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pensive
04-15-2010, 09:46 AM
The questions, the skepticism – the fear – this is what made Manu Ginobili (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3380/;_ylt=AuF.HNVX8p5REGESW4cdA9yezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3380/news;_ylt=AgW7_1wyYoL0wSBaPOAD.JOezIx4) burn. He felt it from within his own organization, from the opposing defenders who nudged closer to him, from the reporters who wanted to know how he was feeling. Everyone, it seemed, had lost faith. Their eyes said as much, even if their lips didn’t.
He’s not the same.
On a few of the tougher nights, Ginobili wondered, too, and perhaps that hurt worst of all. His career had stretched from Argentina to Italy to Texas, delivering him three NBA championships, an Olympic gold medal and assorted other European titles, but there had been so many games, so many collisions. His left foot was the first to fail him, initially in the 2008 playoffs, then in the Olympics later that summer. Surgery followed. Once he began to find his game again late last season, he injured the right foot.


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So Ginobili trudged forward this season, hoping to recapture what he had lost. The weeks went by and, still, he couldn’t find his burst. He’d walk off the court, shoulders sagging, muttering to himself in Spanish. This was also true: His head needed fixing as much as his body. He and his wife were expecting twins and his impending free agency continued to stare at them. Having long expected to be with the San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/;_ylt=Al9Kf3ZwXFD.6H9MxkgRgTOezIx4) through the end of his career, he slowly convinced himself he’d have to play elsewhere. All of it weighed on him.
“The thing that bothered me this whole time,” Ginobili said, “was people doubting me I could do it.”
Looking back, maybe it was foolish to question him. Through his eight years in San Antonio, Ginobili had lifted the Spurs through all those end-of-game, pressure-cooker moments. Resurrecting himself might have been his greatest comeback yet. It took five months, but he has again made believers of them all, and that explains more than anything why the Spurs decided to give him a contract extension that will pay nearly $40 million over the next three years.
When Ginobili’s healthy, when he’s playing as he has over the past couple months, isn’t anything possible?
The Spurs will tell themselves that as they begin the playoffs on the road for the first time since Tim Duncan’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3173/;_ylt=Au0OkDdXRFgcXLc6QPdhO9uezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3173/news;_ylt=AtdNYJ1HG4BpcVLMfSeuKzeezIx4) rookie season. Facing the deep and talented Dallas Mavericks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/dal/;_ylt=AhY8bhrogcEDFr0MX6QWKyqezIx4), they’re underdogs to even make it out of the first round. Still, there’s a sense of hope that was missing a year ago, and that comes from the player who wore a sports coat throughout last year’s postseason. Ginobili’s passion, his competitiveness, spreads through a roster. When he believes, they all do.
This, too, is why the Spurs ignored industry logic and extended Ginobili rather than wait until summer, when they could have assessed their roster after the playoffs. They gave Ginobili the maximum they could for a three-year extension, all of it guaranteed, and that carries risks. Ginobili turns 33 in July, has a recent history of injuries and the Spurs can’t stop him from playing in this summer’s FIBA World Championship or even the 2012 Olympics, if he desires. If the Spurs could be sure they’d remain a title contender, no one would have blinked. But this is a team that could be scheduling tee times in two weeks. Wasn’t it time to start planning for the future?
For these Spurs, the future is forever now. If they’re going to fall from the ranks of the league’s elite – if they’re already falling – they’ll do so clinging to the back of one of the players who helped carry them to the top. Duncan has long been the franchise’s old soul, the rock upon which its four championships were built. But for much of the past decade, Ginobili has given the Spurs their fire, their heart. Even if the Spurs continue to transition to a younger team, Ginobili will guide and teach. He’s too valuable to let walk away. He earned this contract.
Few among the Spurs saw this coming, even as recently as January. The team looked equal parts too old and too young, a miscast collection of underperformers. Nearly half the roster was either sweating the trade deadline or hoping to be shipped out.
“We’re not a team,” one Spur said then. “Not even close.”
Privately, the Spurs knew any improvement would have to start with Ginobili. “He just seemed off,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich says now. Even as Ginobili’s spirit looked willing, his body often did not. One night in Oklahoma City, he dove 5 feet out of bounds, arms and legs extended, to save a deflected pass that led to the winning basket. He also missed all 10 of his shots that same night, creating this dilemma for the franchise: What do you pay a player who refuses to let you lose even when his skills appear to be eroding?
These were the tough questions the Spurs asked themselves. The answers didn’t come until Tony Parker (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3527/;_ylt=Avb_tjoEOdhiIxqLCke0r0aezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3527/news;_ylt=AliH7d95VWa3cIBQ22RB32yezIx4) went down. Then, the Spurs gave the ball to Ginobili and asked him to save their season. He scored 38 points the following game. Within the past three weeks, he has led them to convincing victories over the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/;_ylt=AmrSWOrMR9s5GwVypkgvBlKezIx4), Boston Celtics (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/bos/;_ylt=Aof6cyZnST_b1xCwoDU5TZaezIx4), Orlando Magic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/orl/;_ylt=AlkijvLBzdRPwcQIT05zKQiezIx4), Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/;_ylt=AvNt.0mJlBtO3u1HmWgyjiqezIx4) and Denver Nuggets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/den/;_ylt=AtLehqUIKdv9UO9rmdMShWKezIx4). He has regained his swagger and explosiveness, barreling relentlessly into Dwight Howard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/;_ylt=Ak14qyme8laZzDqRr75xmlWezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/news;_ylt=AseuKVdBY9nGYtpXEm1Evw6ezIx4) one night, holding his ground against Ron Artest (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3339/;_ylt=AkGoKQhggaYDzCgWbYVp_m.ezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3339/news;_ylt=Am7EhqYJAV6TZUIFOSw1WWmezIx4) the next.
“He’s … different,” the Thunder’s Kevin Durant (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4244/;_ylt=AgSy9E2UkzQ.yHZ8VpLIaLSezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4244/news;_ylt=AgDpqqLkRnR.s9WPpBRwD3qezIx4) told reporters, and he should know: Ginobili had just run him down to block his dunk at the rim.
The Spurs realized as much shortly after signing Ginobili. In a game early in his rookie season, he sped down the court on the break, wrapped the ball around his waist twice and zipped a pass … into the third row of fans. Popovich angrily confronted him in the locker room afterward.
“What was that?” Popovich demanded.
Ginobili looked at his coach and shrugged. “It is who I am,” he said, forever endearing himself to his teammates.
Long ago, some Spurs came up with their own term for Ginobili’s slack-jawed exploits: head-shakers. “We didn’t see many of them early in the season,” one team official said recently. “Now we’re getting about three a game.”
Ginobili says he always knew he’d find his magic, but even those closest to him weren’t quite so sure. Ginobili will admit this much: “I didn’t know whether people would trust me anymore.”
Not only do they trust, they also follow. These Spurs of the past six weeks belong to Ginobili as much as anyone. Popovich spent much of the season searching for a winning combination, and he found one when Parker broke a finger and Ginobili moved into the starting lineup. Ginobili has made Richard Jefferson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3523/;_ylt=Am1tTST9GGPiWezwXYeZPuuezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3523/news;_ylt=Al.LKKGT1jrO6J_ggD2KbJ2ezIx4) productive. He has made DeJuan Blair (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4642/;_ylt=AihmaSEJfiebc2MzMwCR2NiezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4642/news;_ylt=Ao7RaHIefiBGkEHkEAEgJreezIx4) better. More than anything, that explains why Parker returned as a reserve.
George Hill’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4488/;_ylt=AmYy.dqfMlIniajHgZ3z8AeezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4488/news;_ylt=AmJavzM9f3m8VnrrAzxV8HWezIx4) injury could change that, as could a single loss. Ginobili knows better than anyone that Popovich’s rotations are much like the weather in South Texas: here today, gone tomorrow. As well as the Spurs have played of late, they’re still a seventh seed. If they drop the first two games, something will give. In the past, it has usually been Ginobili’s starting job.
And if the Mavericks again eliminate the Spurs in the opening round? This summer could bring more change.
Signing Tiago Splitter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306/;_ylt=ApYzItrnkTPbgvuyskboDzqezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306/news;_ylt=Anaifoj7.5bXgr0J94waUsSezIx4), the team’s 2007 first-round pick, is a start. Spurs officials are increasingly confident they can lure Splitter from Europe, and the 7-foot center’s scrappy game could fit them the way Anderson Varejao’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3847/;_ylt=AkWPw3L7.Zq59_WX9_p0MvyezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3847/news;_ylt=At8dnYZJqFBgWs7GlcS8ubOezIx4) fits in Cleveland. Still, Ginobili’s contract will limit the Spurs’ flexibility, so they may need to get creative to make any other substantial upgrades. If the team’s confidence in Hill continues to grow, then assessing Parker’s trade value is always an option.
This is based on opinion more than fact, and there’s a reason for that: Parker is just one year removed from carrying the Spurs. Ask the Detroit Pistons (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/det/;_ylt=AsNLojquYHLqBRjxIwWIt.uezIx4) how difficult it is to replace a franchise point guard. They shipped off Chauncey Billups (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3174/;_ylt=ArGjkUyzitEvdbVUTJFiVAyezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3174/news;_ylt=AsOkcKKlMruBWBlcjfTfEDWezIx4), thinking Rodney Stuckey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4293/;_ylt=AtQMfzz7X1JKhDVimfN9T.SezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4293/news;_ylt=AqNlih4r0zH5RQzXXIv_NuCezIx4) was nearly ready to step into Billups’ role.
These also are the types of decisions a transitioning franchise must make. The Spurs don’t know what the summer will bring – or even the next two weeks. They open the playoffs on the road against a deeper, longer, stronger opponent. The Mavericks could again quickly usher them into vacation.
But the Spurs also realize that unlike a year ago, they now have Ginobili. They’ve leaned on him long enough to know this much: Anything is possible.
Johnny Ludden is the NBA editor for Yahoo! Sports. Send Johnny a question or comment (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/feedback;_ylt=Ar5qpyW4ObFxHKpezpvRkb6ezIx4?author= Johnny+Ludden) for potential use in a future column or webcast.

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MannyIsGod
04-15-2010, 10:08 AM
I love Ludden articles.

I'm surprised he brought up Tony being traded because I'm frankly surprised that this is so widespread of an opinion. I am glad he ads the caveat of it being opinion and then brings up the Billups situation because that is exactly what I always think of when I consider trading Parker.

I love George Hill, but I simply believe the talent difference is so huge between him and Parker that I can't make a deal and expect to get back a player of Parker's caliber. I just don't see how that would work out in the Spurs favor.

The more I think about it the more I understand why people believe the Spurs should possibly be open to such deals but I also don't see any trade that might make any sense regarding moving Parker because I doubt we receive any player who will be as effective in this system as Parker.

mando6599
04-15-2010, 10:10 AM
Great read. Ludden, we miss you here in SA.

Cane
04-15-2010, 10:13 AM
Great article.

As for Parker; teams are always looking for possible trades especially after the Pau Gasol and Antawn Jamison steals. If the Spurs fall short in the playoffs, I wouldn't be too surprised to see some big changes.

Kpowr4ever
04-15-2010, 10:40 AM
and that's why Ludden is making the big bucks for Yahoo.

Always a great read. He always seems to have his fingers on the pulse of the Spurs.

urunobili
04-15-2010, 10:49 AM
Ludden top 3 of my sports writers currently in business :tu

Man In Black
04-15-2010, 11:15 AM
Johnny's a Californian now, but South Texas is in his heart.

The Truth #6
04-15-2010, 11:32 AM
"Anything's possible!"

easjer
04-15-2010, 11:59 AM
Fantastic article.

I do think the Spurs have to be open to the possibility of trades, loath as I would be to see Parker play for anyone else. The point Ludden makes is an excellent one though - but being open doesn't equal certainty.

wildbill2u
04-15-2010, 12:36 PM
Manu's reponse during the past month has given him back his swagger. He knows he can do whatever is necessary to win. He can kill the other team in so many ways.

Not the least of which is that his confidence and stellar play inspires the rest of the team to be better and gives them confidence as well.

Ya gotta love the Argentine Assassin!

Blackjack
04-15-2010, 12:44 PM
Vintage Ludden. :tu

Great quotes ...

“The thing that bothered me this whole time,” Ginobili said, “was people doubting me I could do it.”

takes ...

Even if the Spurs continue to transition to a younger team, Ginobili will guide and teach. He’s too valuable to let walk away. He earned this contract.


Still, Ginobili’s contract will limit the Spurs’ flexibility, so they may need to get creative to make any other substantial upgrades. If the team’s confidence in Hill continues to grow, then assessing Parker’s trade value is always an option.

and always a couple of nuggets.

They gave Ginobili the maximum they could for a three-year extension, all of it guaranteed, and that carries risks.


Spurs officials are increasingly confident they can lure Splitter from Europe

rjv
04-15-2010, 12:51 PM
a spot on article. one has to wonder if the magic of manu will create an upset in this first round.

admiralsnackbar
04-15-2010, 12:57 PM
Great read. Ludden, we miss you here in SA.

And not only for his content -- our fanbase seemed more intelligent and sober with his input after each game.

carina_gino20
04-15-2010, 01:00 PM
Great article.

Anything is possible. Believe.

I wonder who said this:

“We’re not a team,” one Spur said then. “Not even close.”

admiralsnackbar
04-15-2010, 01:03 PM
“We’re not a team,” one Spur said then. “Not even close.”

Blackjack
04-15-2010, 01:27 PM
Great article.

Anything is possible. Believe.

I wonder who said this:

Manu said something similar at one point and I could definitely hear that coming from him. But, then again, he's pretty brutally honest and I'm not sure he'd ask for his comment to be off the record.

benefactor
04-15-2010, 01:33 PM
As blunt as that anonymous quote is, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Duncan. It sounds like one of his short and to the point statements.

Great article with lots of good information. It goes against the Spurs MO to guarantee a contract like that, but paying them what they paid him goes against it also. I agree with Ludden though...he has earned every penny.

BTW...if the Express-News wants to see what "intellectual property" looks like, this a prime example.

Mel_13
04-15-2010, 01:37 PM
As blunt as that anonymous quote is, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Duncan. It sounds like one of his short and to the point statements.

Great article with lots of good information. It goes against the Spurs MO to guarantee a contract like that, but paying them what they paid him goes against it also. I agree with Ludden though...he has earned every penny.

BTW...if the Express-News wants to see what "intellectual property" looks like, this a prime example.

I had the same thought.

Look at his quote just two weeks ago after the New Jersey loss:

"On paper, we seem to be a better team," Duncan sighed. "But we haven't been able to put it together. We've had a crap season so far."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/chris_mannix/04/01/spurs/index.html

Blackjack
04-15-2010, 01:37 PM
Given Ludden's relationship with the team over the years, I could definitely see that coming from Duncan and Johnny making the decision to not name him (without even being asked).

MarCowMar
04-15-2010, 01:40 PM
"In a game early in his rookie season, he sped down the court on the break, wrapped the ball around his waist twice and zipped a pass … into the third row of fans."

I want to see this!

Bender
04-15-2010, 02:10 PM
I want to see this!
yeah, I was thinking the same thing...


twice? what a showoff...! :lol

spurs10
04-15-2010, 03:10 PM
Great, inspiring article.

Bruno
04-15-2010, 03:30 PM
I'm surprised to learn that Manu's extension is fully guaranteed.

Between the RJ trade, the McDyess signing and the Manu's extension, Holt has pend a lot of money lately. Huge props to the ownership. :toast

Spurs Brazil
04-15-2010, 03:37 PM
Great read

Ludden is the best

Mark in Austin
04-15-2010, 03:40 PM
BTW...if the Express-News wants to see what "intellectual property" looks like, this a prime example.


:tu True.

xamila rey
04-15-2010, 03:43 PM
Manu in Facebook

Manu Ginobili:
Será Dallas nuevamente al final. Arrancamos el Domingo 18! Qué lindo que es esto! Ya quiero que llegue! || Dallas it is! We start on Sunday. Can't wait! This is so exciting!


I can't wait either

crc21209
04-15-2010, 03:55 PM
Great Great read by Ludden, as always...:tu

taps
04-15-2010, 04:21 PM
There are really only a couple of point guards to whom Pop would entrust the reins of his team. Hill or blair likely have to be added to get a CP3.

I think RJ is the trade option FO probably gun hard for

pjjrfan
04-15-2010, 05:18 PM
.

BTW...if the Express-News wants to see what "intellectual property" looks like, this a prime example.

:lol:lol:lol

manu the best
04-15-2010, 05:47 PM
.. good article .. as long as we have MANU anything is possible .. GO SPURS GO ..

MANU=CHAMPIONSHIP

m33p0
04-15-2010, 06:11 PM
i do hope Splitter with be in silver and black next season... and Tony still a Spur.

jcrod
04-15-2010, 06:15 PM
I love Ludden articles.

I'm surprised he brought up Tony being traded because I'm frankly surprised that this is so widespread of an opinion. I am glad he ads the caveat of it being opinion and then brings up the Billups situation because that is exactly what I always think of when I consider trading Parker.

I love George Hill, but I simply believe the talent difference is so huge between him and Parker that I can't make a deal and expect to get back a player of Parker's caliber. I just don't see how that would work out in the Spurs favor.

The more I think about it the more I understand why people believe the Spurs should possibly be open to such deals but I also don't see any trade that might make any sense regarding moving Parker because I doubt we receive any player who will be as effective in this system as Parker.

Totally agree, don't see a trade that would help the spurs. TP is still only 28 and has many more years in front of him. Shit look at Nash, Billups and Kidd. TP is in the same mode as he always wants to improve his game. Hill is not a PG and Manu can't carry much longer. It would be stupid to trade TP.

TD 21
04-15-2010, 07:57 PM
Signing Tiago Splitter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306/;_ylt=ApYzItrnkTPbgvuyskboDzqezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306/news;_ylt=Anaifoj7.5bXgr0J94waUsSezIx4), the team’s 2007 first-round pick, is a start. Spurs officials are increasingly confident they can lure Splitter from Europe, and the 7-foot center’s scrappy game could fit them the way Anderson Varejao’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3847/;_ylt=AkWPw3L7.Zq59_WX9_p0MvyezIx4)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3847/news;_ylt=At8dnYZJqFBgWs7GlcS8ubOezIx4) fits in Cleveland.

This, more than anything, caught my eye.

Typical Ludden article. He, like Harvey, gives nuggets of inside information that McDonald and Monroe just can't provide. But he also does his usual slobber fest over Ginobili, minimization of Duncan and acts like the team is mediocre and vulnerable.

Express-News
04-16-2010, 03:56 PM
As blunt as that anonymous quote is, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Duncan. It sounds like one of his short and to the point statements.

Great article with lots of good information. It goes against the Spurs MO to guarantee a contract like that, but paying them what they paid him goes against it also. I agree with Ludden though...he has earned every penny.

BTW...if the Express-News wants to see what "intellectual property" looks like, this a prime example.

:rolleyes

TD 21
04-17-2010, 06:12 PM
Found this on HoopsHype...

"Tiago Splitter will either go to the NBA or stay with Baskonia," club president Josean Querejeta said (http://www.noticiasdealava.com/2010/04/17/baskonia/splitter-caja-laboral-o-nba)

Maybe that's why...


Spurs officials are increasingly confident they can lure Splitter from Europe.

So much for Real Madrid offering him major money and luring him.