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polandprzem
04-26-2010, 08:04 AM
Yesterdays games were officiated by

Salvatore
Mauer
Foster
D. Crawford

All of them were refs in spurs series


Today we have 3 guys

J.Crawford
J.DeRosa
E.Rush

That is leaving McCutchen alone heading to Texas

EricB
04-26-2010, 08:06 AM
Mccutchen is hit or miss. Screw it. Play well enough that they don't matter...

polandprzem
04-26-2010, 08:09 AM
http://www.abendblatt.de/multimedia/archive/00289/dirk_nowitzki_HA_Sp_289558c.jpg


http://www.nbastuffer.com/charts/53.jpg


http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/thumbnailfull/kobe-bryan-monty-mccutchen-2009-5-14-23-20-28.jpg

MI21
04-26-2010, 09:01 AM
Nice info poland. For backup, I would like to see what FWD has to say and who he has pegged to be crew chief.

Either way, it's nice to avoid Joey Crawford. Typically, he is a good referee to have if you are on the road, but with his feelings towards The Big Warranty, I much prefer to avoid him.

Spursmania
04-26-2010, 09:03 AM
Yeah, I am glad because I don't want to worry about Joey yet. Although, I'd prefer to have him on the road in game 5 rather than at home in Game 6.

MI21
04-26-2010, 09:06 AM
Yeah, I am glad because I don't want to worry about Joey yet. Although, I'd prefer to have him on the road in game 5 rather than at home in Game 6.

I'm more confident that the supporting cast can show up and the guys can close it out at home with Timmy getting a bad rap from Joey than I am of them doing the same in Game 5 at Dallas. I really think it is important to close Dallas out ASAP.

(Also, I don't normally get into such discussions about referees affecting games and such, but with Joey, there is clearly an agenda and it is ridiculous.)

Nathan Explosion
04-26-2010, 09:10 AM
I'm more confident that the supporting cast can show up and the guys can close it out at home with Timmy getting a bad rap from Joey than I am of them doing the same in Game 5 at Dallas. I really think it is important to close Dallas out ASAP.

(Also, I don't normally get into such discussions about referees affecting games and such, but with Joey, there is clearly an agenda and it is ridiculous.)

At least the Spurs don't have Javie to worry about.

bigbendbruisebrother
04-26-2010, 09:16 AM
[QUOTE=polandprzem;4284340]http://www.abendblatt.de/multimedia/archive/00289/dirk_nowitzki_HA_Sp_289558c.jpg

All you guys who were feeling sorry for Dirk on the Game 4 Game Blog, take a close look at the picture above. Dirk is a dipshit.

carina_gino20
04-26-2010, 09:17 AM
At least the Spurs don't have Javie to worry about.

Doesn't Javie usually favor the road team?

MI21
04-26-2010, 09:20 AM
At least the Spurs don't have Javie to worry about.

I would love to have Javie officiating on the road in Dallas.

in2deep
04-26-2010, 09:36 AM
damn saving crawford for a possible game 7 I see

FromWayDowntown
04-26-2010, 10:14 AM
I think Poland is right. As I said yesterday, I thought Joey would almost necessarily have to have Game 5 of Phoenix/Portland, so that left the odd man out among Rush, Derosa, and McCutchen as the likely chief of Game 5 of DAL/SA. That appears to be true with respect to McCutchen.

(For whatever it's worth, I think Salvatore very likely has Game 5 of LAL/OKC.)

As for officials 2 and 3 for Game 5, I think they likely come from a pool consisting of:

Tony Brothers
Derrick Collins
Ron Garretson
Ed Malloy
Derrick Stafford
Greg Willard
Leon Wood

FromWayDowntown
04-26-2010, 10:15 AM
Nobody has Javie to worry about in the 2010 playoffs -- he's out with an injury.

So is Mark Wunderlich.

Nathan Explosion
04-26-2010, 10:33 AM
I would love to have Javie officiating on the road in Dallas.

I've read a stat where the Spurs have a losing record in games officiated by Javie. I'm looking for a link but I can't seem to find it at the moment.

FromWayDowntown
04-26-2010, 10:42 AM
I've read a stat where the Spurs have a losing record in games officiated by Javie. I'm looking for a link but I can't seem to find it at the moment.

Since 2000, the Spurs are 13-7 in playoff games that Javie has officiated.

But, again, nobody has to worry about it this year, since Javie isn't working in these playoffs.

MI21
04-26-2010, 10:43 AM
Nobody has Javie to worry about in the 2010 playoffs -- he's out with an injury.

So is Mark Wunderlich.

That's a bit of a shame, I don't mind Javie.

FromWayDowntown
04-26-2010, 10:47 AM
That's a bit of a shame, I don't mind Javie.

I actually think Javie is the best official in basketball. Few seem to agree with me, but I think he's the best play-caller in the game and the one official who is least likely to be swayed by coaches, players, or crowds -- particularly in big games.

duhoh
04-26-2010, 10:49 AM
refs who are generally not known by name by most usually are the most bearable :lol

MI21
04-26-2010, 11:05 AM
I actually think Javie is the best official in basketball. Few seem to agree with me, but I think he's the best play-caller in the game and the one official who is least likely to be swayed by coaches, players, or crowds -- particularly in big games.

Yeah, spot on. He is definitely the guy I want to see when the Spurs play on the road in the playoffs. At home you don't want to see him because you want as much home cooking as you can get :king

He calls it how he sees it and he is one of few referees that looks as if he is 100% confident on all the calls he makes. He is usually very consistent on both ends, too.

EricB
04-26-2010, 11:21 AM
I actually think Javie is the best official in basketball. Few seem to agree with me, but I think he's the best play-caller in the game and the one official who is least likely to be swayed by coaches, players, or crowds -- particularly in big games.


Agreed 1000%.

timvp
04-26-2010, 12:58 PM
I like Javie when the Spurs are on the road. He's not afraid to make the right call in front of a hostile crowd. Joey Crawford is the only other official who is close to Javie in that regard.

The worst to have on the road are Bavetta, Salvatore, Rush and Garretson.

Obstructed_View
04-26-2010, 01:18 PM
The Spurs have to win sixteen games, which means they're likely to see Joey Crawford at least once.

FromWayDowntown
04-26-2010, 04:02 PM
The Spurs have to win sixteen games, which means they're likely to see Joey Crawford at least once.

Absolutely. The further you go, the more certain that becomes.

There's no doubt that Joey is going to be a Finals official. That means he's going to likely do a game in each of the conference finals. And it's quite likely that unless the conference semifinals are decided unusually quickly, Joey is going to work at least one game in each of those series as well.

The same is true of Ed Rush, Bennett Salvatore, Dan Crawford, Scott Foster, Monty McCutchen, Ken Mauer, and Joe Derosa.

polandprzem
04-26-2010, 04:06 PM
So how many refs are there now in the playoffs?
And how it changes during rounds

EricB
04-26-2010, 04:07 PM
I like Javie when the Spurs are on the road. He's not afraid to make the right call in front of a hostile crowd. Joey Crawford is the only other official who is close to Javie in that regard.

The worst to have on the road are Bavetta, Salvatore, Rush and Garretson.


Yeah shame Stevie isn't reffing this post season

TampaDude
04-26-2010, 04:13 PM
I actually think Javie is the best official in basketball. Few seem to agree with me, but I think he's the best play-caller in the game and the one official who is least likely to be swayed by coaches, players, or crowds -- particularly in big games.

Same here...Javie is not afraid of the crowd, and he is a real "law and order" ref...he is firm, but fair. I always feel good about our chances with Javie reffing...he calls 'em as he sees 'em, and he doesn't try to "control" the flow of the game...he lets the players play.

It's almost a lock we're gonna have Joey C. for Game 6 if it gets that far.

FromWayDowntown
04-26-2010, 04:34 PM
Same here...Javie is not afraid of the crowd, and he is a real "law and order" ref...he is firm, but fair. I always feel good about our chances with Javie reffing...he calls 'em as he sees 'em, and he doesn't try to "control" the flow of the game...he lets the players play.

It's almost a lock we're gonna have Joey C. for Game 6 if it gets that far.

The ironic thing is that many Spurs fans were initially introduced to Steve Javie as a character during the 1996 Playoffs when a rash of quick calls on David Robinson during a game in Salt Lake City led to David's pronouncement that Javie's calls were "garbage" and that he was calling games personally.

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-05-17/sports/sp-5185_1_utah-jazz


Game 6, just like Games 3 and 4 at the Delta Center, was marked by another struggle by Robinson, who was scoreless in the first half. He picked up his third foul only 14 seconds into the second quarter, and Utah was ahead by 13 when he returned in the second half.

Robinson, ordinarily the league's poster boy for sportsmanship, could not hide his disdain for the officiating.

"That third foul was garbage, and I think it was personal," Robinson said of a questionable charging call by referee Steve Javie. "Every time I've seen him, things have been the same--not good. I don't appreciate him bringing that onto the floor."

Things have changed quite a bit since then.

polandprzem
04-26-2010, 05:09 PM
Same here...Javie is not afraid of the crowd, and he is a real "law and order" ref...he is firm, but fair. I always feel good about our chances with Javie reffing...he calls 'em as he sees 'em, and he doesn't try to "control" the flow of the game...he lets the players play.

It's almost a lock we're gonna have Joey C. for Game 6 if it gets that far.

I would prefer Joey rather then Rush, but hopefully we will win in 5.


yup I do also agree with you all about Javie. I think he is th best in the bussiness. I also do like Danny Crawford cause he let's players play and he does not like bullshit.

slayermin
04-26-2010, 11:50 PM
If it's Monty McCutchen, here are the stats I have for him:

Referee........W-L Pct.-......Avg FT Diff.-.....Avg FTA.....Avg Opp FTA.....PT Diff Avg.....PF Avg.....PA Avg
Monty McCutchen (6-5 .545)...........2.4............25.7............23. 4............... 4.3............99.5.............95.2

Here are the games he's worked.

GM Year Opp W L PF PA FTA OPP FTA Referee
5 2009 DAL L 93 106 19 25 Monty McCutchen
3 2008 PHX W 115 99 19 29 Monty McCutchen
11 2008 NOH W 99 80 18 13 Monty McCutchen
17 2008 LAL L 92 100 18 18 Monty McCutchen
2 2007 DEN W 97 88 23 17 Monty McCutchen
14 2007 UTA L 83 109 25 32 Monty McCutchen
1 2006 SAC W 122 88 32 20 Monty McCutchen
8 2004 LAL L 90 98 22 32 Monty McCutchen
3 2003 PHX W 99 86 29 25 Monty McCutchen
14 2003 DAL W 119 106 45 22 Monty McCutchen
9 2002 LAL L 85 87 33 24 Monty McCutchen

honestfool84
04-27-2010, 12:13 AM
I actually think Javie is the best official in basketball. Few seem to agree with me, but I think he's the best play-caller in the game and the one official who is least likely to be swayed by coaches, players, or crowds -- particularly in big games.

i agree with you 200%. i absolutely love Javie. he IS law, and he is definitely fair.

DesignatedT
04-27-2010, 12:24 AM
Monty McCutchen has been crew chief in 4 games so far this postseason. In all 4 games the home team has won with a point differential of +14.3.

phxspurfan
04-27-2010, 02:14 AM
I like Javie when the Spurs are on the road. He's not afraid to make the right call in front of a hostile crowd. Joey Crawford is the only other official who is close to Javie in that regard.

The worst to have on the road are Bavetta, Salvatore, Rush and Garretson.

Wow, you guys must have some awesome memories to have ranked all of the refs like this. I've been watching ball since I grew up, and though I remember who the refs are, I hardly ever remember who called what game or made what controversial call, and even more whether the team I was rooting for was at home or on the road with a hostile or benign crowd into it.

polandprzem
04-27-2010, 08:02 AM
Official officials for today


Monty McCutchen
Pat Fraher
Greg Willard

FromWayDowntown
04-27-2010, 08:37 AM
Hadn't figured Fraher would work a Game 5. Same with Zarba, who has one of the other games tonight. A slight change in the system, I think.

FromWayDowntown
04-27-2010, 09:00 AM
By the way, with the way the schedule breaks out across the league, I think this essentially ensures that Ed Rush was scheduled to be the lead official for Game 5 of CHA/ORL, which obviously won't happen; given today's assignments, Rush was the only chief who hadn't worked in that series and wasn't working tonight. We'll see if that changes where, if anywhere, Rush will go on Thursday.

For those on Joey Watch 2010, if he's not doing Milwaukee/Atlanta Game 5 on Wednesday night, there's an excellent chance that he's got SA/DAL Game 6.

temujin
04-27-2010, 10:26 AM
No Joey Crawford.
Tonight's a MUST win.

TampaDude
04-27-2010, 10:26 AM
Yesterdays games were officiated by

Salvatore
Mauer
Foster
D. Crawford

All of them were refs in spurs series


Today we have 3 guys

J.Crawford
J.DeRosa
E.Rush

That is leaving McCutchen alone heading to Texas

San Antonio @ Dallas: Monty McCutchen, Pat Fraher, Greg Willard

Spot on, mate! :toast

CGD
04-27-2010, 10:44 AM
At least the Spurs don't have Javie to worry about.

I would give anything to have Javie officiate gave 5 in Dallas.

EricB
04-27-2010, 11:10 AM
I would give anything to have Javie officiate gave 5 in Dallas.


Ditto. I wish he was in charge tonight...

MaNu4Tres
04-27-2010, 11:10 AM
I like Javie as long as we don't have Nick Van Exel on our team.

That experiment was a year too long.

His floaters from 10-13 feet in transition would enrage the hell out of me.

Crookshanks
04-27-2010, 12:05 PM
Steve Javie is a good ref - but he doesn't take any backtalk - he'll T a player up faster than just about anyone. Of course, if you've been in the league for any period of time, you know that, and you just keep your mouth shut and play.

CubanMustGo
04-27-2010, 12:12 PM
Monty McCutchen has been crew chief in 4 games so far this postseason. In all 4 games the home team has won with a point differential of +14.3.

EricB
04-27-2010, 12:50 PM
Small sample size...

41times
04-27-2010, 01:08 PM
Monty McCutchen has been crew chief in 4 games so far this postseason. In all 4 games the home team has won with a point differential of +14.3.

This makes up for Little DAnny Crawfored then!

Mavs win game 5 and we see Joey C in game 6. How fitting.

polandprzem
04-27-2010, 01:15 PM
Joey C cannot doom us
he's been a good ref. If spurs players stays cool as they were I'm not worried about Joeys ego coming up.

polandprzem
04-27-2010, 01:16 PM
btw. :wtf there will be no game six

:jack

Taco
04-27-2010, 01:24 PM
http://www.abendblatt.de/multimedia/archive/00289/dirk_nowitzki_HA_Sp_289558c.jpg

:lmao

FromWayDowntown
04-27-2010, 01:24 PM
This makes up for Little DAnny Crawfored then!

Mavs win game 5 and we see Joey C in game 6. How fitting.

You're still convinced that officiating has played some role in this series?

z0sa
04-27-2010, 01:31 PM
You're still convinced that officiating has played some role in this series?

I know I'm very happy to say it hasn't... thus far.

:stirpot:

EricB
04-27-2010, 01:37 PM
The officating has been good throughout the series. I think game 3 had some slight leverage towards the Spurs, but not enough to shift a game. And in game 4 the officiating was in favor of the Mavs (two flagrant fouls that were not really flagrant) and they lost that one too.



This times a million.

windboy226
04-27-2010, 02:00 PM
Pretty insane to think that there's this much discussion about the officials in any sport before a playoff game.

Solid D
04-27-2010, 03:41 PM
Good call, polandprzem.

polandprzem
04-27-2010, 03:55 PM
Good call, polandprzem.

Thanks
, but I think there was not much philosophy
When FWDT posted the 8 chiefs ... it was almost 100 that Monty will be the ref as he was not on a b2b and was not officiating the spurs series.

I was looking for that 8am ET though, refreshing the nba site few times to be the first ...


This crew is good crew IMO. Cannot remember much of their games though.
maybe a good thing.

Solid D
04-27-2010, 04:07 PM
McCutcheon usually tests the Spurs' patience a couple of times per game.

Creation88
04-27-2010, 04:16 PM
anything official?

duncan228
04-27-2010, 04:22 PM
anything official?

Yes.


Official officials for today

Monty McCutchen
Pat Fraher
Greg Willard

Cry Havoc
04-27-2010, 04:44 PM
Pretty insane to think that there's this much discussion about the officials in any sport before a playoff game.

Yeah. It's sad. =\

If the Mavs shoot 35+ FT tonight and the Spurs are in the low teens/high single digits, I'm going to be a wee bit upset.

Hopefully we'll continue to have fairly balanced officiating, as has been the case in this series thus far.

Obstructed_View
04-27-2010, 05:25 PM
I like Javie as long as we don't have Nick Van Exel on our team.

I always worried about Garretson when Nick was in town.:lol

alchemist
04-28-2010, 12:52 AM
Monty McCutchen has been crew chief in 4 games so far this postseason. In all 4 games the home team has won with a point differential of +14.3.
interesting :lol

Sisk
04-28-2010, 01:51 AM
^^ that's insane.

slayermin
04-28-2010, 02:23 AM
Fuck McCutchen.

Hopefully we get some combination of Capers, Willard, or Corbin on Thursday night.