Suns vs. Blazers Game 3 thread

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Suns up early but Aldridge doing work.

[oh crap]

i'd like for Portland to win but i'm not counting on it

[Muser]

Suns playing some pretty good D.

[Muser]

B Roy coming in, this is interesting.

[MavDynasty]

wtf B Roy coming back?

damn this crowd is 07 GS warrior like

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

i'd like for Portland to win but i'm not counting on it

The way things look early I would. Grant Hill is in stupid mode.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Suns playing some pretty good D.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Muser]

Maybe not. What's up with Amare? Shouldn't he be beasting all over Aldridge?

[lil_penny]

Keep it together portland.. roy don't get hurt

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Maybe not. What's up with Amare? Shouldn't he be beasting all over Aldridge?


Since he's getting double teamed on nearly every possession not really. It's more on the role players' inability to make a shot.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's also a team wide problem for shit stained defense.

[Spursmania]

Didn't Roy just have surgery???

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

wtf B Roy coming back?

damn this crowd is 07 GS warrior like


Yeah no kidding, and Brandon Roy pulling a Willis Reed isn't calming it down.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Channing Frye is so god damn stupid

[Muser]

Oh dear Phoenix...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Please dear god Dudley let that shot get you going.

[Muser]

Tough shot by Dudley.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Now THAT'S a first quarter!

[Muser]

Nash wtf :lol

[spursfan1000]

LOL wheres everyone at? is anyone watching this game

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

LOL wheres everyone at? is anyone watching this game


I am and I can't begin to describe how frustrating it is to watch Juwan Howard beast on the offensive glass.

[lil_penny]

Portland can't make a ft.

[Jeremy]

This is a frustrating game. It has the same feel as Game 1. The TNT curse is back.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Once again, Gentry getting completely out coached by McMillan. Hopefully he makes the halftime adjustments he didn't make in game 1, the amount of avoidable offensive rebounds they gave up were inexcusable.

[djohn2oo8]

Damn, Portland should be getting blown out

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Damn, Portland should be getting blown out

????

[mogrovejo]

Damn, Portland should be getting blown out

I agree. Their energy and effort on the boards keeping them in the game.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

OK, that's nice and all Grant, now stop shooting 3's.

[SAtown]

Flagrant?

[ShoogarBear]

Hmm, I dunno about that one. But maybe under the circumstances you have to call it a flagrant.

[angelbelow]

Agree wit the flagrant cause Bayless clearly shoved him in the air.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

That was borderline and def. had more to do with the refs wanting to keep the game under control. Either way dumb of Portland to find a way to get Phoenix focused when they clearly had been playing half assed the entire game.

[dbestpro]

juwan Howard is very impressive all things considered.

[mogrovejo]

Blazers defending Stoudemire 1x1 with Howard. Don't like that this late.

[Muser]

Lol barbosa

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

God damn Barbosa is so fuckin stupid.

[LnGrrrR]

Yup, could see that call coming a mile away.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

PLEASE get JR in the game.

[NewJerSpur]

I'm embarrassed, I didn't even know this game was going on.....if I did, I wouldn't have left the house a few hours ago. What have I missed?

[Darthkiller]

man Roy isnt hitting anything right now.

[Muser]

I'm embarrassed, I didn't even know this game was going on.....if I did, I wouldn't have left the house a few hours ago. What have I missed?

Nothing really. Shitty game IMO.

[mogrovejo]

The only counter-move the Blazers seem to have to LMA being double is Camby flashing to the high-post. Works very well when Camby is on the court, but when he isn't the Suns are usually very successful trapping Aldridge.

[Muser]

What the fuck kind of inbound D was that

[NewJerSpur]

Props to Roy for giving it a go.

[NewJerSpur]

Bad shot by Miller. Not his game.

[NewJerSpur]

The longer this series goes, the more imperative it is the Spurs try to put an end to their series early to rest the core players logging a ton of minutes....of course, Dallas may still have something to say about that. GO BLAZERS!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I don't see the Suns winning this game. Latest example of a run and gun team being unable to win a close, slow paced half court game.

[Muser]

Nash :lmao :lmao :lmao

[mogrovejo]

Nash not making good decisions after Portland switches on the pick'n'roll. He destroyed them in the last 2 games in that kind of situation.

[Muser]

Dagger.

[Mavs_man_41]

suck a fat chode DoK your team is totally irrelevant

you're having too much fun, seemingly oblivious to the oncoming 2nd round BEATDOWN and i don't like it

[fo'shizzle]

B-Roy for 3!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nash's inability to run a halfcourt offense late in games is truly astonishing.

[lil_penny]

Good to see roy knock that down.. having a lot of trouble creating for him self tonight so that wide open 3 was a must hit.. hopefully portland can hold onto this.

[pauls931]

Didn't realize this was on, looks like it's not worth tuning in to so on to game 5...

[NewJerSpur]

Did Roy have the surgery yet, or did he decide to hold it off to be able to come back?

[Mavs_man_41]

suck a fat chode DoK your team is totally irrelevant

you're having too much fun, seemingly oblivious to the oncoming 2nd round BEATDOWN and i don't like it

[Muser]

Did Roy have the surgery yet, or did he decide to hold it off to be able to come back?

He had it 8 days ago.

[NewJerSpur]

Didn't realize this was on, looks like it's not worth tuning in to so on to game 5...

It got a weird timing slot and it's the only game TNT has tonight....that's what threw me off.

[Ghazi]

Nash creating for Amare, nothing new here.

[Ghazi]

Nash hitting a big shot, nothing to see here

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

suck a fat chode DoK your team is totally irrelevant

you're having too much fun, seemingly oblivious to the oncoming 2nd round BEATDOWN and i don't like it


Sup Timvp.

[NewJerSpur]

He had it 8 days ago.

Gotcha', thanks.

[Muser]

leaving Alrdridge open. lol hill.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nash hitting a big shot, nothing to see here


Shut the fuck up you stupid sand ######. How did Nash do on that last possession?

[Mavs_man_41]

Sup Timvp.

ha

your team can't even beat the roy-less, oden-less blazers :lol

[NewJerSpur]

Nash is the only guy that create for himself with that lineup.

[Muser]

Nash really shit himself tonight.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nash is the only guy that create for himself with that lineup.


Yeah right, Amare can't create for himself at all.

[Ghazi]

Nash driving layup, great fucking clutchness :cry

[Ghazi]

fucking Nash with a great pass but Amare's pussy ass causes a jump ball. Nothing to see here.

[NewJerSpur]

Bad pass by Nash, he floated that one.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nash driving layup, great fucking clutchness :cry


Go fly a plane into a building you towel headed sack of shit.

[Ghazi]

Nash was fouled. Horseshit

[Mavs_man_41]

nash just turning it over because his teammates suck

without that guy, you'd get swept by the crippled blazers :lol

[LnGrrrR]

Ouch Nash.

[DJ Mbenga]

wow portland again with the HCA

[Muser]

That TO was damn clutch tbh

[Warlord23]

Never gets old watching the Suns get their chodes bloaded

[jestersmash]

Fun game to watch

[dbestpro]

suns got hosed. i think we will see more of this occur in the playoffs against the teams that cry the most.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

wow portland again with the HCA


The Suns still have HCA.....last I checked you can't win HCA back by winning a game on your court.

[lil_penny]

Dok I'm on the nash bandwagon with you now. He has been horrible when it counted in the finals mins of this game and game 1.

[jestersmash]

Amare scares the shit out of me. He looks like he could rip a person in half.

Mavs have such a hard time guarding Gino-Duncan pick and rolls, I shutter to think how they'd handle nash-amare. Amare is far and away more explosive around the rim.

And if spurs advance instead, it's still going to be a problem. We've never been good about slowing Amare down.

[Mavs_man_41]

The Suns still have HCA.....last I checked you can't win HCA back by winning a game on your court.

suns are going to be dismantled in the next round anyway, tee hee

why do you even watch?

[DJ Mbenga]

LMAO that was no flagrant

[san antonio spurs]

I can't understand DoK's hate for Nash. Anything the suns have been able to do for the last 5 years is because of him. He has flaws, but saying he can't lead an offense in a half-court game is laughable.

[DJ Mbenga]

The Suns still have HCA.....last I checked you can't win HCA back by winning a game on your court.

lol i meant that portland getting calls again in their home court. no suprises here

[LnGrrrR]

Way to take the charge Suns.

[NewJerSpur]

Why has Richardson on the bench?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

suns are going to be dismantled in the next round anyway, tee hee

why do you even watch?


Yeah I know, the Spurs are gonna kill them!

[Muser]

I can't understand DoK's hate for Nash. Anything the suns have been able to do for the last 5 years is because of him. He has flaws, but saying he can't lead an offense in a half-court game is laughable.

You just fucked up your own argument.

[pauls931]

lol i meant that portland getting calls again in their home court. no suprises here

2nd toughest place on the road behind the palace.

[Mavs_man_41]

Yeah I know, the Spurs are gonna kill them!

and since i'm timvp, i'll enjoy the shit out of that jew boy

[Bartleby]

Amare scares the shit out of me. He looks like he could rip a person in half.

Mavs have such a hard time guarding Gino-Duncan pick and rolls, I shutter to think how they'd handle nash-amare. Amare is far and away more explosive around the rim.

And if spurs advance instead, it's still going to be a problem. We've never been good about slowing Amare down.

And yet, the Spurs always seem to find a way to beat the Suns in the playoffs.

I think the Blazers present bigger match-up problems for the Spurs than do the Suns.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I can't understand DoK's hate for Nash. Anything the suns have been able to do for the last 5 years is because of him. He has flaws, but saying he can't lead an offense in a half-court game is laughable.


You can seriously watch this game and tell me you don't understand why I hate Nash? God damn Canadians are stupid.

[LnGrrrR]

This game is over if he makes one of these...

[pauls931]

Oh well, they still have HCA. Granted it would have been nice to win this one and end the series in Pho. Have a feeling this one is going 7 games now...

[NewJerSpur]

And yet, the Spurs always seem to find a way to beat the Sun in the playoffs.

I think the Blazers present bigger match-up problems for the Spurs than do the Suns.

Blazers are a VERY scary team, even hobbled. The length and ability to hit long range jumpers presents a tough matchup for the Spurs.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Anything the suns have been able to do for the last 5 years is because of him.


What have the Suns been able to do in the last 5 years?


PS - What Nash did in 2007 is irrelevant to now.

[san antonio spurs]

You can seriously watch this game and tell me you don't understand why I hate Nash? God damn Canadians are stupid.

Then tell me

[Muser]

I want this Suns team in the 2nd round. (If the Spurs get there)

[san antonio spurs]

What have the Suns been able to do in the last 5 years?


PS - What Nash did in 2007 is irrelevant to now.
You're clueless if you think you lost because of Nash

[Warlord23]

Which of these is funnier:
A) That a team with Andre Miller starting and playing 40+ minutes is in the playoffs
OR
B) That the Suns are struggling against such a team

[NewJerSpur]

Good, extend this series to 7 games if possible.

[Sec24Row7]

eph you phoenix

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Then tell me


Between the turnovers, bad defense and selfishness, you have frontal lobe damage if you can't figure it out on your own.

[Pero]

Nash has 6 TO, 3 of them in the 4th.

[Muser]

lol nash what a pussy.

[bdictjames]

The Suns are in trouble this series.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You're clueless if you think you lost because of Nash


Answer the fucking question you Canadian sack of shit.....what have the Suns done in the last 5 years? What is it I should be so grateful for?

[Mavs_man_41]

DoK don't you storm out on me like that..:nope

[NewJerSpur]

Between the turnovers, bad defense and selfishness, you have frontal lobe damage if you can't figure it out on your own.

Bad defense I'll give you, but selfish?

[Mavs_man_41]

Answer the fucking question you Canadian sack of shit.....what have the Suns done in the last 5 years? What is it I should be so grateful for?

i could say the same fucking thing for the past decade, but i don't hate dirk

[ShoogarBear]

wow portland again with the HCA

Arithmetic is not your friend.

[Muser]

B Roy sounds a bit like RJ.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Bad defense I'll give you, but selfish?


Yes, selfish. Dominating the ball and worrying more about padding your assist total than helping your team win is selfish.

[Crookshanks]

I'm glad the Blazers won. I don't really have a favorite between these teams, but I feel bad for Portland this year with all the injuries - so I'm glad they've made a series of this.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

i could say the same fucking thing for the past decade, but i don't hate dirk


You should resent some of the things Dirk has done, but Mono is the only Mavs fan on the site who is willing to admit Dirk's lack of leadership has fucked the Mavs at certain times.

[NewJerSpur]

Yes, selfish. Dominating the ball and worrying more about padding your assist total than helping your team win is selfish.

So by padding your assist total you're selfish?

[Strike]

So by padding your assist total you're selfish?

If you're doing it just to raise your assist total, yes.

[Pero]

So by padding your assist total you're selfish?

Well, apparently Nash prefers trying to make an assist to taking a shot that could win a game. :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So by padding your assist total you're selfish?


Yes. Assists are a stat, just like points. Allen Iverson did things to pad his point total. Nash does things to pad his assist total. Same concept.

[NewJerSpur]

If you're doing it just to raise your assist total, yes.

So he should be less selfish and take more shots?

[san antonio spurs]

Between the turnovers, bad defense and selfishness, you have frontal lobe damage if you can't figure it out on your own.

Don't be such a kid and resort to name-calling for lack of arguments :lol. Can't we have a civil argument? :lol
To sum up ...you hate him because he's having a bad game? Because aside from his bad defense (which is team trait for all suns anyway), he's not selfish and not turnover prone (he's 22nd during these playoffs) for all I know.

[DJ Mbenga]

Arithmetic is not your friend.

i meant with calls going their way

[Muser]

Damn Atlanta getting beat down.

[Mavs_man_41]

You should resent some of the things Dirk has done, but Mono is the only Mavs fan on the site who is willing to admit Dirk's lack of leadership has fucked the Mavs at certain times.

did you not see my quote last night? i can call kori fucking ellis in here to vouche for me about our conversation about dirk's leadership

in a nut shell, dirk is a great player but an average leader. underrated in so many ways, yet just doesn't inspire those around him to elevate their play. the team rises and falls with whether or not his shot is falling. i've made no secrets about this.

but he gives it his all, and i don't hold that against him, so how about stepping off nash's nuts?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So he should be less selfish and take more shots?


No, he should simply give the ball up earlier in the possession and not dominate it till there are 5 seconds left on the clock.

[NewJerSpur]

Yes. Assists are a stat, just like points. Allen Iverson did things to pad his point total. Nash does things to pad his assist total. Same concept.

Even so, the very nature of an assist seems to imply otherwise. As far as dominating the ball, do you feel he should give it up early in the clock, and if so to who? Doesn't that fall more on the structure of the offense and the team's dependency on his playmaking ability?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

People always associate assists with unselfishness when some of the most selfish players in NBA history put up good assist numbers. Stephon Marbury led the league in assists one year, are you saying he's not selfish.

[Mavs_man_41]

did you not see my quote last night? i can call kori fucking ellis in here to vouche for me about our conversation about dirk's leadership

in a nut shell, dirk is a great player but an average leader. underrated in so many ways, yet just doesn't inspire those around him to elevate their play. the team rises and falls with whether or not his shot is falling. i've made no secrets about this.

but he gives it his all, and i don't hold that against him, so how about stepping off nash's nuts?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Even so, the very nature of an assist seems to imply otherwise. As far as dominating the ball, do you feel he should give it up early in the clock, and if so to who? Doesn't that fall more on the structure of the offense and the team's dependency on his playmaking ability?

Seeing that no one on Portland can guard Amare in the post, idk why he got no touches in the post.

[Mavs_man_41]

Seeing that no one on Portland can guard Amare in the post, idk why he got no touches in the post.

isn't that the coach's fault just as much as it is nash's?

whoever stopped him from calling a timeout, drawing up a play, and screaming POUND THE FUCKING BALL INTO AMARE!!!??

[Pero]

Seeing that no one on Portland can guard Amare in the post, idk why he got no touches in the post.

He got them when Dragic was in, I remember the commentators saying the Suns are "force feeding" him. He got them from Nash too later, just maybe not as much.

[ShoogarBear]

There are lots of examples of guys playing selfishly to pad their assists. Kevin Porter back in the 70s was one of the first. Stevie Franchise and Starbury did it to some extent. Basically you overdribble and don't give up the rock until it looks like somebody has a shot. The problem is that it kills ball movement and "hockey assist" team basketball.

Not necessarily saying that's what Nash does.

[NewJerSpur]

People always associate assists with unselfishness when some of the most selfish players in NBA history put up good assist numbers. Stephon Marbury led the league in assists one year, are you saying he's not selfish.

Stephon, I can understand from the standpoint that passing is secondary to him with regard to his penetration, but Nash is pretty unselfish. He's forced to shoot when teams don't want to get drilled on the other end of a pnr and sag off of him or when a team is helter skelter in getting back into transition.

If you're Amare, and you feel you have a good matchup, you have to communicate that with Nash and Gentry and make sure you get attempts in the post. Any dominant big would do the same.

[mogrovejo]

Nash doesn't dominate the ball nearly as much as Marbury did, or as TJ Ford does today. A better example of a marquee PG who's ball dominant is TJ Ford.

The problem with Nash today was that he was making bad decisions reacting to Portland's switching on ballscreens. Had the same problem before in this series.

A bigger issue for Phoenix was that doubling LMA + Miller wasn't as effective. Roy playing makes this series a bit more interesting.

[Giuseppe]

People always associate assists with unselfishness when some of the most selfish players in NBA history put up good assist numbers. Stephon Marbury led the league in assists one year, are you saying he's not selfish.

Stockton too. He was an extremely selfish ball player.

[pauls931]

Stockton too. He was an extremely selfish ball player.

sob was hoarding assists and all the dirty

[Giuseppe]

sob was hoarding assists and all the dirty

Exactly. And it cost his team legit chances at the title. Countless times he'd drive to the rim, and then fire back out 20 feet for an uncontested jumper. And commentators would rave about it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Cubby hit it on the knob. People see a white guy who gets a lot of assists and they assume unselfish. Nash and Stockton are both examples of a guy putting their stats before the team.

[NewJerSpur]

You guys have interesting takes on Stockton and Nash. Different, I'll give you that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Stephon, I can understand from the standpoint that passing is secondary to him with regard to his penetration, but Nash is pretty unselfish. He's forced to shoot when teams don't want to get drilled on the other end of a pnr and sag off of him or when a team is helter skelter in getting back into transition.


So dominating the ball when you should be working it around and looking for an assist isn't selfish? The only way to be selfish is shooting?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

How is it that these awesome teammate, "pass first", high assist point guards never do jack shit in the playoffs?

[NewJerSpur]

So dominating the ball when you should be working it around and looking for an assist isn't selfish? The only way to be selfish is shooting?

Don't really care for that Nash guy do you, lol.

If the Suns have an issue with him working the pnr then they should address that, but no one's complaining when it's working. No one complains when Nash is looking downcourt for an easy transition opportunity for his teammates.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No one complains when Nash is looking downcourt for an easy transition opportunity for his teammates.


I am because those high risk high reward gamble passes end up in unforced turnovers. I've been complaining about this bullshit transition offense for some time now, if it were up to me Nash would get traded and the Suns would transition to a half court defensive team.

[NewJerSpur]

I am because those high risk high reward gamble passes end up in unforced turnovers. I've been complaining about this bullshit transition offense for some time now, if it were up to me Nash would get traded and the Suns would transition to a half court defensive team.

That's the offense the team runs with the personnel they have. If you want to transition out of that bring in a new regime.

[DAF86]

I could bet my truck on this series going seven.

[barbacoataco]

Great game for Portland today. As far as Nash, he got outplayed. The idea of him ever being a b2b MVP is looking more and more ridiculous with a little hindsight.