What's the excuse now?

[monosylab1k]

I wanna hear from all the Carlisle polesmoking Mavs fans who talked shit all season about how this team wasn't gonna suffer from their inconsistencies, how the fact that they're a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners was false, and how JJ Barea is a better option than Beaubois.

And dont give me that shit about Roddy getting his 5 minutes and getting yanked by Carlisle again. He DIDN'T GET A FAIR CHANCE ONCE AGAIN.

FIRE CARLISLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[monosylab1k]

Fuck Rick Carlisle, Fuck JJ Barea, Fuck Jason Terry, Fuck Mark Cuban, Fuck Brendan Haywood, Fuck Jason Kidd, Fuck Donnie Nelson, Fuck Erick Vagina Dampier, Fuck all you pussy ass faggots.

[monosylab1k]

Shut up, bitch. You guys are just chokers.

Eat a dick you fucking fatass virgin motherfucker.

[Giuseppe]

How does that feel, Mono, right up your ass, ya f'in screwball, you.

[NRHector]

Calm down everybody is only 1 game

[ezau]

Fuck Rick Carlisle, Fuck JJ Barea, Fuck Jason Terry, Fuck Mark Cuban, Fuck Brendan Haywood, Fuck Jason Kidd, Fuck Donnie Nelson, Fuck Erick Vagina Dampier, Fuck all you pussy ass faggots.

Barea was playing very well man. His shots were falling, you can't expect a 5'7 PG cover TP all game long.

[lakaluva's mom]

Eat a dick you fucking fatass virgin motherfucker.

That's what he's doing at this very moment, he shouldn't have left his door open

[Rogue]

Eat a dick you fucking fatass virgin motherfucker.
how did he remain virgin while being a motherfucker? you just shot yourself with your own bullet that ricocheted from the wall, you trash-talking cuckold you.

[Giuseppe]

Calm down everybody is only 1 game

Get out of the f'in way, Hector. Luva & I are exacting are vengeance.

Let us proceed...

[Findog]

I spent the night in the hospital emergency room because my dad got sick and didn't get to watch any of the game. Uh, did Butler get hurt? Why did he only play 14 minutes? What's the word on him?

Why was JJB on the floor at the end according to the Game Channel?

[NRHector]

Get out of the f'in way, Hector. Luva & I are exacting are vengeance.

Let us proceed...:lol oops sorry my bad, go on then

[mavs>spurs2]

one less mav fan for you guys to worry about

rooting for this team just goes against my very nature

mavs are pathetic

i'm done with spurstalk, good luck to everyone. maybe i'll see you guys in 5 years when the team is totally different.

[z0sa]

I spent the night in the hospital emergency room because my dad got sick and didn't get to watch any of the game. Uh, did Butler get hurt? Why did he only play 14 minutes? What's the word on him?

Why was JJB on the floor at the end according to the Game Channel?

I really don't get why Butler wasn't on the floor either. Guess it was because JJ Barea was a beast

[poop]

Fuck Rick Carlisle, Fuck JJ Barea, Fuck Jason Terry, Fuck Mark Cuban, Fuck Brendan Haywood, Fuck Jason Kidd, Fuck Donnie Nelson, Fuck Erick Vagina Dampier, Fuck all you pussy ass faggots.

hahaha bitter dallas fan meltdown.

[monosylab1k]

I spent the night in the hospital emergency room because my dad got sick and didn't get to watch any of the game. Uh, did Butler get hurt? Why did he only play 14 minutes? What's the word on him?

Why was JJB on the floor at the end according to the Game Channel?

Butler didn't play at all in the 2nd half. Carlisle went with Barea/Kidd/Jet the entire 2nd half.

[ezau]

i'm done with spurstalk,

:rollin:rollin

[Rogue]

I know you feel like shit right now. This series is over.
poignant loss but not over yet. Mavs will have one more chance in next game in san antonio, if they lose that game also then it'll be safe to say this.

[poop]

one less mav fan for you guys to worry about

rooting for this team just goes against my very nature

mavs are pathetic

i'm done with spurstalk, good luck to everyone. maybe i'll see you guys in 5 years when the team is totally different.

haha ok, you will be back in a few days when the mavs win. actually you will be back posting regardless.

[DAF86]

I spent the night in the hospital emergency room because my dad got sick and didn't get to watch any of the game. Uh, did Butler get hurt? Why did he only play 14 minutes? What's the word on him?

Why was JJB on the floor at the end according to the Game Channel?

The word on the streets is that Josh Howard on drugs is better than him at playing basketball.

[Findog]

I really don't get why Butler wasn't on the floor either. Guess it was because JJ Barea was a beast

Did Butler get hurt? The box score says he only played 14 minutes? Marion only played 16 minutes.

I only got to see the foul, San Antonio shoots free throw portion of the final 30 seconds. Mavs losing is the cherry on top of a shit sundae tonight.

[Rogue]

I spent the night in the hospital emergency room because my dad got sick and didn't get to watch any of the game. Uh, did Butler get hurt? Why did he only play 14 minutes? What's the word on him?

Why was JJB on the floor at the end according to the Game Channel?
you would also be taken to emergency room if you had watched the game. Butler wasn't hurt and he played fairly well in the 1st half, but he was benched for the next two quarters for NO FUCKING REASON. 3 PGs played the entire 4th so I knew they would lose the game from the start of the 4th.

[Giuseppe]

poignant loss but not over yet. Mavs will have one more chance in next game in san antonio, if they lose that game also then it'll be safe to say this.

Yes.

Rogue, the voice of reason & moderation in chaotic times.

[AnthonyM]

I spent the night in the hospital emergency room because my dad got sick and didn't get to watch any of the game. Uh, did Butler get hurt? Why did he only play 14 minutes? What's the word on him?

Why was JJB on the floor at the end according to the Game Channel?

Sorry to hear that, Fin.

JJB was likely on the floor because he was super energetic on the floor in the 2nd half. But that said, there was no reason that Butler should not have been on the floor in the second half. Seems like Rick gave that game away by doing that even thought the Mavs had a chance...

[Findog]

THE FUCK? We can't win this series with a crunch-time lineup of Kidd, Barea and Terry on the floor together. Wow.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao at retarded fucking spur fans saying Barea played great. He had a spurt of good play in the 2nd/3rd quarters and then got an entire 4th quarter of completely undeserved playing time, along with Terry.

Barea and Terry were both godawful in the fourth quarter but Carlisle didn't have the fucking sense to realize his 3PG lineup had run it's course of usefulness and put Butler back in the game. Barea's ballhogging killed at least 2 crunchtime possessions.

[lakaluva's mom]

Mav fans humbled....lmao oh shit sons!!!!

[Findog]

Well Sunday night is the season I guess. Lose and we're not coming back from 3-1. Win and we got a chance. I would not have guessed that Rick would've given Barea 31 minutes to Butler's 14 in a critical playoff game.

[Findog]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion of JJB playing an entire fourth quarter in a playoff game. I'm stunned.

[Rogue]

Yes.

Rogue, the voice of reason & moderation in chaotic times.
Glad to see you rating me so high, I guess that's probably because you're also momentarily high now.

tee, hee.

[Rogue]

:lmao at retarded fucking spur fans saying Barea played great. He had a spurt of good play in the 2nd/3rd quarters and then got an entire 4th quarter of completely undeserved playing time, along with Terry.

Barea and Terry were both godawful in the fourth quarter but Carlisle didn't have the fucking sense to realize his 3PG lineup had run it's course of usefulness and put Butler back in the game. Barea's ballhogging killed at least 2 crunchtime possessions.
No Marion, No Butler in the fourth. Apparently this retard still trusts his old guys more despite how fucking awful the 3-PG lineup looked. Maybe he thought he needed to use his old guys because it was just this bunch of guys that beat the Spurs last season in playoffs, or to make it vivider, curb stomped the Spurs in the first round of playoffs LAST SEASON.

[Ghazi]

It should be noted Caron did not exactly light it up out there in his limited action.

Barea played well, except down the stretch. hindsight is really 20/20 with these coaching decisions. Those two b2b wasted possessions by JET/Barea were quite annoying though and probably cost the game along with Parkers long jumpers.

Let's not act as if this was a guaranteed win if BUtler played in the 4th.

Great game. Tough loss. Put up or shutup time in Game 4.

Mavs center production has been terrible in the last 2 games. 6 points in 93 minutes. :wow

[nkdlunch]

damn mavfans. sorry to say. Spurs reallly want this series and they are in good health. sorry to say but mavs have no chance. they will not win another game this series.

[picc84]

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8229/namnlsnry.jpg

[sribb43]

This team is so fucked. I'm sure butler, Haywood and Marion don't give a fuck anymore and there is 0 chemistry on the floor

[Rogue]

It should be noted Caron did not exactly light it up out there in his limited action.

Barea played well, except down the stretch. hindsight is really 20/20 with these coaching decisions. Those two b2b wasted possessions by JET/Barea were quite annoying though and probably cost the game along with Parkers long jumpers.

Let's not act as if this was a guaranteed win if BUtler played in the 4th.

Great game. Tough loss. Put up or shutup time in Game 4.

Mavs center production has been terrible in the last 2 games. 6 points in 93 minutes. :wow
Nope, Butler played pretty silently tonight during the meager minutes he played, but do you think playing him a little bit in the 4th would get it worse than what it actually was? This moron played 3 FUCKING PG(s) through the entire 4th and didn't make a tiny fucking change even when they were clearly curbstomped.

[jdev82]

I spent the night in the hospital emergency room because my dad got sick and didn't get to watch any of the game. Uh, did Butler get hurt? Why did he only play 14 minutes? What's the word on him?

Why was JJB on the floor at the end according to the Game Channel?

hope your dad is alright, give him get well wishes from the spurs community. butler was a non-entity in the first half, guess slick rick carlisle wanted to bench him. i honestly dont know why he was guarding the gatorade the whole second half

[Thompson]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion of JJB playing an entire fourth quarter in a playoff game. I'm stunned.

I think it might have been the entire second half. I kept waiting for Carlisle to reveal his strategy and throw a rested Butler in at the end, but Rick's apparently too clever to show his cards yet. :p:

I'm sorry your dad isn't feeling well, I hope he feels better.

[sribb43]

THE FUCK? We can't win this series with a crunch-time lineup of Kidd, Barea and Terry on the floor together. Wow.

Gimmick lineups are good in spurts to swing momentum but they will fuck u in the ass if you play them too long, like RC did for the whole 2md half

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

Mav fan is feeling small ball pain.

But yeah, Carlisle is pretty fucking stupid. That lineup was terrible.

[san antonio spurs]

I believe the 4 best players of the mavs tonight were on the floor in the 4th. The problem is that their 3 PG never got any rest in the second half and tired down the stretch. Butler showed nothing tonight to deserve playing time ahead of JJ let alone in crunch time. He should've played a little to give JJ a breather though.

[timvpimp]

:lol

Mav fan is feeling small ball pain.

But yeah, Carlisle is pretty fucking stupid. That lineup was terrible.
exactly, their small-ball looked even creepier than Spurs' where RJ plays as PF and Blair Center.

[NewJerSpur]

Butler belonged on the bench. Barea earned the minutes.

[Trainwreck2100]

its just, both teams played like shit

[timvpimp]

Hope Senior Findog isn't a Mav fan and hasn't watched any pathetic game they've played recently. prayers for Mr. Findog Sr

[Trainwreck2100]

Butler belonged on the bench. Barea earned the minutes.

then bench Terry

[ShoogarBear]

Best wishes to your dad, Findog.

Carlisle went overboard by benching Butler the entire second half. Guess this was his version of Pop's "dog" speech.

The real dog for the Mavs has been Marion. But Playoff Marion has always been a choker.

[NewJerSpur]

then bench Terry

Terry is more of a threat than Butler. Caron's been taking some terrible shots, absolutely terrible. JT was one of the main reasons Mavs still had a chance late in the game.

[Trainwreck2100]

Terry is more of a threat than Butler. Caron's been taking some terrible shots, absolutely terrible. JT was one of the main reasons Mavs still had a chance late in the game.

But with either marion or butler on the floor, pop can't play manu/parker/hill lineup so long, and Jefferson has to come in.

[xellos88330]

Hope your father is ok Findog and it's nothing serious.

[Trainwreck2100]

what kind of self respecting ER doesn't have a tv in the waiting room?

[baseline bum]

Hope everything's ok with your dad, Findog.

[NewJerSpur]

But with either marion or butler on the floor, pop can't play manu/parker/hill lineup so long, and Jefferson has to come in.

Not as long as Marion keeps struggling on both ends of the floor, then it doesn't matter who out there against him (check the 2nd quarter). I'd probably give Caron Shawn's minutes if anything, but neither if proving themselves a consistent threat or gamebreaker. The Mavs put out the lineup the Spurs have struggled with the last 2 years and it started to work, that's why they stuck with it.

[picc84]

If Dirk could play center it would make things so much easier.

[DPG21920]

Sorry to hear that FD. I am absolutely shocked that RC benched Caron the entire 2nd half for JJB. You cannot do that to one of your star players. Not only does it create locker room issues and resentment, it crushes their confidence.

I was really amazed to see it play out that way, and I would be stunned if Caron was not hurt.

[timvpimp]

Sorry to hear that FD. I am absolutely shocked that RC benched Caron the entire 2nd half for JJB. You cannot do that to one of your star players. Not only does it create locker room issues and resentment, it crushes their confidence.

I was really amazed to see it play out that way, and I would be stunned if Caron was not hurt.
yes, his 3-PG lineup cranked out some unexpectedly nice results and managed to keep the match close till the crunch minutes in the 4th quarter, when he should have substituted the gimmicks out and his regulars in, but he choose to screw everything up by continuing this lineup.

[ElNono]

Fin, hope your dad is well...

Butler was yanked off because the Mavs were still shooting 37%, Caron was still hesitating, and once Barea went in, the shooting percentage went right up.

[timvpimp]

Fin, hope your dad is well...

Butler was yanked off because the Mavs were still shooting 37%, Caron was still hesitating, and once Barea went in, the shooting percentage went right up.
which was well negated by his poor defense and his ball hogging at the offense end.

[Trainwreck2100]

Fin, hope your dad is well...

Butler was yanked off because the Mavs were still shooting 37%, Caron was still hesitating, and once Barea went in, the shooting percentage went right up.


Buler's passing up wide open 3s, and i'm sure benching him will really help his confidence

[NewJerSpur]

Caron and J-Ho were good fits for their former teams imo, Howard just couldnt get his head on straight the way Butler has matured and Dallas didn't feel like babysitting him anymore.

[ElNono]

Buler's passing up wide open 3s, and i'm sure benching him will really help his confidence

It's been 3 games and he's still hesitating, passing up shots, turning the ball over. And props to Gino for being all over him at the start of the game. At some point Rick has to turn the page and try something else. He tried Roddy Buckets for a bit, them went with JJ...
Same thing with Marion. He's been a no-show so far. I think he only played 5 mins in the second half.

[Trainwreck2100]

It's been 3 games and he's still hesitating, passing up shots, turning the ball over. And props to Gino for being all over him at the start of the game. At some point Rick has to turn the page and try something else. He tried Roddy Buckets for a bit, them went with JJ...
Same thing with Marion. He's been a no-show so far. I think he only played 5 mins in the second half.

That first game Caron was on fire, but for 2 games in a row Carlisle has started the half with him on the bench. Now when Pop comes out of the half break his superscrub stays on the bench. 99% of the time with his same lineup that starts the game starts the half, no matter how bad it was the 1st half.

[FkLA]

Mav fans need to give the Puerto Rican midget a break seriously...he was actually one of the better Mavs players today, that coupled with other guys playing like vaginas prompted Carlisle to play him heavy minutes. The Spurs were basically in control through most of the first half, they had like a 7-10 lead throughout. With the midget and turtle in the line-up they got it within 3 by halftime and late in the 3rd quarter had an 8 point lead. Theyre the players that put the Mavs in position to be able to win the game to begin with.

[badfish22]

Just got done watching the game. Not sure what to say, other than Rick Carlisle needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize what the FUCK he is gonna do. I don't think playing JJ the whole 2nd half is the answer here. I know he had a good run but you need to know when to go back to you big guys.

We got game four.

[badfish22]

Dirk needs some help. Sucks that they guy that has the talent to help him played 14 minutes.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

:lmao at retarded fucking spur fans saying Barea played great. He had a spurt of good play in the 2nd/3rd quarters and then got an entire 4th quarter of completely undeserved playing time, along with Terry.

Barea and Terry were both godawful in the fourth quarter but Carlisle didn't have the fucking sense to realize his 3PG lineup had run it's course of usefulness and put Butler back in the game. Barea's ballhogging killed at least 2 crunchtime possessions.

You truly do prove the stereotype true that Mavfan knows dick about basketball.

Barea is the only reason this game was not a 20 point blowout.

[mavsfan1000]

Barea killed the rhythm. I don't care what others say about his numbers. The flow of the game was not good with him out there. We needed a SF out there. Why is it both Marion and Butler play or both have to be benched? So no SF's or 2 SF's.

[mystargtr34]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion of JJB playing an entire fourth quarter in a playoff game. I'm stunned.

I believe he played the entire second half. Only player who didnt have a rest IIRC.

[badfish22]

Someone tweeted "y even pick up @matrix31 (http://twitter.com/matrix31) or C butler if ur not gonna play em down tha strech? smh" to Marion and he responded with "yeah you're right"

Just what we need.

[timvpimp]

Just got done watching the game. Not sure what to say, other than Rick Carlisle needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize what the FUCK he is gonna do. I don't think playing JJ the whole 2nd half is the answer here. I know he had a good run but you need to know when to go back to you big guys.

We got game four.
stop tainting this board, you scummy rancid fuck.

[mystargtr34]

Yea i thought Barea actually did quite well. He hit that momentum killing 30 footer at the buzzer to end the half to bring the Mavs within 3, and was huge in the 17-0 run to put the Mavs up 8. Carlisle probably should have bought Butler back in bridging the 3rd and 4th quarters when the Spurs got back in it to give JJB a rest and throw something different out there, but i thought Butler was way to stagnant. He was a ball-stopper tonight.

[DPG21920]

I told you. You can't do that to your best players. Especially a guy like Marion.

[NewJerSpur]

I hope they do play Marion more....and encourage him to look for his offense.

[jag]

Someone tweeted "y even pick up @matrix31 (http://twitter.com/matrix31) or C butler if ur not gonna play em down tha strech? smh" to Marion and he responded with "yeah you're right"

Just what we need.

It's started.

[timvpimp]

Barea killed the rhythm. I don't care what others say about his numbers. The flow of the game was not good with him out there. We needed a SF out there. Why is it both Marion and Butler play or both have to be benched? So no SF's or 2 SF's.
He was more of a minus than plus during most of the 4th but it's untrue to call him the same dependent on the 2nd and 3rd quarter. he played encouragingly in those minutes and helped a lot in keeping the Mavs afloat. The mistake was made by Carlisle when he should have got him out yet he didn't.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Barea killed the rhythm. I don't care what others say about his numbers. The flow of the game was not good with him out there. We needed a SF out there. Why is it both Marion and Butler play or both have to be benched? So no SF's or 2 SF's.

Flow of the game would have been completely irrelevant had Barea not penetrated and hit shots close to the rim, given Spurs defensive rotation fits, and then hooked up Dirk and Terry with wide open threes.

It was all due to Barea.

If you are assuming "rhythm" matters in some alternate reality my question is how the fuck do you get those points for that 15 point swing the Mavs pulled, if not for Barea and his penetration?

[TheRealCB]

Fire RC,play Roddy..Plain and simple..:depressed

[mavsfan1000]

Flow of the game would have been completely irrelevant had Barea not penetrated and hit shots close to the rim, given Spurs defensive rotation fits, and then hooked up Dirk and Terry with wide open threes.

It was all due to Barea.

If you are assuming "rhythm" matters in some alternate reality my question is how the fuck do you get those points for that 15 point swing the Mavs pulled, if not for Barea and his penetration?
Then he made up for it by sucking the entire 4th quarter. Terry should've been benched as well. He tries to be the hero and it pisses me off.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

The thing is....

Carlisle went Beaubois before he went Barea. And Beaubois ended up with like two turnovers and two missed shots. He actually helped the spurs build their lead. So Carlisle has two options....Barea or more rookie. And if the Rookie causes him to lose the game he gets shit....if Barea does, well he gets shit, but less shit.

[NewJerSpur]

It's started.

Yup.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Then he made up for it by sucking the entire 4th quarter. Terry should've been benched as well. He tries to be the hero and it pisses me off.

Okay then that is Carlisle, not Barea. That little fucking hispanic tiny poor man's steve nash is the only reason this was not a blowout of Epic Spurs/Mavs playoff proportions.


He got yall back into the game. After that, Carlisle should have adjusted accordingly. But he did his job. Mookie even texted me during the game completely flabbergasted because he can't understand how JJ owns us so fucking hardcore.

[Cry Havoc]

Sitting Butler and Marion is NOT the Mavs answer to beat the Spurs.

They can't just sit them and hope other people step up. If Butler and Marion continue to suck, they're going to lose the series anyway.

[mavsfan1000]

He was more of a minus than plus during most of the 4th but it's untrue to call him the same dependent on the 2nd and 3rd quarter. he played encouragingly in those minutes and helped a lot in keeping the Mavs afloat. The mistake was made by Carlisle when he should have got him out yet he didn't.
With Barea you are playing with fire. He has killed this team many times this year. You don't wait until he kills you. You take advantage of him if he has it going but have a quick trigger when things start going south. Carlisle didn't do that and he got burned.

[timvpimp]

Flow of the game would have been completely irrelevant had Barea not penetrated and hit shots close to the rim, given Spurs defensive rotation fits, and then hooked up Dirk and Terry with wide open threes.

It was all due to Barea.

If you are assuming "rhythm" matters in some alternate reality my question is how the fuck do you get those points for that 15 point swing the Mavs pulled, if not for Barea and his penetration?
:tu the problem is Carlisle seemed to be inebriated watching Barea's vintage plays and got deluded to believe that this midget would be the answer. Sadly he was awefully wrong and his mistake literally cost the game, and will probably also cost his job hopefully.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

"@matrix31 tough game , can't beat em when it's 8 on 5. NBA refs should all be fired and charged with fixing games"

"@texas_D yeah I hear u"

hahahahaha

[mavsfan1000]

The thing is....

Carlisle went Beaubois before he went Barea. And Beaubois ended up with like two turnovers and two missed shots. He actually helped the spurs build their lead. So Carlisle has two options....Barea or more rookie. And if the Rookie causes him to lose the game he gets shit....if Barea does, well he gets shit, but less shit.
The lead was already built when Beaubois came in the game. The lead stayed the same.

[timvpimp]

With Barea you are playing with fire. He has killed this team many times this year. You don't wait until he kills you. You take advantage of him if he has it going but have a quick trigger when things start going south. Carlisle didn't do that and he got burned.
:tu

no blame or criticism should be sprayed on Barea, or anyone else living obediently under retarded management&coaching.

[mystargtr34]

"@matrix31 tough game , can't beat em when it's 8 on 5. NBA refs should all be fired and charged with fixing games"

"@texas_D yeah I hear u"

hahahahaha

:lol He really said that?

[Mavs_man_41]

What's with all the Barea apologists? So he hit a couple shots..he's still a defensive liability. Not his fault, but 5'7 players with short limbs are a liability in this league. A 3 pg lineup isn't going to win us any games.

[NewJerSpur]

Carlisle keeping in Barea and the others over Marion and Butler made a statement as to the magnitude of this game imo....he went with something he knew would work and milked it as long as he could. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't pull it out and tere may be larger looming implications as a result.

[mavsfan1000]

Carlisle keeping in Barea and the others over Marion and Butler made a statement as to the magnitude of this game imo....he went with something he knew would work and milked it as long as he could. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't pull it out and tere may be larger looming implications as a result.
The 3 guard lineup hasn't worked all year. Carlisle I guess doesn't pay attention to this and goes with his precious rotation old and undersized players due to being out of position. With Barea, Terry, and Kidd you get not only a small lineup but no speed advantage that small lineups need to succeed.

[Kori Ellis]

Someone tweeted "y even pick up @matrix31 (http://twitter.com/matrix31) or C butler if ur not gonna play em down tha strech? smh" to Marion and he responded with "yeah you're right"

Just what we need.

Are you serious? Marion is an immature, insecure bitch. You guys better hope he doesn't have a meltdown. :lol

[Mavs_man_41]

Okay then that is Carlisle, not Barea. That little fucking hispanic tiny poor man's steve nash is the only reason this was not a blowout of Epic Spurs/Mavs playoff proportions.


He got yall back into the game. After that, Carlisle should have adjusted accordingly. But he did his job. Mookie even texted me during the game completely flabbergasted because he can't understand how JJ owns us so fucking hardcore.

says spurstalk's resident expert at speaking on things he knows nothing about

[Cant_Be_Faded]

:lol He really said that?

A fan said the first comment about the refs and marion agreed said I hear that


pretty funny


twitter will be the end of sports

[NewJerSpur]

The 3 guard lineup hasn't worked all year. Carlisle I guess doesn't pay attention to this and goes with his precious rotation old and undersized players due to being out of position. With Barea, Terry, and Kidd you get not only a small lineup but no speed advantage that small lineups need to succeed.

I'm not simply referring to the 3 PG lineup, I'm referring to a lineup that specifically gives the Spurs problems though I will say that the smaller lineups played better than the sizeable ones for Dallas. Damp looks bad, Haywood was on skates and isn't blocking any shots, Marion is oblivious to the basketball game going on on the court and content with his paycheck, and Butler has taken some terrible shots that actually have knocked the Mavs out of rhythm outside of Game 1......maybe some of those things change, but right now that's where things stand.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

says spurstalk's resident expert at speaking on things he knows nothing about

I'm pretty sure as far as Spurfan spurstalkers go I know the mavs pretty fucking well.

Saying that playing Barea was a mistake is fundamentally stupid. Because that assumes your paper tiger team gets back into this game by some other means. And that shit wasn't happening without him causing Spurs rotations fits. We were putting you fools on lock until he broke out.

[mavsfan1000]

I'm not simply referring to the 3 PG lineup, I'm referring to a lineup that specifically gives the Spurs problems though I will say that the smaller lineups played better than the sizeable ones for Dallas. Damp looks bad, Haywood was on skates and isn't blocking any shots, Marion is oblivious to the basketball game going on on the court and content with his paycheck, and Butler has taken some terrible shots that actually have knocked the Mavs out of rhythm outside of Game 1......maybe some of those things change, but right now that's where things stand.
The game was a 3 point game at half time. We did go on a run but our biggest run against us also came with that lineup. So you could say that lineup can work really well but also fall apart which it eventually did. Hill and Manu are the difference from this year and last year. Jefferson surprisingly has helped as well.

[NewJerSpur]

The game was a 3 point game at half time. We did go on a run but our biggest run against us also came with that lineup. So you could say that lineup can work really well but also fall apart which it eventually did. Hill and Manu are the difference from this year and last year. Jefferson surprisingly has helped as well.

Which is the root of your problem right now. It is great to see George's development this year and Manu back healthy.....brings a different dimension to the team we didn't have last year at this time.

[ezau]

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8229/namnlsnry.jpg

:lmao:lmao

[ezau]

You truly do prove the stereotype true that Mavfan knows dick about basketball.

Barea is the only reason this game was not a 20 point blowout.

Agreed. Barea was hitting shot after shot and penetrating at will.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

What's with all the Barea apologists? So he hit a couple shots..he's still a defensive liability. Not his fault, but 5'7 players with short limbs are a liability in this league. A 3 pg lineup isn't going to win us any games.

This post just blows my mind.

He gave the Mavs 2 buckets when we were on the verge of running away in the 2nd quarter.....then makes an incredibly lucky/clutch long range 3 pointer to close the half and make it only a 3 point game, and we were physically dominating the Mavs at that point.

To be only up 3 while dominating had to be demoralizing for SA.

Then he comes back in the 3rd and scores with at-will penetration.

Then when we finally adjust our rotations to account for him he hooks up two wide open three pointers for other maverick players.

By this time the mavs already recaptured the lead and have the momentum they built upon when shortly thereafter Manu got his nose broken.


Without JJ dominating the Spurs defense, you guys do jack shit and we are laughing our asses off.


It's not his fault Carlisle played him the entire 4th quarter and he failed, just like it was not Roger Mason's fault last year against the Mavs when Pop expected him to be a point guard.

You put him in a position to fail and if he fails in that position its not his fault.

[Mavs_man_41]

Not his fault, but 5'7 players with short limbs are a liability in this league. A 3 pg lineup isn't going to win us any games.



You put him in a position to fail and if he fails in that position its not his fault.

glad we're on the same fucking page, numbnuts

[Mavs_man_41]

it's not jj's fault he's a midget liability, but that gimmick 3 guard lineup didn't win us a game did it??

oh wait, i already established that in my original post that you felt the need to argue against, though you were actually agreeing with me.

[Rogue]

What's with all the Barea apologists? So he hit a couple shots..he's still a defensive liability. Not his fault, but 5'7 players with short limbs are a liability in this league. A 3 pg lineup isn't going to win us any games.
cosigned. it's all the fault of Rick Idiot Carlisle to use a dwarf lineup in the entire 4th quarter, which consequently caused their meltdown in the crunch minutes. I would give respects and praises for Barea's efforts, and I saw he really played hard in defense, but it's just his natural deficiency that tampers with him.

[Johnny RIngo]

Mavs losing is the cherry on top of a shit sundae tonight.

Know how you feel. My dad was hospitalized for a stroke during last year's playoffs which made for a completely miserable experience. In any case, best wishes to you and your father.

[timvp]

one less mav fan for you guys to worry about

rooting for this team just goes against my very nature

mavs are pathetic

i'm done with spurstalk, good luck to everyone. maybe i'll see you guys in 5 years when the team is totally different.

lmao tbh

[timvpimp]

lmao tbh
is badfish22 a good man?

[koriwhat]

one less mav fan for you guys to worry about

rooting for this team just goes against my very nature

mavs are pathetic

i'm done with spurstalk, good luck to everyone. maybe i'll see you guys in 5 years when the team is totally different.

once a bitch, always a bitch... nice bitch move, bitch.

[BRHornet45]

sons no surprises here ... as I have said the Spurs SHOULD easily be up 3-0 right now if not for the refs allowing the Mavs to put on a "Free Throw Exhibit" in game 1.

[monosylab1k]

You truly do prove the stereotype true that Mavfan knows dick about basketball.

Barea is the only reason this game was not a 20 point blowout.

You truly do prove the stereotype of Spurfan who thinks he's a genius basketball analyst just because his fat beaner ass can watch a team win a title.

Barea played well for part of the 2nd and 3rd quarters. He helped the mavs get back into the game, but then in crunch time, after the Spurs had adjusted to the Mavs 3PG lineup, Barea was a major liability at both ends of the floor. He and Terry both were simply awful, there's no other way of putting it.

Don't fucking tell me how my team played. I've followed my team all year, I know them way better than your fat beaner ass does.

[monosylab1k]

The thing is....

Carlisle went Beaubois before he went Barea. And Beaubois ended up with like two turnovers and two missed shots. He actually helped the spurs build their lead.

Are you fucking retarded? His +/- for the game was +2. Exactly the same as JJ Barea's in about 1/6th the time. One turnover and one missed shot. Too busy shoving a burrito down your piehole to look at a box score before saying shit you have no clue about?

It's not Barea's fault Rick Carlisle is a moron, but it is his fault when he's dominating the ball in crunch time, trying to drive on 3 guys like he's Dwyane Fucking Wade instead of giving it to Dirk.

[Muser]

Damn someone's mad.

[ShoogarBear]

twitter will be the end of sports

Unless they start a National Twitter League.

[ShoogarBear]

I can understand Mav Fan's antipathy towards playing Barea the fourth quarter, but you can't deny he was at the center of the third quarter comeback.

Can't really blame Butler because he never got a chance to redeem himself.

Terry has shitted on the Spurs so much in the past, it made sense to keep him in.

Carlisle made a good move but then followed it by not recognizing it had worn off.

And Playoff Marion's annual suckage is a sight to behol.d

[BRHornet45]

I can understand Mav Fan's antipathy towards playing Barea the fourth quarter, but you can't deny he was at the center of the third quarter comeback.

Can't really blame Butler because he never got a chance to redeem himself.

Terry has shitted on the Spurs so much in the past, it made sense to keep him in.

Carlisle made a good move but then followed it by not recognizing it had worn off.

And Playoff Marion's annual suckage is a sight to behol.d



son the Mavs fans should just be happy to have even won a game in this series. the Spurs are clearly the better team and should have swept em.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Are you serious? Marion is an immature, insecure bitch. You guys better hope he doesn't have a meltdown. :lol


This. If someone is telling Marion he's being underutilized he's probably getting extremely pissed off at his coach.

[Giuseppe]

Sure, like Nash getting extremely pissed off at his coach (Porter).

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sure, like Nash getting extremely pissed off at his coach (Porter).


You know that I agree with you about Nash and Porter. We both know Marion is quite the cry baby when he isn't getting his touches.

[Giuseppe]

Gosh you're agreeable when you're on a winning streak. I wouldn't even need to know your series count. Not being on your ignore list would tell me all I need.

tee, hee.

[cornbread]

Unless they start a National Twitter League.

The Matrix could finally have that franchise player role that he's always felt he deserved.

[ShoogarBear]

I said Twitter, not Twit.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Gosh you're agreeable when you're on a winning streak. I wouldn't even need to know your series count. Not being on your ignore list would tell me all I need.

tee, hee.

Cully, ignore list or not, I've always agreed with you that Nash quit on Porter and that it was the wrong thing to do.

[spursncowboys]

Mavs should have never gotten rid of Lil General. The guy was brilliant. Carlyle is ok but seems to be more reactive. Instead of trying to match the spurs small ball, he should have punished them with size.

[Cry Havoc]

I can understand Mav Fan's antipathy towards playing Barea the fourth quarter, but you can't deny he was at the center of the third quarter comeback.

Can't really blame Butler because he never got a chance to redeem himself.

Terry has shitted on the Spurs so much in the past, it made sense to keep him in.

Carlisle made a good move but then followed it by not recognizing it had worn off.

And Playoff Marion's annual suckage is a sight to behol.d

Exactly.

I see what Mavs fans are saying. I mean, really, you're hoping JJ Barea is going to save you in the 4th quarter vs. a veteran team like the Spurs with a coach who knows how to make adjustments? The only disappointing thing to me is that we didn't start posting JJ up. I mean, anyone on our team could have backed him down.

Barea played extremely well for 2 quarters, but I'm wondering if he was either gassed in the 4th or his luck caught up to him. That time should have gone to Butler. You don't play a guy for a whole season only to go away from him because a midget hits a few lucky shots.

[rayray2k8]

How about you guys just wait until Sunday and see if the mavs get the split. The momentum would swing back to the mavs and it would become the best of 3 series..
If the spurs lose on Sunday, spurs fans will go into panic mode... Sorta

[ElNono]

Someone tweeted "y even pick up @matrix31 (http://twitter.com/matrix31) or C butler if ur not gonna play em down tha strech? smh" to Marion and he responded with "yeah you're right"

Just what we need.

lmao

[spursncowboys]

You truly do prove the stereotype of Spurfan who thinks he's a genius basketball analyst just because his fat beaner ass can watch a team win a title.

Barea played well for part of the 2nd and 3rd quarters. He helped the mavs get back into the game, but then in crunch time, after the Spurs had adjusted to the Mavs 3PG lineup, Barea was a major liability at both ends of the floor. He and Terry both were simply awful, there's no other way of putting it.

Don't fucking tell me how my team played. I've followed my team all year, I know them way better than your fat beaner ass does.
LMAO. SO you are an expert because you watched them all season. Nice.

[Findog]

what kind of self respecting ER doesn't have a tv in the waiting room?

There was no tv in the waiting room. The tv in our room didn't get ESPN. it was Law and Order Criminal Intent.

My dad's okay now, he just had an extremely scary episode with really high blood pressure. It was 220 something over 100 something.

[Findog]

How about you guys just wait until Sunday and see if the mavs get the split. The momentum would swing back to the mavs and it would become the best of 3 series..
If the spurs lose on Sunday, spurs fans will go into panic mode... Sorta

Mavs are still in this series. If it's 3-1, then it's time for being despondent, cause you can't beat a team like the Spurs three in a row. At 2-1 it's disappointing because from what I've been reading, this game was there for the taking and Carlisle apparently rode a hot lineup too long after it got them back in the game.

[BlackSwordsMan]

There was no tv in the waiting room. The tv in our room didn't get ESPN. it was Law and Order Criminal Intent.

My dad's okay now, he just had an extremely scary episode with really high blood pressure. It was 220 something over 100 something.

did he get his high blood pressure during the mavs game?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

did he get his high blood pressure during the mavs game?


That didn't even make sense fat beaner, great fuckin job.

[BlackSwordsMan]

I usually skip over your posts but its getting tiring I'm just going to add you to my ignore list
lol

[Findog]

Sounds to me though like the Mavs have bigger problems if it takes a gimmick lineup to avoid a blowout. If JJ Barea is the answer (and apparently he was in the middle quarters), that's not a question you want to be asked.

[Findog]

did he get his high blood pressure during the mavs game?

My girlfriend and I were going to watch the game at a friend's house. We ate first and were on our way when my mom called all panicked and told me to meet her at the hospital (southwest Ft Worth when were near downtown Dallas at the time). We got there a little bit before tipoff and it became apparent there wasn't a method for watching the game at the hospital (Maybe I need an iphone so I can stream a game on atdhe).

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I usually skip over your posts but its getting tiring I'm just going to add you to my ignore list
lol


Good, I don't want fat beaners reading my posts.


Findog - Marion looks GREAT :lmao

[BlackSwordsMan]

My girlfriend and I were going to watch the game at a friend's house. We ate first and were on our way when my mom called all panicked and told me to meet her at the hospital (southwest Ft Worth when were near downtown Dallas at the time). We got there a little bit before tipoff and it became apparent there wasn't a method for watching the game at the hospital (Maybe I need an iphone so I can stream a game on atdhe).

Thanks for an explanation DOK thought I was making fun of your dad
Was just curious as to what triggered the event.

[Booharv]

Are you fucking retarded? His +/- for the game was +2. Exactly the same as JJ Barea's in about 1/6th the time. One turnover and one missed shot. Too busy shoving a burrito down your piehole to look at a box score before saying shit you have no clue about?

It's not Barea's fault Rick Carlisle is a moron, but it is his fault when he's dominating the ball in crunch time, trying to drive on 3 guys like he's Dwyane Fucking Wade instead of giving it to Dirk.

Speaking of plus/minus.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/4549306072_bf080d17f7_o.jpg

[ShoogarBear]

How about you guys just wait until Sunday and see if the mavs get the split. The momentum would swing back to the mavs and it would become the best of 3 series..
If the spurs lose on Sunday, spurs fans will go into panic mode... Sorta

Yep.

The genius move by Carlisle would be to bench Marion. Fortunately, I don't think he has the balls to do that.

[baseline bum]

one less mav fan for you guys to worry about

rooting for this team just goes against my very nature

mavs are pathetic

i'm done with spurstalk, good luck to everyone. maybe i'll see you guys in 5 years when the team is totally different.

Because you'll have nothing to say if you can't brag about your team facefucking the home team of the board? Smart choice I guess, kid, but the series isn't over and it shows what a fucking dumbass you are to bail on a team when they lose a road game by a lousy 4 points.

[word]

I wanna hear from all the Carlisle polesmoking Mavs fans who talked shit all season about how this team wasn't gonna suffer from their inconsistencies, how the fact that they're a bunch of jumpshooting frontrunners was false, and how JJ Barea is a better option than Beaubois.

And dont give me that shit about Roddy getting his 5 minutes and getting yanked by Carlisle again. He DIDN'T GET A FAIR CHANCE ONCE AGAIN.

FIRE CARLISLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Statistically, the Mavs are a team that have disaster written all over them in the playoffs.

[Mavs_man_41]

Because you'll have nothing to say if you can't brag about your team facefucking the home team of the board? Smart choice I guess, kid, but the series isn't over and it shows what a fucking dumbass you are to bail on a team when they lose a road game by a lousy 4 points.

my nigga is just pissed after over a decade of what seems to be a cruel joke. mav fans have endured so much you wouldn't even understand unless you followed this team from since before Dirk even got drafted

[ShoogarBear]

None of you guys followed the team from since before Dirk got drafted.

[ShoogarBear]

(j/k, I'm sure Findog did.)

[Mavs_man_41]

sure i have, stop being a douchebag

[Findog]

(j/k, I'm sure Findog did.)

The Mavs have been a tragic majesty since Roy Tarpley snorted away our chances of being "The Team of The Nineties."

[timvpimp]

My girlfriend and I were going to watch the game at a friend's house. We ate first and were on our way when my mom called all panicked and told me to meet her at the hospital (southwest Ft Worth when were near downtown Dallas at the time). We got there a little bit before tipoff and it became apparent there wasn't a method for watching the game at the hospital (Maybe I need an iphone so I can stream a game on atdhe).
Even with Iphone you still wouldn't get a good stream. You have to pay for it if you want a quality one with steady speed, but I guess you don't want to pay any extra fee and the free ones all lag as shit. Anyway its not bad news you didn't see that game last night...

[timvpimp]

The Mavs have been a tragic majesty since Roy Tarpley snorted away our chances of being "The Team of The Nineties."
it's more like the Kidd-Jackson feud that ruined the Mavs in 90s IIRC, so IMHO Braxton was the culprit that catalyzed the deterioration.

[timvpimp]

I usually skip over your posts but its getting tiring I'm just going to add you to my ignore list
lol
Shut the FUCK up, you attention seeking whore. Even "fat beaner" is one respectful appellation for you because you are indeed a far-eastern Nazi-sympathizing piece of fat shit.

LOL America's ALLY

LOL Fatasses wearing thongs

LOL Atom Bomb

LOL eating raw fish

LOL Nazi Sympathizer

LOL Inferior race

[ShoogarBear]

The Mavs have been a tragic majesty since Roy Tarpley snorted away our chances of being "The Team of The Nineties."

Biggest waste of talent ever. Dude was going to be a no-brainer HoFer.

[baseline bum]

Biggest waste of talent ever. Dude was going to be a no-brainer HoFer.

I'd still have to go with Bias on this one.

[ShoogarBear]

Okay, but Bias never stepped on an NBA court, so there's still a small chance he would have been a bust.

[Booharv]

Biggest waste of talent ever. Dude was going to be a no-brainer HoFer.

I never got to see Tarpley much being an east coaster (I became a Spurs fan from those cheesy Mr. Robinson's neighborhood commercials that were on when I was a kid), I just looked at Tarpley's stats at stats reference, dude had a 22.6 Rebound Rate in 1987-88. He averaged 11.8 rebounds a game that year in only 28.5 mpg (!), plus it looked like he could score too. Damn.

[Findog]

Sorry to hear that FD. I am absolutely shocked that RC benched Caron the entire 2nd half for JJB. You cannot do that to one of your star players. Not only does it create locker room issues and resentment, it crushes their confidence.

I was really amazed to see it play out that way, and I would be stunned if Caron was not hurt.

I can understand benching a guy for a quarter. Jefferson played much better in G2 after Pop called him out. Butler's not a bad guy or a headcase like Josh Howard. Benching him for the entire second quarter would've been sufficient for getting your point across. From what I can gather, the Mavs had a great chance at getting this one and Carlisle stuck with that lineup too long. Barea gave this team a lift but he averages like 10 mpg. He was out there for 31 without a break. Dampier was apparently moving very slow at the end too. This loss is on Carlisle, for what it's worth from a guy that didn't watch the game.

I did manage to see the final 30 seconds or so and saw a clip of Tony Parker pushing off and committing an obvious offensive foul on JJ Barea on one of his clutch jumpers at the end. I'm not bitching about that call, as you cannot expect JJ Barea to have the respect of the refs and get that call. In fact, I would bet Parker pushed off knowing the refs didn't have the balls to make that call. The point is, only bad things can happen if you let JJ Barea check Tony Parker in the final part of a game. Marion can't come back in for defensive purposes for those final possessions? He's struggling on the offensive end, but his defense has been fine. He can't bother Parker with his length? If you're checking Parker at the end of the game with Barea, you deserve what you get.

[NewJerSpur]

It was a bad time for Barea to not sell the call. He stumbled a bit a kind of looked over for the call.....might have gotten it if he flew a little bit further or even hit the ground on a delay.

[ShoogarBear]

Obvious offensive foul, huh?

http://i40.tinypic.com/2chb9mv.gif

[Ghazi]

I thought Barea flopped on that play. Didn't mind the no call

My gripe is the charge on Dirk when Bonner really wasn't set.

alas, on to game 4 for these MEN in blue