View Full Version : Fuck Carlisle
monosylab1k
04-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Seriously, he won't even give Roddy garbage time minutes? Fuck this asshole.
mavsfan1000
04-21-2010, 11:13 PM
I hate him. Fire his fucking ass.
The Cougar
04-21-2010, 11:14 PM
Seriously he gave NAJERA freakin NAJERA minutes over him, when he came in the second time I thought Haywood must have been injured
mavs>spurs2
04-21-2010, 11:15 PM
yeah, the spurs basically petrified the shit out of us with "scramble" defense.
where was the fucking ball movement? we should have gotten a layup every single time
monosylab1k
04-21-2010, 11:17 PM
where was the fucking ball movement? we should have gotten a layup every single time
Dirk was more interested in bricking wide open jumpers.
IronMexican
04-21-2010, 11:21 PM
What the fuck is up with the mavs and jumpers. Terry and dirk had chances fos many layups and they would rather shoot a jumper.
Mono is such a front running pussy
mavs>spurs2
04-21-2010, 11:24 PM
What the fuck is up with the mavs and jumpers. Terry and dirk had chances fos many layups and they would rather shoot a jumper.
same question i ask with you and radio head. you have the chance to listen to decent music yet you pick that shit to listen to every day, over and over
timvpimp
04-21-2010, 11:25 PM
Great thread :tu
IronMexican
04-21-2010, 11:28 PM
same question i ask with you and radio head. you have the chance to listen to decent music yet you pick that shit to listen to every day, over and over
:lol
timvpimp
04-21-2010, 11:29 PM
Mono is such a front running pussy
I agree that most Mavs fans are sheer retards but you have to given mono an exemption. mono predicted the Mavs would lost a game at home, which just happened. The only discrepancy is he predicted the game 1 a loss which turned out a win, but I don't think that gives enough fact to refute mono's brilliant gospels.
in2deep
04-21-2010, 11:29 PM
don't fuck with the cable guy :(
I agree that most Mavs fans are sheer retards but you have to given mono an exemption. mono predicted the Mavs would lost a game at home, which just happened. The only discrepancy is he predicted the game 1 a loss which turned out a win, but I don't think that gives enough fact to refute mono's brilliant gospels.
Ok...he's realistic, but he was acting like a giddy bitch after the win on Sunday. He was talking mad shit, starting threads, getting banned from upstairs and acting the Mavs had just won the finals (beating the spurs is apparently their finals).
He's just a front runner.
mavs>spurs2
04-21-2010, 11:43 PM
^ don't respond to timvpimp, it's just chinese rogue being an idiot on the internets again
Danny.Zhu
04-22-2010, 01:33 AM
I thought Mavs has always been a jumpers' team...
baseline bum
04-22-2010, 02:48 AM
Why was Najera shooting threes? I hope to see more of that in game 3.
BRHornet45
04-22-2010, 02:51 AM
son plz watch your mouth there are kids in here. plz don't curse in the thread titles. thx
ForeignFan
04-22-2010, 04:57 AM
Indeed Carlisle should give Roddy some PT in particular when Tony is playing, to see if he can defend him
Flux451
04-22-2010, 05:06 AM
awesome game
Muser
04-22-2010, 07:44 AM
More JJ!!
monosylab1k
04-22-2010, 09:53 AM
Ok...he's realistic, but he was acting like a giddy bitch after the win on Sunday. He was talking mad shit, starting threads, getting banned from upstairs and acting the Mavs had just won the finals (beating the spurs is apparently their finals).
He's just a front runner.
I see you're still grasping the whole concept of trolling.
clambake
04-22-2010, 09:58 AM
i can't understand why he won't play this guy. they should be thinking more about next season.
Brazil
04-22-2010, 10:25 AM
for me playing Rodrigue worth a look especially on TP or Hill. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in game 3.
mavsfan1000
04-22-2010, 11:06 AM
Why was Najera shooting threes? I hope to see more of that in game 3.
Najera actually shoots them pretty decently. Unfortunately, the regular season is not the playoffs and more on the line. Najera needs to be benched for Beaubois or Stevenson.
Cry Havoc
04-22-2010, 11:22 AM
I think the biggest concern the Mavs have right now is that the Spurs are shooting 49% in this series.
If that continues, it probably won't matter what the Mavs do, the series will eventually fall in SA's favor.
If the Mavs aren't hitting their jumpers, they don't really play passionate defense, and let teams bust them up. They sank under every screen last night, and played passive defense hoping the Spurs would shoot themselves in the foot.
If the Mavs can't stop the dribble-drive penetration, they're in for a rough 2 games in San Antonio.
Findog
04-22-2010, 11:32 AM
I think the biggest concern the Mavs have right now is that the Spurs are shooting 49% in this series.
If that continues, it probably won't matter what the Mavs do, the series will eventually fall in SA's favor.
If the Mavs aren't hitting their jumpers, they don't really play passionate defense, and let teams bust them up. They sank under every screen last night, and played passive defense hoping the Spurs would shoot themselves in the foot.
If the Mavs can't stop the dribble-drive penetration, they're in for a rough 2 games in San Antonio.
Good post. It's worrisome because teams can have a hot-shooting night. Two games and it's a trend.
Trainwreck2100
04-22-2010, 11:56 AM
Good post. It's worrisome because teams can have a hot-shooting night. Two games and it's a trend.
the spurs have gotten an insane number of layups in these first 2 games. Manu and Parker split the D up top and get a wide open lane
anonoftheinternets
04-22-2010, 11:56 AM
Good post. It's worrisome because teams can have a hot-shooting night. Two games and it's a trend.
well this years spurs has given up some on the D end, and traded it in for O. I think the fear is Mavs will break their shackles more than us scoring at 49%.
JamStone
04-22-2010, 12:23 PM
Why would Carlisle want to use a player who shoots 50% from the field and 40% from three point range and can put up huge scoring spurts? What's so great about that?
badfish22
04-22-2010, 01:32 PM
The biggest mistake that fuckstick made was sitting Dirk the whole first quarter. Trust Dirk not to pick up that third foul, or at least get him in earlier. That really set the tone for a shitty offensive night for the Mavs.
JamStone
04-22-2010, 01:36 PM
That might have been a bigger issue had the Mavs not made a late run at the end of the first quarter and had it within 4 points after that first quarter. They were still in decent position after 1.
Amuseddaysleeper
04-22-2010, 01:56 PM
The series is gonna be tied after game 4. The Mavs play really well in SA. Plus, Dirk won't shoot that poorly again, and I'm sure there's gonna be an off game for one of the Spurs big 3.
RJ has to keep being aggressive, but I would be stunned if the Mavs don't get at least one game in San Antonio.
Amuseddaysleeper
04-22-2010, 02:06 PM
I know Mav fans are frustrated at the lack of playing time for Roddy, but I PROMISE you if Rick gives him 15-20 mpg, the Mavs can take both games 3 and 4. He is EXACTLY the type of slasher the Spurs struggle against. Not only that, but he plays alarmingly good defense for a rookie. He could definitely harass a gimpy Parker.
On the subject of Haywood/Dampier, I think Haywood has to be getting twice as many minutes as Dampier. While it's arguable about who guards Duncan better (Duncan was just on fire in game 2) I think Haywood's length bothers every other Spur. His length limits Blair when he posts up, and he swatted a lot of shots away at the rim.
I expect adjustments to be made, and a big one for the Spurs was not playing Mason very much, and no Keith Bogans at all ( Mason/Bogans played 25 minutes combined in game 1, and only 6 minutes in game 2).
Carlisle will figure it out, but it would be a shame from a Mavs perspective if Roddy gets the shaft for playing time, similar to Hill last year. In which George had a great game when he finally got PT int he playoffs, but too little too late.
mavsfan1000
04-22-2010, 02:11 PM
I know Mav fans are frustrated at the lack of playing time for Roddy, but I PROMISE you if Rick gives him 15-20 mpg, the Mavs can take both games 3 and 4. He is EXACTLY the type of slasher the Spurs struggle against. Not only that, but he plays alarmingly good defense for a rookie. He could definitely harass a gimpy Parker.
On the subject of Haywood/Dampier, I think Haywood has to be getting twice as many minutes as Dampier. While it's arguable about who guards Duncan better (Duncan was just on fire in game 2) I think Haywood's length bothers every other Spur. His length limits Blair when he posts up, and he swatted a lot of shots away at the rim.
I expect adjustments to be made, and a big one for the Spurs was not playing Mason very much, and no Keith Bogans at all ( Mason/Bogans played 25 minutes combined in game 1, and only 6 minutes in game 2).
Carlisle will figure it out, but it would be a shame from a Mavs perspective if Roddy gets the shaft for playing time, similar to Hill last year. In which George had a great game when he finally got PT int he playoffs, but too little too late.
Carlisle doesn't figure anything out. His attitude is we just had a bad game and to keep doing the same things that we've been doing.
picc84
04-22-2010, 02:22 PM
Rushing Kidd when he got a pass at the 3 point line was huge. He refuses to shoot if he isn't wide open. Take that away and you've essentially eliminated his half-court offense.
badfish22
04-22-2010, 05:19 PM
Carlisle didn't play Roddy because Terry was on Fire, maybe if Terry was shooting like shit, then Roddy would have gotten a little burn.
Like game one? :rolleyes
badfish22
04-22-2010, 05:20 PM
But didn't JJ play decent yesterday? He score 5 points and had a couple of assists too.
Jose started playing decent once he was paired with JKidd. Kidd can make a pile of shit look decent at basketball. Roddy would have been much better imho.
Findog
04-22-2010, 05:25 PM
Jose started playing decent once he was paired with JKidd. Kidd can make a pile of shit look decent at basketball. Roddy would have been much better imho.
Kidd plays 40 minutes a game. That leaves 8 minutes for either JJB or Roddy. IMO Barea should NEVER play any minutes at the two, not when JET, DeShawn and Caron are on the roster. Let him play 4 minutes at the 1 at the beginning of the 2nd Q and the last 2/first 2 of the 3rd/4th for Kidd.
I'd rather see Roddy at the 2 alongside Kidd if Terry is throwing up nothing but bricks.
DAF86
04-22-2010, 05:31 PM
The biggest mistake that fuckstick made was sitting Dirk the whole first quarter. Trust Dirk not to pick up that third foul, or at least get him in earlier. That really set the tone for a shitty offensive night for the Mavs.
The Mavs went +2 during that stretch without Dirk.
ElNono
04-22-2010, 05:31 PM
Najera actually shoots them pretty decently. Unfortunately, the regular season is not the playoffs and more on the line. Najera needs to be benched for Beaubois or Stevenson.
Roddy can actually play. But Stevenson? Are you sure you want 3 Wizards out there?
DAF86
04-22-2010, 05:32 PM
The Mavs went +2 during that stretch without Dirk.
+3 if you count the FT Duncan made after Dirk fouled him and went to the bench.
badfish22
04-22-2010, 05:33 PM
The Mavs went +2 during that stretch without Dirk.
But Dirk had to sit for a long stretch and he never found his rhythm imo. He always says that he doesn't like long rest because it messes his rhythm up.
sonic21
04-22-2010, 05:35 PM
Kidd and Roddy complement each other very well. He's the kind of player parker and hill would have a hard time defending.
ElNono
04-22-2010, 05:44 PM
Sometimes coaches don't want to burn stages in a player's development.
Pop last year thought Hill was not ready and basically didn't play him, and it's a situation very similar to Roddy (Mason was basically the guy playing his minutes, who can't guard anybody and couldn't hit the side of a barn on that series).
I suspect Rick is also thinking long term about Roddy and might not want to expose him to the playoff pressure just yet. Don't forget the stakes are a lot higher, and the pressure really mounts for inexperienced players. Look at Blair for exhibit A.
badfish22
04-22-2010, 05:49 PM
Sometimes coaches don't want to burn stages in a player's development.
I'm sure Dirk will understand that if another year of his prime ends in the first round.
ElNono
04-22-2010, 05:58 PM
I'm sure Dirk will understand that if another year of his prime ends in the first round.
If your playoff hopes hinge in the production of a rookie, when tested vets like Marion are laying eggs, then you have bigger problems.
Findog
04-22-2010, 05:59 PM
The Mavs went +2 during that stretch without Dirk.
What does that prove? You're saying that they couldn't improve on that with Dirk in the game?
badfish22
04-22-2010, 06:04 PM
If your playoff hopes hinge in the production of a rookie, when tested vets like Marion are laying eggs, then you have bigger problems.
In a close series, anything little bit of help can be huge. I think Roddy could be a spur killer tbh
Findog
04-22-2010, 06:07 PM
If your playoff hopes hinge in the production of a rookie, when tested vets like Marion are laying eggs, then you have bigger problems.
To me, it's not a case of "Roddy needs to start playing 25-30 mpg starting ASAP," it's that I'd rather have him in there instead of JJB if one of them is playing the 2 alongside Kidd. Why is JJB playing the 2 at all in this series? Especially when he can't guard Tony Parker on the p'n'r?
Some Mavs fans need to get over the idea that Roddy is some magical elixir for some of the problems we've had so far in this series. When our rotations suck and we're getting killed on the p'n'r, Roddy isn't going to help with that. Most of his great games were against lottery teams and for the part he was pretty meh against the good ones.
Did Roddy deserve minutes last night over JET? I don't think so. And I don't think Carlisle trusts him to run the point when Kidd is not in the game. But I would MUCH rather see a Kidd/Roddy backcourt than a Kidd/JJB backcourt for the 5-6 minutes of a game that we've seen so far. When the Spurs roll with a Hill/Parker/Manu trio at the same time, then I think there's an opportunity for Roddy to contribute. I don't think our "playoff hopes" hinge on Roddy, but if JJB isn't hitting shots, then he doesn't deserve to be in over Roddy B.
badfish22
04-22-2010, 06:17 PM
I've said all along that I only get pissed at Carlisle when Roddy gets a DNP. Its bullshit when I see Terry out there bricking everything (game 1) while playing sub-par defense and JJ playing with Kidd and Roddy doesn't even get off the bench.
To have a weapon like him go unused is inexcusable.
Findog
04-22-2010, 06:23 PM
I've said all along that I only get pissed at Carlisle when Roddy gets a DNP. Its bullshit when I see Terry out there bricking everything (game 1) while playing sub-par defense and JJ playing with Kidd and Roddy doesn't even get off the bench.
To have a weapon like him go unused is inexcusable.
It's actually gonna be a bad sign if Roddy gets burn in this series, cause that will mean we're down 2-1 and the Spurs are ahead by 13 points late in the third quarter of Game 4. That's when you'll see Roddy - when it's "time to throw shit against the wall and see if it will stick" mode.
mavsfan1000
04-22-2010, 06:25 PM
We got a very talented team. Unfortunately, Carlisle doesn't have the right rotation out there to get the most out of this team.
Findog
04-22-2010, 06:26 PM
We got a very talented team. Unfortunately, Carlisle doesn't have the right rotation out there to get the most out of this team.
I just want to know what he's thinking when he has Barea in at the 2, or Barea/Haywood in at the same time and they can't guard the p'n'r.
HarlemHeat37
04-22-2010, 06:33 PM
Beaubois-tomatic!..
Real talk though, I legitimately fear seeing Beaubois on the floor if Carlisle puts him in for rotation minutes..I love his game..the Spurs have a lot of trouble defending quick players like him(most teams in the NBA in general have a tough time defending these types in today's game, but the Spurs are poor at it in general), so I hope Carlisle holds him until next year TBH..
sribb43
04-22-2010, 06:40 PM
Beaubois next meaningful minutes will occur in late Oct/early November of this year. He and Matt Carroll are DNP-CD's for the playoff, baring a massive blow out
mavsfan1000
04-22-2010, 06:50 PM
Beaubois next meaningful minutes will occur in late Oct/early November of this year. He and Matt Carroll are DNP-CD's for the playoff, baring a massive blow out
And the reason for that is our coach is a rookie hater. He also is very ignorant which kind of go together with many coaches. But especially ours.
sribb43
04-22-2010, 06:53 PM
And the reason for that is our coach is a rookie hater. He also is very ignorant which kind of go together with many coaches. But especially ours.
I bet the more the media asks him about Roddy, the more it fuels him to never play him.
mavsfan1000
04-22-2010, 06:57 PM
I bet the more the media asks him about Roddy, the more it fuels him to never play him.
Don't forget he lost his job in Detroit over not playing Tayshaun Prince enough. Nothing new with this turd of a coach we have here.
badfish22
04-22-2010, 07:17 PM
I bet the more the media asks him about Roddy, the more it fuels him to never play him.
yup. Thats really is what it seems like, as sad as that sounds.
Come_On_Now
04-22-2010, 08:13 PM
Stevenson and Roddy need to see some time on the court. Also, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to try and get Haywood involved offensively. Hopefully we won't witness the suckfest that was the Dallas Mavericks last night, tomorrow night. We can only imagine what would happen if this team shot well for once, or even refrained from shooting themselves in the foot.
Ghazi
04-22-2010, 08:24 PM
And the reason for that is our coach is a rookie hater. He also is very ignorant which kind of go together with many coaches. But especially ours.
Youre a fucking idiot. Beaubois started the FIFTH game of the season and Carlisle is a rookie hater?
Just another useless post from bullsfan1000, no surprises here.
Fact of the matter is Carlisle is a successful NBA coach and we're all spectators. There's probably a decent reason why Beaubois is not getting minutes.
Keep in mind Beaubois has been at his best in free flow games this year... playoffs are more about half court.
Anyway, when Kidd/Dirk shoot 10/31 and the Mavs defend the PnR like that, and Dick fucking Jefferson has a fluke ass game like that, it doesn't matter who is getting the backup PG minutes.
I would like to see Beaubois play but it's difficult the way thingsplayed out. The last time Beaubois got meaningful minutes was the OT win against the Grizzlies. Now you throw him into a playoff atmosphere?
anyway Barea wasn't too horrible yesterday anyway with a nice 3-pointer and tip pass to Haywood, and barely played.
badfish22
04-22-2010, 08:32 PM
Keep in mind Beaubois has been at his best in free flow games this year... playoffs are more about half court.
And Roddy is one of the only Mavs that can create his own shot. He gets easy buckets.
Ghazi
04-22-2010, 08:35 PM
In Carlisle we trust :tu :)
I thought the Mavs did a decent job getting looks yesterday, just missed their shots and missed a lot of shots in the painted area.
The defense on Dirk wasn't much different.
jestersmash
04-22-2010, 08:50 PM
I don't know who this Beaubois fella is, but the fact that he's scored 7 points per game in 12.5 fucking minutes only, shot >50% from the field, >40% from 3, and had a 40 point game with a monstrously efficient stat line makes me glad that we're not seeing him.
with those sorts of numbers, there's strong indication that he could be a star player in the league in 3 to 5 years, under the right coaching/development, though.
Might turn into the new Ginobili once Gino is retired. Drafted low like ginobili (though not quite 57th), international, slasher that can score ultra efficiently. He sounds a lot like a Ginobili jr. minus the wiles/veteran I.Q. at the moment (duh, he doesn't have the years of experience yet) to me.
ElNono
04-22-2010, 09:01 PM
For your JJ Barea at the 2 turd, I double down with RMJ getting minutes at all for us. It was good enough to see a DNP-CD right next to Bogans.
We all have our complains. I still think this series will be decided by the top, experienced players and their production. There might be a small lift here and there from a newbie (like Roddy or Blair, when given a chance), but overall, I expect both coaches to go to their more experienced lineups as the pressure mounts on every game.
sribb43
04-22-2010, 10:51 PM
Rick should take some notes from Scott Brooks on rooks.... Brooks isn't afaid to play Ibaka who brings spurts of energy to the team. While I think Roddy can't get alot of PT in the playoffs, Rick should give him a chance and if he fails them pull him but sitting his ass next to Matt Carroll is ridiculous
Findog
04-22-2010, 11:04 PM
Rick should take some notes from Scott Brooks on rooks.... Brooks isn't afaid to play Ibaka who brings spurts of energy to the team. While I think Roddy can't get alot of PT in the playoffs, Rick should give him a chance and if he fails them pull him but sitting his ass next to Matt Carroll is ridiculous
I can't argue with that. I don't think Roddy deserves a shit ton of minutes, and he isn't some secret weapon we're sitting on, but what is Barea doing to deserve those 9-14 minutes that Roddy doesn't? You have to at least give him a try at some point to see if he can help in this series. If he doesn't do anything, quickly yank him and then that's that.
sribb43
04-22-2010, 11:13 PM
I could understand if this was Mo Ager we are talking about but it's Roddy freakin' Buckets
mavsfan1000
04-22-2010, 11:47 PM
Don't worry. When Dirk is about done, Roddy will get his minutes and score a lot of points on an old team that is no longer a threat.
monosylab1k
04-23-2010, 01:19 AM
If the Mavs lose this series and Carlisle is so stupid that Roddy doesn't see one meaningful minute on the court, that is a fireable offense as far as I'm concerned.
peteee
04-23-2010, 01:26 AM
If the Mavs lose this series and Carlisle is so stupid that Roddy doesn't see one meaningful minute on the court, that is a fireable offense as far as I'm concerned.
Why are you so fucking spastic about Roddy's usage? Carlisle knows the team better than you do, which you have to admit. It's clear that you've concentrated all your opprobrium on his distrust of Roddy, but do you really believe playing him considerable minutes will make a big change?
mavsfan1000
04-23-2010, 01:41 AM
Why are you so fucking spastic about Roddy's usage? Carlisle knows the team better than you do, which you have to admit. It's clear that you've concentrated all your opprobrium on his distrust of Roddy, but do you really believe playing him considerable minutes will make a big change?
Dirk says Roddy has been impressive in practice and said he wanted Roddy to play. Carlisle is just ignorant.
Shank
04-23-2010, 08:19 AM
I can't argue with that. I don't think Roddy deserves a shit ton of minutes, and he isn't some secret weapon we're sitting on, but what is Barea doing to deserve those 9-14 minutes that Roddy doesn't? You have to at least give him a try at some point to see if he can help in this series. If he doesn't do anything, quickly yank him and then that's that.
Agreed. I thought he should have seen the last 2 minutes of the half last game. Mavs were likely to head into the half, down double digits. Why not give it to Roddy, let the kid run wild just to test the waters? What would the difference have been? Mavs down 14 instead of 12? Or, to the other side, he gives a spark, picks up the crowd and some momentum and the team has a chance to believe they can come back from a 6-8 point deficit and the Spurs start thinking about how they adjust if he's put back in the game later.
Obviously, the kid isn't French Jordan. But we all know what he can do and how he can change the landscape of a game. Rick is playing this series very tightly, very close to the vest with a small rotation. I think Stevenson needs to get some time opposite Kidd. I don't want to see Terry and Barea out there at the same time. Less Najera unless he's on Blair. Give Roddy 5 minutes.
Muser
04-23-2010, 08:44 AM
Why Najera on Blair?
Findog
04-23-2010, 08:59 AM
Why Najera on Blair?
Because teh Blacks and teh Messicans don't like each other. Najera is an annoying pest who would get on Blair's nerves.
Findog
04-23-2010, 09:43 AM
Agreed. I thought he should have seen the last 2 minutes of the half last game. Mavs were likely to head into the half, down double digits. Why not give it to Roddy, let the kid run wild just to test the waters? What would the difference have been? Mavs down 14 instead of 12? Or, to the other side, he gives a spark, picks up the crowd and some momentum and the team has a chance to believe they can come back from a 6-8 point deficit and the Spurs start thinking about how they adjust if he's put back in the game later.
Obviously, the kid isn't French Jordan. But we all know what he can do and how he can change the landscape of a game. Rick is playing this series very tightly, very close to the vest with a small rotation. I think Stevenson needs to get some time opposite Kidd. I don't want to see Terry and Barea out there at the same time. Less Najera unless he's on Blair. Give Roddy 5 minutes.
You gotta hope Kelly Dwyer is right when he says that the Spurs’ Game 2 success was heavily reliant on the fact that “Rick Carlisle’s team consistently failed to connect on shots that, I’m sorry, they’ve consistently made for years.”
What are the chances of Rick getting fired if they get knocked out in the first round?
Mavs generally don't keep coaches for too long do they?
monosylab1k
04-23-2010, 10:39 AM
What are the chances of Rick getting fired if they get knocked out in the first round?
Extremely doubtful, I'd say almost zero. It's just my personal wish if he pisses away a 2 seed with his stubborn refusal to play, yeah I'll say it, the 3rd best player on the team simply because he's a rookie.
Amuseddaysleeper
04-23-2010, 11:39 AM
Because teh Blacks and teh Messicans don't like each other. Najera is an annoying pest who would get on Blair's nerves.
:lol
Speaking of Najera, I feel like he's getting a lot more minutes than expected this series, but that probably has to do with Dirk picking up 2 quick fouls the other night.
Chomag
04-23-2010, 11:43 AM
:lol
Speaking of Najera, I feel like he's getting a lot more minutes than expected this series, but that probably has to do with Dirk picking up 2 quick fouls the other night.
I think they should have went with Hywood when Dirk had to sit that early. Then he could have rotated over to center when demp went out.
I think that Spurs would struggle against that size a bit.
Findog
04-23-2010, 12:00 PM
:lol
Speaking of Najera, I feel like he's getting a lot more minutes than expected this series, but that probably has to do with Dirk picking up 2 quick fouls the other night.
Yeah he was a DNP in G1 and only came in because of Dirk's fouls in G2.
Ghazi
04-23-2010, 12:24 PM
Extremely doubtful, I'd say almost zero. It's just my personal wish if he pisses away a 2 seed with his stubborn refusal to play, yeah I'll say it, the 3rd best player on the team simply because he's a rookie.
No.
mavsfan1000
04-23-2010, 12:24 PM
No.
Yes
monosylab1k
04-23-2010, 12:24 PM
No.
Yes.
stretch
04-23-2010, 12:26 PM
No.
Yes.
Ghazi
04-23-2010, 12:31 PM
Guy puts up a bunch of nice games against shitty teams is suddenly the 3rd best player on the team :lol
Ghazi
04-23-2010, 12:32 PM
and again, if Carlisle had a rookie vendetta he wouldn't have startd Beaubois the 5th game of the season.
mavsfan1000
04-23-2010, 12:33 PM
and again, if Carlisle had a rookie vendetta he wouldn't have startd Beaubois the 5th game of the season.
He started Beaubois because Howard was injured and they wanted to use Terry off the bench. He was stupid to alter that lineup when Howard came back. Arguably the most successful lineup we had.
monosylab1k
04-23-2010, 12:37 PM
Guy puts up a bunch of nice games against shitty teams is suddenly the 3rd best player on the team :lol
When has he ever been given a fair chance against a good team?
Once against Denver where he didn't shoot great but he had 3 steals and did hit one big corner 3.
Once against the Spurs when he started, played 17 minutes, and went 4-8.
That's it.
Every other game against a good team, he either didn't play, only played garbage minutes, or made one mistake and got benched the rest of the game while JJ Barea gets free reign to bounce the ball off his foot out of bounds for all eternity.
Ghazi
04-23-2010, 12:47 PM
not many chances, just saying its a reach to call him the 3rd best player on the team based on less than 700 minutes of NBA basketball against generally weaker competition.
and I find it hard to believe Carlisle has a vendetta against him considering he started the 5th game of the season and had some important minutes late in the season against Memphis/Orlando/OKC.
In the great Rick Carlisle we trust :tu :tu :)
mavsfan1000
04-23-2010, 12:50 PM
not many chances, just saying its a reach to call him the 3rd best player on the team based on less than 700 minutes of NBA basketball against generally weaker competition.
and I find it hard to believe Carlisle has a vendetta against him considering he started the 5th game of the season and had some important minutes late in the season against Memphis/Orlando/OKC.
In the great Rick Carlisle we trust :tu :tu :)
He did the same thing to Prince and it cost him his job. It wasn't until Detroit was down 3-1 with T-Mac going off that he findly figured out that he may need Prince. :lol
sribb43
04-23-2010, 03:12 PM
Roddy B could be the Devin Harris of 4 years ago or the JJB of last year against the Spurs that can swing this bitch back in our favor....come on RC give the frenchie atleast a look. If he fucks up them pull him
cheguevara
04-23-2010, 03:19 PM
This Beaubois fella sounds like Ian Mahinmi
sribb43
04-23-2010, 03:22 PM
This Beaubois fella sounds like Ian Mahinmi
Um no....this guy has actually produced at the NBA level
cheguevara
04-23-2010, 03:23 PM
Um no....this guy has actually produced at the NBA level
against shitty teams according to your fellow mavfan? So has Ian.
peteee
04-23-2010, 08:36 PM
Extremely doubtful, I'd say almost zero. It's just my personal wish if he pisses away a 2 seed with his stubborn refusal to play, yeah I'll say it, the 3rd best player on the team simply because he's a rookie.
the 3rd best player? probably in a couple years he will be but not at this point of time. Your best guys are still Dirk/Kidd/Marion/Butler/Haywood/Dampier/JET and they just take their deserved share of minutes in playoffs. Barea isn't as good as Roddy of course and nor is anyone on the rest roster, so Roddy is arguably the 8th best guy at his finest and it's not so dubious a decision to make a conservative use of this callow rookie.
peteee
04-23-2010, 08:45 PM
When has he ever been given a fair chance against a good team?
Once against Denver where he didn't shoot great but he had 3 steals and did hit one big corner 3.
Once against the Spurs when he started, played 17 minutes, and went 4-8.
That's it.
Every other game against a good team, he either didn't play, only played garbage minutes, or made one mistake and got benched the rest of the game while JJ Barea gets free reign to bounce the ball off his foot out of bounds for all eternity.
More often than not it's not the "good teams" that pave the rockiest alleys, instead Mavs always play fine and win games against such teams( at least in regular season, that it is).
mavsfan1000
04-23-2010, 11:32 PM
bump. Let's see how many threads of Carlisle can be on front of nba news. lol
sribb43
04-24-2010, 12:01 AM
Where is Jim Cleamons or Quinn Buckner when u need them?
jestersmash
04-24-2010, 12:16 AM
scratch what I said about Beaubois, I'm not scared of him anymore, mostly because Carlisle won't give him sufficient playing time to do anything of value
BanditHiro
04-24-2010, 12:39 AM
well that experiment failed.
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