Iphone 4G !!!!

[lefty]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/19/iphone-4-gets-reviewed/


http://media.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/iphone-4.jpg




http://media.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/giz-iphone-4-2.png

So maybe it was (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/18/dont-worry-that-wasnt-the-new-iphone/) the next iPhone (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/17/is-this-the-next-iphone/). Gizmodo somehow managed to get their paws on a prototype of what’s probably sure to be the next iPhone. Not only that, but they’ve snapped a bunch of pics, shot a few videos and even tore that sucker apart. Sadly the thing won’t boot up so there is a lot of info that will remain a secret until Stevesy hits the stage at WWDC this June, but for now we know the following:



It measures in at a petite 4.5″ x 2.31″ x 0.37″ and weighs 140g
It feels more sturdy and luxurious than the 3GS, yet feels good in the hand and in pockets despite its heft
The back is made of either glass or a “shiny plastic” (remember that ceramic material patent Apple holds? Could this be it?)
The chasis is milled aluminum
No way of verifying the displays resolution since it’s not possible to get past “Connect to iTunes”, but it’s definitely at a much higher resolution than previous devices
The camera has been improved and has a flash
Thereis indeed front-facing camera
Uses a micro-SIM just like the iPad
The 5.25 WHr at 3.7V battery has a larger capacity than does the one found in the 3GS

[Fpoonsie]

Neat.

My T-Mobile contract should be expiring about the same time this comes out.

Stoked.

[lefty]

My Fido contract expires in October 2010, but I will be eligilible for an exttension this summer

[Mixability]

if they keep that style for the actual retail version, that will be my next phone.

[lefty]

Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit :wow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7637585/Gizmodo-editors-home-raided-by-police-over-Apple-iPhone-4G-leak.html

[Cry Havoc]

This phone still looks far superior IMO:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/192286/sprints_htc_evo_4g_5_killer_features.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Evo_4G

http://www.unwiredview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/HTC-EVO-4G-Supersonic-Sprint-kickstand.jpg

http://dominicfallows.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/1b602_htc-evo-4g-01-top.jpg

Apple hasn't truly innovated since the first iPhone. The new iPhone seems like an incrimental improvement to the 3GS. Other than a higher resolution screen (which is unremarkable now for a smart phone), I see little here to be truly excited about.

The Evo will likely have a better or = camera, a bigger display with at least equivalent resolution, 720p video recording out of the box, a kickstand, and 4G service which allows it to double as a wifi hotspot for up to 8 devices. The Evo is the real deal. I'm doubtful the locked down Apple phone will be able to compete from an objective standpoint. Will it outsell the Evo? Certainly. Sales figures != quality, however.

[leemajors]

Good luck getting Android updates with Sprint. Isn't the Evo just a dressed up HD2?

[Cry Havoc]

Good luck getting Android updates with Sprint. Isn't the Evo just a dressed up HD2?

The HD2 is running Windows Mobile, and even then is considered an excellent phone by many reviews. The Evo 4G has a better camera, a front facing camera for videoconferencing, a better battery, and of course, Android.

Android will alleviate many of the Windows Mobile issues. Also, Sprint has nothing to do with the software updates, those are going to be through HTC and Google, so I'm not sure what you're referencing here.

[leemajors]

The HD2 is running Windows Mobile, and even then is considered an excellent phone by many reviews. The Evo 4G has a better camera, a front facing camera for videoconferencing, a better battery, and of course, Android.

Android will alleviate many of the Windows Mobile issues. Also, Sprint has nothing to do with the software updates, those are going to be through HTC and Google, so I'm not sure what you're referencing here.

The HTC Hero on Sprint is still running Android 1.5. Google isn't pushing them out to Sprint phones, it's the most common gripe about the phone/platform on that network. Verizon pushed out the 2.0 updates to the Droid, not Motorola or Google either. The only phone Google pushes out updates for to my knowledge is the Nexus One.

[ElNono]

Does the HD2 run iPhone OS 4?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Oh goodie. It has a kickstand. Where do I sign? :lmao

[EricB]

Any updates or anything on this? My father has been dying to buy one but I've been telling him to hold off cause this new one is coming.

Any idea when I can buy it for him?

[ElNono]

Apple normally announces new phones in June, IIRC. Patience grasshopper.

[nkdlunch]

I don't understand why ppl "die" to get new phones. Wait in line,etc,etc. It's nonsense IMO. Just wait a few months and get it like a normal human being.

[lefty]

I don't understand why ppl "die" to get new phones. Wait in line,etc,etc. It's nonsense IMO. Just wait a few months and get it like a normal human being.
This

I'm not gonna sleep in front of a store for a phone

[resistanze]

This

I'm not gonna sleep in front of a store for a phone

Exactly. I'm gonna stay awake!

[lefty]

Exactly. I'm gonna stay awake!
:lol

[Cry Havoc]

I don't understand why ppl "die" to get new phones. Wait in line,etc,etc. It's nonsense IMO. Just wait a few months and get it like a normal human being.

It would be much, much less of a big deal to me right now if my current phone (LG Neon) wasn't a huuuuuuuge piece of trash. I moved to DC and went off the family plan, and I didn't feel like putting a brand new contract on a 2 year old iPhone, so I decided to wait for the Evo.

Even if I was still using the iPhone though, I'd be pretty pumped about this new phone. Just not totally geeked like I am right now to own a phone that actually works and doesn't shut itself off 4 to 8 times per day for no reason.

[koriwhat]

that phone up there is cool but that kickstand is the dumbest fuckin idea i've ever seen!

[Cry Havoc]

that phone up there is cool but that kickstand is the dumbest fuckin idea i've ever seen!

That's interesting, because a lot of the tech blogs have been lamenting the fact that the iPhone lacks a kickstand. I'm pretty happy the Evo has one, even if it's not a necessary feature, it's nice to have.

Of course, I'm sure that you know better than they do. I guess having an option of using a feature on the phone is stupider than not having the option (which you aren't forced to use) in the first place. :lol :lol

[koriwhat]

That's interesting, because a lot of the tech blogs have been lamenting the fact that the iPhone lacks a kickstand. I'm pretty happy the Evo has one, even if it's not a necessary feature, it's nice to have.

Of course, I'm sure that you know better than they do. I guess having an option of using a feature on the phone is stupider than not having the option (which you aren't forced to use) in the first place. :lol :lol

i just think it's ridiculous. if you like it and use it, more power to you man. i like the phone however, looks nice.

[Spurminator]

In the meantime the iPhone 3GS is now $97 at WalMart.

http://www.birdabble.com/1147/updates-walmart-iphone-3gs-cut-price-to-97/

[Cry Havoc]

i just think it's ridiculous. if you like it and use it, more power to you man. i like the phone however, looks nice.

That's a lot more well-phrased than, "the dumbest fucking idea i've ever seen".

:tu

I doubt I'll use the kickstand a LOT, but at times it will be nice. Say I'm working and want to check out a new music video. I can prop the phone up and watch it while I work. Or use it on a TV tray if I'm flying or taking an Amtrak somewhere to watch a movie. Not a horrible feature to have, IMO.

[koriwhat]

That's a lot more well-phrased than, "the dumbest fucking idea i've ever seen".

:tu

I doubt I'll use the kickstand a LOT, but at times it will be nice. Say I'm working and want to check out a new music video. I can prop the phone up and watch it while I work. Or use it on a TV tray if I'm flying or taking an Amtrak somewhere to watch a movie. Not a horrible feature to have, IMO.

yeah i guess i can see your reasoning here... i don't travel much but it'd definitely be used if i did travel and owned that phone.

hey so you're in dc now? my brother lives out there and is always trying to get me to move there but i hear it's freakin' expensive. i think his wife and him pay $3k+ a month for a 600-700 sq ft condo. i want out of SA but damn those prices would send me to the crazy house.

i'm always all over the place with my thoughts so anyhow cool phone.

[Cry Havoc]

yeah i guess i can see your reasoning here... i don't travel much but it'd definitely be used if i did travel and owned that phone.

hey so you're in dc now? my brother lives out there and is always trying to get me to move there but i hear it's freakin' expensive. i think his wife and him pay $3k+ a month for a 600-700 sq ft condo. i want out of SA but damn those prices would send me to the crazy house.

i'm always all over the place with my thoughts so anyhow cool phone.

Yeah, living in DC. It all depends on where you live. I actually reside in Silver Spring right now... which is about 15 minutes north of the downtown DC area. Rent isn't bad. The townhouse I'm living in is about 1400 sq ft and it runs in the $2000 a month with all utilities included. It just varies widely based on where you want to live. Downtown DC is obviously ridiculously expensive, but the transit system is good so that's hardly a must. If you can live out north of Silver Spring, you can find a 1 BR apartment for $800ish a month with no problems.

[Drachen]

Another reason the kickstand was included was for the videoconferencing capabilities. It would be extremely annoying to try and hold the phone the whole time.

[Cry Havoc]

Another reason the kickstand was included was for the videoconferencing capabilities. It would be extremely annoying to try and hold the phone the whole time.

I can't wait to go all chatroulette on this biatch. :lol

[Drachen]

LMAO, I didn't even think about that.

"The new HTC EVO 4G for those who want to cock watch on the go!"

[koriwhat]

I can't wait to go all chatroulette on this biatch. :lol

talk to miamiheat about that... he knows all about chatroulette. haha

[stretch]

lol calf tats

[koriwhat]

man i knew stretch was a fag but to keep following me around the forum is a bit unsettling. you're such a queer and you know it!

[lefty]

Iphne HD leakage

Today's Apple press conference is not even over that someone posted a pic :lmao

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/111792658.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1275925327&Signature=7ruR6v%2FfR%2F%2FNajrGNTV3fi1hsHE%3D

[Cry Havoc]

Iphne HD leakage

Today's Apple press conference is not even over that someone posted a pic :lmao

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/111792658.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1275925327&Signature=7ruR6v%2FfR%2F%2FNajrGNTV3fi1hsHE%3D

Really? Link?

[lefty]

Really? Link?
I posted a pic, but it looks like the website has been taken down

Here is a another one

http://briefmobile.com/new-apple-iphone-called-iphone-hd

[lefty]

Launch date is June 24

[DJ Mbenga]

video calls looks good. now it makes sense why att did the 2gb cap. their system would collapse if it was unlimited data

[ElNono]

video calls looks good. now it makes sense why att did the 2gb cap. their system would collapse if it was unlimited data

Video calls are limited to wi-fi right now. I'm sure AT&T would love to tap that ass for the extra 'feature' running on their network.

But yes, ultimately, the removal of the unlimited option has to do with jailbroken phones going around the wifi limitation and still running it on the 3G network. And stuff like MiFi too. Now you also have 720P video...

[Cry Havoc]

video calls looks good. now it makes sense why att did the 2gb cap. their system would collapse if it was unlimited data

No, it doesn't.

[leemajors]

http://daringfireball.net/2010/06/iphone_4


It’s mentioned briefly in Apple’s promotional video about the design of the iPhone 4, but they’re using a new production process that effectively fuses the LCD and touchscreen — there is no longer any air between the two. One result of this is that the iPhone 4 should be impervious to this dust-under-the-glass issue. More importantly, though, is that it looks better. The effect is that the pixels appear to be painted on the surface of the phone; instead of looking at pixels under glass, it like looking at pixels on glass. Combined with the incredibly high pixel density, the overall effect is like “live print”.

[lefty]

Hands on, hands on, hands on !!!!!!!!!!


http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/i...irst-hands-on/ (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-first-hands-on/)

[lefty]

Oops sorry broken link

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-first-hands-on/

[EricB]

mines ordered. Ill be there next thursday at 7 ready to pay for it! muah hahahahaha

[Nathan Explosion]

mines ordered. Ill be there next thursday at 7 ready to pay for it! muah hahahahaha

I'll probably wait for mine for a bit even though the thing comes out 4 days after my birthday. I'll probably get it the following week or week after at the latest. I want to help my friend out who works for AT&T so I'm going through him to get it.

Help with his commission and to meet his numbers and all that jazz. And there's no way in hell I'm fighting the crowds to get the phone.

[ElNono]

I hear both the Apple Store and the AT&T pre-order pages are getting swamped... I also hear AT&T will ship it to you so you don't have to go near the store that day...

[lefty]

July in Canada


Fuck you Apple :lol

[leemajors]

I hear both the Apple Store and the AT&T pre-order pages are getting swamped... I also hear AT&T will ship it to you so you don't have to go near the store that day...

I got mine in before 8AM CST, the Apple page didn't offer shipping as an option so I pulled up the AT&T page and did it there. It states orders will be fulfilled starting the 24th, hopefully they end up shipping the 23rd.

[Nathan Explosion]

I got mine in before 8AM CST, the Apple page didn't offer shipping as an option so I pulled up the AT&T page and did it there. It states orders will be fulfilled starting the 24th, hopefully they end up shipping the 23rd.

I couldn't get on the AT&T site to upgrade yesterday. Today I went on and pre-order sales have been suspended. I take it people want this phone.

[EricB]

July in Canada


Fuck you Apple :lol


lol Canada

[Cry Havoc]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/some-iphone-4-models-see-signals-drop-to-0-when-held-left-handed/

It's sad in this day and age when we have so much hype for two phones and both of them have problems at launch.

The Evo's screen has grounding problems and the iPhone can't make calls when held in the left hand. :pctoss

[Cry Havoc]

Also:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/23/poll-is-your-iphone-4-retina-display-seeing-yellow-spots/

[Cry Havoc]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/6-24-10-valleyfair003.jpg

Geez. Look at the line!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/10x0624uob12413cweipo.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

God damn people love hype.

[Drachen]

Is it a known issue that Iphones are catching fire? My buddy just got a new phone (HTC, not evo so I am not trying to do the evo v. iphone), because his Iphone caught fire and melted. I looked online and apparently this is a growing problem. I hope they addressed this issue in the Iphone 4.

[Nathan Explosion]

God damn people love hype.

I asked my friend when his store is getting the next shipment. While technically I have more than enough money to get one today, there's no way in hell I'm waiting in a fucking line for a phone.

Plus my rent and car payment are due within the next 2 weeks. The new gadget can wait until then. I'm in no real hurry to get it, just as long as I get it.

[EricB]

I had no idea the reserved line would be this long. I have work at 11 am... If I am gonna get one it has to happen in the next 25 minutes...

[Nathan Explosion]

The store off of 1604 and 281 is dead according to my friend. He says he's just hanging out and collecting his OT.

[fraga]

There's gonna be alot of pissed off people with all the iPhones having those yellows spot issues...retinal display my ass...someboy at Apple gonna catch an ass whooping for this...major major black eye for the iPhone...

http://cache-01.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone_4_discolorationb_01.jpg
http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone_4_discoloratione_01.jpg
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone_4_discolorationf2_01.jpg

[ElNono]

My boss has been in line for 4 hours now... he said the line is moving very slowly.

About those display issues, what's going to suck is having to wait a week until they restock units in order to get a replacement. Unless water got into it, Apple has been pretty good replacing stuff...

[ElNono]

This might be harder to fix though:

03PQyWp0mWE

Basically, looks like by bridging the antennas with your hand, you end up killing the signal.
I guess those 'bumpers' are mandatory now... lame

[fraga]

Major Flaw Revealed (http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/video-massive-iphone-4-flaw-revealed-698653?src=rss&attr=all)

[ElNono]

I've read that by using one of their sleeves (bumpers) the problem goes away since it shields the hand from the antennas. So much for THAT innovation though...

[Cry Havoc]

This sucks.

Despite my postings about the Evo being superior, IMO, to the iPhone, I hate seeing this. It means thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are going to have bad days/weeks, and pay good money for a product that has a serious defect.

So, while I'm pretty happy about the fact that Steve Jobs was so arrogantly talking about how the antennae in the iPhone has "never been done before by any company in the history of the Earth" and now basically has to eat his words, it annoys me that Apple would release a phone with such a defect, which is probably a little more serious than either of the Evo's issues (screen grounding/lifting), to say nothing of the yellow spot issue.

Apple is still the shot-caller in the cell phone industry right now, and the better, more complete their launches are, the more pressure it puts on other developers to do the same. We could see a massive recall of iPhones due to this, and companies like HTC and RIM are undoubtedly watching and thinking, "Well, we don't have to pull off perfect product launches either!"

Either way, this is a lose-lose for the general consumer.

[ElNono]

Actually, the yellow spots is a normal issue that goes away after a day or two of use:

Apple is using a bonding agent called Organofunctional Silane Z-6011 to bond the layers of glass. Apparently, Apple (or more likely Foxconn) is shipping these products so quickly that the evaporation process is not complete. However, after one or two days of use, especially with the screen on, will complete the evaporation process and the yellow "blotches" will disappear. How do I know? I was involved in pitching Z-6011 to Apple.

From here (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4s-yellow-spot-issue-goes-away-with-a-bit-of-time/)

[ElNono]

This sucks.

Despite my postings about the Evo being superior, IMO, to the iPhone, I hate seeing this. It means thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are going to have bad days/weeks, and pay good money for a product that has a serious defect.

So, while I'm pretty happy about the fact that Steve Jobs was so arrogantly talking about how the antennae in the iPhone has "never been done before by any company in the history of the Earth" and now basically has to eat his words, it annoys me that Apple would release a phone with such a defect, which is probably a little more serious than either of the Evo's issues (screen grounding/lifting), to say nothing of the yellow spot issue.

Apple is still the shot-caller in the cell phone industry right now, and the better, more complete their launches are, the more pressure it puts on other developers to do the same. We could see a massive recall of iPhones due to this, and companies like HTC and RIM are undoubtedly watching and thinking, "Well, we don't have to pull off perfect product launches either!"

Either way, this is a lose-lose for the general consumer.

Considering it's fixable with a simple sleeve, I really don't think it's such a big of a deal. Potentially, all Apple has to do is hand out those things.
The screen issue had me more nervous, but that seems to be a non-issue too.

[fraga]

They're saying the sleeve is $30...I'd be pissed if I had to go out and spend even MORE money just to fix an inherent problem...Apple should send out free sleeves to it's customers...

[ElNono]

They're saying the sleeve is $30...I'd be pissed if I had to go out and spend even MORE money just to fix an inherent problem...Apple should send out free sleeves to it's customers...

Right. That's what I was saying. If this problem is verified, then they should ship out free sleeves.

[fraga]

Which they won't...

[ElNono]

Which they won't...

I'm afraid that if it's a easily reproducible problem, a class action will come quickly enough, especially in California. In that case, they might not have a choice.

[lefty]

I'm gonna get the Iphone 4, but I'll wait until Apple gets its shit together

I don't understand people who sleep in front of a store to be the first to get the newest Apple stuff

I have OS4 jailbroken on my Iphone 3G, so far so good.

I think I'm buying the Iphone 4 in early August

[DMX7]

I wouldn't ever sleep in front of a store to buy something.

[ElNono]

A jap dude started a line since last monday... lol

[BlackSwordsMan]

another long line tomorrow for a rubber sleeve

[ElNono]

another long line tomorrow for a rubber sleeve

:lol

I was reading that they were giving those away as a thank you for making the line... it's been 5 hours and boss isn't back yet :wow
He's nuts. No way I stay that long for a freaking phone.

[MannyIsGod]

5 hours for a fucking phone? Jesus Christ.

[ElNono]

Well, faster than the 3GS, but not faster than the iPad. The screen is unbelievable though!

[leemajors]

Well, faster than the 3GS, but not faster than the iPad. The screen is unbelievable though!

yeah it's ridiculous. i got a case from at&t right before i activated it, so not worried about the reception thing. face time works great. my friend who has an evo came by and we compared the screens side by side. the res on the iPhone is amazingly good.

[leemajors]

Which they won't...

you obviously aren't familiar with Apple's track record in somewhat similar situations. it may take a bit, but they will do something.

[ElNono]

I'm not using a sleeve, and while I noticed the bars coming up and down, I really havent had reception problems yet. made a few calls, everything good.

[ElNono]

Loving the extended battery life too...

[ElNono]

Also loving the 802.11n

[Frenzy]

Lots of bugs....not cool.

[Smooth Criminal]

Think I'm gonna wait for the White one...

[DMX7]

so how bad were the lines for you losers who camped out at the Apple La Cantera store?

[PM5K]

I remember stopping by before I dropped my wife off for work last year when the 3GS dropped and it was pretty big.

[leemajors]

I just had AT&T ship one to where I work.

[fraga]

you obviously aren't familiar with Apple's track record in somewhat similar situations. it may take a bit, but they will do something.

Apple's response...you're holding it wrong...

D'oh! (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphone-4-reception-issues-youre-holding-th/)

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Also loving the 802.11n

From what I understand that format just has a wider range. Is that correct? If so what kind of advantage does it give you? Simply a wider range, if that's the case?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

God damn people love hype.

Now that's rich.

[MannyIsGod]

From what I understand that format just has a wider range. Is that correct? If so what kind of advantage does it give you? Simply a wider range, if that's the case?

N also allows more than one channel to be used at one time (not sure if the iphone will have this benefit) which allows for more bandwidth.

[ElNono]

From what I understand that format just has a wider range. Is that correct? If so what kind of advantage does it give you? Simply a wider range, if that's the case?

No, it's a lot faster than 802.11g.

G max speed is 54Mbps.
N max speed is +100Mbps.

My router is not dual band though. A dual band router would give you even faster speeds and less interference. Range is improved also since the spec allows for a stronger signal range.

I upgraded my router to N when I got the iPad, and the speed and range difference is quite noticeable.

[ElNono]

N also allows more than one channel to be used at one time (not sure if the iphone will have this benefit) which allows for more bandwidth.

It does. Wifi is super speedy now. That the CPU is also faster probably helps too...

[ElNono]

Apple's response...you're holding it wrong...

D'oh! (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphone-4-reception-issues-youre-holding-th/)

:lol

Like I said, I see a class action coming from a mile away unless Apple hacks the signal display not to really reflect the signal strength...

[PM5K]

Apparently some tests have also shown that the 3G upload speed has increased over the 3GS. Don't know how or why but it's a welcome addition now that we have HD movies to upload.

[Nathan Explosion]

A friend of mine at work bought a sleeve at Best Buy when he got his phone. It cost him $30 but is actually a very nice cover that adds minimal bulk or even weight to it. I freaked out on how light the phone is, yet it doesn't feel fragile.

I can't wait until next month when I get mine, after I'm past my end of the month bills.

[leemajors]

yeah it is a solid feeling phone, like the original iPhone was. The 3G and 3GS were less solid feeling cause of the plastic.

[Cry Havoc]

No, it's a lot faster than 802.11g.

G max speed is 54Mbps.
N max speed is +100Mbps.

My router is not dual band though. A dual band router would give you even faster speeds and less interference. Range is improved also since the spec allows for a stronger signal range.

I upgraded my router to N when I got the iPad, and the speed and range difference is quite noticeable.

So you're telling me that you notice a difference in speed on the N connection? Because unless your internet provider gives you a line with over 60 mbps, there should be no difference in the speed your internet is downloading data with. Unless you're running high speed fiber, there is no difference in speed between an N router and a G. To say nothing of the ability of the website you're surfing on to give you 50+ megs of data per second.

[ElNono]

So you're telling me that you notice a difference in speed on the N connection? Because unless your internet provider gives you a line with over 60 mbps, there should be no difference in the speed your internet is downloading data with. Unless you're running high speed fiber, there is no difference in speed between an N router and a G. To say nothing of the ability of the website you're surfing on to give you 50+ megs of data per second.

54 Mbps is the theoretical max, or about 6 Megabytes per second. Average throughput is about 20 Megabits per second, or about 2.5 Megabytes per second.

I have:
- Two iPhones
- One iPad
- One Slingbox
- One Wii
- One Popcorn Hour

On the Wifi connection.

Just streaming/copying an HD movie to the Popcorn Hour would bog down the Wifi a lot with the 802.11g. Not to mention that the multiple antenna on the N give you more power, which means less interference and a lot faster throughput.

And no, I have cable at home. Download speed is about 20Mbps. I am moving to 50/20 FIOS (like we have at the office) as soon as Comcast jacks up the price one more time though.

[PM5K]

Yeah I don't know or care to know what the technical reasons are, but in my experience N is faster than G, even though both are theoretically faster than my internet connection. I get between 3-5 mbps faster on N than G.

[Kevin Durant 35]

Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit :wow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7637585/Gizmodo-editors-home-raided-by-police-over-Apple-iPhone-4G-leak.html

Wow wtf

[leemajors]

free case, only pay shipping:

http://www.boxwave.com/products/colorsplash/apple-iphone-4-colorsplash-case_3968.htm

[ElNono]

free case, only pay shipping:

http://www.boxwave.com/products/colorsplash/apple-iphone-4-colorsplash-case_3968.htm

Thanks, just ordered mine... $3.50 shipping... :D

[Cry Havoc]

free case, only pay shipping:

http://www.boxwave.com/products/colorsplash/apple-iphone-4-colorsplash-case_3968.htm

Meh. I only trust case mate and otterbox now.

[ElNono]

Meh. I only trust case mate and otterbox now.

I love SwitchEasy. Got some CapsuleRebel and they are top notch.

[leemajors]

Meh. I only trust case mate and otterbox now.

$3.50 is worth a shot

[PM5K]

Speaking of cases and the like: It seems like the quality of Zagg's InvisibleSHIELD has dropped since I bought my 3GS. One of the units just wouldn't go on without bubbles for anything, it almost seemed like it was wrinkled. Another went on perfectly but exhibited strange vertical lines. Another had a strange anomaly, almost like a tear in the material.

I actually went and bought two the last time I went to Best Buy because they didn't have any at my nearest location and I wanted to be set, but I didn't honestly think I'd have to use both but I did.

I don't know if it's only the 4th gen iPhone product, maybe based on trying to get them out quickly, or if it's their entire lineup or shields.

[resistanze]

I love SwitchEasy. Got some CapsuleRebel and they are top notch.

They look great, but my CapsuleRebels (along with a friend's) have an issue in where the bottom of the case (where the iPod connector is located) starts to sag down over time. It leaves your bottom area more exposed and tends to scratch the chrome bezel when it moves up and down. I'm not sure if that problem has been rectified or is only in some model.s

[ElNono]

They look great, but my CapsuleRebels (along with a friend's) have an issue in where the bottom of the case (where the iPod connector is located) starts to sag down over time. It leaves your bottom area more exposed and tends to scratch the chrome bezel when it moves up and down. I'm not sure if that problem has been rectified or is only in some model.s

My wife bought two (one white and one pink) and she haven't had a problem here. She did lose the little connector plug that comes with it, but most cases don't have a plug at all, so no big deal. I love that it comes with an adapter for the universal dock so you can dock it without taking the case off.

[lefty]

OMFG :lol


Apple is really insulting its customers



I'm sticking with my Iphone 3G


http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/02/apple-statement-iphone-4/

[Cry Havoc]

So, my girlfriend got the iPhone 4.

It's really, really sweet. Beautiful phone. Nice display, although the screen is a little too yellowish for my tastes. I prefer the coloration of the Evo by quite a bit. The iPhone seems to have better black levels and does better in bright sunlight, though.

However. We can't talk for more than 30 seconds on the phone with each other before she gets a call dropped from AT&T. That phone has SERIOUS reception issues, and not just "covering the antennae" problems.

[lefty]

So, my girlfriend got the iPhone 4.

It's really, really sweet. Beautiful phone. Nice display, although the screen is a little too yellowish for my tastes. I prefer the coloration of the Evo by quite a bit. The iPhone seems to have better black levels and does better in bright sunlight, though.

However. We can't talk for more than 30 seconds on the phone with each other before she gets a call dropped from AT&T. That phone has SERIOUS reception issues, and not just "covering the antennae" problems.
A firend onf mine living in Chicago has no reception issue

And no, he doesnt have a protective case yet


If you have an Iphone 4, you've got to put on a protective case anyway

[Cry Havoc]

A firend onf mine living in Chicago has no reception issue

And no, he doesnt have a protective case yet


If you have an Iphone 4, you've got to put on a protective case anyway

Some phones don't, some phones do, it seems.

Engadget reported that several of their iPhone 4's drop calls very frequently.

[The Gemini Method]

I wonder if the reception will be like it is in my situation. I've had the 3g for two years now, and I've maybe dropped less than 20 calls. I'm estimating the drops, it's just I haven't really had an issue with that. Watch as I buy the i4 and it'll reverse field and I'll drop every other call or something.

[lefty]

Some phones don't, some phones do, it seems.

Engadget reported that several of their iPhone 4's drop calls very frequently.

Yep.

I live in Canada and it looks like the Canadian release has been delayed (I know lol Canada)

Hopefully for better quality phones

[leemajors]

mine works perfectly. reception is way better than with my 3g, and I can play angry birds without chugging in midair. I was also finally able to beat pandamania without it crashing after the last boss fight. whee.

[Nathan Explosion]

I know a few people who have the phone and not a one has had any problems with it. I ordered mine already and should receive it in a week. Can't wait.

[Cry Havoc]

http://gizmodo.com/5573177/

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/13/iphone.4.duct.tape/index.html?hpt=C1

[lefty]

Found this in another forum; interesting

I'
ve had mine now for over a week and I have yet to encounter any signal loss using it as a field technician. Granted mine shipped late and perhaps Apple corrected the issue and kept it quiet to avoid people bringing theirs back.

[Cry Havoc]

It's so frustrating.

The phone is gorgeous. It's got a great screen, and I love the industrial look (what a change for an Apple product).

And yet, it's literally impossible to have an extended conversation on her phone. :pctoss

[lefty]

It's so frustrating.

The phone is gorgeous. It's got a great screen, and I love the industrial look (what a change for an Apple product).

And yet, it's literally impossible to have an extended conversation on her phone. :pctoss

You've got to buy a protective case anyway

You don't want to break your Iphone; plus it will solve the reception problem

[The Gemini Method]

It's so frustrating.

The phone is gorgeous. It's got a great screen, and I love the industrial look (what a change for an Apple product).

And yet, it's literally impossible to have an extended conversation on her phone. :pctoss

Does your girl live out of state?

I can't do the whole extended conversation thing with my lady. If its more than 10 mins I tell her to either come through or I'll be on my way to her spot.

[Cry Havoc]

Does your girl live out of state?

I can't do the whole extended conversation thing with my lady. If its more than 10 mins I tell her to either come through or I'll be on my way to her spot.

No, she lives ~8 miles from me. And when I say extended, I mean more than 30 seconds.

[The Gemini Method]

No, she lives ~8 miles from me. And when I say extended, I mean more than 30 seconds.

That is pretty bad. Man, Apple has me cautious to upgrade to the new i4...I should just wait until they address the problem if they already haven't.

[Samurai Jane]

I've had mine since Monday. I haven't had any dropped calls yet and I do hold mine with my left hand. I have seen the signal level drop when I've been playing with it. I think I would wait since I've heard there may be a recall coming anyway.

[lefty]

I've had mine since Monday. I haven't had any dropped calls yet and I do hold mine with my left hand. I have seen the signal level drop when I've been playing with it. I think I would wait since I've heard there may be a recall coming anyway.
Judyn?

[Samurai Jane]

Judyn?

No, sorry.

[lefty]

No, sorry.
Oops :D

That Panda in your avatar is misleading

[lefty]

Hehehe :D


Apple could be forced to recall its iPhone 4 even before Canadians can get their hands on the iconic company's latest smartphone, crisis-management experts say.
The California company says the iPhone 4 launch in the United States has been the most successful in its history, with sales topping 1.7 million units in three days, but the product launch in Canada this month could be mired in muck — or even delayed — after running into loads of trouble south of the border.
"I have heard from some sources at Apple stores that this reception issue could result in a delay," Vancouver-based Gary Ng, who blogs about all things Apple in Canada, said Tuesday. "Because we haven't heard anything from any of our carriers, there could be a delay, especially now that Consumer Reports has put out this report saying that with their testing, there is an actual hardware issue with the antenna, not just a software issue."


Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Technical+glitches+could+force+Canadian+delays+iPh one/3273291/story.html#ixzz0tgoppDQd

[leemajors]

http://gizmodo.com/5587029/iphone-4-silent-recall-some-readers-confirm

[The Gemini Method]

Well, that sells it for me--I'm waiting until Apple varies from its gestapo-like silence and tell me they've done something to remedy the situation.

[Heath Ledger]

Ive had mine a week. Im left handed so its not a strectch for me to hold it over the part of the antenna as mentioned. Ive had no reception issues. I have however dropped a few calls due to my face hitting end and even muted a few calls in the same manner. It does seem to be more sensitive than the 3gs was in that regard. Overall Im quite happy with the phone but am itching to jailbreak that shit. Why? Cuz I love the mewseek app free music is the shiznit. As well as some of the backgrounds and oh you can't forget mywii fuck AT&T charging what $30 to tether and with a 2 gig limit?

[ElNono]

I'm loving mine too. I have better reception that with my old 3G and obviously it's miles faster. I still haven't put a case on it.
The screen is just awesome.

[Samurai Jane]

I have however dropped a few calls due to my face hitting end and even muted a few calls in the same manner.

My husband has been doing this ALOT, including accidentally placing the other caller on speakerphone as well. As for me, I was talking on it to my 5 yo nephew and thought he was playing with the phone buttons and it turned out to be me hitting the keypad numbers with my cheek. :lol

[lefty]

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/iphone.gif

[Nathan Explosion]

Anyone see this? Apple is having a press conference tomorrow.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/

[Cry Havoc]

Anyone see this? Apple is having a press conference tomorrow.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/

I hope they don't hold this press conference the wrong way, or they won't have a very good reception, even if it looks like they are at full capacity. :lol

[lefty]

Anyone see this? Apple is having a press conference tomorrow.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-iphone-4-this-friday/
" We have discovered that you can also hold your Iphone with your feet ! Amazing reception! "

But seriously, they may announce the official release in other countries



Oh and by the way: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/15/schumer-letter-jobs/ :lmao

[lefty]

Wooohooo!



Got mine yeaterday








AMAZING stuff



No signal loss whatsoever

No grip of death (and I havent put a bumper or case on)

[Nathan Explosion]

I can't make mine lose the signal either, although I actually hold the phone in my right hand with my hand a but higher up on the phone. So I wouldn't accidentally apply the "death grip" on it anyway.

I love using this phone.

[lefty]

I can't make mine lose the signal either, although I actually hold the phone in my right hand with my hand a but higher up on the phone. So I wouldn't accidentally apply the "death grip" on it anyway.

I love using this phone.
I think It has more to do with ATT coverage in certain locations than the hardware itself

And Iphone 4 is so fast; my now ex-phone is an Iphone 3G with OS4; slow and had to be rebooted sometimes; it was frustrating

[Cry Havoc]

I think It has more to do with ATT coverage in certain locations than the hardware itself

That doesn't make sense.

How can you go from having 5 bars of coverage and crystal clear calling to zero bars in 2 seconds due to coverage?

If it's coverage, then why does a case suddenly make AT&Ts coverage better?

[lefty]

That doesn't make sense.

How can you go from having 5 bars of coverage and crystal clear calling to zero bars in 2 seconds due to coverage?

If it's coverage, then why does a case suddenly make AT&Ts coverage better?

I'm just speculating :D

I don't live in the U.S, so I'm not sure

[Nathan Explosion]

Don't pay much attention to CH. Even when you're trying to have a decent conversation about phones and are talking more about Droid phones, he has to find a way to bash the iPhone.

It's just his thing.

I don't have any problems with the signal, case or no case. Haven't dripped a call yet and I live near a radio station (about 4 blocks away). I've been working near an air force base and still no problems.

I've even been to the airport and haven't experienced a lose in signal.

What do all 3 have in common? They are all places where radio signals are very strong and could potentially cause interference.

[Cry Havoc]

Don't pay much attention to CH. Even when you're trying to have a decent conversation about phones and are talking more about Droid phones, he has to find a way to bash the iPhone.

That same phone I told my girlfriend to get when she said her contract was up?


It's just his thing.

I don't have any problems with the signal, case or no case. Haven't dripped a call yet and I live near a radio station (about 4 blocks away). I've been working near an air force base and still no problems.

I've even been to the airport and haven't experienced a lose in signal.

What do all 3 have in common? They are all places where radio signals are very strong and could potentially cause interference.

Deniers gonna deny. Those reviewers at Consumer Reports and Engadget... they're obviously just biased against the iPhone. Clearly, there's nothing wrong with the design. :lol

[PM5K]

If you bother to read there's no question the issue is hit or miss.

[lefty]

http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/040/447/original/Haters_gonna_hate.jpg?1266420870

[Cry Havoc]

If you bother to read there's no question the issue is hit or miss.

Exactly.

Which is why I completely believe someone when they tell me that their iPhone has no reception issues, even without a case.

It's apparently a one-way street, though, because many people who like Apple are bound and determined to show that their single anecdote of evidence is enough to prove that Antennae-gate is a myth.

[lefty]

Exactly.

Which is why I completely believe someone when they tell me that their iPhone has no reception issues, even without a case.

It's apparently a one-way street, though, because many people who like Apple are bound and determined to show that their single anecdote of evidence is enough to prove that Antennae-gate is a myth.
It is in Canada :lmao



Damn I love my Iphone 4 :married:

[ElNono]

It happens with mine without a case. But the issue is kind of more complicated than it seems. Before the 4.0.1 update, it used to show 5 bars all the time at work, then if I place my finger in that little bar on the bottom left, it would drop to zero.
After the 4.0.1 update, the bars at work never show more than 3. It's normally around 2 or 3. I still occasionally drop calls, but no worse than the 3G.

At any rate, I've got a case like 4 weeks ago and it just hasn't been an issue at all. I haven't even put on the free bumpers I received from Apple.
I even used it before without a case for the longest time and it wasn't a deal breaker either.

I love the phone. It's snappy, I'm really liking using Skype in the background, and the battery lasts like nobody's business. I don't think it has ever gone below 80% in a day's use.

[ElNono]

I would love to have this same phone under Verizon though.

[PM5K]

I would love to have this same phone under Verizon though.

Do what I did then, my name is Brian, btw:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1726/img0243p.png

[ElNono]

Do what I did then, my name is Brian, btw:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1726/img0243p.png

lol...

The screen res is amazing, BTW

[Wild Cobra]

lol...

The screen res is amazing, BTW
If that's 1:1, then it's 640 x 960.

nice.

My Behold II's is half that at 320 x 480.

[Nathan Explosion]

I love how people like to say that single anecdotes are proof that the problem doesn't exist. Frankly, I don't give a shit if everyone else is having the problem. I'm not and that's all I care about.

Having said that, the reception problem is like a Yani album; supposedly there are tons of them out there, and yet, I don't know anyone who has it.

[ElNono]

If that's 1:1, then it's 640 x 960.

It is.

[lefty]

Berizon :lol

[EricB]

I love how people like to say that single anecdotes are proof that the problem doesn't exist. Frankly, I don't give a shit if everyone else is having the problem. I'm not and that's all I care about.

Having said that, the reception problem is like a Yani album; supposedly there are tons of them out there, and yet, I don't know anyone who has it.


:lmao

Now thats an awesome analogy

[DJ Mbenga]

ill just get the i touch that will have facetime anyways.

[leemajors]

http://gizmodo.com/5608376/att-u+verse-app-download-prime-time-tv-to-your-smartphone

this is sweet.