different ball game.

[FalleNxWiZarDx]

you should give credit to our bench players instead

[jestersmash]

I do, i'm impressed with what some of them have been doing.

even better us, this game builds their confidence

[jestersmash]

Oh, and the centerpiece is 0-3 from 3. we all know what that means, he'll go 3-5 or 4-7 3 or 4 games later.

This game serves to get one of his inevitable 0-234987 games out of his system.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Silly logic.

Mavs are in complete control, scoring as needed to keep their lead cushion.

[Ghazi]

Dirk isn't even trying.

[DPG21920]

Mavs are raining 3's and laughing.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Two completely different messages sent from Pop and Carlisle.

Pop: We don't care, we'll see you this weekend.

Carlisle: We don't care, will still beat you tonight, and have supreme confidence against you until you prove you can beat us

[Johnny RIngo]

Oh, and the centerpiece is 0-3 from 3. we all know what that means, he'll go 3-5 or 4-7 3 or 4 games later.

This game serves to get one of his inevitable 0-234987 games out of his system.

:lol

[braeden0613]

I'm not all that sure if the Mavs are trying either..

[jestersmash]

it took the mavettes a good 1-2 quarters to catch on that the spurs don't give a shit. i was surprised they were actually trying early on.

[jestersmash]

the mavs aren't trying right now, obviously. when dirk takes a weird ass hook shot like that, it's obvious he's not trying.

he was trying earlier on though, like 1st quarter/maybe a bit into the second.

the main tell that he's not trying is the fact that he has no free throws, but he's not trying to get them.

[nkdlunch]

Bingo. Mavs are laughing. Hill looks hurt. and I dont' see any ground gained by Pop.

fucking waste of a night :pctoss

[jestersmash]

lol @ putting nosewitzki back in the ball game. i can't tell if he's trying or not.

[sribb43]

same ol' Mavs blowing leads to inferior competition in the 4th quarters at home

[nkdlunch]

Dirk isn't even trying.

LMAO Dirk coming back in :lmao

[Ghazi]

same ol' Mavs blowing leads to inferior competition in the 4th quarters at home

cool story bro.

[Ghazi]

LMAO Dirk coming back in :lmao

He hasn't tried all game. Not one drive to the basket. There is no intensity for the Mavs. and Barea is playing in the late stages of a 4th quarter tight game.

[nkdlunch]

He hasn't tried all game. Not one drive to the basket. There is no intensity for the Mavs. and Barea is playing in the late stages of a 4th quarter tight game.

then why did he come back dumbass??? :lol

[jestersmash]

talk about psychological blow to the mavs. if you really wanted to send a statement that you guys "weren't trying at all" you would've benched nowitzki period

[sefant77]

Mavs played with zero intense...

Lets forget this game. Spurs didnt play their stars and Mavs played flat and crappy. Wont happen again from both sides.

[EricB]

He hasn't tried all game. Not one drive to the basket. There is no intensity for the Mavs. and Barea is playing in the late stages of a 4th quarter tight game.

Since when did Dirk start drivingto the basket?

[sefant77]

Since when did Dirk start drivingto the basket?

Since 2006

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0605/nba_a_nowitzki_430.jpg

[rjv]

2006 ? is that the year dirk started beating up on stationary bikes ? or is that the year that the heat won the title ?

[sefant77]

Heat?

Dont know what u are talking about, Heat never won the title since 88 :huh

[DubMcDub]

Possibly the worst thread on this message board this season.

[DubMcDub]

then why did he come back dumbass??? :lol

Because usually, when the coach says "Hey player, you're going in," the player goes in?

How does going back into the game when Carlisle says relate at all to whether the guy was giving much effort?

[Wildcat67]

You Mavs fans are idiots.

Two words: Home court

The Mavs have it to play for and could of ended up as the #4 seed. Of course they were trying. You don't play your starters the whole game if you really don't care.

Spurs just played none of their best players, missed wide open threes all night, and STILL were within 6 pts with 1:30 to go. And it would of been worse if our backups were even trying. See Blair just screwing around at the end of the game even though they were close.

We didn't want to win. We want to guarantee we play you pussies cause you can't even dominate our backups like a good team should.

[DubMcDub]

You Mavs fans are idiots.

Two words: Home court

The Mavs have it to play for and could of ended up as the #4 seed. Of course they were trying. You don't play your starters the whole game if you really don't care.

Spurs just played none of their best players, missed wide open threes all night, and STILL were within 6 pts with 1:30 to go. And it would of been worse if our backups were even trying. See Blair just screwing around at the end of the game even though they were close.

We didn't want to win. We want to guarantee we play you pussies cause you can't even dominate our backups like a good team should.

Cool story, Hansel.

[sefant77]

You Mavs fans are idiots.

Two words: Home court

The Mavs have it to play for and could of ended up as the #4 seed. Of course they were trying. You don't play your starters the whole game if you really don't care.

Spurs just played none of their best players, missed wide open threes all night, and STILL were within 6 pts with 1:30 to go. And it would of been worse if our backups were even trying. See Blair just screwing around at the end of the game even though they were close.

We didn't want to win. We want to guarantee we play you pussies cause you can't even dominate our backups like a good team should.

lol thats what i told in the gamethread like 3 times after some other guys cried why the Mavs still play their starters.

But starters or not, you saw that the Mavs didnt play with any intensity. They just did enough to keep the +10, they didnt play hard or intense...

So lets finally forget this game, its useless for analysis.

[TJastal]

You Mavs fans are idiots.

Two words: Home court

The Mavs have it to play for and could of ended up as the #4 seed. Of course they were trying. You don't play your starters the whole game if you really don't care.

Spurs just played none of their best players, missed wide open threes all night, and STILL were within 6 pts with 1:30 to go. And it would of been worse if our backups were even trying. See Blair just screwing around at the end of the game even though they were close.

We didn't want to win. We want to guarantee we play you pussies cause you can't even dominate our backups like a good team should.

You can also make the argument that the mavs' starters weren't trying as hard as they could to win the game either. Half of an effort and still won by a comfortable margin. Watching and laughing as Pop screams at Keith Bogans making a fool out of himself.

This game shows IMO that Pop was afraid his best wasn't going to be good enough to win the game, thus playing all the odd-ball lineups.

Mavs head into the playoffs confident and chemistry fine tuned, while the spurs will head in with nobody sure what their roles are and with a unpredictable imbecile of a coach.

[wut]

the man has a point, say if this situation were reversed, the game is in San Antonio with Spurs starters in most of the game, Dirk and Kidd are out of the game anything less than a dominating performance would be disappointing.

In fairness I'd be in denial too if my team barely won a game against a team without two of their stars on your own court. :lol

[Shank]

Why would anyone take anything from either team's performance tonight? Neither are relevant.

[DubMcDub]

the man has a point, say if this situation were reversed, the game is in San Antonio with Spurs starters in most of the game, Dirk and Kidd are out of the game anything less than a dominating performance would be disappointing.

In fairness I'd be in denial too if my team barely won a game against a team without two of their stars on your own court. :lol

Yeah, no, it's actually really not that disappointing at all. Just FYI.

[TJastal]

the man has a point, say if this situation were reversed, the game is in San Antonio with Spurs starters in most of the game, Dirk and Kidd are out of the game anything less than a dominating performance would be disappointing.

In fairness I'd be in denial too if my team barely won a game against a team without two of their stars on your own court. :lol

"Barely" winning a game is winning by 1,2,3 points and missing a shot to win or tie at the end. Mavs had a comfortable double digit lead most of the 4th quarter and relaxed enough for the spurs to cut it to 7 by the end.

[Shank]

Most importantly, the Mavs covered the -6.5. People made bank thanks to this scrub game.

[Wildcat67]

Total denial.

The game plan for the Mavs was to get up by 25 and then rest their starters the second half.

They failed

EPICLY.

You ARE in denial.

We had NOTHING to gain by winning this game and EVERYTHING to lose.

We could of had injuries to Manu and Duncan, the only reason Parker played was because he still needs the minutes to get back in game shape and work on his shot.

But the biggest thing we had to lose was the opportuninty to play you in the first round.

YOu realize how big of an insult that is? We WANT to play you even if it means throwing a game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dumbasses in denial.

[DubMcDub]

Total denial.

The game plan for the Mavs was to get up by 25 and then rest their starters the second half.

They failed

EPICLY.

You ARE in denial.

We had NOTHING to gain by winning this game and EVERYTHING to lose.

We could of had injuries to Manu and Duncan, the only reason Parker played was because he still needs the minutes to get back in game shape and work on his shot.

But the biggest thing we had to lose was the opportuninty to play you in the first round.

YOu realize how big of an insult that is? We WANT to play you even if it means throwing a game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dumbasses in denial.

What a tremendous post.

[TJastal]

What a tremendous post.

:lmao

Quite entertaining, 'twas.

[sefant77]

35 posts, what a waste of using a keyboard

[TJastal]

So lemme see spurfan logic..

Pop using whacko lineups and ruining the chemistry of the team because he needs to find out who is going to step up in the LAST FUCKING GAME OF THE SEASON because you know.. those 81 games beforehand just weren't enough to figure it out. :lmao

Pop was trying to throw the game that's why he was screaming at yelling at players in
4th quarter.. because you know they weren't carrying out his game plan of "throwing the game"


OMG ... ROFLMFAO!!

[wut]

"Barely" winning a game is winning by 1,2,3 points and missing a shot to win or tie at the end. Mavs had a comfortable double digit lead most of the 4th quarter and relaxed enough for the spurs to cut it to 7 by the end.
barely is a subjective term. :lol ...so I stand by my point. :D

[wut]

So lemme see spurfan logic..

Pop using whacko lineups and ruining the chemistry of the team because he needs to find out who is going to step up in the LAST FUCKING GAME OF THE SEASON because you know.. those 81 games beforehand just weren't enough to figure it out. :lmao

Pop was trying to throw the game that's why he was screaming at yelling at players in
4th quarter.. because you know they weren't carrying out his game plan of "throwing the game"


OMG ... ROFLMFAO!!
Look Pop wasn't throwing the game, he made a calculated decision.

If you play your starters full minutes and win, you only have the CHANCE of getting #6 seed. If you play your starters full minutes and lose....you've just wasted any rest you could have given your stars.

Pop knows his best chance of winning any series is a healthy team. PERIOD.

This has nothing to do with wacky lineups, scared of the Mavs, etc.... it's a calculated move that gives him the higher percentage of going further in the playoffs.

I mean think about it, even if the Spurs did win in a blowout....why would Pop want that? Complacency is no way to win a championship.

[jestersmash]

Possibly the worst thread on this message board this season.

u mad bro

[sefant77]

That says all


Dallas beat San Antonio 96-89 Wednesday night in a game Dirk Nowitzki (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3252/;_ylt=AggFAvZ5vkUg7F7fMU5sp9CQvLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3252/news;_ylt=Ao36IUTbS3dbt2PlRCSy_sOQvLYF) said had “a little preseason feel out there.”

[spursfaninla]

You can also make the argument that the mavs' starters weren't trying as hard as they could to win the game either. Half of an effort and still won by a comfortable margin. Watching and laughing as Pop screams at Keith Bogans making a fool out of himself.

This game shows IMO that Pop was afraid his best wasn't going to be good enough to win the game, thus playing all the odd-ball lineups.

Mavs head into the playoffs confident and chemistry fine tuned, while the spurs will head in with nobody sure what their roles are and with a unpredictable imbecile of a coach.

Your take is illogical and weak.

If pop were afraid is best were not good enough to win against dallas, that means he set us up to play dallas, knowing we can't beat them in a 7 game series.

Would it not make better sense, if pop thought that, to go for a low percentage chance to avoid "sure defeat" in the playoffs, at least for 1 series?

Second, we did not lose any chemistry. Once game is not going to do shit, especially when our key guys needed rest. Manu needed rest. The chemistry we built when Ginobilli went Super Manu has a month-long foundation, and is not shattered by taking one night off.

Third, pop clearly had reasons for doing what he did, and his "illogical" choices make perfect sense. Give tony a chance to shoot and get in game shape, give Hill a chance too (although his getting hurt was random bad luck), and Blair got some good run against the dallas bigs. We did not tip our hand in any way, got rest for our best players, and let our bench get a chance to shoot.

Last, your argument that dallas gained "confidence" makes no sense. First, they are already confident against us. Second, how does beating our bench by 7 build confidence? Third, this game was not going to do anything to their confidence unless it was a blowout, which was unlikely. Forth, more likely would be that they would get a free chance to learn about our defense for the game, and try to make adjustments already in game 1 when it counts. Confidence is not an issue here.

next.

[TJastal]

Your take is illogical and weak.

If pop were afraid is best were not good enough to win against dallas, that means he set us up to play dallas, knowing we can't beat them in a 7 game series.

Would it not make better sense, if pop thought that, to go for a low percentage chance to avoid "sure defeat" in the playoffs, at least for 1 series?

Second, we did not lose any chemistry. Once game is not going to do shit, especially when our key guys needed rest. Manu needed rest. The chemistry we built when Ginobilli went Super Manu has a month-long foundation, and is not shattered by taking one night off.

Third, pop clearly had reasons for doing what he did, and his "illogical" choices make perfect sense. Give tony a chance to shoot and get in game shape, give Hill a chance too (although his getting hurt was random bad luck), and Blair got some good run against the dallas bigs.

*sigh*

Parker could have just as well gone to the local Y for a bit of shooting practice and wind sprints if all he needed was shooting reps and game conditioning... Hill could joined him...less chance of random injury as well.. if... like you say, all he needed was reps and endurance.

Lemme say, chemistry is a fragile thing, not something you wanna mess around with late in the year. It's built by playing guys in roles and lineups that they become accustomed to. I'd argue that this game was important for the spurs to fine tune some chemistry esp w/ Parker in a new role and both him and Hill just recently coming back from injuries. You obviously don't think chemistry is an issue. Guess we'll find out Sunday.

[Mr.Robinson]

Since 2006

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0605/nba_a_nowitzki_430.jpg

Ban!
Jk
Ouch. Fucking Manu. What was he thinking? He will be out for revenge mark my words. Manu will get to the rim at will in this series.

[spursfaninla]

*sigh*

Parker could have just as well gone to the local Y for a bit of shooting practice and wind sprints if all he needed was shooting reps and game conditioning... Hill could joined him...less chance of random injury as well.. if... like you say, all he needed was reps and endurance.

Lemme say, chemistry is a fragile thing, not something you wanna mess around with late in the year. It's built by playing guys in roles and lineups that they become accustomed to. I'd argue that this game was important for the spurs to fine tune some chemistry esp w/ Parker in a new role and both him and Hill just recently coming back from injuries. You obviously don't think chemistry is an issue. Guess we'll find out Sunday.

I enjoyed seeing you try to slip by my strongest point. Almost, but not quite. Your theory on Pop's motive for losing tonight, that he knew the team would lose anyway, is nonsense, because as I said above, that would mean he guaranteed we would face the same sure defeat; anyone would do anything to attempt a low percentage win, going all out in that case, to prolong their lives by playing an opponent we have a chance against.

Now, you did say pop was illogical, so that could still explain it. And although you disagree with his decision, to imply there were no good, logical reasons why he held out our best 2 players tonight is also plainly wrong.

Chemistry is your mantra. Well, chemistry can be built up at practice too; why not? Well, chemistry is built over time and when the pressure is on. Actually, getting into game shape and getting your shot back can't really be "gotten" in practice, because you can't get as motivated in practice, you never go 100% like in a real game with adrenaline and so on.

Anyway, one game was not going to do it.

And how do you develop chemistry? By going for the win. How do you go for the win? You use the defense and offense you think is your best shot.

But wait, doesn't that tip our hand before the real match has even begun? You also never addressed that argument. Probably because there is no good answer to that one either.

[lefty]

Remember game 1 of ECSF in 1994, Indiana @ NY ?

Reggie Miller miraculously tied the game, then for some reason, Sam Mitchell fouls John Starks and sends him to the FT line.

I don't what Sammy was thinking, he must have been caught in the heat of the moment, but the Knicks were like: " WTF ???? why did they do that? "

You looked a John Staks's face and his body language, you knew he didn't want to be on the FT line; why? because the Knicks interpreted the situation as : " did they just foul us on purpose, even though it's a tied game, because they know we are going to miss? "

Starks misses both FT's, Miller grabs the rebound, Mason goes Sam Mitchell on Reggie, and Pacers win.


So, this is what the mavs must be thinking: " they tank the game, knowing that they will face us in the 1st round and that we own them in the playoffs? "
See, Mavs must be shitting in their pants now, they know we know we can beat them.




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