Is being '7 "2 and shooting fadeaways over pg's....

[Ignignokt]

make you a warrior?

Seriously. If Timothy Gaylord Duncan were to have post up derek fisher and made a clutch shot in which he would then get pumped and throw a punch in the air as if he accomplished something, could we live with ourselves if we considered that heroic.

Just remember that when other cuck spurfans suggest we should give dirk mad props for being a warrior.

[jag]

7'2"??

[MannyIsGod]

As if bigs do any better on him. Stupid thread.

[Ignignokt]

7'2"??

thanx guy.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lame ass thread

even if dirk did show up with wilt stats, ppl will find ways to bash his game...fck that shit

[Cane]

No but being a 7 foot shooter that makes two stupid fouls against a guard in an elimination game does make you a warrior...

Oh wait nevermind.

[Ignignokt]

As if bigs do any better on him. Stupid thread.

35% of his scoring is on bigs... the rest is on ft's and people like roger mason.

If he were to be a post player he'd get worn out and wouldn't avg as much, also would be a slightly below avg defender.

[Cry Havoc]

Does it matter? He hits the shot. If he's more comfortable shooting a fadeaway in his natural rhythm, more power to him.

[Dex]

26.7 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 3 assists on 54% shooting (including 57% from three and 95% from the line) in 38 minutes a game?

Yes, I'd say that makes Dirk a warrior for this series.

[Ignignokt]

lame ass thread

even if dirk did show up with wilt stats, ppl will find ways to bash his game...fck that shit

Crofl Crofl Crofl!!!

Duncan went up against Dice/Sheed/ Wallace/Shaq/Stoudemire/KG/Malone in his prime face to face in the 4th qtr.

Dirk camped out at the perimeter and went up against Bruce Bowen/Sjax/ Nate Robinson/ Lady Gaga/ Becky Hammon/ George Costanza because his tall ass lounges on the perimeter. Only when the officiating is favoring the Mav's does that asshole drive it in.

[MannyIsGod]

35% of his scoring is on bigs... the rest is on ft's and people like roger mason.

If he were to be a post player he'd get worn out and wouldn't avg as much, also would be a slightly below avg defender.

Its ironic that you're making him out to be less than Duncan for lacking style instead of taking a look at his substance.

Ironic as hell.

In any event, Dirk is a hell of a player. He's probably the only one on the Mavs I can actually stand.

[Ignignokt]

26.7 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 3 assists on 54% shooting (including 57% from three and 95% from the line) in 38 minutes a game?

Yes, I'd say that makes Dirk a warrior for this series.

Dude

Brah

iF i were to have sequspur and angeluv guard me in pickup games i'd shoot at the same rate.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW, no one here is arguing Duncan > Dirk so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

[jag]

thanx guy.

np. You looked like you needed help, guy.

[FkLA]

agreed ive never been a fan of his style, when i think warrior i think of guys that are fearless and attack the basket relentless not this...the fact that he flops so much after sticking his elbow into defenders to create seperation when going up for the shot also really bothers me. check the one-handed off the glass and1 he got on Dice today...he pump fakes than throws his elbow into Dice and goes flying as if he he was hammered, he also tried to flop early in the game and fell to the floor but the refs ignored it.

he's a great player and has a great shot, but i cant say im a fan of his style. also warriors dont pick up ridiculous fouls like his 3rd and 4th fouls were he left his team out to dry when they were getting hammered in the 1st half...the run and momentum change happened at the end of the 1st half without Dirk, Beoubis was the one that brought them to life and than Dirk came in in the 2nd half to help him out.

[MannyIsGod]

Miller wasn't a warrior because he shot jump shots. Jordan wasn't a warrior later in his career because he shot jump shots.

:lol

So stupid.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Dirk is a great player.

I don't get why so many spurstalkers are scoffing him after we get our sweet revenge. He fucking tore into us almost every game. Name one other player in the game so fucking deadly at jump shots. He is what he is.
There are like 6 other players on that roster that deserve more scoffage than him.

[Ignignokt]

Its ironic that you're making him out to be less than Duncan for lacking style instead of taking a look at his substance.

Ironic as hell.

In any event, Dirk is a hell of a player. He's probably the only one on the Mavs I can actually stand.

Style?

I didn't see a style argument in that one. Face it, we give props to dirk for shooting a high percentage over beno udrih, jacque vaughn, tony parker, nate robinson and the barbosas of the world.

[MannyIsGod]

Style?

I didn't see a style argument in that one. Face it, we give props to dirk for shooting a high percentage over beno udrih, jacque vaughn, tony parker, nate robinson and the barbosas of the world.

Why don't coaches guard him with bigger players?

And yeah style. You're scoffing him based on how he scores his points, not IF he scores them.

[Ignignokt]

Miller wasn't a warrior because he shot jump shots. Jordan wasn't a warrior later in his career because he shot jump shots.

:lol

So stupid.

Why do you hate reading?

Jordan was guarded by shooting guards, people taller or of the same height, so with Miller. Dirk shoots over Beno Udrih, and we call him a warrior.

[MannyIsGod]

Why do you hate reading?

Jordan was guarded by shooting guards, people taller or of the same height, so with Miller. Dirk shoots over Beno Udrih, and we call him a warrior.

So because he has a skillset you rarely see in a seven footer that makes him LESS of a player?


:lmao

[jag]

Why don't coaches guard him with bigger players?



Exactly. Dude shits on post players guarding him. He's a matchup nightmare and it's because he has such a multifaceted offensive game. How is this difficult to comprehend?

[Ignignokt]

Why don't coaches guard him with bigger players?

And yeah style. You're scoffing him based on how he scores his points, not IF he scores them.

that's simplifying my argument. If i said dirk should not be considered a tough guy warrior because he shoots shots.. then you'd have a point.

It's who his competition is. yeah he's a matchup nightmare, but does he go to battle against men his size in the clutch.. No way jose. THat guy defers and lets all the midgets in his team do most of the inside game.. It's like topsy turvy world.

I mean it's not his fault he can shoot jumpers at an efficicient rate, and that not many big men are as mobile as he is. Just, don't expect me to give him props for beating up on midgets more than half the time, not his fault, but don't give me that shit.

[BlackSwordsMan]

hes a perfect fit on the spurs next year

[Ignignokt]

So because he has a skillset you rarely see in a seven footer that makes him LESS of a player?


:lmao

less of a player in what sense.. i'm just saying he's not a fucking hero.

[jag]

Genius thread

[MannyIsGod]

that's simplifying my argument. If i said dirk should not be considered a tough guy warrior because he shoots shots.. then you'd have a point.

It's who his competition is. yeah he's a matchup nightmare, but does he go to battle against men his size in the clutch.. No way jose. THat guy defers and lets all the midgets in his team do most of the inside game.. It's like topsy turvy world.

I mean it's not his fault he can shoot jumpers at an efficicient rate, and that not many big men are as mobile as he is. Just, don't expect me to give him props for beating up on midgets more than half the time, not his fault, but don't give me that shit.

:lmao

I can usually find some logic in your political arguments even if I don't agree with tit.

This is just flat out fucking retarded.

Have fun trying to get anyone agree with your view here.

[Ignignokt]

Dirk is a great player.

I don't get why so many spurstalkers are scoffing him after we get our sweet revenge. He fucking tore into us almost every game. Name one other player in the game so fucking deadly at jump shots. He is what he is.
There are like 6 other players on that roster that deserve more scoffage than him.

Yeah he's a great player.. so was malone.. but do we consider him a heroic player.. many will argue not since his balls would shrivel in the clutch.


Great Player does not equal a heroic, warrioresque performer. I don't see what's the problem here.

[MannyIsGod]

less of a player in what sense.. i'm just saying he's not a fucking hero.

:lmao

Dude is money down the stretch. Its not his fault that his team and his coach aren't as good.

This thread is so hillarious.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Dirk gets shit for being white the same way Tony gets shit for being French.

If Tony played exactly the way he did now but was a local black, he'd have legions of black fans that he does not have now. And he'd get credit for being the tough ass mofo that he is.

If Dirk were black he'd get less babied by the refs but would actually get more credit from the fanbases around the country.

As if every 7 foot black guy has the skillset that Dirk has. GMAFB. He's really really good. Where people err is when they assume he can take you to a championship. Why can't he be just a good player? He obviously needs a player better than him to get his ring. But that doesn't diminish how fuckin bad ass he is. He is what he is. He's a great player. But as spurs fans' who love Duncan its easy to scoff the shit out of him, but that makes it sound as if every other team out there has a Duncan.

He is what he is.
He's damn good.

But he needs a better player than himself if he wants to ever get that ring.

[MannyIsGod]

Dirk = David before Tim.

All people remember now about David is the rings. When was the last time you heard Robinson referred to as Little Mermaid?

If Dirk wins a ring, thats anyone will remember. But none of that changes the dude plays his ass off and is a hell of a player.

[Ignignokt]

:lmao

I can usually find some logic in your political arguments even if I don't agree with tit.

This is just flat out fucking retarded.

Have fun trying to get anyone agree with your view here.


Rofl..

what's retarded is you trying to shift the argument to whether he has talent or if he is a great player, i believe this thread is about whether he's a heroic warrior. That is an oppinion based argument that numbers can't quantify.

I bet you will find many a great players in the Nba who put up great numbers but who were not of the warrior mentality. That's not a contradiction.

Dirk bricked free throws to win a championship, uncontested, in his prime, without Plantar fascitis, on a skill set that comes natural to him.. shooting.

Bricked...


That's like you missing the toilet water and shitting the bowl on a routine shit.. that's like not cool breh.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Manny and I actually agree on something non latino rights related = /end thread

[MannyIsGod]

Dirk also hit an and 1 in a Game 7 in a hostile arena in the 2nd round that year to get them there. I know though, it was only a foul by a shooting guard so obviously that makes it unclutch.

[Ignignokt]

:lmao

Dude is money down the stretch. Its not his fault that his team and his coach aren't as good.

This thread is so hillarious.

LOLOLOLOL....


Bricked Free throws...

Miami...

Warrior lolololol!!!

[MannyIsGod]

K.

[spursfan1000]

Spurs were putting guards on Dirk on the way they were rotating. Dirk was doing just as good when he was being guarded by Mcdyess and Duncan. He is just a beast, there is no way around it, he is unstopable.

[Ignignokt]

Dirk also hit an and 1 in a Game 7 in a hostile arena in the 2nd round that year to get them there. I know though, it was only a foul by a shooting guard so obviously that makes it unclutch.

haH!!! You totally have a broad definition of clutch. He got bailed by a stupid mistake. He recieved favorable calls all series long and was playing a debilitated spurs team. His team was dominating the whole series and he gets bailed out by a retarded ginobilli move. That's not clutch.

In that case, Robert horry's/nash incident was clutch.:rollin

thanks for strenghtening my argument.

[Ignignokt]

Spurs were putting guards on Dirk on the way they were rotating. Dirk was doing just as good when he was being guarded by Mcdyess and Duncan. He is just a beast, there is no way around it, he is unstopable.

yeah he totally is.

He's a matchup nightmare. :toast

[MannyIsGod]

haH!!! You totally have a broad definition of clutch. He got bailed by a stupid mistake. He recieved favorable calls all series long and was playing a debilitated spurs team. His team was dominating the whole series and he gets bailed out by a retarded ginobilli move. That's not clutch.

In that case, Robert horry's/nash incident was clutch.:rollin

thanks for strenghtening my argument.

k

[Ignignokt]

Dirk gets shit for being white the same way Tony gets shit for being French.

If Tony played exactly the way he did now but was a local black, he'd have legions of black fans that he does not have now. And he'd get credit for being the tough ass mofo that he is.

If Dirk were black he'd get less babied by the refs but would actually get more credit from the fanbases around the country.

As if every 7 foot black guy has the skillset that Dirk has. GMAFB. He's really really good. Where people err is when they assume he can take you to a championship. Why can't he be just a good player? He obviously needs a player better than him to get his ring. But that doesn't diminish how fuckin bad ass he is. He is what he is. He's a great player. But as spurs fans' who love Duncan its easy to scoff the shit out of him, but that makes it sound as if every other team out there has a Duncan.

He is what he is.
He's damn good.

But he needs a better player than himself if he wants to ever get that ring.

Dirk is a good player.

:toast

But that's not what this thread is about.

[Ignignokt]

k

hm

[100%duncan]

fuck u gaylord huh?

[Ignignokt]

If tim Duncan were to put up 35 pts 29 rbs vs the Korean National team.. would we consider his performance clutch.


I mean, you can't fault tim duncan for being taller, stronger and splacker than the Joon Kim...

[Drachen]

that's simplifying my argument. If i said dirk should not be considered a tough guy warrior because he shoots shots.. then you'd have a point.

It's who his competition is. yeah he's a matchup nightmare, but does he go to battle against men his size in the clutch.. No way jose. THat guy defers and lets all the midgets in his team do most of the inside game.. It's like topsy turvy world.

I mean it's not his fault he can shoot jumpers at an efficicient rate, and that not many big men are as mobile as he is. Just, don't expect me to give him props for beating up on midgets more than half the time, not his fault, but don't give me that shit.

Umm . . . antonio mcdyss?

[Ignignokt]

Shit.. the spurs forced a game 7 vs a slanted reffed series being down 3-1.. almost overcome all odds only to have one of their guards bailout a 7'2 german.. yet Manny wants to give Dirk the clutch factor award.

Wow.. we spurfans are slippin'

[Drachen]

haH!!! You totally have a broad definition of clutch. He got bailed by a stupid mistake. He recieved favorable calls all series long and was playing a debilitated spurs team. His team was dominating the whole series and he gets bailed out by a retarded ginobilli move. That's not clutch.

In that case, Robert horry's/nash incident was clutch.:rollin

thanks for strenghtening my argument.

Hmm, didn't he take it to the hole in the clutch? Oh and he wasn't guarded by Gino, its just that manu came over to try (stupidly) to stop the shot.

[Ignignokt]

Umm . . . antonio mcdyss?

totally.. mcdyess is like old.

[Ignignokt]

Hmm, didn't he take it to the hole in the clutch? Oh and he wasn't guarded by Gino, its just that manu came over to try (stupidly) to stop the shot.

earlier post... covered that explanation..

Crofl Crofl Crofl!!!

Duncan went up against Dice/Sheed/ Wallace/Shaq/Stoudemire/KG/Malone in his prime face to face in the 4th qtr.

Dirk camped out at the perimeter and went up against Bruce Bowen/Sjax/ Nate Robinson/ Lady Gaga/ Becky Hammon/ George Costanza because his tall ass lounges on the perimeter. Only when the officiating is favoring the Mav's does that asshole drive it in.

[sabar]

Do you know what the meaning of "warrior" is figuratively? Dirk fits the definition perfectly. It isn't about being a man or being physical. It's just being aggressive and having that drive to win.

Dirk also torches big men on the perimeter AND inside, so I don't see how shooting over midgets has to do with anything when that is caused by the other team's rotations.

Failure of a thread.

[gospursgojas]

Gosh get off dirks nuts already. He's never won anything except an mvp and he had to accept that in a press conference bc he had already been eliminated in the 1st round by an 8th seed. This is the best team he'll ever be on and he is yet again going home empty handed.

[Ignignokt]

Do you know what the meaning of "warrior" is figuratively? Dirk fits the definition perfectly. It isn't about being a man or being physical. It's just being aggressive and having that drive to win.

Dirk also torches big men on the perimeter AND inside, so I don't see how shooting over midgets has to do with anything when that is caused by the other team's rotations.

Failure of a thread.

Utter disaster!


PWNAGE!!

FAIL!!!

LOL CATS!!!

[Ignignokt]

Do you know what the meaning of "warrior" is figuratively? Dirk fits the definition perfectly. It isn't about being a man or being physical. It's just being aggressive and having that drive to win.

Dirk also torches big men on the perimeter AND inside, so I don't see how shooting over midgets has to do with anything when that is caused by the other team's rotations.

Failure of a thread.

Dirk is a warrior when the odds are on his side, but he shrivels in adversity.

See the GS series, miami.

Dirk like stops playing defense and checks out and doesn't get involved.
Duncan maybe face a healthy 4 man rotation in the post, get hacked.. but that dude never gives up and still plays D.

Dirk is not a warrior. end of story.

[jag]

Gosh get off dirks nuts already. He's never won anything except an mvp and he had to accept that in a press conference bc he had already been eliminated in the 1st round by an 8th seed. This is the best team he'll ever be on and he is yet again going home empty handed.

When this guy agrees with you, you know you've got a gem of a thread.

[Ignignokt]

When this guy agrees with you, you know you've got a gem of a thread.

When this kind of argument is brought up, you know the opposition has run out of ammo.

[jag]

Good point. It takes a lot of ammo to refute this kind of take.

[Ignignokt]

Good point. It takes a lot of ammo to refute this kind of take.

whatever kid.

[jag]

whatever kid.

Good point.

[Ignignokt]

So you're JaG? Nice vbookie cash, hombre :tu

[jag]

I can't even see my vbookie cash right now so i don't know what that means. I'll just assume it's some quality smack that i won't be able to handle.

[badfish22]

good to see dumbass spurfans are only a small part of their population.

[Ignignokt]

I can't even see my vbookie cash right now so i don't know what that means. I'll just assume it's some quality smack that i won't be able to handle.

Oh i bet you can handle it. you got like 4000+ posts.

[angelbelow]

lol what the hell.

[Ignignokt]

good to see dumbass spurfans are only a small part of their population.

:lmao SpursAreOld@DirtyDuncanISboring Inc.

[jag]

Oh i bet you can handle it. you got like 4000+ posts.

You should post in the Spurs forum more...you thrive in here.

[Ignignokt]

You should post in the Spurs forum more...you thrive in here.

Do you aspire to excel in life through spurstalk? I can tell.

[J_Paco]

I understand what you're trying to convey, but the term "warrior" is over-used in sports. Dirk is a tremendous scorer and shooter, but he's not out there hounding guys on defense and grabbing every rebound. Also, there are very few big men that can guard Dirk effectively, but the ones that can make his scoring a chore (prime Rasheed, prime Garnett, Haslem and Kenyon Martin). These people arguing for Dirk will bash Garnett, even though he's won a title, while defending a bitter rival?? So, did people have all these nice things to say about Karl Malone?

[Ignignokt]

mookie Crew!

Mookie Crew!

Mookie Crew!

[MookieCrew]

I don't know what it is but Dirk will never outsell Miley Cyrus if all he does is shoot fadeaways. He's gotta start telling people about Hailey my baby and bload the neocons i saaaaaiiiiiiiiiiidddddddd.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

wow talk about outing yourself to defend yourself

you need to settle down gtown

[Ignignokt]

wow talk about outing yourself to defend yourself

you need to settle down gtown

I need to give dirk more glory, you're right.

[Rummpd]

Give me Dirk on the Spurs anyday - a dream combo would be Dirk and Duncan as Pop would get something defensively out of Dirk and the Spurs would high low the NBA to death and be an unbeatable team.

[Loose Cannon]

Its ironic that you're making him out to be less than Duncan for lacking style instead of taking a look at his substance.

Ironic as hell.

In any event, Dirk is a hell of a player. He's probably the only one on the Mavs I can actually stand.

Yep the difference between he and Timmy is clearly that Timmy gets all the style points

Or the fact that Tim is better at everything, has four rings, isn't soft, and is the best player of his generation.

Aside from that they're both warriors. :king

[Stamm32089]

BTW, no one here is arguing Duncan > Dirk so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

I hope we're comparing careers here and not the past 3-4 seasons...

I'll give Duncan the better career but Dirk's been better than Duncan straight up for awhile now...

[Loose Cannon]

I hope we're comparing careers here and not the past 3-4 seasons...

I'll give Duncan the better career but Dirk's been better than Duncan straight up for awhile now...


You're a fucking idiot.

At no point, from sperm 'til today, has Dirk been better than Timmy at anything. Ever.

Except dating white trash skanks.

[Sense]

How old are you Ignignokt?

[stéphane]

How old are you Ignignokt?

and how tall?
To have such hainous comments you have to be 4feet something.

Having such retarded posters around is good when you question you're posting quality. Keep up the bad word.

[John Terry]

26.7 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 3 assists on 54% shooting (including 57% from three and 95% from the line) in 38 minutes a game?

Yes, I'd say that makes Dirk a warrior for this series.

:tu Dirk was unarguably the #1 in this series but his team still couldn't wriggle out of the swamp with the #2, 3 and 4 guys all being Spurs.

[lefty]

That reminds of people who were criticizing C-Webb for not playing like a real PF.

That was utter BS; he was playing on his strenghts, and was a super player (and fun to watch)

[diego]

i agree with the OP. the superlatives are getting out of hand. dirk is an elite jumpshooter, a scoring machine, and a matchup nightmare. OK.

he is not a warrior, not a dominant player, and not worth 20 million.

he only plays one end of the court. how many corner 3's did we attempt with dirk under the basket, not even attempting to help close out?

for all his scoring prowess cant get himself a quality look in the clutch. (not the same as being a choker, I havent called him that). tony and manu have no trouble creating space for a J. dirk has to shoot a 20 ft fade away

he has trouble with double teams. tim and manu have no problems finding an open player or splitting it themselves. dirk either makes a bad pass, forces a bad shot, or in the best case scenario makes a safe pass but it doesnt capitalize on the attention he's getting.

he gets frustrated and loses composure.

despite playing less minutes and attempting less shots (and having a broken nose), manu shot almost as many FT as dirk. taking it to the hole > jumpshooting, basic truth of basketball. when the mavs offense was stagnant in game 3, dirk was what, something like 1-5 in the 3rd Q? last night, when they were getting locked down in the 1st, dirk was bricking 20 footers while the spurs were getting more points in the paint than mavs total points.

dirk had two good games, game 1 and game 5. game 1 he shot great, but IMO game 5 was the one he was really good- there he actually played help D, was physical on the glass and took the ball inside. the rest of the games, he was unable to respond to physical play, was unable to take over his teams offense (despite being billed as a top scoring talent all time), and gave his team nothing on D and nothing in leadership/poise.

at the end of the day, the mavs have 10 consecutive 50 win seasons, one of only 4 teams to do it. they are the only one to not win a ship, and the only one to lose in the first round 4 times:

10
08
07
04

only 03 WCF, and 06 Finals, 01, 02, 05, 09 2nd round exits.

dirk said this was his best team... it was still a jumpshooting team, and still lost in the 1st round.

he's a great player... but not a number 1 guy. if the spurs could pick him up, sure I'd take him, he can compliment duncan, but not for 20M. that means giving up tony or manu, and while they may not be the elite jumpshooters dirk is, they do more damage in the paint and have better playmaking skills and better defenders. I'd much rather have those 3 things (for less money) than dirk's ungodly shooting stroke.

[TDMVPDPOY]

he cant control if the other players dont hit their shots, do you expect him to go wilt on everyone ?

[diego]

what happened to taking over? to creating for yourself? maybe if he played inside more, his teammates would try to do the same instead of shooting J's all the time?

and that doesnt excuse his lack of D. he doesnt need to shut people down, but for this series the only game I saw him play help D for at least 50% of the game was game 5. if you are going to call out his teammates for not helping on O, why give him a pass for making it 5 on 4 at the other end?

[TDMVPDPOY]

whether taking it inside or gettin to the line, dude still hits a high % of those midrange jumpshots anyway

[diego]

oh, and the guy who compared with reggie miller-

miller was better at creating his own shot and was one of the clutchest players of all time. say dirk's rebounding offsets that and you are arguing dirk is about equal to reggie miller, OK. that's not Duncan/Shaq/KG/kobe/lebron/20M territory.

[diego]

midrange jumpshots dont collapse the D like taking it inside does- less opportunities to make plays for others, less likelihood of drawing defenders and opening the paint for offensive boards. they dont draw fouls like taking it inside does (though dirk does an excellent job of making up for this). and they arent as high percentage as a shot at the basket. Wasn't it reggie, speak of the devil, dogging the mavs for relying on outside shooting in an elimination game? It doesnt matter if it goes in or not, those are the shots you want them to take.

[Strike]

I'm not exactly sure how opposing coaches putting guards and/or small forwards on Nowitzki is Nowitzki's fault. You take what the defense gives you. Dirk is not much of an in the paint, bang it in post up player. To force him to play that kind of offensive game makes little sense. He plays according to his strengths. And let's be clear here. Dude was getting knocked around during most of the series and still put up good numbers with a hand in his face or a body on him nearly every shot. If he plays little or no defense, that's up to the coaching staff to remedy.

I couldn't care less if people want to call him a "warrior" or not. To argue it is as lame, if not more, than to argue whether or not a team is a "dynasty". Despite the fact that he plays on a team I despise, Dirk Nowitzki is a hell of a player. And though his particular style of play isn't my favorite, I have a huge amount of respect for him.

[diego]

all of which is why beaubois had such a big impact when he came in for the 2nd Q.