Do you believe that the NBA is rigged?

[djohn2oo8]

I for one believe so. The obvious examples are the 2002 Kings/Lakers series, and Tim Donaghy. It might be less obvious if Stern would stop fining players and coaches for criticizing the refs, but of course he has a business to protect. I mean, if the integrity of the game is constantly questioned, and more evidence of referee gambling surfaces, would the casual basketball fan stop watching? To the non-NBA fan, the NBA is already tainted, and thought of as just thugs bouncing a ball. Stern doesn't want that image, and he'll do anything to try and get the image to be squeaky clean, hence the hefty fines.

[monosylab1k]

Not rigged, but there's definitely alot of corrupt shit going on in David Stern's office.

[BlackSwordsMan]

nah but some refs are just garbage

[SomeCallMeTim]

I for one believe so. The obvious examples are the 2002 Kings/Lakers series, and Tim Donaghy. It might be less obvious if Stern would stop fining players and coaches for criticizing the refs, but of course he has a business to protect.

Yes, because of course it is good for the integrity of the sport to allow everyone to complain about officiating. I mean, look at baseball, they allow everyone to call out umps on the field and after games with total impunity and it has eliminated all problems with officiating in that sport.

Great suggestions!

[djohn2oo8]

Yes, because of course it is good for the integrity of the sport to allow everyone to complain about officiating. I mean, look at baseball, they allow everyone to call out umps on the field and after games with total impunity and it has eliminated all problems with officiating in that sport.

Great suggestions!

The fans can see it too, so when the comissioner takes no steps to look at the problems, then why continue to put up with a broken product?

[peskypesky]

i think it sometimes is. but i don't think its the case most of the time or often. if it was rigged, no way in hell Spurs would've won 4 Championships.

[badfish22]

Not rigged, but there's definitely alot of corrupt shit going on in David Stern's office.

this

[J Zone]

I wouldn't be watching if I believed the NBA was rigged.

[Cane]

If you voted yes, why the hell do you watch the NBA then?

[ffadicted]

Influenced is the better word

[D2Procon]

If you voted yes, why the hell do you watch the NBA then?

To laugh at them.

[cobbler]

I wouldn't be watching if I believed the NBA was rigged.

And those that do and bitch about it are fools. :toast

[mavsfan1000]

Not exactly rigged but Stern is not punishing refs if they suck.

[ChrisRichards]

And those that do and bitch about it are fools. :toast
So you;re telling us Laker fan that you never bitched about the officiating against Boston in 2008?


STFU:lol

[cobbler]

So you;re telling us Laker fan that you never bitched about the officiating against Boston in 2008?


STFU:lol

Nope! Never. I never blame the refs for a win or loss. No doubt I may have posted a comment or two about a terrible call here or there but never that they changed the game. Championship teams don't let themselves get to a point where one or two calls will cost them. Of course the refs make mistakes all the time and are influenced by home crowds. It's part of the game. If you ever played at any decent level you would have experienced it. You haven't so you just whine like the bitch you are.

[sribb43]

Not rigged but definetly altered to assist certain teams to win

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Not exactly rigged but Stern is not punishing refs if they suck.


This is closest to how I feel. I don't think it's rigged, and I don't think Stern ever tells the refs to make a deliberate, concerted effort to help a certain team. I just think that Stern does a terrible job making sure the people who ref games are suited for the job. Someone like Bennett Salvadore who's been convicted of tax evasion shouldn't be a ref.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This pole should have been made public, anyone who watches a sport they think is rigged shouldn't be able to hide their vote.

[ChrisRichards]

Nope! Never. I never blame the refs for a win or loss. No doubt I may have posted a comment or two about a terrible call here or there but never that they changed the game. Championship teams don't let themselves get to a point where one or two calls will cost them. Of course the refs make mistakes all the time and are influenced by home crowds. It's part of the game. If you ever played at any decent level you would have experienced it. You haven't so you just whine like the bitch you are.
What I think of your post.


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Boogers, nothing but boogers.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

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:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[cobbler]

What I think of your post.


Prove me wrong moron.... show the posts where I have or STFU. What a little whiny obsessd bitch you are. :lol

[supervietnamlakers]

What I think of your post.


http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1liq8QpAW1qzdlzeo1_500.jpg


Boogers, nothing but boogers.
:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DJ Mbenga]

it cant be rigged. just look at the FT's the thunder are getting. just garbage and refs have their own biases and people to make happy with $

[LnGrrrR]

FWIW, I voted no. I'm a skeptic.

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

It isn't rigged. People who think it is should go watch another sport and leave these discussions out of forums.

[mogrovejo]

It might be less obvious if Stern would stop fining players and coaches for criticizing the refs, but of course he has a business to protect.

Teams can criticize and question refs all they want.


Not exactly rigged but Stern is not punishing refs if they suck.

Yes he is. Refs who suck don't go far in the NBA; or if they start sucking they don't stay on top for long.


i think it sometimes is. but i don't think its the case most of the time or often. if it was rigged, no way in hell Spurs would've won 4 Championships.

What if the Spurs don't win a championship in the next 30 years? Then it's rigged?

[JMarkJohns]

Teams still need to take advantage of the opportunities afforded them, but all too often, a select few teams seemingly get placed in the best position to do so, many, many times at the obvious expense of opponents.

It's not 100% certain, so not 100% rigged in that the outcome is absolute, but there's a lot of BS that makes it tough to click no as an answer to this question.

Stern sits back and lets this happen. He does nothing and says even less in condemnation of the BS. In olden days, silence equaled consent or approval of actions, policies, legislation. If he wanted to, he could change it, yet nothing changes...

[Bob Lanier]

People who think it is should go watch another sport
Why? What about a sport being rigged precludes its popularity?

Take politics, for instance.

[lurker]

I wouldn't say rigged, but I do think the amount of money the league makes off teams/certain players factors in to how they get treated by the officials/NBA office. I also don't think Donaghy was an "isolated criminal", as Stern called him. There are likely many more current and former refs that have brought their gambling addictions to work with them.

[Spursmania]

Influenced is the better word

Definitely influenced.

[spursfan1000]

I would say that Refs just are baised on the higher market teams such as Lakers and so on...

[supervietnamlakers]

i dont think its fake league but i know refs are human so they make mistake and sometimes they have bias if they dont like the player. same with everyone, we have feelings and at work we do things for people that are cool and we tell "no" to people that are nasty attitude.

[Jacob1983]

I don't think it's rigged but I do think refs can influence games with their personal prejudices and biases toward certain players. And yes, refs do have prejudices and biases toward certain players. Ask Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson. I think fans wouldn't bitch about the refs that much if they weren't propped as much and weren't as popular as they are. NBA fans care about their teams and players and the league's best players. NBA fans don't want to see the refs get publicity or fame. The refs should be as famous as the camera man or ball boy. When I watch an NBA game, I don't want to hear an announcer tell me about the life story of a fuckin' ref or hear them compliment a ref either. Seriously, it's ridiculous that even the average NBA fan knows the names and faces of so many refs in the sport.

[Phallusy]

Here is Tim Donaghy discussing some crap... From 4/27

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=5141041&########=1&callsign=ESPNRADIO

[greensborohill]

the correct answer is yes.

Certain situations are rigged

[greensborohill]

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS373&q=mcgrady+rigged+finals&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

[Halberto]

50/50?!?! You guys are fucking stupid. It's not rigged.

[Giuseppe]

Doin' Amare & Diaw that-a-way, and lettin' Duncan off the hook looked kinda suspicious.

tee, hee.

[lefty]

So 23 Lakers fans have voted no

[Fpoonsie]

If we win, no. If we lose, yes.

[greensborohill]

If we win, no. If we lose, yes.

+

[Basketballgirl25]

Do I believe the NBA is rigged? Yes

Do I care? No

I think it is rigged somewhat, but not as much as some people think. Adds drama which is always good. I say if people don't like the way the NBA is at time don't watch it, many other things in life to worry about then NBA being rigged

[SomeCallMeTim]

Surprised to see so many tinfoil hat wearers speaking up in this thread.

Seems I'd overestimated the average intelligence of ST posters.

[Muser]

Not rigged, just most of the refs suck ass.

[LnGrrrR]

Surprised to see so many tinfoil hat wearers speaking up in this thread.

Seems I'd overestimated the average intelligence of ST posters.

You've obviously never stepped into the politics board...