Bynum just being best Center of Playoffs so Far

[PGDynasty24]

Bynum (30.4 mpg): 13.2 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.2 apg, 58.3% FG, 58.8% FT, 2.2 bpg, 0.2 spg, 0.8 topg, 2.6 fpg

Dwight (26.5 mpg): 9.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.3 apg, 48.1% FG, 37.1% FT, 5.0 bpg, 0.8 spg, 3.3 topg, 5.5 fpg

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[ChrisRichards]

So, given a chance, you will not trade Bynum for Howard?

[PGDynasty24]

So, given a chance, you will not trade Bynum for Howard?

Of course I would. But isn't Dwight supposed to be a Top 5 player

[BlackSwordsMan]

he's not better than duncan

[The Gemini Method]

To be fair, Dwight Howard battled a threesome of sizeable centers in Charlotte. I don't think the Thunder have that center that really could impose on Bynum. Andrew has played well, though, and hopefully he can keep it up going forward.

[ChrisRichards]

Of course I would. But isn't Dwight supposed to be a Top 5 player

He is. Dwight is averaging 5 blocks a game, his team beat Charlotte in 5 games, mission accomplished. I credit Brown for making Dwight as useless as possible by advising his players to attack the basket and foul Dwight Howard out.


Bynum dominated Nenad Kristic. Nothing to be proud of really.

[Cane]

Dwight Howard is quite possibly the worst "best big man in the league"...ever.

But he sure as hell can rebound, block, and dunk with the best of 'em.

[The Gemini Method]

He is. Dwight is averaging 5 blocks a game, his team beat Charlotte in 5 games, mission accomplished. I credit Brown for making Dwight as useless as possible by advising his players to attack the basket and foul Dwight Howard out.


Bynum dominated Nenad Kristic. Nothing to be proud of really.

His team beat Charlotte in spite of his continuance on making boneheaded fouls. They won because Jameer Nelson played absolutely beatly basketball and the Bobcats couldn't shoot with any consistency. It wasn't like Howard was really dominant outside of blocking shots.

[NBAfan83]

Bynum > Howard

[21_Blessings]

Only 22, etc. :lol

[jacobdrj]

Will Bynum > Josh Howard

Fixed.

I mean, at least now the statement is debatable...

[ffadicted]

4 games, and Bynum will resume his non-factor style of play as soon as any legit big man is put in front of him

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

he's not better than duncan

So, Duncan is a center, not a power forward?

Seriously though, he isn't better than Duncan as a center. Didn't Timmy own him back in January?

Maybe they meet in the WCF, maybe not.

[DJ Mbenga]

Dwight Howard is quite possibly the worst "best big man in the league"...ever.

But he sure as hell can rebound, block, and dunk with the best of 'em.

hakeem would rape howard, heck even david robinson would too

[BlackSwordsMan]

So, Duncan is a center, not a power forward?

Seriously though, he isn't better than Duncan as a center. Didn't Timmy own him back in January?

Maybe they meet in the WCF, maybe not.

everyone knows duncan is a center stop trolling

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

everyone knows duncan is a center stop trolling

cool man. I also agreed with you, Duncan > Bynum. It isn't even close. :)

[Cane]

hakeem would rape howard, heck even david robinson would too

True that

[mogrovejo]

His team beat Charlotte in spite of his continuance on making boneheaded fouls. They won because Jameer Nelson played absolutely beatly basketball and the Bobcats couldn't shoot with any consistency. It wasn't like Howard was really dominant outside of blocking shots.

He was dominant to the point that the Bobcats made their entire defense and offense about him.

Nelson wouldn't have half of those looks if it wasn't for Howard's presence. He'd look a way lesser player.


Of course I would. But isn't Dwight supposed to be a Top 5 player

Nah, he's a top-3.

[TDMVPDPOY]

top3 but damn his overrated as hell...

[21_Blessings]

Seriously though, he isn't better than Duncan as a center. Didn't Timmy own him back in January?

Didn't Paulina Gasol face fuck Duncan? Oh yes indeed he did.


Maybe they meet in the WCF, maybe not.

The outcome would be the same either way

[DenDen]

Bynum (30.4 mpg): 13.2 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.2 apg, 58.3% FG, 58.8% FT, 2.2 bpg, 0.2 spg, 0.8 topg, 2.6 fpg

Dwight (26.5 mpg): 9.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.3 apg, 48.1% FG, 37.1% FT, 5.0 bpg, 0.8 spg, 3.3 topg, 5.5 fpg

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Stupid threads like this make Bynum overrated as fuck.. Howard gets attetion from the entire opposing team defense, and he still get impressive numbers. No one beside a purple n pisst homer gives a shit bout bynum..

[DenDen]

Dwigth Howard > Andrew Bogut > Will Bynum > Andrew Bynum, that's what's up..

[j.dizzle]

This is the first time hes been relatively healthy for a playoff run so just that is a plus IMO, two legit seven footers on 1 team that can post up & put up 20 & 10 any given night is damn rare these days.

[TheSpursFNRule]

Bynum is so fucking bad. GET OVER IT.

[tlongII]

Bynum (30.4 mpg): 13.2 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.2 apg, 58.3% FG, 58.8% FT, 2.2 bpg, 0.2 spg, 0.8 topg, 2.6 fpg

Dwight (26.5 mpg): 9.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.3 apg, 48.1% FG, 37.1% FT, 5.0 bpg, 0.8 spg, 3.3 topg, 5.5 fpg

Camby (31.2 mpg): 6.2 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.4 apg, 41.2 % FG, 50% FT, 1.4 bpg, 0.6 spg, 0.2 topg, 3.0 fpg

[SomeCallMeTim]

Bynum (30.4 mpg): 13.2 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.2 apg, 58.3% FG, 58.8% FT, 2.2 bpg, 0.2 spg, 0.8 topg, 2.6 fpg

Dwight (26.5 mpg): 9.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.3 apg, 48.1% FG, 37.1% FT, 5.0 bpg, 0.8 spg, 3.3 topg, 5.5 fpg

Camby (31.2 mpg): 6.2 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.4 apg, 41.2 % FG, 50% FT, 1.4 bpg, 0.6 spg, 0.2 topg, 3.0 fpg

None of these big men are making their FTs. Terrible percentages even by their modest standards.

[eisfeld]

If you just take the stats into account then yes Bynum > Howard in this series on offense. Defensively Howard still gets the edge.

If you take the players the two matched up with into account then Howard > Bynum.

Ratliff, Mohammed, Chandler >>>>> Krstic, Thomas

[mogrovejo]

Howard doesn't need to put up numbers to impact the games offensively. He's the reason why Orlando perimeter players are so productive.

[mogrovejo]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/04/19/1387017/felton-not-alone-in-failing-to.html

Felton not alone in failing to stop Nelson

Orlando point guard made Bobcats pay for focusing their defense on Howard in Game 1


By Rick Bonnell
[email protected]
Posted: Monday, Apr. 19, 2010


ORLANDO, Fla. The "crib midget" going off during the first half of Sunday's playoff game wasn't all Raymond Felton's fault.


"Crib midget" is Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard's nickname for point guard Jameer Nelson, a 6-foot rocket who made 10 of 12 first-half shots and scored 24 points in the Charlotte Bobcats' Game 1 loss. He finished with 32 points.

"We kind of left Ray out there to dry," guard Stephen Jackson said of how little defensive help Felton got early.


The problem runs to the core of what got the Magic to the NBA Finals last season; how do you keep Howard from dunking you into submission without conceding open jump shots to every other Orlando player?

The Magic annihilated the Bobcats in early game pick-and-roll, in part because Charlotte's big men were instructed to stay back with Howard, rather than jump out in the direction of Nelson to cut off his movement with the ball.


Howard scored just two first-half points, but by the time the Bobcats focused on Nelson, he'd made four of six 3-point attempts.


"We didn't do a good job of helping Raymond, and (Nelson) made a lot of shots where, no matter how much we helped Raymond, it wasn't going to change the outcome," Brown said Monday.


"Maybe we didn't find (Nelson) in transition, maybe our bigs weren't attached (to the dribbler) when they ran pick-and-roll. And (Nelson) was phenomenal."
They can't afford much more phenomenal from Nelson if they expect to compete in this best-of-7 series.


"We definitely have to guard that screen-and-roll better, but we won the third and fourth quarters," Felton said. "Our game plan was for the bigs to sit back and stay with (Howard). The bigs weren't wrong and I wasn't wrong. We had to give up something, and that was the shot from Jameer."


This was Felton's first playoff game and, just as Jackson predicted, he was initially shocked by the intensity.


"It was different and my body is feeling it right now. The level of physicalness is definitely different from the regular season," Felton said. "You've got to be much more focused, more tuned-in, because every possession counts.
"I'm good now - I'm ready for Game 2."

[mogrovejo]

The other day I read an article written by one of the Lakers assistant coaches, Jim Cleamons, where he was explaining their strategy for last season finals and the first thing they focused when preparing the series was on Orlando transition 3s.

Why is Orlando such a good team in the transition/secondary break? Well, one reason is because they have good shooters and know how to run the floor, but one equally as important is Howard's presence - he runs the floor so well for a big and is so difficult to stop 1x1 especially when he catches rolling to the basket that he forces teams to sink too deep or to not close out on shooters.

[TheManFromAcme]

hakeem would rape howard, heck even david robinson would too

:tu

Yuppers.

But I'd still take me some Dwight over Drew. Right now that is. If Drew really ever blossoms into what he can potentially be, I may channge my tune.

[Muser]

Those OKC big men sure are great!

[Giuseppe]

Ya stutterin' pricks, ya. PG has the Board rank & file turdhounds in hot pursuit chasin' their assholes round their elbows.

It's absolutely adorable.

[lefty]

Bynum (30.4 mpg): 13.2 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.2 apg, 58.3% FG, 58.8% FT, 2.2 bpg, 0.2 spg, 0.8 topg, 2.6 fpg

Dwight (26.5 mpg): 9.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.3 apg, 48.1% FG, 37.1% FT, 5.0 bpg, 0.8 spg, 3.3 topg, 5.5 fpg

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Considering the lack of true Centers nowadays, it's not really an achievement.


FAIL

[Giuseppe]

Considering the lack of true Centers nowadays, it's not really an achievement.


FAIL

Perhaps, but, couple PG's cited stats line with Howard bent over in Florida last Summer, Bynum 8 inches deep in his caboose and it's pretty sweet.

tee, hee.

[NBAfan83]

good offensive centers are harder to find than good defensive centers, dwight's gonna lose his athleticism way faster than bynum and he'll be stuck with a shaky jump hook, and weak ass lay ups.

Bynum, will probably be playing when he's 38, dwights gna retire when he's 32

[TheManFromAcme]

good offensive centers are harder to find than good defensive centers, dwight's gonna lose his athleticism way faster than bynum and he'll be stuck with a shaky jump hook, and weak ass lay ups.

Bynum, will probably be playing when he's 38, dwights gna retire when he's 32

Cool analysis. Never looked at it through that angle. Dwights extreme atheleticsm is what might contribute to his early retirement. Your legs with that height can only take so much. I am not saying that Drew is some lethargic Koala bear but he's just not that, for lack of a better term, mobile nor lightning fast. I like Drew's overall footwork compared to Dwight but Dwight's hovering presence is what makes him a beast right now.