Spurs in 6

[monosylab1k]

This is my official prediction. I'm not the most beloved, most popular, or most amicable Mavs fan on this board, but there's no doubt I've got the best grasp of this team. My percentage of things I've been right on over the past few years far exceeds that of any other Mavs fan on this board, tbh.

That's why I'm letting it be known right now. Mavs are going down. Spurs got this shit. Wanna know the outcome of each game? Here, Monostradamus will tell you -

Gm 1 - Spurs Win
Gm 2 - Mavs Win
Gm 3 - Spurs Win
Gm 4 - Spurs Win
Gm 5 - Mavs Win
Gm 6 - Spurs Win

I've had my finger on the pulse of these Dallas Mavericks all season, and this is what I've got - a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners. When things are going their way and everybody is having fun, they play great. When they start playing great, they start slacking off. When they play terrible, they slump their shoulders and pout like some fucking 6 year olds.

Granted, the new Mavs have given this team a small level of toughness never seen before in Dallas. But even still, this is a team that, when you punch them in the mouth, they'll back down like KG to anybody over 6 feet tall.

Enjoy the 2nd round, Spurs fans.

[monosylab1k]

Both teams wanted to tank.

This is not a knee-jerk reaction based on tonight's game. I've been saying this for a while. This is a reaction based on how Dallas has approached the entire season.

[jack sommerset]

Mavs in 5. Spews suck. I mean they suck.

[MavDynasty]

lol 18-1*

lol 07 warriors

[rayray2k8]

Wow.. What is up with this guy? :lol
Reverse jinx perhaps?...
If that's the case..
Mavs in 6!! :elephant

[Texas Chili Dog]

Mavs in 8.

[FkLA]

great points made throughout, far and away the most realistic mavs fan on this board...teams with a vagina as their leader simply arent championship caliber.

thanks for the good wishes br0, we will indeed enjoy the 2nd round :flag:

[Findog]

great points made throughout, far and away the most realistic mavs fan on this board...teams with a vagina as their leader simply arent championship caliber.

thanks for the good wishes br0, we will indeed enjoy the 2nd round :flag:

lol FkLA

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[badfish22]

cynical≠realistic

[Amarelooms]

Spurs in 7....Dirk fouls Manu this time to end the game :elephant

[ChrisRichards]

Nah. Mavs in 6.

[Findog]

cynical≠realistic

That's the most cynical, pessimistic, worst-case scenario for the Mavs, that this will unfold like the Warriors series: Lower seed steals Game One, then the home team wins the next five.

The Mavs are a damn good road team. Over the years they have had a lot of success in San Antonio. I think each team will get a win in the other team's gym at some point - Dallas has not been dominant at home, but they are a rugged and resilient road team, with a history of getting it done at the AT&T Center.

Spurs in 6 or 7 would not shock or surprise me, but Mavs in 7 is my prediction.

[monosylab1k]

I'm sorry, I know that beating the hell out of Memphis, Sacramento, and the Clippers should make my dick hard and lead me to expect the Mavs to blaze through the playoffs. But for whatever reason, beating shitty teams doesn't impress me.

I'll take what the Mavs have done for the majority of the season against all competition - look impressive, get lazy, look less than impressive, start pouting, make a trade, look impressive, get lazy, look less than impressive, start pouting, beat some shitty teams, look impressive.

We're in the "get lazy" period that will quickly devolve into completely sucking taint.

[Findog]

I'm sorry, I know that beating the hell out of Memphis, Sacramento, and the Clippers should make my dick hard and lead me to expect the Mavs to blaze through the playoffs. But for whatever reason, beating shitty teams doesn't impress me.


Against + .500 teams:

Dallas: 25-18, 13-9 H, 12-9 R
San Antonio: 20-23, 11-9 H, 9-14 R

Excluding tonight's preseason game:

Mavs win the season series over San Antonio 2-1

Who says the Mavs should win this series because of what they did against New Jersey and the Clippers?



I'll take what the Mavs have done for the majority of the season against all competition - look impressive, get lazy, look less than impressive, start pouting, make a trade, look impressive, get lazy look, less than impressive, start pouting, beat some shitty teams, look impressive.

We're in the "get lazy" period that will quickly devolve into completely sucking taint.

And the Spurs have been some sort of paragon of consistency and excellence? The team that gets owned by the Nets and Grizzlies while fighting for playoff seeding? It's not like they slept-walked through a b2b in November.

Dallas before the trade: 32-20, .615 Winning Percentage
Dallas after trade: 23-7, .766 Winning Percentage, 5th-Best Point Differential in the League

The Spurs for the most part turned it on for the stretch run, but there are still warts and cracks in their foundation. You could say the same about Dallas. If a Spurs fan wanted to, they could just as easily be as pessimistic as you are.

[Shank]

I'm going to negate Mono's prediction and call for Mavs in 3.

[Findog]

Just for clarification, the Spurs suck without Manu and he didn't play against the Nets,

Yeah, I know he was out that game. They still should've won, it was the Nets.

[jack sommerset]

Dallas after trade: 23-7, .766 Winning Percentage, 5th-Best Point Differential in the League.

Mavs will destroy SA.

[Spursmania]

This will be a very good series, no doubt. The team with the biggest balls will take it. The last time the Mavs faced a healthy Manu in the playoffs, Manu blew it with the last foul on Dirk. I think he wants the monkey off his back.

My money is on Manu...He's a mean and lethal motherfucker when he's healthy. He's healthy now and peaking.

[Shank]

To the Nets credit, they did have a nice little run to round out the season. But the Grizzlies loss, that was just stupid.

[Bob Lanier]

Mavs in 4.

[Shank]

This will be a very good series, no doubt. The team with the biggest balls will take it. The last time the Mavs faced a healthy Manu in the playoffs, Manu blew it with the last foul on Dirk. I think he wants the monkey off his back.

My money is on Manu...He's a mean and lethal motherfucker when he's healthy. He's healthy now and peaking.

He's also 4 years older with a lot more wear on those tires. The guy is still amazing, but I'd question whether he can hold up through a series as he did in 2006.

[AnthonyM]

I can see this series going either way. As a Spurs fan I did not want to see the Mavs in the first round since the Spurs have no answer for Dirk.

But since we have them, I think the Spurs can win the series but Manu needs to continue his spectacular play. If the Spurs decide to leave the 3-point line uncontested like they did for Kidd tonight then they will not win.

Pop has to stick with a set lineup too. And if Parker gets his legs back quick...Kidd will probably look silly on defense.

Still, I think its 60-40 in favor of the Mavs at this point. Objectively.

Subjectively, Spurs in 7 :hat

[Spursmania]

He's also 4 years older with a lot more wear on those tires. The guy is still amazing, but I'd question whether he can hold up through a series as he did in 2006.

Without a doubt, we are all waiting to see if he can sustain. But, he's looking pretty healthy right now.

[jack sommerset]

Another thing. Parker has a big fucking mouth. Knocking Kidd the way he did in support of Devon Harris will come back to haunt that dumbass and SA again. How that trade work out New Jersey?

Parker really does make me sick. Since age has caught Duncan, Parker ain't SHIT. He is average in this league at best. Just saying.

[Findog]

He's also 4 years older with a lot more wear on those tires. The guy is still amazing, but I'd question whether he can hold up through a series as he did in 2006.

I can't help but think we have a few more answers for them than they do for us.

We can throw Marion, Butler, Stevenson and Kidd at Manu. We have Haywood and Dampier to throw at Duncan.

How are they going to defend Dirk? I suspect the same way as last year and not straight up.

There's not much separating these two teams, I will agree on that.

[AnthonyM]

I can't help but think we have a few more answers for them than they do for us.

We can throw Marion, Butler, Stevenson and Kidd at Manu. We have Haywood and Dampier to throw at Duncan.

How are they going to defend Dirk? I suspect the same way as last year and not straight up.

There's not much separating these two teams, I will agree on that.

Would you be worried if Pop played Dirk straight up all series and really stayed home on the Mavs perimeter players to keep them from getting hot?

I personally believe that strategy is better than doubling and tripling Dirk. Spurs will dig their own grave doing that.

[ezau]

Spurs in seven. I just don't feel too good facing a talented and deep Mavs. They're tough and that being said, their fans are pussies

[Shank]

Spurs in seven. I just don't feel too good facing a talented and deep Mavs. They're tough and that being said, their fans are pussies

Oh, come on. That's not fair. I'm cool as fuck.

[badfish22]

Mavs finished with the best road record in the NBA, so its not being a homer if you think they take one in San Antonio, mono.

[Findog]

Would you be worried if Pop played Dirk straight up all series and really stayed home on the Mavs perimeter players to keep them from getting hot?


It worked for Denver last year, but the Nuggets had so many more pieces than we did. They could afford to let Dirk get his 27 and 10. We didn't have enough answers for them on defense. The Hornets did the same in 2008, but the Mavs were in disarray at the time.

It's rare though that Dirk bukkakes a team and we don't win. I just can't see the Spurs letting Dirk set up in the high post and drain fadeaways over Bonner all day long. Swarming him with doubles didn't work out for San Antonio last year because Barea, Bass and Howard burned you guys, but it has worked for Miami and Golden State. Houston nearly beat us with the same strategy in 2005. If you neuter Dirk's ability to go off and concede open looks to his teammates and they beat you anyways, you tip your hat and wish them luck in the next round.

[sribb43]

I wouldn't be shocked at all if the mavs lost... I'm most concerned with how they play at home in the series. If they continue to shit the bed at the aac with the same lackluster efforts we've seen all year, then I'm very concerned

[monosylab1k]

Much to success to ya, even if you wish me the opposite
Sooner or later we'll all see who the prophet is

[Findog]

I wouldn't be shocked at all if the mavs lost... I'm most concerned with how they play at home in the series. If they continue to shit the bed at the aac with the same lackluster efforts we've seen all year, then I'm very concerned

Yep. It's very important they go up 2-0. It's not like they can't win a road game, but you don't want to be in the position of having to get one.

[Brazil]

mavs in 6 book it

[badfish22]

I wouldn't be shocked at all if the mavs lost... I'm most concerned with how they play at home in the series. If they continue to shit the bed at the aac with the same lackluster efforts we've seen all year, then I'm very concerned

If they give lackluster effort in the playoffs they deserve to be shot.

[ezau]

Oh, come on. That's not fair. I'm cool as fuck.
:lol:lol

[Chillen]

I'm going to negate Mono's prediction and call for Mavs in 3.

Actually I believe on game 1 the players will dress up in uniform walk onto the court and the ref will throw up a coin instead of the ball and each team before the game had to privately pick if they wanted "heads" or "tails". I have some inside info and the Mavs picked "tails" and the Spurs picked "heads". When the game starts whoever wins the coin toss wins the series, so it could go either way. :rollin

and no joke, that is how I view this series, both teams have what it takes to win the series so let me just say the Spurs or Mavs will win it.

[Findog]

Much to success to ya, even if you wish me the opposite
Sooner or later we'll all see who the prophet is

Yeah Nas, you're really going out on a limb by predicting a Spurs win when the teams are pretty evenly matched.

[jack sommerset]

Be realistic. The players, media and fans were talking about how one sided that trade was for the Mavs and they were right. Also getting rid of Howard was the best thing the Mavs did in 10 years. This won't even be close.

[sribb43]

If they give lackluster effort in the playoffs they deserve to be shot.

agreed

[monosylab1k]

Yeah Nas, you're really going out on a limb by predicting a Spurs win when the teams are pretty evenly matched.

okay, and a couple weeks ago you acted like I was committing a crime against humanity by suggesting Dallas would be out in the 1st round.

[AnthonyM]

It worked for Denver last year, but the Nuggets had so many more pieces than we did. They could afford to let Dirk get his 27 and 10. We didn't have enough answers for them on defense. The Hornets did the same in 2008, but the Mavs were in disarray at the time.




True, but the Spurs also have more pieces this year, with Manu back, a (hopefully) healthier Tim, and a more developed George Hill, and even though he hasn't been living up to expectations RJ is still enough of a threat.

I'd like to see the approach Pop takes, but I think the Spurs can play Nowitzki straight up and let him get his instead of throwing everything at him and letting the other role players get hot like last year.

OTOH, if the Spurs throw everything at him they have better defensive personnel than they had last year with Manu replacing Mason, RJ replacing Finley, and Hill and Bonner and Dice to help fill in off the bench.

Not sure but Dirk is going to get his points as always, I think Pop should treat him like Kobe and let him get his and try to keep the other players in check.

tbh imo

[Findog]

okay, and a couple weeks ago you acted like I was committing a crime against humanity by suggesting Dallas would be out in the 1st round.

You were acting like it was a logical impossibility for them to advance. C'mon. They have an excellent chance to win this series. One of these teams is going home when they're both at least second-round caliber.

[LOL@MavsFan]

I hate predictions...both teams are evenly matched...even more so than last season.

I just hope important on either team is injured so it can be a true series...hasnt been that way since 06 playoffs and the Mavs took it....No predictions here, just want a good series

Good luck!!!!!!!!!

[Shank]

When the predictions start rolling in, I'd wager a good 80% are in the Mavs favor with most seeing the series going 6 games.

[badfish22]

LOL@Mavsfan finally stops talking shit before the series starts. crofl

[Amarelooms]

I hate predictions...both teams are evenly matched...even more so than last season.

I just hope important on either team is injured so it can be a true series...hasnt been that way since 06 playoffs and the Mavs took it....No predictions here, just want a good series

Good luck!!!!!!!!!

I sense a sabotage here...no Spurs fan could be so non-bias and make sense

:elephant

[LOL@MavsFan]

You were acting like it was a logical impossibility for them to advance. C'mon. They have an excellent chance to win this series. One of these teams is going home when they're both at least second-round caliber.
:toast Nice take
This is the first time I can remember that any team in the west has a legitimate chance at winning the conference....they are all so evenly matched. This is going to be a playoffs for the ages in the west.

[LOL@MavsFan]

I sense a sabotage here...no Spurs fan could be so non-bias and make sense

:elephant

I was thinking the same about Mavs fan....haha. I hate the Mavs with a passion, but I know each team in the west 1-8 has a chance

Good luck Mavs fan....maybe the qtr century of choking is over!!!!! Even a broken clock is right twice a day!:downspin:

[Findog]

When the predictions start rolling in, I'd wager a good 80% are in the Mavs favor with most seeing the series going 6 games.

Mavs have only lost 7 times since the trade, but when they do lose, it tends to be a bed-shitting effort:

34 at home to the Knicks
13 on the road to the Zombies in the first game after the trade
a deceptively "close" loss at home to the Zombies by 5
15 at home to Orlando on a b2b
12 on the road to Portland
16 on the road to the Hornets
9 at home to the Celtics

They lost on average by 15 in those games. They count as one in the standings, but they sure do leave a bad taste in your mouth. Four of those seven losses were "lack of effort" losses. This team negates a lot of its weaknesses when it simply plays hard. With no b2bs in the playoffs and no excuses for not bringing it when a loss can imperil your season, the intensity should be there.

[LOL@MavsFan]

I love it! Spurs-Mavs hands down the best rivalry since the 80s Lakers-Celtics Playoffs on! I've been waiting for this since last April!

[jack sommerset]

Who's slanging crack around here?

Mavs beat them in 5 last year. The Mavs are even better this year while SA has gotten worse. It's the first round. A 2nd seed vs a 7th seed. Avery and Howard are gone from the choke season. Reality is back in the mix. No problems for the Mavs.

[The Cougar]

Mavs beat them in 5 last year. The Mavs are even better this year while SA has gotten worse. It's the first round. A 2nd seed vs a 7th seed. Avery and Howard are gone from the choke season. Reality is back in the mix. No problems for the Mavs.

too bad they are completely different teams from last year

[jack sommerset]

too bad they are completely different teams from last year

Which is why the Mavericks are better and SA is worse. They will smoke em. Mavs even have a little french fucker themselves now who IMHO is better than Parker.

[badfish22]

Which is why the Mavericks are better and SA is worse. They will smoke em. Mavs even have a little french fucker themselves now who IMHO is better than Parker.

too bad our little french fucker never plays.

[Rick Carlisle]

little french fucker

Wait, is he dtf?

[jack sommerset]

too bad our little french fucker never plays.

That shows you how much better the Mavs are than SA. SA's french fucker starts and the Mavs french fucker usually pepe lepu's of the bench behind JJ.

[SenorSpur]

This is my official prediction. I'm not the most beloved, most popular, or most amicable Mavs fan on this board, but there's no doubt I've got the best grasp of this team. My percentage of things I've been right on over the past few years far exceeds that of any other Mavs fan on this board, tbh.

That's why I'm letting it be known right now. Mavs are going down. Spurs got this shit. Wanna know the outcome of each game? Here, Monostradamus will tell you -

Gm 1 - Spurs Win
Gm 2 - Mavs Win
Gm 3 - Spurs Win
Gm 4 - Spurs Win
Gm 5 - Mavs Win
Gm 6 - Spurs Win

I've had my finger on the pulse of these Dallas Mavericks all season, and this is what I've got - a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners. When things are going their way and everybody is having fun, they play great. When they start playing great, they start slacking off. When they play terrible, they slump their shoulders and pout like some fucking 6 year olds.

Granted, the new Mavs have given this team a small level of toughness never seen before in Dallas. But even still, this is a team that, when you punch them in the mouth, they'll back down like KG to anybody over 6 feet tall.

Enjoy the 2nd round, Spurs fans.

Mono, appreciate your insights as always. You always have struck me as one of THE most level-headed fans around here. A couple of factors from both sides:

From the Mavs side, ever since they emerged from that 2006 WCSF series, they've played the Spurs with another level of confidence. Motivation is no longer an issue.

From the Spurs side. after that humiliating loss in last year's playoffs, they have the "revenge" thing going for them. That should add a little bit of incentive. Especially since they are virtually injury-free.

Ever since their first playoff meeting in 2001, the level of playoff intensity has always been amped up volumes. These two teams ALWAYS seem to bring out the best in one another.

[LOL@MavsFan]

Mavs beat them in 5 last year. The Mavs are even better this year while SA has gotten worse. It's the first round. A 2nd seed vs a 7th seed. Avery and Howard are gone from the choke season. Reality is back in the mix. No problems for the Mavs.

Yeah the spurs are even worse with a healthy manu, tim, parker....stop watching espn

[Baseline]

Bottom Line: Never, ever, ever underestimate a healthy Manu Ginobili.

[duncan228]

The Spurs literally had 2 players last year and one of them which was Duncan was playing with plantar fasciitis the entire year.

Just to clarify: Duncan was playing hurt last year, but not from plantar fasciitis.

He was diagnosed with tendonosis in his right knee last year in February, and his left knee was bothering him as well, that got to the point where he's needed the brace this season. His game dropped badly after the All-Star break.

He had plantar fasciitis the entire 2005-06 season.

Just clarifying. :)

[jack sommerset]

Explain to me dumbass how the Spurs are worse this year than last year? I would love to hear your logic moron.

The Spurs literally had 2 players last year and one of them which was Duncan was playing with plantar fasciitis the entire year.

I guess having a healthy Tim, Tony, and Manu makes them worse this year. Also the improvement of George Hill makes them worse. And, losing Oberto and picking up Mcdyess and Blair is destroying the team this year too. Lastly as bad has Dick has been he still improves the Spurs team over last years team.

Now I know why everyone thinks your a retard in the political forum..you seem to just talk out of your ass:toast


Gotcha.....They are playing so much better this year but last year won 4 more games. The 2009-2010 Spews are so freaken much better this year, they managed to squeak out a tie with the Thunder.

The Spews played so hurt last year but they won more games. You have great logic. Let me guess. The West go sooooooo much better, BLAH!!!!!! Whatever gets you through the day.

[peteee]

This is my official prediction. I'm not the most beloved, most popular, or most amicable Mavs fan on this board, but there's no doubt I've got the best grasp of this team. My percentage of things I've been right on over the past few years far exceeds that of any other Mavs fan on this board, tbh.

That's why I'm letting it be known right now. Mavs are going down. Spurs got this shit. Wanna know the outcome of each game? Here, Monostradamus will tell you -

Gm 1 - Spurs Win
Gm 2 - Mavs Win
Gm 3 - Spurs Win
Gm 4 - Spurs Win
Gm 5 - Mavs Win
Gm 6 - Spurs Win

I've had my finger on the pulse of these Dallas Mavericks all season, and this is what I've got - a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners. When things are going their way and everybody is having fun, they play great. When they start playing great, they start slacking off. When they play terrible, they slump their shoulders and pout like some fucking 6 year olds.

Granted, the new Mavs have given this team a small level of toughness never seen before in Dallas. But even still, this is a team that, when you punch them in the mouth, they'll back down like KG to anybody over 6 feet tall.

Enjoy the 2nd round, Spurs fans.
Mavs roughly had the same jump shooting frontrunners last season, and they didn't even have Marion then who wasn't of this category, but Spurs still managed to lose the series to Mavs pretty meekly in game 5. No dramatic change has been made between the compounds of Mavs and Spurs, hence I still see Mavs having a better chance this year.

Ironically it was you who die-hardly advocated and expertised the buzzer beating trade that Mavs made though Mavs would finally gain some sort of success this season, and it's now the same retarded person who's tentatively predicting a loss for Mavs.

I wish you would bother to check the history to find the last time that Spurs beat the Mavs in a series in playoffs, and compare its date to the exact date that Iraq war ended at and tell me which is earlier.

[Muser]

idk why Mav fan is so scared.

[Basketballgirl25]

Yeah, I know he was out that game. They still should've won, it was the Nets.

Don't be talking about the Nets now, buddy boy. The Nets might not have won many games this season, but when you have only 8 players playing the first 10 games or so it is hard to win games, when you have no real coach it's harder as well. Nets have talent and next season is a whole new season, can't wait till we kill the Mavs next season:toast

[rascal]

Bottom Line: Never, ever, ever underestimate a healthy Manu Ginobili.

Manu will not take the spurs to a title. He just is not that good to carry a team to a title.

You will need strong play from the bigs to go far in the playoffs.

[doobs]

Mavs beat them in 5 last year. The Mavs are even better this year while SA has gotten worse. It's the first round. A 2nd seed vs a 7th seed. Avery and Howard are gone from the choke season. Reality is back in the mix. No problems for the Mavs.

Do you watch basketball?

Manu Ginobili didn't play in that series.

/yourstupidpoint

[pauls931]

I'd love to see the Spurs win just to see Cuban's reaction. Especially if it's in San Antonio and then have a spurs mob throw him into that dirty green river near the mall and where Rodman likes to pee.

[peteee]

Don't be talking about the Nets now, buddy boy. The Nets might not have won many games this season, but when you have only 8 players playing the first 10 games or so it is hard to win games, when you have no real coach it's harder as well. Nets have talent and next season is a whole new season, can't wait till we kill the Mavs next season:toast
unless Lebron or Wade joined them this summer, which isn't very likely to happen though.

[monoslyab1k]

Different faces, same pussy jump shooting mentality

I like the Smashing Pumpkins

t1N_qX_r4Iw

[Ghazi]

Didn't the Mavs have an enormous amount of comebacks this year, and the most road wins in the league? Never question the great mentality of the Dallas Mavs.

This is just a subtle jab @ Dirk by Mono. After all, this is the same guy who wanted Dirk traded for the likes of Anthony Randolph and Tyrus motherfucking Thomas.

[peteee]

An attempt at humor? That was borderline lefty bad.
are the Warriors qualified for playoffs this season? or further rigorously, how long has it been since their last playoff appearance?

[Findog]

Didn't the Mavs have an enormous amount of comebacks this year, and the most road wins in the league? Never question the great mentality of the Dallas Mavs.

I'd have to check, but I think Cleveland is the only other team that had a winning record on the road against +.500 teams.

The main reason to worry about this series is because the Spurs have raised their game and rounded into form - not because of weaknesses or deficiencies in the Mavericks. My biggest worry is Terry getting 40 minutes and Roddy getting none. I don't see Roddy playing 30 minutes a game, but I think Carlisle will find timely and opportunistic moments to use him.


This is just a subtle jab @ Dirk by Mono. After all, this is the same guy who wanted Dirk traded for the likes of Anthony Randolph and Tyrus motherfucking Thomas.

And he has the balls to say he has the best track record of getting things right with this team. :lol

[peteee]

If you're so confident, Ghazi, then let's bet on this shit.
Unfair for Ghazi TBH. Ghazi is one established paragon who's mantled with numerous honors and considerable fame, while in contrast you are a, said with the highest respect deserved for you, troll.

[BlackSwordsMan]

mavs in 5. :elephant

[peteee]

If Spurs win, you post a youtube video reading a prepared statement by me. Wearing either (1) nothing but an adult diaper, or (2) wearing an Aladdin outfit complete with turban.

Let me know what I have to do if the Mavs win.
If the Mavs lose, you change your title to "I AM GHAZIS BITCH".

[Ghazi]

Tayshaun Prince as a rookie averaged 10 minutes a game in regular season and it got upped to 25 minutes in playoffs under Carlisle.

Just saying :D

The great Carlisle knows what he's doing . :)

[peteee]

okay Mr. "Kidd for Harris was a bad move"
said Senor "Butler/Haywood are the saviours"

[Findog]

okay Mr. "Kidd for Harris was a bad move"

Okay Mr. "Baron Davis and Chris Kaman together are what this team needs" :lol

[Findog]

Tayshaun Prince as a rookie averaged 10 minutes a game in regular season and it got upped to 25 minutes in playoffs under Carlisle.

Just saying :D

The great Carlisle knows what he's doing . :)

Carlisle's a great in-game coach. I hope Roddy gets 15-20 mpg in the playoffs. We shall see. Not playing him 35 mpg all season long means he'll have fresh legs for the playoffs. Carlisle is many things, but stupid is not one of them.

[peteee]

Tayshaun Prince as a rookie averaged 10 minutes a game in regular season and it got upped to 25 minutes in playoffs under Carlisle.

Just saying :D

The great Carlisle knows what he's doing . :)
As great as Carlisle is, he still only knows one thing named "experience wins playoffs" and you know how he will use Roddy, or how dumbly he will abandon him next to Carroll to make it more rigorous.

[peteee]

Carlisle's a great in-game coach. I hope Roddy gets 15-20 mpg in the playoffs. We shall see. Not playing him 35 mpg all season long means he'll have fresh legs for the playoffs. Carlisle is many things, but stupid is not one of them.
Stupid isn't one of them, it's all of them.

[peteee]

Are you makin a bet with me or not?

See all these Mavs fans have the balls to talk shit about my prediction, but then when the time comes to show some actual faith in the Mavericks, all I get is a bunch of "well this is just such an evenly matched series, it really could go either way" crap.

Either locate your balls and bet on the Mavericks, or shut the fuck up about me picking the Spurs.
You're picking a team that hasn't beat the Mavs in a playoff series since a time so old that you can't even remember it.

[nkdlunch]

Mavs in no less than 6

[Ghazi]

Oh hi Mono

I'm not saying the Mavs will absolutely win, I'm just saying your reasons for why they win are irrational and subtle shots @ the great Dirk Nowitzki :)

Mavs mentality has been strong for quite some time now. Howard being traded was an immediate upgrade to the overall mental toughness and basketball IQ of the team :).

Mavs might lose because they are a mid range jump shooting team, have somewhat slow wing players... have trouble defending PG's/PF's... because Ginobili might continue his tear.. etc etc, but not because they fold when punched in the mouth

[Ghazi]

mono i would take a bet but not one requiring me dressing up on youtube. too much effort and too embarrassing :D

Mavs in fucking 7!

[Findog]

Yeah, the last thing this team needs is an athletic guard and a big man with a post game :rolleyes

A fucking loser and a big man with a history of foot problems when he was on the trading block. :toast

If you want Kaman, you have to take POS Baron Davis and his contract too. :toast

[peteee]

i don't want to go all Generic Unoriginal Spur Fan here, but...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/04/sports/04cnd-warriors2.600.jpg

yeah, that fucking loser.
beating a lump of soft pussies isn't something to flaunt IMHO.

[Findog]

i don't want to go all Generic Unoriginal Spur Fan here, but...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/04/sports/04cnd-warriors2.600.jpg

yeah, that fucking loser.

He should be a perennial top 10 player and win a playoff series more than once every 5 or 6 years. He's a fucking loser. That's not sour grapes, they beat us fair and square and he was great in that series. But I want no part of him for 5 years and $65 million.

[monosylab1k]

He should be a perennial top 10 player and win a playoff series more than once every 5 or 6 years. He's a fucking loser. That's not sour grapes, they beat us fair and square and he was great in that series. But I want no part of him for 5 years and $65 million.

completely irrelevant. Money isn't an issue with Cuban, and I think giving Shawn Marion such a ridiculous contract makes it even more plain that Cuban will do whatever it takes to make his team happy for the next 2 years, and after that we all know the window is closed so who cares what kind of bad contracts the team has.

[Findog]

Are you makin a bet with me or not?

See all these Mavs fans have the balls to talk shit about my prediction, but then when the time comes to show some actual faith in the Mavericks, all I get is a bunch of "well this is just such an evenly matched series, it really could go either way" crap.

Either locate your balls and bet on the Mavericks, or shut the fuck up about me picking the Spurs.

It's not your Spurs prediction, it's your pejorative "Mavs are a bunch of soft pussies who will fold" schtick when they're not afraid of the Spurs and always play hard against them. If the Spurs win, and there's a good chance they will, it will be because they're just better than Dallas.

Your original post in this thread didn't talk about how Ginobili is healthy and playing his best ball of the season, or how the Mavs wings might have trouble containing dribble penetration by Parker or Hill, how Duncan is healthy and will become a bigger focal point than he is in the regular season. It was an ESPN Colin Cowherd take imo. I expect better from you.

[Findog]

completely irrelevant. Money isn't an issue with Cuban, and I think giving Shawn Marion such a ridiculous contract makes it even more plain that Cuban will do whatever it takes to make his team happy for the next 2 years, and after that we all know the window is closed so who cares what kind of bad contracts the team has.

You know though that Marion and Kidd want to win - Marion after finally getting a dose of basketball reality in Miami and Toronto, Kidd because time is running short in his career and he wants to win a title. Unlike B-Diddy, there's no chance of them showing up fat and out of shape to training camp after getting their big contract. He's a loser. For one month in May of 2007, he was incredible, but that's about it.

[dirk4mvp]

I forgot it's almost the playoffs. Gotta start waking up earlier and skipping school to keep up, tbh.

[jack sommerset]

Do you watch basketball?

Manu Ginobili didn't play in that series.

/yourstupidpoint

:blah

[peteee]

He should be a perennial top 10 player and win a playoff series more than once every 5 or 6 years. He's a fucking loser. That's not sour grapes, they beat us fair and square and he was great in that series. But I want no part of him for 5 years and $65 million.
not being a top and winning once every 5-6 years equals being a fucking loser? what a hemiplegic viewpoint.

[monosylab1k]

It's not your Spurs prediction, it's your pejorative "Mavs are a bunch of soft pussies who will fold" schtick when they're not afraid of the Spurs and always play hard against them. If the Spurs win, and there's a good chance they will, it will be because they're just better than Dallas.

I didn't call them soft pussies. I even remarked that this season they've displayed a toughness never before seen.

I called them jumpshooting frontrunners, which is spot on tbh. When everything is peachy keen and the guys can laugh and have fun and tell fuckin jokes, things go smoothly. But once things go smoothly, then they get lazy and start slacking off. When they slack off, they might pull out a few close wins, but eventually it catches up to them and things start going badly. And when things go badly, suddenly everybody's shoulders slump, everybody acts like their dog just died, and Jason Terry starts thinking 40 foot jumpers are a viable option.

And round and round we go. Correct me where I'm wrong.

[Findog]

I didn't call them soft pussies. I even remarked that this season they've displayed a toughness never before seen.

I called them jumpshooting frontrunners, which is spot on tbh.

What's the difference really? "Jumpshooting frontrunner" sounds like a synonym for "soft pussy." They imply the same characteristics.




And round and round we go. Correct me where I'm wrong

They get out to big leads (their best PD is in the 1st Q) because their starting five is an excellent five-man unit. They have trouble maintaining leads because of iffy bench production (Terry's streakiness) and the fact that they're an old team with a lot of guys that are 30+. I suspect that a big reason why their PD doesn't match their W-L record is because they get out-quicked by younger and fresher legs in the second halves of games. Fatigue won't be as much of a factor in the playoffs because there are no B2Bs. They also win damn near close to 70% of games decided by 5 or less - that's Kidd's leadership and bball IQ, the two-man game with Dirk and Terry consistently creating good looks in half-court sets during crunch-time, and Carlisle being a good in-game micromanager.

[monosylab1k]

What's the difference really? "Jumpshooting frontrunner" sounds like a synonym for "soft pussy." They imply the same characteristics.




They get out to big leads (their best PD is in the 1st Q) because their starting five is an excellent five-man unit. They have trouble maintaining leads because of iffy bench production (Terry's streakiness) and the fact that they're an old team with a lot of guys that are 30+. I suspect that a big reason why their PD doesn't match their W-L record is because they get out-quicked by younger and fresher legs in the second halves of games. Fatigue won't be as much of a factor in the playoffs because there are no B2Bs. They also win damn near close to 70% of games decided by 5 or less - that's Kidd's leadership and bball IQ, the two-man game with Dirk and Terry consistently creating good looks in half-court sets during crunch-time, and Carlisle being a good in-game micromanager.

Well the first time San Antone goes on a 14-2 run which includes 3 JJ Barea turnovers, 4 Jason Terry three pointer bricks with 22 seconds on the shot clock, Parker/Ginobili getting to the rim at will, and Dirk just watching it all happen (okay, maybe he takes some action and shoots a fadeaway over George Hill), I'll think of you.

[Findog]

Well the first time San Antone goes on a 14-2 run which includes 3 JJ Barea turnovers, 4 Jason Terry three pointer bricks with 22 seconds on the shot clock, Parker/Ginobili getting to the rim at will, and Dirk just watching it all happen (okay, maybe he takes some action and shoots a fadeaway over George Hill), I'll think of you.

Okay

[EmptyMan]

http://www.3click.tv/mp4//Chappelles%20Show/season2/metadata/62768.jpg

[peteee]

What's the difference really? "Jumpshooting frontrunner" sounds like a synonym for "soft pussy." They imply the same characteristics.




They get out to big leads (their best PD is in the 1st Q) because their starting five is an excellent five-man unit. They have trouble maintaining leads because of iffy bench production (Terry's streakiness) and the fact that they're an old team with a lot of guys that are 30+. I suspect that a big reason why their PD doesn't match their W-L record is because they get out-quicked by younger and fresher legs in the second halves of games. Fatigue won't be as much of a factor in the playoffs because there are no B2Bs. They also win damn near close to 70% of games decided by 5 or less - that's Kidd's leadership and bball IQ, the two-man game with Dirk and Terry consistently creating good looks in half-court sets during crunch-time, and Carlisle being a good in-game micromanager.
Mavs are just predestined to be curbstomped by the teams of certain types IMHO, which doesn't have much to do with fatigues or anything related. As much as well-agglutinated their starting 5 are, they cannot show any dominance in the early 1st quarter and more often than not they just barely stay afloat with game tied or divided by 5pt or less. they just start to show signs of losing as their destiny intends and concede massive points as the game goes into 2nd quarter (take the games against Thunder for example), not because they start to rest and slack off, nor that their bench-off players are shite. Carlisle has Roddy to play behind Kidd but Barea always gets his call, which consequently lead to the opposing PG/SG dropping points unstoppably at times. And I don't think such poor substitutions are normally supposed to be made by a good ingame coach.

[Muser]

Just gotta hope Marion misses 4 gimme layups right at the start again.

[clambake]

Just gotta hope Marion misses 4 gimme layups right at the start again.

please don't say this anymore. gives me nightmares.

[monosylab1k]

Okay

Yeah like we haven't seen that sequence play out before. Dirk shooting a fadeaway in crunch time over a 6-4 rookie with 5 fouls comes to mind quickly.

[Findog]

Yeah like we haven't seen that sequence play out before. Dirk shooting a fadeaway in crunch time over a 6-4 rookie with 5 fouls comes to mind quickly.

Yeah, and we've also never seem him set up shop in the high post and put a team away in crunchtime...or get the ball on the low block near the baseline and go to work, either spinning towards the hoop for a layup or hitting Kidd for an open three when the defense collapses on him. Dirk sucks.

[monosylab1k]

At least I've got a definitive take on the series. I'm not going to pussyfoot around with some milquetoast take of "well both teams are just so gosh darn good, it really could go either way". If the Mavs win this series you have no room to talk shit because you don't even have the balls to pick them outright.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Just gotta hope Marion misses 4 gimme layups right at the start again.


It's the playoffs against the Spurs, you can count on it.

[Ghazi]

At least I've got a definitive take on the series. I'm not going to pussyfoot around with some milquetoast take of "well both teams are just so gosh darn good, it really could go either way". If the Mavs win this series you have no room to talk shit because you don't even have the balls to pick them outright.

Mavs in 6.

Ima torch that ass when it happens.:lobt2:

[dirk4mvp]

It's the playoffs against the Spurs, you can count on it.

Myth, tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Myth, tbh.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200505220PHO.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200505240PHO.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200505280SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200505300SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200506010PHO.html

His series high against the Spurs in 2005 was 11, while he averaged 19.4 PPG in the regular season. If that's not choking, please Mr. Basketball, be my guest and tell me what choking is.

[dirk4mvp]

It's ok, yo don't have to try and show out.

also Ghazi put a rest to your claim yesterday, imho.

[Cane]

Myth, tbh.

:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's ok, yo don't have to try and show out.

also Ghazi put a rest to your claim yesterday, imho.


So what I just showed isn't choking?

[Findog]

At least I've got a definitive take on the series. I'm not going to pussyfoot around with some milquetoast take of "well both teams are just so gosh darn good, it really could go either way". If the Mavs win this series you have no room to talk shit because you don't even have the balls to pick them outright.

I picked Mavs in 7

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4240107&postcount=15

[dirk4mvp]

So what I just showed isn't choking?

No. Amare ballhogging, imho.

[Findog]

Shawn Marion:

eFG% for his career: .511
eFG% in the playoffs: .496

Rebounding rate for his career: 14.6%
Rebounding rate in the playoffs: 15.1%

Steal % for his career: 2.4%
Steal % in the playoffs: 1.9%

Offensive Rating for his career: 111
Offensive Rating in the playoffs: 111

Defensive Rating for his career: 101
Defensive Rating in the playoffs: 104

PER for his career: 19.9
PER in the playoffs: 18.2


His numbers are slightly worse in the playoffs, which is not much of a surprise when the competition improves dramatically and you don't play the Nets or Timberwolves. We don't need him to score 20 a game like the Suns did, we need him to check Manu and keep him from bukakking all over us. If Manu scores 18-20 a game on 43% shooting, then Marion has done his job. If he scores 30-35 on +50% shooting, then we're in trouble.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No. Amare ballhogging, imho.


The fact Marion's FG% was significantly lower during that series than it was during the regular season debunks that theory. Also, when you're averaging 40+ points on 60+% shooting, it's not really ball hogging.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Shawn Marion:

eFG% for his career: .511
eFG% in the playoffs: .496

Rebounding rate for his career: 14.6%
Rebounding rate in the playoffs: 15.1%

Steal % for his career: 2.4%
Steal % in the playoffs: 1.9%

Offensive Rating for his career: 111
Offensive Rating in the playoffs: 111

Defensive Rating for his career: 101
Defensive Rating in the playoffs: 104

PER for his career: 19.9
PER in the playoffs: 18.2


His numbers are slightly worse in the playoffs, which is not much of a surprise when the competition improves dramatically and you don't play the Nets or Timberwolves. We don't need him to score 20 a game like the Suns did, we need him to check Manu and keep him from bukakking all over us. If Manu scores 18-20 a game on 43% shooting, then Marion has done his job. If he scores 30-35 on +50% shooting, then we're in trouble.


I'm talking about playoffs against the Spurs. Congrats to him for bukkaking all over the 2006 and 2007 Lakers.

[in2deep]

yup he dissapears vs. Spurs in the playoffs.

[Ghazi]

This aint the 05-07 Spurs either!

[Findog]

I'm talking about playoffs against the Spurs. Congrats to him for bukkaking all over the 2006 and 2007 Lakers.

And he's not the same player he was in 2007 and he doesn't have the same role on the 2010 Mavs that he did on the 2007 Suns. He's lost some hops. He's not a guy that is going to consistently get you 20 a game like he did during the Run-n-Gun Era with Phoenix. He can still play defense. He's a role player for us, and as long as he continues to play D the way he did in the regular season, we're good. We don't need to run our offense through him in crunch time and take the last shot for us.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The Suns' "needing" Marion to score 20+ points is the biggest sack of bullshit in this thread. The Suns needed Marion to do his job and not force the issue. The amount of dumb shots he took and wide open shots he missed against the Spurs played a huge role in the Suns losing. He had a WIDE open 3 against the Spurs in game 5 that would have sent it to overtime. Clank.

[Blake]

I'm talking about playoffs against the Spurs. Congrats to him for bukkaking all over the 2006 and 2007 Lakers.

I dunno.....is it choking if youre being guarded by Bowen who was putting a hand in Marion's face even when the Spurs had the ball?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I don't think Marion choking will have a huge effect on this series since half the time he's not even playing in the final minutes for Dallas, my only argument here is that he obviously did choke against the Spurs and anyone who tries to argue against that is bias in some sort of way.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The biggest issue for Marion right now is his health as he did not look right at all in last night's game. I know he was coming off an injury and maybe a couple days of rest before Sunday should help.

[Findog]

The Suns' "needing" Marion to score 20+ points is the biggest sack of bullshit in this thread. The Suns needed Marion to do his job and not force the issue. The amount of dumb shots he took and wide open shots he missed against the Spurs played a huge role in the Suns losing. He had a WIDE open 3 against the Spurs in game 5 that would have sent it to overtime. Clank.

Marion just needs to continue to guard the opposing team's best wing like he has all season. He shoots 20% on threes and doesn't take very many of them. I have a hard time believing that he's going to fall off a cliff and suddenly forget how to play defense.

[Findog]

I don't think Marion choking will have a huge effect on this series since half the time he's not even playing in the final minutes for Dallas, my only argument here is that he obviously did choke against the Spurs and anyone who tries to argue against that is bias in some sort of way.

Maybe he did, I don't care. Comparing what he did three years ago on a different team when he was a much better player and had a bigger role to play, as opposed to today when he is a role player on a very different team, is very apples to orangish in my opinion.

[monosylab1k]

I picked Mavs in 7

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4240107&postcount=15

:lol along with a safe "Spurs winning would not shock me" comment.

[Findog]

:lol along with a safe "Spurs winning would not shock me" comment.

Would it shock you if the Mavs won this series? Are you going to be staring at the tv with your mouth agape if the Mavs close it out?

[in2deep]

:lol along with a safe "Spurs winning would not shock me" comment.

mono talkin truth right there. looks like some mavfans talk all the shit about how the Mavs "OWN" the Spurs. But when it comes time to predict, they always add a litle clause "Spurs could win this too"

how can the Spurs have a chance to beat the mavs if the Mavs own the Spurs so bad???

make up your mind son

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I dunno.....is it choking if youre being guarded by Bowen who was putting a hand in Marion's face even when the Spurs had the ball?

When you're the highest paid player on the team and you constantly bitch about not getting touches and being under appreciated, yes, it's choking. No one in their prime who has made the all star team multiple times should be turned into a complete non-factor the way Marion did.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Maybe being an irrelevant mound of shit in Miami and Toronto made Marion realize he should change his attitude, in which case what I was saying is irrelevant. All I know is, from 2005-2007, he had huge problems coming up big at the end of big games, but afterwards had little to no problem pointing the finger at someone else.

[Ghazi]

Quit hating on the Matrix , DOK.

[Findog]

mono talkin truth right there. looks like some mavfans talk all the shit about how the Mavs "OWN" the Spurs. But when it comes time to predict, they always add a litle clause "Spurs could win this too"

how can the Spurs have a chance to beat the mavs if the Mavs own the Spurs so bad???

make up your mind son

Mavs have gotten the better of the Spurs over the past four years, but not by much. If Spur fan wants to rub our noses in shitting the bed against Miami and Golden State and living vicariously through those two teams, why can't we rub the nose in the fact that the Spurs lost the last two series between our teams?

[Blake]

When you're the highest paid player on the team and you constantly bitch about not getting touches and being under appreciated, yes, it's choking. No one in their prime who has made the all star team multiple times should be turned into a complete non-factor the way Marion did.

he might have been the highest paid, but come on.....he was the third best player on the team being defended by the defensive player of the year*

Bowen has turned greater players than the cervix into non-factors.

[Findog]

he might have been the highest paid, but come on.....he was the third best player on the team being defended by the defensive player of the year*

Bowen has turned greater players than the cervix into non-factors.

And Marion can't create his shot either.

[darkwitzki]

Every Spursfan knows they are the underdogs.:wakeup

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

And Marion can't create his shot either.


If only he knew that.

[in2deep]

Every Spursfan knows they are the underdogs.:wakeup


just like every Warriorfan knew in 2007?

[The Cougar]

he might have been the highest paid, but come on.....he was the third best player on the team being defended by the defensive player of the year*

Bowen has turned greater players than the cervix into non-factors.

Bowen was never defensive player of the year

[dirk4mvp]

Bowen was never defensive player of the year

He put an asterisk by it, tbh.

[Muser]

Spurs need to snatch one in Dallas, if they go 2-0 down then we may aswell pack the fishing gear.

[Greg Oden]

Spurs need to snatch one in Dallas, if they go 2-0 down then we may aswell pack the fishing gear.

lol trying to throw other spurfans softballs.

[Muser]

What?

[Blake]

Bowen was never defensive player of the year

I bet you aren't really a cougar.

[Findog]

Mavs before trade against +.500 teams:

8-6 Home (.571), +0.21 PD
8-7 Road (.533), -1.20 PD
16-13 Overall (.551), -0.51 PD

Mavs after trade against +.500 teams:

5-3 Home (.625), + 1.87 PD
4-2 Road (.666), + 0.66 PD
9-5 Overall (.642), + 1.35 PD

[The Cougar]

I bet you aren't really a cougar.

i made this name before the sexual definition for that name got big. Hindsight it could have been better

[clambake]

Spurs need to snatch one in Dallas, if they go 2-0 down then we may aswell pack the fishing gear.

i think the spurs will take the first game, or at least split the first 2.

then i'll get to watch my team start pouting.

[The Cougar]

what pisses me off is this is exactly like 06 where the winner of the series goes on to play phoenix coming off a cake schedule

[Blake]

i made this name before the sexual definition for that name got big. Hindsight it could have been better

2005 join date = you're telling the truth

:lol

[picc84]

Did Marion really bukakke the Lakers in 06 and 07 though?

The only thing I remember about Marion from those series was Odom completely dominating him. The bukkake's came from Nash/Diaw in 06 and Amare/Nash in 07. I don't remember Marion doing jack shit but getting bent over by LO.

[Findog]

Sefko comments on Roddy:


Q: I don't understand why Terry doesn't go out when he's 3-10 from the field and isn't playing a lick of D. I also don't understand why JJB gets small ball-mintutes at the two.

A: First, Barea gets almost all his minutes at the point in relief of Kidd. Sometimes, he'll slide over, but not for long.

So you're going to tell Jason Terry, who by the way is a career 17-point scorer in the playoffs and has won a lot of games for the Mavericks with his shooting, that he's sitting for a rookie who is no better defensively and has had almost all of his high-quality games against lottery teams? No thanks.

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/live-chat-eddie-sefko-answers-your-maver-1.html

[badfish22]

Sefko

Stopped reading there tbh.

[Findog]

Q: Also, are the Mavs concerned at all about Blair's performance last night?

A: They made the commitment to stick with the shooters, not switch any defensive assignments and not give the Spurs anything to look at on tape. They couldn't care less about Blair's outing. Those 36 minutes go to Duncan starting on Sunday. Now if Blair gets 12 rebounds in 12 minutes off the bench, the Mavericks have a problem.

[Findog]

Stopped reading there tbh.

Why?

[Muser]

Blair is capable of getting those rebounds IMO, just depends if Pop trusts him enough.

[Findog]

Q: Hmmm.... I think don't think your giving Roddy his due. Not a better defender than JET? Doesn't Rick substitute him in for defense against quicker guards? Also, whose fault is it that Roddy has most of his good games against poor teams? He hasn't been on the court until recently. Lastly, there have been numerous occasions JJB has gotten extended minutes at the 2.

A: Not lately, in the case of JJB. As for Roddy, I'm all for the guy. He's going to be a terrific starting two guard next season. But right now, he's got to be your submarine-throwing reliever who comes in and can help get you out of a jam, not your closer every night.

[Findog]

Q: What do you think about my infatuation with Hollinger?

A: I think everybody should take the point-differential stat that he's in love with and only apply it to the Mavericks since the trade, which is a respectable 4.5 points per game. Anything that happened to this team before the trade means nothing.

[badfish22]

Why?

Sefkos routine grows old. If Roddy has a good game against San Antonio, he will write a full article saying how great Roddy is and what a mastermind Carlisle is to play him. Then, if Roddy doesn't play the next game he'll start putting subtle jabs in his article about Roddy, saying how he isn't ready. Then he will write a full article of JJ and how much he hustles. Rinse and repeat. Hes a Carlisle supporter to no end.

[badfish22]

no better defensively

:lmao

[Findog]

Sefkos routine grows old. If Roddy has a good game against San Antonio, he will write a full article saying how great Roddy is and what a mastermind Carlisle is to play him. Then, if Roddy doesn't play the next game he'll start putting subtle jabs in his article about Roddy, saying how he isn't ready. Then he will write a full article of JJ and how much he hustles. Rinse and repeat. Hes a Carlisle supporter to no end.

Roddy deserves about 15 minutes a game in the playoffs. I kind of like the middle reliever Neftali Feliz as a rookie analogy. He can help this team, but in certain matchups and in certain situations. I've watched him on defense - lateral quickness is obviously not his problem, instead it's getting lost on rotations, being out of position and not knowing where to be.

I'm not the biggest JET supporter (look above my avatar) but he deserves about 30 minutes a game. Even if he's not hitting all his shots, his presence on the floor as a spot-up shooter with his spacing is something the Spurs have to respect, and that opens up the floor for others. He runs the two-man game with Dirk very well, and in the last five minutes of a game, it's important to be able to consistently get good looks in your half-court sets.

Carlisle has shown a willingness lately to yank him when he shoots 3-12, like in the Zombie Sonics game.

[Chillen]

This could be a dangerous series for Dallas, yes they beat the Spurs in the playoffs in 2006 and 2009, but eventually the Spurs could prove a pest for the Mavericks. They made a trade to help their team, but this is a tough 1st round matchup with huge implications, if they get past the Spurs that trade is what helped. Should be an interesting series, I wouldn't count the Spurs out at all, it could go 7 games.

[Findog]

This could be a dangerous series for Dallas, yes they beat the Spurs in the playoffs in 2006 and 2009, but eventually the Spurs could prove a pest for the Mavericks. They made a trade to help their team, but this is a tough 1st round matchup with huge implications, if they get past the Spurs that trade is what helped. Should be an interesting series, I wouldn't count the Spurs out at all, it could go 7 games.

It's a true tossup. Kind of wish we had gotten the three seed and the Blazers, but Utah lost anyways.

[Lukor]

Sefko is a joke. He would probably still start Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen if they were playing today. Let's face it, Terry is on the down side of his career, ALL his numbers are down this year, all he has left is his reputation but even that will fade as was the case with Finley and Stackhouse.
Sadly RC seems to think alike, otherwise Roddy would be ahead of Terry in the rotation and for good reasons.

[j.dizzle]

This series is going 6-7 IMO. Dallas & SA are pretty much at the same level with a healthy Manu & Parker. Its up to the role players in this one..If Terry shoots lights out then I see Dallas winning. If players like Jefferson, Hill, & Bonner shoot well then I see SA winning. Im actually more excited to watch this series over the Lakers/OKC series haha

[Blake]

Im actually more excited to watch this series over the Lakers/OKC series haha

Of course. Usually 1-8 matchups are over quickly. This one should be no different.

[sonic21]

Parker said he will come off the bench against Dallas. With Manu beasting, it could be a really good choice.

[j.dizzle]

Parker said he will come off the bench against Dallas. With Manu beasting, it could be a really good choice.
Damn I wish Fisher thought like that :lol that guy still thinks he's 26 & playing defense at an elite level.

[Obstructed_View]

I still remember how good Jason Kidd was in the finals against the Spurs a million years ago, and he's been far better for the Mavs than I ever thought he'd be following the Harris trade. While I still don't think the Mavs got the better of that trade, there's little doubt that Jason Kidd is the straw that stirs the drink for the Mavs, and gives them leadership and toughness. He's going to have to be all that to give the Mavs a chance in this series, and I think he's shown the capability, particularly if Tony Parker doesn't turn back into pre-injury Parker in time because he won't be made into a defensive liability.

The Mavs are going to win one or two games in this series simply because they'll have good shooting nights and hit their jumpers enough to make the difference, so the Spurs had better realize that their work's cut out for them. The biggest team related factor on the Spurs' side is whether or not they can hold onto a lead, which has been a problem this year.

[nkdlunch]

this series is too close to call. I will be positive and say Spurs in 7

[Findog]

I still remember how good Jason Kidd was in the finals against the Spurs a million years ago, and he's been far better for the Mavs than I ever thought he'd be following the Harris trade. While I still don't think the Mavs got the better of that trade, there's little doubt that Jason Kidd is the straw that stirs the drink for the Mavs, and gives them leadership and toughness. He's going to have to be all that to give the Mavs a chance in this series, and I think he's shown the capability, particularly if Tony Parker doesn't turn back into pre-injury Parker in time because he won't be made into a defensive liability.

The Mavs are going to win one or two games in this series simply because they'll have good shooting nights and hit their jumpers enough to make the difference, so the Spurs had better realize that their work's cut out for them. The biggest team related factor on the Spurs' side is whether or not they can hold onto a lead, which has been a problem this year.

The biggest challenge for Dallas is defensive consistency. There will be a couple games where they will shoot 40-45% and will need to defend in order to have a chance to win.

[stretch]

I still remember how good Jason Kidd was in the finals against the Spurs a million years ago, and he's been far better for the Mavs than I ever thought he'd be following the Harris trade. While I still don't think the Mavs got the better of that trade, there's little doubt that Jason Kidd is the straw that stirs the drink for the Mavs, and gives them leadership and toughness. He's going to have to be all that to give the Mavs a chance in this series, and I think he's shown the capability, particularly if Tony Parker doesn't turn back into pre-injury Parker in time because he won't be made into a defensive liability.

The Mavs are going to win one or two games in this series simply because they'll have good shooting nights and hit their jumpers enough to make the difference, so the Spurs had better realize that their work's cut out for them. The biggest team related factor on the Spurs' side is whether or not they can hold onto a lead, which has been a problem this year.

lol thinking dallas barely has a chance

lol moron

lol spurfan

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lol thinking dallas barely has a chance

lol moron

lol spurfan

lol reading comprehension

lol one trick pony

lol lowering the bar

[Fpoonsie]

I wanted to avoid the Mavs by whatever means possible. Obviously, that lying sonuvabitch Pop thought otherwise.

If Spurs were to somehow win this series, it'd hafta be in 6 just as mono layed it out. There's NO way we win game 7 on the road in DAL.

[Banzai]

Will be a great series to watch..hopefully as exciting as 2006?

[TD 21]

This is my official prediction. I'm not the most beloved, most popular, or most amicable Mavs fan on this board, but there's no doubt I've got the best grasp of this team. My percentage of things I've been right on over the past few years far exceeds that of any other Mavs fan on this board, tbh.

That's why I'm letting it be known right now. Mavs are going down. Spurs got this shit. Wanna know the outcome of each game? Here, Monostradamus will tell you -

Gm 1 - Spurs Win
Gm 2 - Mavs Win
Gm 3 - Spurs Win
Gm 4 - Spurs Win
Gm 5 - Mavs Win
Gm 6 - Spurs Win

I've had my finger on the pulse of these Dallas Mavericks all season, and this is what I've got - a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners. When things are going their way and everybody is having fun, they play great. When they start playing great, they start slacking off. When they play terrible, they slump their shoulders and pout like some fucking 6 year olds.

Granted, the new Mavs have given this team a small level of toughness never seen before in Dallas. But even still, this is a team that, when you punch them in the mouth, they'll back down like KG to anybody over 6 feet tall.

Enjoy the 2nd round, Spurs fans.

I agree.

The Spurs, particularly Duncan and Ginobili, will get plenty of rest going into game one. I expect those two, already playing very well, to have excellent game one's and I'd even go as far as to say that, at their absolute best, they're the two best players in the series. Because of consistency/durability, I could easily see the case for Nowitzki over Ginobili, but keep in mind I said "at their absolute best", which is what I think we'll see from Duncan and Ginobili in game one. Ginobili in particular is going to be fired up, having not played in the playoffs last season.

I think the Spurs jump out to sizable early lead and withstand enough Mavs runs to hold on. Similar to game one of the Suns series in '07. Though I'd feel more confident if I knew Hill would not only play, but resemble the player he's been the vast majority of the season.

Winning game one on the road sets up everything nicely. After game two, the teams play ever other day. The Mavs backs will be against the wall, so they'll probably win game two in convincing fashion and Pop will probably pull the plug early and save the key players for games three and four, which become, not must wins both, but obviously highly important.

The Spurs will realize this and capitalize on the opportunity, while also atoning for the game two embarrassment. Look for the Spurs to blitz the Mavs early in game three and never look back.

Game four becomes the penultimate game of the series. Either the Spurs end this game in firm control of the series or the Mavs draw even and regain home court. Tightly contested this will be and probably the best game of the series. Nip and tuck throughout, look for Duncan and Ginobili to carry the Spurs in crunch time and narrowly hang on for the win.

Game five, similar to game two (only even more pressing because a loss here and they're officially done), the Mavs will own. Pop, knowing that game six is in two days and is far more important to the Spurs than is game five, again pulls the plug early. Now, all of the pressure falls to the Spurs, as they're now expected to advance.

Which brings us to game six. The Spurs will treat this game like a game seven, which means all of the key players will play as many minutes as it takes to get the job done and it also means that Duncan and Ginobili again come up big in the clutch. Refusing to be denied, the Spurs outlast the Mavs in a well played game by both teams.

I expect this, Celtics/Heat, Jazz/Nuggets and possibly Lakers/Thunder to be the best first round series.

[Findog]

I agree.

The Spurs, particularly Duncan and Ginobili, will get plenty of rest going into game one. I expect those two, already playing very well, to have excellent game one's and I'd even go as far as to say that, at their absolute best, they're the two best players in the series. Because of consistency/durability, I could easily see the case for Nowitzki over Ginobili, but keep in mind I said "at their absolute best", which is what I think we'll see from Duncan and Ginobili in game one. Ginobili in particular is going to be fired up, having not played in the playoffs last season.

I think the Spurs jump out to sizable early lead and withstand enough Mavs runs to hold on. Similar to game one of the Suns series in '07. Though I'd feel more confident if I knew Hill would not only play, but resemble the player he's been the vast majority of the season.

Winning game one on the road sets up everything nicely. After game two, the teams play ever other day. The Mavs backs will be against the wall, so they'll probably win game two in convincing fashion and Pop will probably pull the plug early and save the key players for games three and four, which become, not must wins both, but obviously highly important.

The Spurs will realize this and capitalize on the opportunity, while also atoning for the game two embarrassment. Look for the Spurs to blitz the Mavs early in game three and never look back.

Game four becomes the penultimate game of the series. Either the Spurs end this game in firm control of the series or the Mavs draw even and regain home court. Tightly contested this will be and probably the best game of the series. Nip and tuck throughout, look for Duncan and Ginobili to carry the Spurs in crunch time and narrowly hang on for the win.

Game five, similar to game two (only even more pressing because a loss here and they're officially done), the Mavs will own. Pop, knowing that game six is in two days and is far more important to the Spurs than is game five, again pulls the plug early. Now, all of the pressure falls to the Spurs, as they're now expected to advance.

Which brings us to game six. The Spurs will treat this game like a game seven, which means all of the key players will play as many minutes as it takes to get the job done and it also means that Duncan and Ginobili again come up big in the clutch. Refusing to be denied, the Spurs outlast the Mavs in a well played game by both teams.

I expect this, Celtics/Heat, Jazz/Nuggets and possibly Lakers/Thunder to be the best first round series.

What the fuck is this? Spurs fan fiction? You're not just calling the Spurs in six, you're actually writing a story to accompany your pick?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The biggest question mark is George Hill. Hopefully he can feel 100% by game 1 or at least game 2.

Also, is Bogans gonna be able to do a decent job defending anyone on the Mavericks? He's been playing much better as the season wore on, but the Spurs can't afford any players to be dead weight (ie Mason, possibly Bonner, even if they only get limited minutes) because the Mavs are stacked.

I think the Mavs can play good defense, and the difference between Spurs offense and Mavs offense will over come the difference between the two teams defensively.

Spurs have to attack the rim at all costs and get more FTA than the Mavs in this series....and actually make 'em

Mavs in 6.

[NRHector]

In Manu I trust

[anonoftheinternets]

lol at this rate with everyone giving their picks ... i expect rick kamla to drop in any second.

[TFloss32]

Charles Barkley really put this Spurs/Mavs series into perspective the other night. With two epic playoff choke jobs under their belt, the most talented, balanced roster they've had in years and finally being favored over the Spurs in playoff series....Barkley said Mark Cuban might actually kill himself if they lose in the first round to San Antonio :lol. Gotta love Chuck!

The Spurs have nothing to lose and it will be fun to watch them as the clear underdog for the first time in many years. Good luck, Dallas.

[Ghazi]

SA is not a "clear" underdog. They're getting plenty of love.

[ElNono]

SA is not a "clear" underdog. They're getting plenty of love.

If they're playing the 2010 NBA champs, they're clearly the underdogs...

[Obstructed_View]

SA is not a "clear" underdog. They're getting plenty of love.

I agree. I also think Pop's not going to be able to crawl completely out of his "if you can't win with this team" line if the Spurs are bounced out of the first round again.

[rayray2k8]

Will be a great series to watch..hopefully as exciting as 2006?

Oh god I hope not.. That series shorten my life span. :lol

[tlongII]

I think the Spurs will win in 7.

[Budkin]

The problem is that the Mavs play at the highest level possible whenever they play the Spurs. Dirk is always Dirk, but Jason Terry goes nuts (and I don't mean Finley's) every time we play them in the playoffs. The match ups are always terrible for us because of the way Pop plays. The fact that Rick Carlisle outcoached Pop last year was just ridiculous, even though we didn't have Manu. Now that he's back, I expect a tough fought series, this time with a different result. Manu is the key. Spurs in 6.

[badfish22]

Bill Simmons picked the Mavs to reach the finals.


ROUND 1
Cavs over Bulls in 4
Magic over Bobcats in 7
Hawks over Bucks in 5
Heat over Celtics in 7
Lakers over OKC in 6
Mavs over Spurs in 6
Suns over Blazers in 5
Jazz over Nuggets in 7

CONFERENCE SEMIS
Cavs over Heat in 5
Magic over Hawks in 6
Jazz over Lakers in 6
Mavs over Suns in 7

CONFERENCE FINALS
Cavs over Magic in 5
Mavs over Jazz in 6

FINALS
Cavs over Mavs in 6

[Blake]

Bill Simmons picked the Mavs to reach the finals.


ROUND 1
Cavs over Bulls in 4
Magic over Bobcats in 7
Hawks over Bucks in 5
Heat over Celtics in 7
Lakers over OKC in 6
Mavs over Spurs in 6
Suns over Blazers in 5
Jazz over Nuggets in 7

CONFERENCE SEMIS
Cavs over Heat in 5
Magic over Hawks in 6
Jazz over Lakers in 6
Mavs over Suns in 7

CONFERENCE FINALS
Cavs over Magic in 5
Mavs over Jazz in 6

FINALS
Cavs over Mavs in 6

he also picked Jazz over Lakers in 2nd round.

[badfish22]

He also picked Jazz over Nuggets
He also picked Hawks over Bucks
He also picked Heat over Celtics

[anonoftheinternets]

He also picked Jazz over Nuggets
He also picked Hawks over Bucks
He also picked Heat over Celtics

yea but he picked the jazz over the lakers in 6 :wakeup

[petee]

The biggest challenge for Dallas is defensive consistency. There will be a couple games where they will shoot 40-45% and will need to defend in order to have a chance to win.
you always need solid defense to win a game in playoffs, not only when you shoot poorly. but the fact is Mavs don't seem to have the necessary reactants to make up the synthetic products they need. Marion and Kidd both used to play wonderful defense but nowadays they are seemingly more useful at offensive end, and they are the best defenders Dallas have got.

[monosylab1k]

There goes home court advantage out the window.

[Amarelooms]

If Mavs lose game 3....it's Spurs in 6....if they win then it's going 7 and pick-em

:elephant

[monosylab1k]

can mods plz change the thread title to "Spurs in 5"

[monosylab1k]

That's the most cynical, pessimistic, worst-case scenario for the Mavs

okay.

[BlackSwordsMan]

lol thinking dallas barely has a chance

lol moron

lol spurfan

:toast

[monosylab1k]

Bill Simmons picked the Mavs to reach the finals.

:lol that's about par for the course with him.

[Obstructed_View]

:lol that's about par for the course with him.

Isn't he the guy who hates the Spurs because Tim Duncan should have been a Celtic?

[monosylab1k]

Isn't he the guy who hates the Spurs because Tim Duncan should have been a Celtic?

yep that's him :lol he's also the guy who said the 07 Suns were "historically good" and would give the Showtime Lakers a run for their money.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

yep that's him :lol he's also the guy who said the 07 Suns were "historically good" and would give the Showtime Lakers a run for their money.


The amount of Steve Nash/Mike D'antoni glug Bill Simmons likes to chug is one of the many reasons why I've lost interest in reading his pieces. Talking about how the run and fun Suns made him bukkake all over his TV was one thing in 2007, the fact he's still talking about makes me question his basketball knowledge when everyone knows by now that system is bound to fail.

[Johnny RIngo]

Bill Simmons picked the Mavs to reach the finals.


ROUND 1
Cavs over Bulls in 4
Magic over Bobcats in 7
Hawks over Bucks in 5
Heat over Celtics in 7
Lakers over OKC in 6
Mavs over Spurs in 6
Suns over Blazers in 5
Jazz over Nuggets in 7

CONFERENCE SEMIS
Cavs over Heat in 5
Magic over Hawks in 6
Jazz over Lakers in 6
Mavs over Suns in 7

CONFERENCE FINALS
Cavs over Magic in 5
Mavs over Jazz in 6

FINALS
Cavs over Mavs in 6

At the start of the season he picked the Spurs over the Celtics in the finals. Guess he flip-flopped after SA's disappointing season. Link to his original predictions(at the end of the article on right side):

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/part2/091023&sportCat=nba

[mavsfan1000]

Mono could be right on. Great prediction knowing Carlisle's stupid tendencies.

[monosylab1k]

unfortunately yes, the prophecy will be fulfilled.

[Spurtacus]

I'm not so sure about that game 6 is a lock for the Spurs. Tonight made it 3-2 but the Mavs played tough in each of those losses. Dampier is on the bench where he belongs. Haywood could be the difference in this series. I don't believe the Spurs will play any worse then last night...but the Mavs are still capable of coming out guns blazing.

So, don't be surprised if the Mavs take Game 6. With or without Joey Crawford as the ref.

[John Terry]

lol thinking dallas barely has a chance

lol moron

lol spurfan
leaving the 3rd item, the upper two both apply to your brother as well.

[John Terry]

mono isn't a spurfan, I mean, he's indeed a Thunder fan (or possibly a Warriors fan also, but no way is he a mavs fan).

[Ghazi]

hhmm. botched the first two games

propechy has already failed :D

[TampaDude]

Like I said before the series started, and like I laid my vBookie $$$ down...SPURS IN 6.

[monosylab1k]

yep.

[monosylab1k]

a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners

any faggots wanna dispute this now?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I've had my finger on the pulse of these Dallas Mavericks all season, and this is what I've got - a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners. When things are going their way and everybody is having fun, they play great. When they start playing great, they start slacking off. When they play terrible, they slump their shoulders and pout like some fucking 6 year olds.


Not sure how anyone could call this "cynical", based on this series it's pretty damn accurate.

[sribb43]

any faggots wanna dispute this now?

Only the blind ass homers, Dirk lovers and little girls who want to marry Dirk

[monosylab1k]

Ghazi? Findog? wanna tell me how wrong I am?

[LnGrrrR]

Shouldn't the Spurs be playing Sweet Georgia Brown over the speakers right about now?

[sribb43]

I wouldn't be shocked at all if the mavs lost... I'm most concerned with how they play at home in the series. If they continue to shit the bed at the aac with the same lackluster efforts we've seen all year, then I'm very concerned

[Ghazi]

lol @ quoting yourself on that as if its some sort of "I told you so" point.

[mavsfan1000]

I could see a disaster coming myself in this matchup. Kidd can't guard Parker or Hill. It's a mismatch. And Marion can't guard Ginobili either. That makes our best defender worthless.

[LnGrrrR]

Cmon Mavs, pull this out. The game 7 would be amazing if they can.

[picc84]

Uh oh....

[monosylab1k]

Trust me, I want to be wrong. Every bone in my body wants to be wrong.

I just don't think I am.

[LnGrrrR]

Don't see why they don't have Heywood in there... but nice to see Roddy playing after every Mav fan on this board wanted him in there. Their belief is vindicated so far.

[BlackSwordsMan]

looks like findog aint going no where

[LnGrrrR]

Roddy making some nice moves out there.

[LnGrrrR]

WHY is Dampier out there? I don't get it. Did Carlisle not watch the last game he coached?

[LnGrrrR]

Bad call there... Dirk hit his own teammate.

[The Franchise]

Damp with the stupid foul.

[BlackSwordsMan]

i didn't even see damp touch him but oh well duncan will miss it anyways

[sribb43]

Damp with the stupid foul.

Fuckin mavs give up leads so damn fast...just give him the basket

[Ghazi]

that was more or less a pussy call by the refs rather than damp doing anything wrong

[Findog]

Ghazi? Findog? wanna tell me how wrong I am?

Anybody's game right now. We'll see who wins. One thing is certain: They are NOT front-running pussies. Lacking in bball IQ at times, lazy and complacent at times, sure. But front-running pussies? Not so much.

[LnGrrrR]

Mavs need to get over this hump soon before the Spurs find their shooting touch.

[BlackSwordsMan]

too late

[monosylab1k]

Good fight Mavs. Not quite the front runners I thought. But this 4th quarter will be a curbstomping for the ages, unfortunately.

[SpursIndonesia]

LOL, another great prediction by Mono. :D