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Even after embarking on an "off the hook" publicity campaign that applied conservative principles to "urban-suburban hip-hop settings," RNC chairman Michael Steele admits that even he can't name a single reason why black people should vote Republican. "You really don't have a reason to, to be honest," Steele told DePaul University students. "We haven't done a very good job of really giving you one. True? True."
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/04/michael_steele_makes_his_pitch.html
baseline bum
04-23-2010, 04:02 AM
White people don't really have a reason to vote Republican either though.
ChumpDumper
04-23-2010, 04:09 AM
I can only conclude that Republicans are using Steele as an object lesson against affirmative action.
Michael Steele is an object lesson in awesomeness.
admiralsnackbar
04-23-2010, 04:41 AM
There's no getting around the irony that a guy who was clearly chosen to counter the common notion that the GOP is a rich, white, Christian party has -- at every turn -- undermined the intended Republican message.
Also ironically, I like him better for it, and the GOP worse.
DarrinS
04-23-2010, 07:36 AM
If by this he means that the GOP has done a poor job of attracting blacks to the party, then I agree with him. Conservatives have done a piss poor job of delivering the message that their core values are quite similar to the core values that most blacks hold. They've also done a poor job of exposing how a liberal agenda has hurt blacks. Does anyone really think the welfare state has done something wonderful for the black community?
For a good example of what Democrat leadership does for the black community, see Detroit.
spursncowboys
04-23-2010, 08:59 AM
If by this he means that the GOP has done a poor job of attracting blacks to the party, then I agree with him. Conservatives have done a piss poor job of delivering the message that their core values are quite similar to the core values that most blacks hold. They've also done a poor job of exposing how a liberal agenda has hurt blacks. Does anyone really think the welfare state has done something wonderful for the black community?
For a good example of what Democrat leadership does for the black community, see Detroit.
Oakland too.
Bartleby
04-23-2010, 09:45 AM
So what are some good examples of what Republican leadership has done for the black community?
boutons_deux
04-23-2010, 10:32 AM
"Conservatives have done a piss poor job of delivering the message that their core values are quite similar to the core values that most blacks hold."
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
EmptyMan
04-23-2010, 10:58 AM
LOL at thinking an entire fucking race can better their entire race by voting for a specific political party.
What a joke. It all comes down to free-thinking individuals. It's so simple.
Boutons, please quit being a racist though.
boutons_deux
04-23-2010, 11:10 AM
EmptyMan, GFY
Ignignokt
04-23-2010, 11:13 AM
This is silly.. Do black people need to be led?
are they children?
in2deep
04-23-2010, 12:13 PM
What about Mexicans?
is the arizona governor Republican or Democrat?
DarrinS
04-23-2010, 12:41 PM
In general, using the race card usually means "I have run out of ideas".
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 01:10 PM
Michael Steele ran out of ideas a long time ago, I think.
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 01:15 PM
Blame the GOP's version of affirmative action: one high-profile hire in response to Obama's election.
I actually disagree that Michael "Off the Chain" Steele is an affirmative action hire. The didn't select him because they genuinely wanted to promote diversity, they selected him because they wanted to EXPLOIT him and trick the black community into thinking that republicans have something or anything to do with promoting black welfare or rights these days.
In general, using the race card usually means "I have run out of ideas".
Exactly, which is why Republicans purpose to pay for healthcare expenses by bartering with livestock.
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 01:43 PM
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The didn't select him because they genuinely wanted to promote diversity, they selected him because they wanted to EXPLOIT him and trick the black community into thinking that republicans have something or anything to do with promoting black welfare or rights these days.If hiring Michael Steele was a cynical pander to race I doubt very many people were taken in by it. Plus, Michael Steele won't easy to get rid of.
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 01:43 PM
The RNC Chairman saying (if a bit flippantly) that he can't think of even one reason black folks should get on board the GOP choo-choo, might only be a mild foreshadowing of the things he could say, if he were sacked.
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 01:49 PM
But I wouldn't be surprised to hear Steele has already walked back the comment, either.
If hiring Michael Steele was a cynical pander to race I doubt very many people were taken in by it. Plus, Michael Steele won't easy to get rid of.
I think the GOP needs to meet at club Voyeur and consider letting go of Steele, but that would make me sad. :(
spursncowboys
04-23-2010, 03:13 PM
Steele could have been hired because he was the only moderate running. But it was probably only because of race. the dems on the other hand nominated a well qualified person who was the best candidate and the fact he was black had nothing to do with it
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 03:17 PM
Obama was the best candidate. He beat Hilary, then McCain.
Crookshanks
04-23-2010, 03:27 PM
Obama was not the best candidate; he was just the blackest.
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 03:32 PM
Obama was not the best candidate; he was just the blackest.Blacker than Alan Keyes (http://minneafrica.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/obamakeyes.jpg)? Just curious.
spursncowboys
04-23-2010, 03:33 PM
Obama was the best candidate. He beat Hilary, then McCain.
Had the dems had a normal primary race, like the RNC, Hillary would have won. Also, even though I think Hillary was underqualified for her Senate seat, she was the more experienced, and qualified candidate.
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 03:39 PM
Had the dems had a normal primary race, like the RNC, Hillary would have won. Also, even though I think Hillary was underqualified for her Senate seat, she was the more experienced, and qualified candidate.Sure. In your mind, the better candidate lost in the Democratic primary. I can see that. I don't really contest that. But viewed as pure competition, it's very hard not to concede that Obama ran the best campaign.
Stringer_Bell
04-23-2010, 04:16 PM
I really don't understand why Steele hasn't been tossed aside yet, what good has he done for Republicans and is he really the best person to galvanize all the angry white people out there?
ANYWAY...here's a good reason for black people to vote Republican.
FDwwAaVmnf4
HOOO! HOOO! :lmao How old was that fucking song at that time???
doobs
04-23-2010, 04:27 PM
I really don't understand why Steele hasn't been tossed aside yet, what good has he done for Republicans and is he really the best person to galvanize all the angry white people out there?
ANYWAY...here's a good reason for black people to vote Republican.
FDwwAaVmnf4
HOOO! HOOO! :lmao How old was that fucking song at that time???
painful
but funny
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 04:27 PM
I really don't understand why Steele hasn't been tossed aside yetI have a surmise. Is that racist of me?
ChumpDumper
04-23-2010, 04:29 PM
I believe it would take a supermajority to get rid of him, and the Republicans look like they are going to pick up seats anyway.
Winehole23
04-23-2010, 05:02 PM
So why rock the boat? Makes sense.
Ignignokt
04-23-2010, 06:07 PM
I actually disagree that Michael "Off the Chain" Steele is an affirmative action hire. The didn't select him because they genuinely wanted to promote diversity, they selected him because they wanted to EXPLOIT him and trick the black community into thinking that republicans have something or anything to do with promoting black welfare or rights these days.
Exactly, which is why Republicans purpose to pay for healthcare expenses by bartering with livestock.
rofl.. either which way you cut it.. both reasons are dishonest towards black people.
But ofcourse Obama was chosen because he was qualified.
CROFL CROFL CROFL x Maxamillion!
CuckingFunt
04-23-2010, 06:18 PM
So what are some good examples of what Republican leadership has done for the black community?
Crack cocaine.
Stringer_Bell
04-23-2010, 06:23 PM
Crack cocaine.
Was that the GOP too? Damn lol
Winehole23
04-24-2010, 02:49 AM
http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9712/index.htm
CuckingFunt
04-24-2010, 04:44 AM
So what are some good examples of what Republican leadership has done for the black community?
Hurricane Katrina.
exstatic
04-24-2010, 10:22 AM
Obama was not the best candidate; he was just the blackest.
In general, using the race card usually means "I have run out of ideas".
exstatic
04-24-2010, 10:29 AM
So what are some good examples of what Republican leadership has done for the black community?
Hurricane Katrina.
:lmao
boutons_deux
04-24-2010, 11:59 AM
AlterNet
What's Behind the Republicans Fielding 32 Black Candidates for Congress in 2010?
By Rich Benjamin, AlterNet
Posted on April 24, 2010, Printed on April 24, 2010
http://www.alternet.org/story/146598/
In remarks at DePaul University this week, Michael Steele, the Republican leader, declared that his party hadn't "done a very good job" courting black votes. Republicans, their leader charged, had "mistreated" their relationship to blacks over four decades with a "'southern strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote."
"Why the hell is Steele, chairman of the RNC (!!), talking about a southern strategy from decades past when today's GOP can win 50 seats in the House," one angry GOP operative demanded by email.
Steele's remarks, and this fresh round of controversy entangling the party, shadow a less reported development. Thirty-two black Republicans, a record-high number, are now running for the U.S. House of Representatives. The South and West, the nation's most diverse regions, field the majority of these candidates: 13 (40 percent) are running in the South and six (19 percent) in the West.
Politically speaking, the group is running in a hodgepodge of districts: Twenty (63 percent) are running in districts that lean slightly or strongly Democratic, while 11 (34 percent) are running in districts that lean slightly or strongly Republican. What's more, the 32 black candidates are running in districts that vary in racial composition: 17 are in majority-white districts, while 15 are majority-minority districts.
"People who've lost factory jobs or lost their home, people who approach me after Tea Party events, have asked me to run," says Angela McGlowan, a small-business owner and former Fox TV political analyst, running to unseat a Blue Dog Democrat in Mississippi's first district. "They say, 'Angela, you've made it big. Please go back to Washington and help us.' When people who have despair ask you for help, you don't turn them down."
There is no specific or organized effort to recruit black candidates to run for Congress, says Paul Lindsay, spokesperson for the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC), the official party organization working to elect Republicans.
"Our recruitment process in general is colorblind," :lol :lol :lol says Lindsay. "You know, that being said, we have been fortunate to have a successful year that includes a number of African-American candidates running."
"Many black Americans are tired of the political system taking them for granted," says Timothy Johnson, chairperson of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a black-run organization that promotes the political involvement and election of blacks nationwide. "These candidates represent a small group of individuals who have stepped out on faith and decided to stop yelling at the TV and get involved."
This historic showing of black candidates promises more hope than probability. Of the 32 candidates, only six stand even a reasonable chance of winning their respective party primary and general election, according to careful calculations, aggregating the analysis of Congressional Quarterly, the Cook Political Report and this author.
These six viable black candidates include David Castillo (WA-3), Bill Hardiman (MI-3), Lou Huddleston (NC-8), Les Phillip (AL-5), Alan West (FL-22) and McGlowan.
Of the GOP's top six black prospects, five are military veterans; five are self-described conservative Christians; four have advanced degrees; and one is a light-skinned Caribbean immigrant, a la Colin Powell.
Only one of the 32 black candidates is receiving active financial and political support from the national party: Allen West, who faces stiff opposition from well-funded Democratic incumbent Ron Klein. (That contested Florida congressional district swoops up from Broward to the northern tip of Palm Beach County, comprising the epicenter of the heated 2000 presidential recount.) West is the only black candidate in the NRCC's "Young Guns" program, an "elite" group of the party's top-priority candidates. The "merit-based" program provides funds and strategic political support to Republicans challenging Democratic incumbents or running for open seats. Young Guns must meet fundraising, volunteer-recruitment, Internet outreach and other campaign benchmarks to earn their status.
West declined to be interviewed through his spokesperson, Valentina Weis, also a founder of the South Florida Tea Party.
Given the anti-establishment, anti-Washington fervor haunting this election cycle, many Republican candidates publicly keep the national party at arm's length, anyway. (Right Senator Hutchinson?) But, no matter. Discrete political and financial support from the NRCC and the Republican establishment is craved by most GOP congressional hopefuls, including the competitive black ones. McGlowan, the Mississippi candidate, initiated a meeting with the NRCC, seeking party support -- to no avail. "Mississippi's good ol' boys rallied around an establishment candidate," she says, at Trent Lott's encouragement: Alan Nunnelee.
Like their white counterparts, the black GOP candidates are seeking national party support mixed with Tea Party street cred. This tightrope walk offers its own challenges -- and comedy. When a black reporter recently ventured into a big Tea Party rally, a "greeter" confused the reporter for a stadium worker, stopping him stone-cold at the gate: "Are you working tonight?"
Why blame the Tea Party greeter? His impromptu experiment in racial profiling has grounding in fact: A recent CBS/New York Times poll reveals that only 1 percent of Tea Party supporters are black. It's a chicken-egg conundrum, pinpointing an exact sequence of events: the GOP's "southern strategy," its extremely vanilla demographics, and its chronic racial kerfuffles. A bungled Hurricane Katrina response inspired Barbara Bush, inspecting the disaster survivors, to chime: "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."
And never mind Trent Lott's Dixiecrat ode to Strom Thurmond. If only America elected the segregationist in 1948, "we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years." Or the Republican-supported Tennessee campaign ad starring a white woman cooing at a black Democrat: "Call me, Harold." Or Glenn Beck's insistence that Obama "hates" white people. Or, "You lie!" Or, Confederate History Month.
And aggravating the GOP's racial discomfort is the person once poised to soothe it: Michael Steele.
In a recent "Good Morning America" TV interview, Steele complained he is being held to a higher standard than his white predecessors because of his skin color.
Former GOP congressman and TV pundit Joe Scarborough scoffed: "It's just the opposite. When I talk to senior Republicans in Washington and I ask, 'Why is Michael Steele still in the job?' they laugh and say, 'What, you think we're going to fire an African American in the age of Obama? Are you an idiot?'"
A former seminarian, pro-life Catholic, and self-described "Lincoln Republican," Steele was installed by an overwhelmingly white party leadership in early 2009 to "broaden" the GOP base -- ideologically, not racially.
"When people speak of broadening the party's geographic diversity, they are speaking in code. They mean the party needs to welcome more moderates; be more forgiving of departures from orthodoxy; and be less antagonistic to pro-choicers and gays," according to political observer Marc Ambinder. Thus Steele's chairmanship "marks a step away from the balkanized Southern white ethos of the party."
This is not the GOP's first attempt to cleanse its racial image.
In 2005, the GOP wanted to launch a "big-tent campaign" to woo black voters, "If You Give Us a Chance, We'll Give You a Choice." That year, Ken Mehlman, GOP chairman at the time, apologized to blacks at an NAACP national convention for the party's history of exploiting racial tension to court white voters -- aka the "southern strategy."
In reality, Republican efforts to court minority voters also serve to smooth the party's rough, conservative edges. The GOP doesn't woo minorities just for their own sake, but also to reel in the larger, more desired prize: the national mass of moderate white voters. It's like flattering the pizza-face girl leaning on the bar to get to her knockout friend.
The GOP's overwhelmingly white coterie of party bosses elected Steele, immediately after Obama's inauguration, more for the sake of white moderates than for racial minorities. As one wag puts it, Steele provides the Republican Party "default race card insurance," political cover for when Republicans attack the president and need to deflect charges of racism.
When Republicans elect a black leader or extravagantly spotlight minorities at their public events, those gestures partly illustrate the party's racial progress. But they also double as preemptive strikes against inevitable and deserved charges of racial prejudice. These gestures are delivered like Bat Signals to moderate whites to telegraph the party's "tolerance."
McGlowan, the Mississippi challenger and former TV pundit, says she is better poised than her white male competitors to "get the crossover vote from females, Latinos and blacks." Yet McGlowan also bristles at labels, insisting she is not running as a female or black candidate.
"Oh, heck no," she exclaims. "Harmony knows no color. Taxes know no color. Unemployment knows no color." During one forum in the South, McGlowan recalls, opponents proposed that she, the sole woman, speak first. She declined. "I don't want a special type of handout."
Republicans, and conservatives generally, face a sticky paradox. On the one hand, conservative dogma champions a "colorblind" mantra. Glenn Beck encourages his supporters to boycott the race question on the Census. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts says America must end the "sordid business" of "divvying" ourselves by race. On the other hand, a rapidly diversifying electorate requires the GOP to acknowledge race and to racially diversify -- or go the way of the dodo bird.
Put bluntly, how does the GOP square its colorblind daydreams with its unfolding demographic nightmare? How does a party that professes to "transcend race" woo minority voters while clutching its white base?
Racial politics is tricky terrain, anyway, since voters don't vote primarily according to skin color -- the candidates' or their own. The vast majority of Americans cast ballots by weighing the issues close to home: the economy, health care, education, social values, immigration and the like. Race is not the be-all end-all of most Americans' voting choices. That noted, a minority voter's race is extremely predictive of party identification -- as much and more so than any other personal trait (gender, income, education level, etc.). Blacks, Latinos and Asian Americans consistently rate Democrats better than Republicans on their handling of such basic issues.
Race is not the main issue in the 2010 election cycle. But it's not irrelevant either.
Racial anxiety and race baiting cloud this campaign, too. The country's Obama-era racial politics rarely mentions race in debate, though it tucks race just under the surface of "nonracial" issues: taxes, health care reform, public spending, and, pointedly, immigration. One black candidate for Congress even tried to color Obama's cap-and-trade proposals black.
"Environmentalism is a new platform to welcome poor blacks onto the government plantation," charges Star Parker, a black, "small-government" conservative candidate in California's 37th district.
Decades after Reconstruction, the novelty and puzzlement over black Republicans are hardly new. White Republicans have also wondered why the party of Lincoln has historically failed to attract blacks. Departing the 1976 Republican convention aboard a commercial flight, country singer Pat Boone asked Earl Butz, Gerald Ford's Secretary of Agriculture, why more blacks didn't join the GOP. "The only thing the coloreds are looking for in life," the Secretary explained, "are a tight pussy, loose shoes, and a warm place to shit." :lol :lol :lol :lol
Decades later, while swaths of America adulate black sports stars, TV talk queens and even the president, the question lingers whether and how badly the GOP wants to racially diversify, while maintaining its conservative base.
Likewise, the historic batch of 32 congressional candidates navigates complicated election terrain -- no less so by Obama, Steele, those loaded Tea Parties, and their very own party baggage.
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And who can forget dubya to the NAACP: (Repugs) "value the black vote", rather than valuing black people
spursncowboys
04-24-2010, 01:43 PM
So what are some good examples of what Democrat leadership has done for the black community?
public education standards
ChumpDumper
04-24-2010, 02:16 PM
So what are some good examples of what Democrat leadership has done for the black community?
public education standardsNo child left behind was about as bipartisan a bill as you could possibly get.
Fail.
spursncowboys
04-24-2010, 04:05 PM
No child left behind was about as bipartisan a bill as you could possibly get.
Fail.
In what way did NCLB fail more than the system that was already in place?
ChumpDumper
04-24-2010, 04:06 PM
In what way did NCLB fail more than the system that was already in place?What did Republicans do to change the system that was already in place?
NCLB.
Good job.
And fail.
spursncowboys
04-24-2010, 04:17 PM
What about all the voucher program, magnet school creations, or creating a higher emphasis on science and math programs?
Winehole23
04-24-2010, 04:28 PM
Big money for AIDS in Africa?
boutons_deux
04-24-2010, 05:20 PM
"magnet school creations,"
along with charter schools, esp in the neo-Confederacy, were nothing but re-segregation, aka, the Repugs/Atwater/Nixon Southern (racist) Strategy.
boutons_deux
04-24-2010, 06:36 PM
There Are Zero Black Republicans in Congress, Yet 32 Are Running for Office in 2010?
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/146598
ChumpDumper
04-24-2010, 06:59 PM
What about all the voucher program, magnet school creations, or creating a higher emphasis on science and math programs?These are all congressional initiatives?
And how did congressional Republicans create a higher emphasis on science and math programs?
What about NCLB? Do you deny the Republican support of that bill?
Ignignokt
04-24-2010, 10:02 PM
So what are some good examples of what Democrat leadership has done for the black community?
public education standards
ban trans fats.
Ignignokt
04-24-2010, 10:03 PM
Hurricane Katrina.
you mean to tell me that they failed to warn them and bussed them to a football stadium?
Oh, Gee!!
04-24-2010, 11:58 PM
Obama was not the best candidate; he was just the blackest.
oh, snap! and there you have the "born-again" perspective. fresh take, crook!
Duff McCartney
04-25-2010, 01:11 PM
Big money for AIDS in Africa?
That money has been widely criticized for being given out only to those that place an emphasis on abstinence rather than safe sex or condom usage.
boutons_deux
04-25-2010, 01:47 PM
Crooky is a magical-thinking "Christian" racist. She "discriminates" between Biblical magic and Magical Negroes. :lol
While we're on the topic of Michael Steele's greatest hits, here's another great one:
"You have absolutely no reason - none - to trust our word or our actions at this point."
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/michael-steele-you-have-no-reason-tr
The Reckoning
04-25-2010, 03:11 PM
imo i never should haven chosen being white when i was born. what was i thinking?!
Winehole23
10-21-2020, 11:20 PM
While we're on the topic of Michael Steele's greatest hits, here's another great one:
"You have absolutely no reason - none - to trust our word or our actions at this point."
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/michael-steele-you-have-no-reason-trMichael Steele in 2020:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/michael-steele-joe-biden-endorsement/index.html
Michael Steele is an object lesson in awesomeness.
So true.
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