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nkdlunch
04-20-2010, 12:20 PM
In previous years the mavericks had more talent and speed than the Spurs, but the spurs were smarter. With Jason Kidd, the Mavs are the smarter team now. Will the Spurs be able to beat a more talented, faster, smarter team?

:depressed

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/381054-jason-kidds-last-stand-another-maverick-nightmare-for-the-spurs

Jason Kidd's Last Stand: Another Maverick Nightmare for the Spurs
by Robert Kleeman Written on April 19, 2010
Ronald Martinez/Getty Images The San Antonio Spurs can take solace in a few things after Sunday night's 100-94 loss to the Dallas Mavericks.

Dirk Nowitzki will not make 12 of his 14 shots again in this series. If Antonio McDyess plays the same stick-to-the-hip defense in Game Two, Nowitzki will miss more than a few attempts.

The idea that Bruce Bowen somehow manhandled the German forward is a misnomer. No team in the history of the world has an answer for Nowitzki when he shoots as he did Sunday.

Just as the Spurs have no one who can stop Nowitzki, the Mavs have no one to stop Tim Duncan. Brendan Haywood will play the McDyess role, but Duncan can find ways to beat whatever defensive scheme Rick Carlisle throws his way.

Maybe Manu Ginobili was right. The Spurs were right there, they had a chance. They will get the same chance for the duration of the series.

Popovich aired out Richard Jefferson at the podium without saying his name.

"We had a lot of guys play like dogs tonight."

By "a lot," he means one athletic forward making $14 million, brought in last summer to make the difference in a series like this.

More from Jefferson will help San Antonio's cause.

He could have been talking about George Hill, but the hobbled guard clearly was not ready for playoff action. He tweaked the ankle he sprained in L.A a few weeks ago by stepping on the foot of a cameraman in Wednesday's regular-season finale.

The positives of defeat end there.

There can be no question, now, that Popovich erred in resting Manu Ginobili and Duncan last week.

Win that game, and you play the Phoenix Suns. If the Portland Trail Blazers, missing Greg Oden, Joel Pryzbilla, and Brandon Roy, beat the league's hottest team on the road, imagine what the Spurs could have done at U.S. Airways Center.

Psychology means everything. The Spurs own the Suns in the playoffs, and nothing could have changed that.

In submitting to his injury paranoia, did Popovich walk into his version of such a mismatch?

Wednesday's game was also within reach, even with Duncan and Ginobili watching from the locker room. Rookie Dejuan Blair scored 27 points and hauled down 23 rebounds.

A tip shot with less than three minutes left pulled the Spurs to within six.

They would get no closer.

The same could be said of Sunday's affair. The Spurs outscored the Mavs in the paint 50 to 32, shot 50 percent, and lost.

Popovich groaned afterward about his team's 17 turnovers, which lead to 20 Dallas points. The Mavs owned the edge in offensive rebounding, too. A big one.

The Game One factor that should concern Popovich most is a player who scored 13 points. He also handed out 11 dimes and grabbed eight rebounds.

Popovich and R.C. Buford offered $90 million to this guy in 2003. Now, the coach should want to pay that much just to get out of this damning matchup.

The Jason Kidd the Spurs so admired after facing him in the NBA Finals now makes the Mavs as unbeatable in the I-35 rivalry as ever.

When Mark Cuban pulled the trigger on the trade that sent Devin Harris to New Jersey, Tony Parker cheered.

Others in the Spurs organization likely did, too.

Harris possessed the speed to negate Parker, and he also proved a bugaboo on the offensive end.

The Mavericks had just traded for a mid-30s veteran who had no chance of hanging with Parker. He would be toasted quicker than a loaf of Mrs. Bairds bread.

Sunday night, the Spurs saw the other side of the deal, the one that could tilt this matchup in Dallas' favor for the rest of Duncan's career.

Kidd can do things Harris never could. He sees the court like an X-Ray machine sees luggage.

Harris' boasted all the court vision of a blind man in traffic. Harris would throw up ill-advised 20-footers when his team needed to run clock.

He passed to teammates who weren't open. He bowled over set defenders.

His late-game foolishness often earned him a spot on the bench next to Avery Johnson.

The Mavs have as many weapons now as they did in 2006. Kidd knows how to use them, and one play highlighted this.

Kidd pushed the ball up the court and passed to Nowitzki who then passed back to his wide-open point guard. He could have taken the three-pointer, and no one would have criticized him.

He had, after all, just hit two backbreaking treys in a row.

Instead, he spotted Jason Terry with space on the wing and passed to him.

Swoosh.

Kidd knows who needs the ball and how to get it to them.

What the Mavs' lost with Harris speed they gained back with Kidd's acumen.

The last thing Popovich needed was the Mavericks to get smarter.

Kidd controlled the game with his newfound dead-eye perimeter shooting and his quarterback reads of the Spur defense.

If he continues to make threes with Parker's hand inches from his teeth, the Spurs should count on a short series.

Duncan poured in 27 points and made his usual opening statement. Ginobili produced 27 points in his trumpeted return to the playoffs.

Parker, still recovering from his month off after a hand fracture, scored 18 points.

The Mavs had answers for everything. Good ones.

Kidd, 37, begun his last stand in fine fashion. He cannot play at this level for eternity, and everyone from Nowitzki to Caron Butler knows it.

That might explain why fewer in the Dallas supporting cast played like dogs. This might be Kidd's final chance to win the elusive title that would complete his Hall of Fame career.

Nowitzki does not hesitate when he names the real owner of this matchup.

"They have four rings, and we don't," he told reporters.

He has never played better, and he should thank Kidd more than anyone else.

The Spurs best in this series might not be good enough.

If Hill cannot regain his pre-injury form, and if Jefferson fails to get on track, San Antonio is in trouble.

Popovich must figure out how to neutralize one of his players. Avery Johnson's coaching impacted the 2006 series.

He knew the Spurs as well as anyone on the San Antonio bench did.

Now, the coach comes face to face again with the floor genius he coveted in the early part of the 2000s.

Parker and Ginobili can combine to make the same passes, but Matt Bonner, Roger Mason Jr., Jefferson, Hill, and Keith Bogans must convert the open looks.

Mason continues to wear a splint on his shooting hand. Hill has not recovered from his sprained ankle. Bogans has never been a consistent shooter. Bonner and Jefferson are wild cards not worth betting the house.

Popovich did not play pick-your-opponent last week, but maybe he should have. A matchup with the still defenseless Phoenix Suns, who allowed Andre Miller to match his playoff career-high with 31 points, looks more appealing by the day.

The Spurs would be on their way to another first-round triumph.

Popovich, instead, seems to operate with the delusion of Mike D'Antoni. He still likes his team's chances against the Mavericks, just as D'Antoni and Steve Nash kept beckoning the Spurs to their own detriment.

Doesn't he see the problem? This isn't about adjustments, or dogs, or missed items on the scouting report.

The Spurs could win 20 in a row, and the Mavs could lose 20 in a row. Dallas could still win.

When the Mavericks ousted the Spurs in last year's playoffs, they did so with no momentum and an owner willing to ship out everyone not named Nowitzki if the losing continued.

When the Mavericks won 112-103 in San Antonio earlier this year, they did so in between 30-plus point losses to the Pau Gasol-less L.A. Lakers and the Denver Nuggets.

Maybe the Spurs should want Kidd and Harris to swap places a second time.

Popovich walked right into the climax of "Kidd's last stand," a film about another Spurs opening round death and one icon's final pursuit of gold hardware.

When it ends, no one on the Spurs will cheer.

DesignatedT
04-20-2010, 12:24 PM
Spurs have to take advantage of Kidd's Defense. Manu+Tony whoever he is guarding need to attack him and put him in his place defensively. there is no way he can stay with those guys.

That and stop leaving him open for 3's. He is going to get his assist and get people involved... He has been doing that his whole career. Don't give him that open 3 and his offense is now gone.

LoneStarState'sPride
04-20-2010, 01:00 PM
Spurs have to take advantage of Kidd's Defense. Manu+Tony whoever he is guarding need to attack him and put him in his place defensively. there is no way he can stay with those guys.

That and stop leaving him open for 3's. He is going to get his assist and get people involved... He has been doing that his whole career. Don't give him that open 3 and his offense is now gone.

This.

anonoftheinternets
04-20-2010, 01:02 PM
nice article, but lets get real here, people know what kidd is capable of and more importantly what he is NOT...

kace
04-20-2010, 01:05 PM
Spurs have to take advantage of Kidd's Defense. Manu+Tony whoever he is guarding need to attack him and put him in his place defensively. there is no way he can stay with those guys.

That and stop leaving him open for 3's. He is going to get his assist and get people involved... He has been doing that his whole career. Don't give him that open 3 and his offense is now gone.

exactly.

we should be able to attack Kidd erytime with a lineup with three of these four players: manu, tony, hill, RJ. the problem is that RJ is sucking badly and Hill is hampered.

Same thing with Dirk. We need two low posts threats to make him defend: Tim and i only see Blair to be the 2nd one. Let's try this kid considerind dice isn't a low post threat, Bonner either and ian won't see any PT.

beachwood
04-20-2010, 01:12 PM
Spurs have to take advantage of Kidd's Defense. Manu+Tony whoever he is guarding need to attack him and put him in his place defensively. there is no way he can stay with those guys.

That and stop leaving him open for 3's. He is going to get his assist and get people involved... He has been doing that his whole career. Don't give him that open 3 and his offense is now gone.

Kidd is not the fastest or quickest player out there, but he's a pretty solid and smart defender. Manu made the mistake of constantly trying to lob lazy passes by Kidd and he deflected a lot of them. The Spurs can't underestimate Kidd's defense. He's no slouch.

I have to admire Kidd for adjusting his game with age and adding that 3pt shot. He's deadly out there and has the toughness and confidence to make those in the playoffs, unlike Bogans, Mason, Bonner, and RJ.

FalleNxWiZarDx
04-20-2010, 01:26 PM
Hill > kidd

sefant77
04-20-2010, 01:31 PM
Hill > kidd

:lol

jkidd2
04-20-2010, 01:33 PM
Hill > kidd
thats a good joke

jack0fspeed
04-20-2010, 01:48 PM
There's no doubt that Kidd brings an element that the Mavs have been sorely lacking: BBIQ. His ability to knock down open 3-pointers has also been instrumental to this team's success.

But an often overlooked aspect of Kidd's game is his defense. He's been on the NBA all-defensive team 9 times. And though his best days are clearly past, he's still got the quickness, size, and savvy to guard most SGs and bigger PGs in the league. It was no accident that Kidd was playing Ginobili down the stretch in game 1.

In general Kidd is not a guy you want to go at. Even if it looks like there is a mismatch, Kidd often finds ways to make plays ... especially when it matters most.

fifteenth man
04-20-2010, 01:50 PM
Hill > kidd


Oh wow. This is my first time on a Spurs board. I thought the Mavs fans were the kings of overrating their own players.

Kidd won't guard Manu till the end of the game, like he did in game 1. And he'll slow him down at the end of games, like he did in game 1.

antgomez2009
04-20-2010, 01:56 PM
Bunch of Whine-o's on this board!

com'on!

Dirk was near perfect to say the least, and our guys where def. a half step slow! if dirk misses 3 or 4 more then he missed on Sunday, the game changes! Kidd will not continue to make the 3's like he has, and Tim wont drop 3 good passes! All we need is jefferson to contribute at least 10 points, and play D. hill will show up in game 2. The Calls were clearly going to the Home team!!!...Im sure this will change in game 2 as well!

Dallas Fans are to comfortable with this win! I say the spurs got them were they want to them too!

Game 2 will def. be different! look for the Spurs to come out gunning!

Findog
04-20-2010, 02:01 PM
Brendan Haywood will play the McDyess role, but Duncan can find ways to beat whatever defensive scheme Rick Carlisle throws his way.

Huh? Who wrote this shit?

Duncan: 7-14 FGA guarded by Dampier, 5-6 guarded by Haywood.

elbamba
04-20-2010, 02:02 PM
Kidds only defense is to use his hands and try to steal a bad pass. he has no defense other than that. If old Tony returns he should torch Kidd for 30 points. Mavs have no interior defense, just look at the points in the paint. Manu was scoring layups at will, Toney needs to do this too.

Kidd is not the player that worries me. The guy we have no answer to is Butler. Jefferson has to step up and make him work. Boggans will not cut it and neither will Mason. It is on Jefferson. Spurs need to get the ball to him early moving to the basket so he can get some early confidence. Do that and they will be in better shape to win tomorrow.

elbamba
04-20-2010, 02:04 PM
Oh wow. This is my first time on a Spurs board. I thought the Mavs fans were the kings of overrating their own players.

Kidd won't guard Manu till the end of the game, like he did in game 1. And he'll slow him down at the end of games, like he did in game 1.

The guy who posted that is a Cavs fan.

jkidd2
04-20-2010, 02:06 PM
im sorry but whoever thinks that George Hill is better than Jason Kidd clearly has no clue about basketball. Hill is really good but to say he is better than Kidd is just laughable

DPG21920
04-20-2010, 02:17 PM
Kidd defended very well. If TP & Hill are going to look as slow as they did, Kidd can guard them.

TheRealCB
04-20-2010, 02:51 PM
Hill > kidd

Kidd>Shaq + Varejao + Jamison + Williams

DesignatedT
04-20-2010, 05:40 PM
Kidd is not the fastest or quickest player out there, but he's a pretty solid and smart defender. Manu made the mistake of constantly trying to lob lazy passes by Kidd and he deflected a lot of them. The Spurs can't underestimate Kidd's defense. He's no slouch.

I have to admire Kidd for adjusting his game with age and adding that 3pt shot. He's deadly out there and has the toughness and confidence to make those in the playoffs, unlike Bogans, Mason, Bonner, and RJ.

I agree he has great hands and a very high basketball IQ which helps him out but i was referring more to speed. Tony,Manu,Hill should be able to dribble right past him causing those big men to step up or leave our guys for an open layup.

We started to see tony do it late in the game when he got those 2 tear drop layups that we hadn't seen in some time... Those are the types of plays Tony needs to make and can make.. just needs to stay aggressive and its been difficult since we want to ball in manu's hands the whole game now.