Will Bonner make over or under his season AVG on 3's in playoffs?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

No matter how much I start to love this guy's regular season play, this is always on my mind.


I see him come up short in big games more often than coming up big.

And although even I have accepted him as a vital piece of this team (and don't complain about his contract like others) I cannot help but shudder thinking about his 3 point shooting in the playoffs.


So here is the chance to voice your opinion on the most important thing Bonner brings to this team.


Will he shoot over or under his season average for 3 pointers in the playoffs?


Because quite frankly if he's at or over I see us being hard as hell to beat. But if he's under I won't be surprised in any way shape or form.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

too easy

[Mel_13]

The burden of proof is on Bonner.

If he fails to meet that burden, there is absolutely no reason to bring him back.

Frankly, I'll be shocked if he comes up big. He's just not one of those players that thrive in pressure-filled situations.

Hope I'm wrong.

[rayray2k8]

:lmao

[itzsoweezee]

once a choker, always a choker.

the worst part is, popovich doesn't realize this basic fact of life.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

hey you guys posting don't make this one of those poll threads where you voice your opinion in words but fail to vote in the poll

[rayray2k8]

I'm sure Vander and the rest of the Boner lovers (all 4 of them) will post his numbers against scrub teams and garbage time.
But I know one thing.
If it looks like shit, smells like shit. Then goddamnit it's shit!

[vander]

% or volume?

[rayray2k8]

Please show us the poll results soon. :lol

[tp2021]

Where's the option for matching it exactly? Way to go

[Cant_Be_Faded]

% or volume?

my bad

though volume is a far cry

its %

[Doe]

Too bad we couldn't play all good teams in the Celtics arena. He seems to play well there, maybe it's having the whole Bonner clan in the stands.

But yeah, I fully expect him to choke. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong and hopefully Matt does just that.

I'd include Mason in the list of chokers, but at this point most of his problems point to overall suckage.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Where's the option for matching it exactly? Way to go

The probability is so low I ruled it out.

[superjames1992]

He's played meaningful minutes in exactly one playoff series for the Spurs. Who knows? He wasn't good in last year's playoffs, but Robert Horry was God-awful in his first career playoff series and look how that turned out.

[honestfool84]

Please show us the poll results soon. :lol

i voted over.

[itzsoweezee]

He's played meaningful minutes in exactly one playoff series for the Spurs. Who knows? He wasn't good in last year's playoffs, but Robert Horry was God-awful in his first career playoff series and look how that turned out.

lol. robert horry is one of the clutchest players to play. you're comparing bonner, who's consistently failed under pressure to horry? :rollin

[xellos88330]

Bonner is making me choose under after seeing how he played tonight.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

lol. robert horry is one of the clutchest players to play. you're comparing bonner, who's consistently failed under pressure to horry? :rollin

It's easy to compare them in one sense. We signed Bonner specifically to fill the void Horry left.

It's like when people compared Rasho to Robinson.

[vander]

Bonner is making me choose under after seeing how he played tonight.

bad logic, tonight brought his season average down, so it will be easier to surpass it in the playoffs :lol

[superjames1992]

lol. robert horry is one of the clutchest players to play. you're comparing bonner, who's consistently failed under pressure to horry? :rollin

But Horry played badly in his first career playoff series. Horry was great thereafter, of course.

Bonner could turn out to be a very clutch player in the playoffs (although I doubt it).

Anyways, I say UNDER for Bonner because the best in the West probably won't allow him to get off as many open threes as against the pasties of the league. That said, defenders will have to respect his range, which will space the floor and allow more room for Tony, Manu, and Timmy to operate.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I wouldn't base his playoff performance on how he does from behind the arc. He's also getting better at the midrange and the hookshot. I'll go under, but not saying that he'll regress from his regular season play.

[rayray2k8]

Omg there's more than 4 Boner supporters?? I demand for an IP check. :lol

[vander]

Bonner outscored, outrebounded, outeverythinged Manu in the playoffs last year

let's just hope that doesn't happen again this year right? :p:

[rayray2k8]

Bonner outscored, outrebounded, outeverythinged Manu in the playoffs last year

let's just hope that doesn't happen again this year right? :p:

Actually Manu was just as effective as Bonner was in the 4th quarter of Game 5 of last years playoffs..
You know... When the season was on the line? Where was he again? Oh that's right! He was on the bench next to Manu!

Try again. :td

[Russ]

Tough call.

On one hand, Bonner is a certified choker.

On the other hand, Bonner's three point percentage is pretty lousy to begin with. :lol

[vander]

Actually Manu was just as effective as Bonner was in the 4th quarter of Game 5 of last years playoffs..
You know... When the season was on the line? Where was he again? Oh that's right! He was on the bench next to Manu!

Try again. :td

:lol

Bonner rarely plays in crunch time, that's not his strength, and not his role, Manu is the one getting paid the big bucks to play well in 4th quarters.

you should just stop trying :lol

[ohmwrecker]

It's like when people compared Rasho to Robinson.
That may be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Bonner has given me no reason to trust him. He is a one dimensional, unathletic player who is a severe liabilty on D. I've never seen a PF/C with ZERO post game before. I will be happy when he is gone.

[rayray2k8]

:lol

Bonner rarely plays in crunch time, that's not his strength, and not his role, Manu is the one getting paid the big bucks to play well in 4th quarters.

you should just stop trying :lol

I expect Manu to carry this team and you're right Bonner is a piece of shit that chokes under pressure. You're finally come to your senses! :toast

[rayray2k8]

I'm actually having more fun with Mav fan over at the NBA forum. I know what to expect of Bonner and he'll choke big time in the playoffs.
END OF THREAD!!

[superjames1992]

That may be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Bonner has given me no reason to trust him. He is a one dimensional, unathletic player who is a severe liabilty on D. I've never seen a PF/C with ZERO post game before. I will be happy when he is gone.

Really?

And Bonner has developed that nice little hook shot, so I don't think he necessarily has no post game.

[angelbelow]

Same.

[Refocus]

I'm gonna skip on being a debbie downer and say (hope) he goes over.

[superjames1992]

On the other hand, Bonner's three point percentage is pretty lousy to begin with. :lol

Huh? He has the second-highest three-point percentage on the team. No need to completely falsify things to serve your agenda.

[Russ]

Huh? He has the second-highest three-point percentage on the team. No need to completely falsify things to serve your agenda.

Yeah, but he's 44th in the league in 3pt percentage and under 40% (.395).

For a 3pt specialist, that's lousy.

[Borosai]

Over. Way over.

[pku47]

Everybody knows Matt's a rule player with this and that flaws, speaks low of him, but on the other hand, many tend to put him in a critical position. Hope god bless he can guard Dirk decently, not choke with 3.

I won't mind what level he reach in the Playoff, "out of D position, lose all the 3s", so what, can anybody kick him off the rotation?

This poll makes no sense, I think his play will not reach most of STer's expect. But I like this guy, and I don't like the theory that whether we're hard to beat depending on him, it's unfair.

[vander]

Everybody knows Matt's a rule player with this and that flaws, speaks low of him, but on the other hand, many tend to put him in a critical position. Hope god bless he can guard Dirk decently, not choke with 3.

I won't mind what level he reach in the Playoff, "out of D position, lose all the 3s", so what, can anybody kick him off the rotation?

This poll makes no sense, I think his play will not reach most of STer's expect. But I like this guy, and I don't like the theory that whether we're hard to beat depending on him, it's unfair.

perspective

this guy has it

but Bonner is rarely out of position on D, c'mon man

if we lose, you know the Church of Manu is going to try and pin it on Bonner in any way they can :lol

[Warlord23]

'Tis a fair question IMO.

I'm looking at matchups. Against the Mavs, he will match up mostly vs Dirk and Najera, and sometimes vs Haywood. Neither Dirk or Najera are shot-blocking type bigs who like patrolling the paint - they may decide to stay with Bonner, so Matt may not get too many open looks in the first place. Yesterday he was 0-5 from 3.

Also, Bonner has developed this new (and hilarious) move of faking the 3 and driving the ball to just inside the FT line and flipping up a running hook of some sort. Now Dirk has decent lateral movement, and Dampier/Haywood manning the middle are good shot blockers. That doesn't bode well for Matt's adventures inside the 3 point line.

If we somehow overcome Dallas, Phoenix will likely play Amare or Channing Frye or Dudley opposite Bonner. All of those guys are quicker and more athletic than Ginger, which essentially spells trouble for his scoring. I won't bother going into potential matchups vs LA or Cleveland - making the WCF itself is a long shot IMO.

Long story short, Bonner is likely to be in over his head starting this Sunday.

[easy7]

Unless proven otherwise, Bonner is a liability in the playoffs along with Mason.