San Antonio Spurs vs Phoenix Suns WCSF

[picc84]

It never gets old, fellas.

It never. Gets. Old.

:toast

:corn:


:deadhorse

[DJ Mbenga]

spurs got their revenge. do the suns get their revenge?

[Xevious]

Suns are actually trying to play defense these days, while still playing up-tempo offense. It'll be be a tough series.

[Warlord23]

:hungry: :hungry: :hungry:

[oh crap]

hoping for suns 4-2

[Trainwreck2100]

Suns are actually trying to play defense these days, while still playing up-tempo offense. It'll be be a tough series.

I love it after game 2 TNT said they were playing more physical this year, cause they had the most fouls. So instead of playing no defense, they're playing bad defense

[NewJerSpur]

Wouldn't be a drive for 5 without having to play the Suns.

[Spurologist]

:lol

Amare seems tame these days....giving props to the spurs in preparation for a tough battle....but something tells me he's one dunk and pushup away from changing all that

[lurker]

Wish the Suns had Robin for this one.


Unless the Suns are better than Dallas I doubt they beat the Spurs.For what it's worth, I thought the Suns had a really good chance to eliminate the Mavs. That's what I keep reminding myself of tonight to make the loss sting a little less. :lol

[pauls931]

Not that sweet this time... If Suns win, their reward.... LA.... Then Cleveland.... But at least we get a good grudge match here.

[slick'81]

arent the sons getting lopez back?!?any way should be a great fkcn series!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

unfortunately the guy who slips feet under amare as he goes for jump shots is gone =[

[pauls931]

unfortunately the guy who slips feet under amare as he goes for jump shots is gone =[

and dunks.... I heard Amare's insurance went down 98% after Bowen retired.

[lil_penny]

This should be a great one!

[midnightpulp]

All depends on Duncan. If he remains in good health throughout the series, managing to avoid those nagging knee problems, the Spurs chances go up exponentially. If 4-11 Duncan makes more than one appearance this series, I expect the Suns to win the series.

Just never know what kind of health he's going to be in from day to day. Can't buy his consistency like you could in the past.

[Reeko_Htown]

I rooted for you Spurs to beat the ponies. It ends now. GO SUNS.

[picc84]

I just thought of something.

If Spurs fans see them go through Mavs, Suns, Lakers in the same year, they will grow in obnoxiousness exponentially. They'll essentially have bragging rights over their biggest rivals and the largest fanbases on ST.

[BlackSwordsMan]

and dunks.... I heard Amare's insurance went down 98% after Bowen retired.

:lol

[lurker]

I just thought of something.

If Spurs fans see them go through Mavs, Suns, Lakers in the same year, they will grow in obnoxiousness exponentially. They'll essentially have bragging rights over their biggest rivals and the largest fanbases on ST.
A #7 seed knocking out the #1, #2 and #3 seeds in route to the finals. Amazing that it might actually happen.

[JMarkJohns]

Shit

[ElNono]

Chuck just picked the Suns!!!

:danceclub

[pauls931]

Shit

The shit be white.

[Trainwreck2100]

Chuck just picked the Suns!!!

:danceclub

I was so scared when Ernie asked if he was jumping off the wagon

[picc84]

Who guards:

- Nash
- JRich

Hill on Nash, Parker on Richardson, Manu on Hill?

[picc84]

Shit

:lol

[NewJerSpur]

Chuck just picked the Suns!!!

:danceclub

Always a good sign. And he's back to yelling out Manu's name.

[slick'81]

Who guards:

- Nash
- JRich

Hill on Nash, Parker on Richardson, Manu on Hill?

hill on nash gino on j-rich and jefferson on hill

[DAF86]

Who guards:

- Nash
- JRich

Hill on Nash, Parker on Richardson, Manu on Hill?

Parker on Nash, Hill on Richardson. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Manu on Richardson to start the games, with Hill guarding Nash and RJ guarding Grant Hill.

[NewJerSpur]

Not that sweet this time... If Suns win, their reward.... LA.... Then Cleveland.... But at least we get a good grudge match here.

:nope

Don't know about that, the Cavs aren't facing the Hawks in the 2nd round this year (who continue to prove they lack the fortitude to be a real contender when the chips are on the line).

[ElNono]

Who guards:

- Nash
- JRich

Hill on Nash, Parker on Richardson, Manu on Hill?

I have Hill/Parker on Nash... Manu on JRich and RJ on Hill...

[Trainwreck2100]

Who guards:

- Nash
- JRich

Hill on Nash, Parker on Richardson, Manu on Hill?

Better question, who do you hide Nash on?

[badfish22]

Probably gonna root for the winner of this series to win west. But for this series a got to take my boy Stevie and their mastermind coach Alvin Gentry.

:cry Great fucking MVP mix
:cry great fucking top 5 finish in COY voting

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

For the Suns I predict J-Rich guards dick, Hill/Dudley guards Manu, Dragic guards Parker, Barbosa lets Parker score, Nash guards Hill (hopefully "guards").

[Warlord23]

The Suns don't have an SF with a post-up game. I think Pop will go with the 3-guard look early and often. Really looking forward to how Gentry reacts to Pop's moves in this series.

[Spursmania]

Spurs love playing the Suns. Brings back warm and fuzzy memories for the Big 3.

[Trainwreck2100]

For the Suns I predict J-Rich guards dick, Hill/Dudley guards Manu, Dragic guards Parker, Barbosa lets Parker score, Nash guards Hill (hopefully "guards").

I can't wait to see Dudley myself

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The way Dudley finished against Portland I wouldn't look to forward to him if I were SA.

[phyzik]

Anyone that doesnt think Spurs got this is a huge punk ass mark....

The ONLY way Suns win this is if Spurs only play 4 players on the court.

Its going to be Spurs in the WCF vs whoever beats the Lakers.

no question.

[Trainwreck2100]

The way Dudley finished against Portland I wouldn't look to forward to him if I were SA.

Isn't that cute..............that hope

[NewJerSpur]

The way Dudley finished against Portland I wouldn't look to forward to him if I were SA.

Dude can stroke it. If I'm the Suns, I'm putting Nash on Jefferson (who can disappear for minutes/quarters at a time).

Glad Spurs don't have to worry about doubling at the foul line anymore and scrambling to get back and defend the 3-point line as a result in this series.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Isn't that cute..............that hope


There are plenty of Suns players I'd look forward to seeing if I were SA, Dudley isn't one of them.......det's all I'm saying.

[Spursmania]

The way Dudley finished against Portland I wouldn't look to forward to him if I were SA.

Yeah, I think the Spurs are quaking in their shoes at the thought of Dudley :rolleyes

It will be a great series, but I just can't imagine the Spurs fearing the Suns. The better team will win and if the Spurs lose then props to the Suns.

[ElNono]

The way Dudley finished against Portland I wouldn't look to forward to him if I were SA.

Well, Nash is going to have to guard one of Parker or Hill... The way Hill finished against the Mavs, I wouldn't look forward to him either if I would be PHX...

[jag]

Unless you expect to have dragic and nash getting significant minutes together, then they are still gonna have a hard time hiding Nash.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

:lmao, Spurfan got really butt hurt that I said something positive about a Suns player

Spurs sweep, the Suns suck, Spurs are the greatest. 4 rings, faggot.

Is that better?

[ElNono]

We're going to have out work cut out for us... Imperative we protect the 3 ball... That guy Frye burned us in the regular season and he was hitting again tonight...
Since Amare gets whatever he wants against us anyway, might aswell cover the 3 point line...

[jag]

:lmao, Spurfan got really butt hurt that I said something positive about a Suns player

Spurs sweep, the Suns suck, Spurs are the greatest. 4 rings, faggot.

Is that better?

Lol I don't get people clowning on Dudley...dude was stroking it out there..

[ElNono]

:lmao, Spurfan got really butt hurt that I said something positive about a Suns player

Spurs sweep, the Suns suck, Spurs are the greatest. 4 rings, faggot.

Is that better?

I'm merely surprised you didn't pull Godwin yet... Nazis! They're everywhere!

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao, Spurfan got really butt hurt that I said something positive about a Suns player

Spurs sweep, the Suns suck, Spurs are the greatest. 4 rings, faggot.

Is that better?

lol Twitter

[ElNono]

BTW, I wasn't clowning on Dudley... What I was pointing out is that we have some of our role players playing well too...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol Twitter


???

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

BTW, I wasn't clowning on Dudley... What I was pointing out is that we have some of our role players playing well too...


Wasn't directing my post towards you at all.

[NewJerSpur]

Can't get beat by the 3-ball, that for sure. Be interesting to see the Dice/Amare matchup.

[Ghazi]

in my humble points of view: Spurs in 6

[Bob Lanier]

rofl

One game at most.

[Trainwreck2100]

???

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150549&highlight=dudley

your fingerprints are all over that thread too

[Ghazi]

5 rebound ecstasy :danceclub

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Hey Ghazi how'd the Mavs play tonight?

[Ghazi]

NWyetpWh-yc&feature=fvst

[Pelicans78]

Sucks Robin Lopez is hurt. He would be expected to have a huge impact.

[Trainwreck2100]

Wasn't directing my post towards you at all.

You don't understand, every year there's supposed to be something different with the Suns, and every year it turns out the same fucking way.

[jag]

NWyetpWh-yc&feature=fvst

:lmao

[DJB]

spurs got their revenge. do the suns get their revenge?

Um, no. We'll wax that ass as usual. :tu

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You don't understand, every year there's supposed to be something different with the Suns, and every year it turns out the same fucking way.


Never said there would be anything different. If I did, please show me where.

[DJB]

Sucks Robin Lopez is hurt. He would be expected to have a huge impact. :wakeup

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sucks Robin Lopez is hurt. He would be expected to have a huge impact.


Baring a setback Lopez is supposed to be healthy for series.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

My question is:

Does fatigue play a roll for the Suns more than it did for the Mavs?


Nash is old, Grant is old.

[Trainwreck2100]

Never said there would be anything different. If I did, please show me where.

I didn't say you said that, if i did please show me where

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

My question is:

Does fatigue play a roll for the Suns more than it did for the Mavs?


Nash is old, Grant is old.


First game in the series isn't till Monday. Nash is getting longer in game rests than he ever has with the team, so no, fatigue doesn't play a role as much as the fact Nash simply isn't what he once was.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I didn't say you said that, if i did please show me where


You told me I don't understand, I'm not quite sure what I "didn't understand". I'm not predicting a Suns win or anything, if it makes you happy, I'd predict Spurs in 6 if I had to make a prediction.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Baring a setback Lopez is supposed to be healthy for series.

I'll be very surprised to see him any sooner than Game 3. They still said there was no timetable for his return (according to ESPN).



Still no timetable for Suns' Lopez
April, 29, 2010

By John Hollinger

PORTLAND -- Robin Lopez worked out at the Suns’ Game 6 shootaround Thursday, but don’t expect any Brandon Roy-style dramatic returns anytime soon. The bulging disk in his back pinched a nerve and caused a loss of strength in his right leg, and working his way back into playing shape from that setback is a much more arduous process than Roy's return from torn meniscus surgery.

The Suns emphasized again that there is still no timeline for his return, and an appearance in the second round seems extremely unlikely.

“I feel a lot better but I still have a ways to go,” said Lopez. “I just started running and you can kind of tell that a little bit.”

“Right now, for me it’s all about getting the strength back in my right leg. As anyone who has gone through a bulging disk can tell you, you don’t really know how long that’s going to last. It can take a couple weeks, or it can take another month and a half.

“We’ll start him tonight,” joked Suns coach Alvin Gentry, in reference to Roy’s unexpected return in Game 4. “That’s our big surprise.”

“He’s coming along. We’ll see what happens, but he’s still a little ways away. [But] he’s made unbelievable improvement.”

But again, no hard dates.

“There really isn’t a [timetable],” said Gentry. “We’ll just follow the doctors’ advice. He’s made a lot of progress over the last week and a half, and we’ll just see where that takes us.”

As for Lopez, he’s just relieved to be taking part again, even in a limited fashion, and he said he may be able to increase the workload this weekend.

“It’s nice to change it up a little bit,” he said of his work on the court today. “Right now we’re isolating different actions, but putting it all together, that’s totally different.”
Tags:

Phoenix Suns, Portland Trail Blazers, John Hollinger, 2010 playoffs

[Johnny RIngo]

You don't understand, every year there's supposed to be something different with the Suns, and every year it turns out the same fucking way.

Suns were ranked 19th in def eff in the reg season(pretty awful) but this is probably their best shot to beat the Spurs seeing as SA was ranked 9th in def eff this year(the worst of all the SA teams Phx has played in the post-season).

[DAF86]

I'm not as confident as my fellow Spurs fans, this is going to be a tight series and the Suns are due a playoffs victory over the Spurs.

[Pelicans78]

Baring a setback Lopez is supposed to be healthy for series.

Seriously? If that's the case, Suns have a good chance to win. Spurs have no answer for Amare while Lopez may be able to slow down Duncan enough. No big advantage in the backcourt for either team.

[Pelicans78]

:wakeup

Obviously you have as much knowledge as a pile of shit in a toilet.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Seriously? If that's the case, Suns have a good chance to win. Spurs have no answer for Amare while Lopez may be able to slow down Duncan enough. No big advantage in the backcourt for either team.

No, read my post from above.

Lopez is most likely not gonna see any 2nd round action.

[Xylus]

If Lopez doesn't play, I don't think the Suns have a good shot of winning this series. Collins is awful, and Channing Frye is a backup Center, nothing more.

[Stringer_Bell]

Suns were ranked 19th in def eff in the reg season(pretty awful) but this is probably their best shot to beat the Spurs seeing as SA was ranked 9th in def eff this year(the worst of all the SA teams Phx has played in the post-season).

Best chance? Perhaps. Does that make it a good chance? Probably not. The Spurs are more or less playing like the team we hoped they would be playing like the whole season. In those losses to Dallas, it was like they didn't even show up to the arena...but there's a good grit and toughness we're rolling with right now that I think can finish the Suns off in 5.

I don't think emotions will play much into the actual on court action, not like Mavs/Spurs. Both teams have a lot of new guys that weren't around for those battles, and now it comes down to tempo and execution. Definately a tricky series if we get greedy or overlook stuff, but I think Pop will keep the team in check and we can let all the other Semi-Finals teams knock each other senseless while we just take care of business ASAP. :flag:

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'm anxious for this series. I know a lot of Spurs fans expect the Spurs to kill the Suns in this series, but outside of Amare/Nash/Barbosa, a majority of these players are very new to the Suns/Spurs rivalry.

We'll have to chase them all off the 3 point line, because with the way SA has been shooting the 3 ball lately, it's gonna be tough making up the difference in long ball points as Phoenix is one of the top teams in 3 point shooting. Having said that, I believe the Spurs are one of the top teams at defending the 3 point line.

[Xylus]

On the bright side for the Suns... JRich, Dudley, Hill, Frye, Dragic, Amundson... I don't think these guys fear the Spurs at all. Amare's never really been intimidated by the Spurs and Popovich usually lets him do whatever he wants.

It's Nash we have to worry about.

[Trainwreck2100]

If game 4-5 Tim Duncan shows up, it will be hard to win

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I predict Dragic is going to have a coming out party in this series. The Spurs handle Richardson really well. I think Amundson and McDyess will be an interesting matchup, and Dudley and Hill will be huge X factors for Phoenix.

[jag]

I'm anxious for this series. I know a lot of Spurs fans expect the Spurs to kill the Suns in this series...

I certainly don't. I think it will be extremely competitive.

[slick'81]

I certainly don't. I think it will be extremely competitive.


could go 7 but ill go with spurs in 6 :flag:

[Xylus]

I predict Dragic is going to have a coming out party in this series. The Spurs handle Richardson really well. I think Amundson and McDyess will be an interesting matchup, and Dudley and Hill will be huge X factors for Phoenix.

Surprisingly, that hasn't been true this year.

He had a bad game against the Spurs at the start of the year, but he shot really well in the last two matchups of the season (apart from that freak dunk).

After watching JRich single-handedly destroy the Blazers, I expect Popovich to put a lot of defensive pressure on him this series. Hopefully our other guys can pick up the slack.

[ezau]

This is going to be more competitive than previous Spurs/Suns series. Still, Spurs in 6.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Surprisingly, that hasn't been true this year.

He had a bad game against the Spurs at the start of the year, but he shot really well in the last two matchups of the season (apart from that freak dunk).

After watching JRich single-handedly destroy the Blazers, I expect Popovich to put a lot of defensive pressure on him this series. Hopefully our other guys can pick up the slack.

Good call Xylus, Richardson has shot 15-26 combined, in the last two games against the Spurs. Seeing as how he's on fire right now, the Spurs really do have their work cut out for them.

[Muser]

Spurs need to split the first two, if they do that then Spurs in 6.

[Flux451]

A #7 seed knocking out the #1, #2 and #3 seeds in route to the finals. Amazing that it might actually happen.

:toast

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The two guys I can guarantee won't contribute jack shit in this series: Amundson and Barbosa. Amundson's bball IQ is so low and his fundamentals are so poor that Duncan, McDyess and Blair would all be able to take him to the cleaners if he's guarding one of them. We all know Barbaro's history against the Spurs.

[The Cougar]

The two guys I can guarantee won't contribute jack shit in this series: Amundson and Barbosa. Amundson's bball IQ is so low and his fundamentals are so poor that Duncan, McDyess and Blair would all be able to take him to the cleaners if he's guarding one of them. We all know Barbaro's history against the Spurs.

I'm gonna miss Shawn Marion

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'm gonna miss Shawn Marion


And Doris. Watching Doris and Shawna ruin the playoff hopes of their respective teams has made the playoffs great.

[DDS4]

Amare is guaran-sheed at least 30 pts./game this series.

As long as the Spurs get back on transition D and stay home on the 3-point shooters, I like the Spurs chances.

[Giuseppe]

Mealy mouthed Spurs fans gettin' their worried ass smootcher on.

Act like somebody, goddamn it!

[Shastafarian]

Who's gonna guard George Hill?

[Xylus]

Who's gonna guard George Hill?

That's definitely a mystery.

[Giuseppe]

Suns Fandom & Spurs Fandom, sittin' in a tree, k.i.s.s.i.n.g, first comes love, then comes marriage, then come O & 42 in a baby carriage.

[Shastafarian]

That's definitely a mystery.

I posted it in a thread in the Spurs forum but George Hill could be a HUGE part of the series. If they put Grant Hill on George Hill then Nash is stuck on Parker. Parker really takes Nash apart. If they put Grant Hill on Parker and Nash on Hill that's also a huge mismatch. It's a big decision. I think we know barbosa can't guard hill. What about Richardson?

[Giuseppe]

Hey, Shasta, sweetheart, are you and the Suns gonna fuck each other, or, are you gonna fuck each other?

I got's ta know. Am I gonna watch an ass fuckin', or, two old toots jerkin' each other off?

[Jeremy]

No, read my post from above.

Lopez is most likely not gonna see any 2nd round action.

Actually, Hollinger doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

As DOK said, barring any setbacks, Robin Lopez is going to rejoin Suns' practice fully on Friday or Saturday, and will have his weekly Monday reevaluation at which time he will be cleared to return to game action.

He should be the Suns' starting center for Game 1.

The only thing the Suns are concerned about is his conditioning, but that will be something they'll have to let him work through no matter when he returns.

[Shastafarian]

Hey, Shasta, sweetheart, are you and the Suns gonna fuck each other, or, are you gonna fuck each other?

I got's ta know. Am I gonna watch an ass fuckin', or, two old toots jerkin' each other off?

http://www.commentbuddy.com/comments/Gay/gay.jpg

[Giuseppe]

Sunsdom: I love you guys.

Spursdom: I love you guys.

Sunsdome: I love you guys.

Spursdom: I love you guys.

...

...

[Jeremy]

I'm actually more concerned about Steve Nash's health than Lopez. He injured his hip again before Game 3, and that has caused his back problem to bother him again. He said he was really hurting out there tonight, which was obvious.

I know you like to discount this, DOK, but Nash's spondylolisthesis is a real problem. Hopefully during these next 4 days, he can get right again.

[Giuseppe]

http://www.commentbuddy.com/comments/Gay/gay.jpg

No, c'mon, angel pie, give Cubby some of that bold ass rippin' shit you gave Mavsdom. Or, are you and Sunsdom just gonna play house?

[Giuseppe]

I know you like to discount this, DOK, but Nash's spondylolisthesis is a real problem.

Lack of backbone has always been Nash's weakness, sans when he lifted Porter and threw him into the trash compactor.

[pauls931]

I'm gonna miss Shawn Marion

They'll miss Marion for guarding Ginobilli. I have no idea what they're going to do with him. I guess Grant Hill or Richardson? Parker is another problem, but at least dragic will be in part of the time and help D is a bit better this season when Nash is in.

Yup, the suns better beware of George Hill, that guy went ballistic on the mavs.

Definitely a matchup nightmare.

[Giuseppe]

Check....

Now it's Spuns Fandom's turn to say something sweet & postive about the Spuns.

Go ahead.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'm actually more concerned about Steve Nash's health than Lopez. He injured his hip again before Game 3, and that has caused his back problem to bother him again. He said he was really hurting out there tonight, which was obvious.

Yeah, I'm sure his hip is causing his hands to pass the ball to the other team. Same thing as what happened after the AS game, Nash has some bad games, and an injury pops up outa nowhere.

[Giuseppe]

Check....

Now it's Spuns Fandom's turn to say something sweet & positive about the Spuns.

Go ahead.

[lefty]

Not Spurs-Suns again



I'm just tired of playing the Suns almost every year

[Giuseppe]

Watch it, Lefty, that's borderline kind.

[DPG21920]

This is going to be brutal for the Spurs. No 3 PT shooting and a point guard that can actually shoot from other spots besides 3.

[pauls931]

This is going to be brutal for the Spurs. No 3 PT shooting and a point guard that can actually shoot from other spots besides 3.

? I may be taking this out of context, but Mason, Hill, Ginobilli all shoot 3's well.

My main concern is guarding Ginobilli on the pick and role. No one has figured out how to stop it yet this year. He creates havoc by being able to shoot 3's using all arms not having to shoot a jump shot giving the D time to jump at him. So if the D does jump at him, he's not jumping and can drive else just lob up the shot using his arms.

I noticed Rudy on Portland shoots like this sometimes to being able to get a 3 off fast because he doesn't have to square up his legs and jump.

[DPG21920]

? I may be taking this out of context, but Mason, Hill, Ginobilli all shoot 3's well.

Not really. Mason is terrible and *hopefully* won't see minutes. Manu is streaky. Hill is our best 3 pt shooter. As a team, the Spurs have been struggling from 3 since the All Star Break.

They shot terrible from 3 against the Mavs. It does not bode well against the Suns.

[Cry Havoc]

Sunsdom: You guys have dominated us since we were walking around in loincloths.

Spursdom: Yeah, we know. But you guys have new players, so it should be a close series.

...

Spursdom: We'll still probably win though.

Sunsdome: Yeah. I know. :depressed

...

Fixed it for you. The Suns fans have nothing to trash talk about, so they're attempting to stay realistic about their chances.

[Giuseppe]

Not really. Mason is terrible and *hopefully* won't see minutes. Manu is streaky. Hill is our best 3 pt shooter. As a team, the Spurs have been struggling from 3 since the All Star Break.

They shot terrible from 3 against the Mavs. It does not bode well against the Suns.

DPG, gettin' his white flag on.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[pauls931]

Not really. Mason is terrible and *hopefully* won't see minutes. Manu is streaky. Hill is our best 3 pt shooter. As a team, the Spurs have been struggling from 3 since the All Star Break.

They shot terrible from 3 against the Mavs. It does not bode well against the Suns.

Here's what I hate about the Spurs and Barkley pointed out earlier this year, maybe it was Kenny.

The Suns are best on O at the 3 and pick and roll.

The Spurs are best on D at guarding the 3 and the pick and roll.

They essentially cancel each other out, then Spurs execution/Duncan usually puts them over the hump.

[Giuseppe]

Fixed it for you. The Suns fans have nothing to trash talk about, so they're attempting to stay realistic about their chances.

Yeah, but, you guys are trying to top them from the bottom.

It's the weirdst damn thing I've seen on this Board.

[Giuseppe]

Here's what I hate about the Spurs and Barkley pointed out earlier this year, maybe it was Kenny.

The Suns are best on O at the 3 and pick and roll.

The Spurs are best on D at guarding the 3 and the pick and roll.

They essentially cancel each other out, then Spurs execution/Duncan usually puts them over the hump.

Fuck it, Paul, meld 'em into the Spuns and head to Los Angeles early.

[DPG21920]

It is just one observation that I feel can be a big problem for the Spurs going into the series. There are a few others as well. This is a brutal playoff run for the Spurs.

[Giuseppe]

:rolleyes

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah, but, you guys are trying to top them from the bottom.

It's the weirdst damn thing I've seen on this Board.

When you can really talk any kind of trash you want, you don't need to.

Some people on this board actually prefer to discuss sports rather than repeating, "FOUR RINGS, FAGGOT" and "lol suns" ad nauseum.

[ffadicted]

Damn, first Mavs, then Suns, and potentially Lakers if we carry on... this WC run is like a fucking compilation of greatest rivalries for the spurs.

[Giuseppe]

When you can really talk any kind of trash you want, you don't need to.

Some people on this board actually prefer to discuss sports rather than repeating, "FOUR RINGS, FAGGOT" and "lol suns" ad nauseum.

Either that, or, you're really scared shitless of the Suns. You lose that series, and I'm gonna bust that ass, Cry.

[Giuseppe]

if we

:(

[PDXSpursFan]

Who guards:

- Nash
- JRich

Hill on Nash, Parker on Richardson, Manu on Hill?

Isn't it obvious?

Hill --> Nash
Manu --> JRich
Jefferson ---> Hill

[BlackSwordsMan]

who's gonna stop blair?

[Giuseppe]

who's gonna stop blair?

I hope Blair and the Dick violate that Sun's ass.

[da_suns_fan]

who's gonna stop blair?

Popovic.

[TinTin]

Mason shouldn't even enter the arena

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

who's gonna stop blair?


Blair's presence on offense will create easy shots for the Spurs, and Blair's presence on defense will create easy shots for the Suns. Unlike Dallas the Suns have athleticism up front to exploit Blair's defense.

[nkdlunch]

it never gets old, Spurs tapping that ass that is

[DPG21920]

you also bitched about how the Spurs were afraid of playing the Mavs, and it was the worst possible matchup possible.

Damn you're such a pussy!

It was the worst match up. I never said they could not win. Just because a fan does not say his team will pwn the world, does not mean that they are not a fan or are scared. It is about being objective and calling it like you see it.

[nkdlunch]

It was the worst match up. I never said they could not win. Just because a fan does not say his team will pwn the world, does not mean that they are not a fan or are scared. It is about being objective and calling it like you see it.

you're scared of the Suns? :lol

show some backbone

[DPG21920]

you're scared of the Suns? :lol

show some backbone

What are you talking about?

[nkdlunch]

What are you talking about?

it seems you are scared of a matchup with the Suns? we always wipe the floor with them. things won't change

[DPG21920]

Where did you come up with that?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Since Spurfan will flip out if I don't have this pre-qualifier: I think the Spurs will win the series

With that said, anyone who thinks this is a lock for the Spurs and that they'll have no problems is retarded. First off, it's not like the 2007 series was an easy win for them. Diaw and Amare being retarded is the one thing that stopped the Suns from having all the momentum after stealing game 4. Even with Amare and Diaw out the Spurs needed a come from behind victory to win game 5 when Phoenix was up the entire game. I'm not saying SA didn't deserve the win, but it's moronic to act like that was an easily won series for them. Second, to act like previous matchups are a huge gauge is moronic. Both teams have had pretty significant roster turnovers since 2007. The team was a mess in 2008 so I don't mention it, if the Suns somehow beat the Spurs, they woulda lost to the Hornets in the next round.

[nkdlunch]

Where did you come up with that?


They shot terrible from 3 against the Mavs. It does not bode well against the Suns.


you also bitched about how the Spurs were afraid of playing the Mavs, and it was the worst possible matchup possible.

Damn you're such a pussy!

[Johnny RIngo]

It was the worst match up.

Considering the Mavs' inability to attack the basket, I'd say it was an ideal match-up. It was pretty obvious SA wasn't afraid of Dallas after the way they tanked the final game of the season in order to play them.

[z0sa]

Dallas scared me much more than the Suns. The Spurs come out and take care of business like they did against Dallas and this series might not go 6.

However, if Spurs don't match the Suns' intensity for 48 minutes, the Suns could run away with the series. It will be tough, but the Mavs series should have the Spurs geared up for war.

[DPG21920]

So saying the Spurs matched up terribly against the Mavs and shot poorly from 3 against the Mavs means I am scared of the Suns?

[z0sa]

What was so terrible about the Mavs matchups? Spurs did win the series, you know.

[nkdlunch]

So saying the Spurs matched up terribly against the Mavs and shot poorly from 3 against the Mavs means I am scared of the Suns?

my bad then. carry on

[Killakobe81]

Damn, first Mavs, then Suns, and potentially Lakers if we carry on... this WC run is like a fucking compilation of greatest rivalries for the spurs.

not to sound condescending ..beacuse you are right from the spurs persepctive ...but Lakers and spurs are not "true" rivals

TBH from the Lakerside I do not consider the Spurs rivals and definitely not our "fiercest" rivals that is only the Celts and I also dislike Portland Sac and Utah (though DWILL maybe my currrent favorite non Laker)

i only started to dislike the spurs when I moved to SA and started lurking on this site and saw and heard all the hate SPURS fan has for the Lakers ...

I respect the Spurs especially manu and duncan but consider them rivals? Nah. We have owned the spurs in most playoffs even when they have beaten us in the regular season ...

in my years of watching basketball the spurs have beaten us maybe once IIRC ...that is not a rivalry. That is almost like Spurs saying suns are their biggest rival ...

Spurs and lakers are brought together because in the past decade they traded title runs ...but really we "own" the spurs much like the Spurs "own" th Suns ....

If Spurs beat us THIS year maybe I will feel differently

[DPG21920]

What was so terrible about the Mavs matchups? Spurs did win the series, you know.

Going into the series, Mavs were the worst match up outside of LA. They had home court, a couple of bigs, plenty of scoring and had beaten the Spurs the last two times they faced each other in the playoffs.

Spurs did win, but it was not easy and that does not mean that the Mavs were not the toughest match up outside of LA. Toughest match up does not mean unbeatable.

[z0sa]

Going into the series, Mavs were the worst match up outside of LA. They had home court, a couple of bigs, plenty of scoring and had beaten the Spurs the last two times they faced each other in the playoffs.

Spurs did win, but it was not easy and that does not mean that the Mavs were not the toughest match up outside of LA. Toughest match up does not mean unbeatable.

You said terrible, not toughest.

Terrible implies something much different than toughest. Tim had the advantage on all of the Mavs bigs save Dirk, even with mediocre showings, for example - a tough matchup, but not terrible considering we hold the advantage.

Dyess actually played Dirk as well as anyone, so if you consider that matchup terrible, what do you consider "great"?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

All the talk of "Team A owning team B" makes no sense. Perhaps players from team A own players from team B, but it's not like there's some mythical force that guides the Lakers over the Spurs regardless of who is on each team or some basketball fairy that ensures the Spurs will beat the Suns no matter who is on either team. If the Suns crept in as the 8 seed in 2009, the fact Steve Nash was able to dominate Smush Parker wouldn't matter. The fact Phoenix has never beaten Duncan in a playoff series is pretty relevant, but to act like this will unfold exactly like 2007 when the Spurs were an elite defensive team and Bowen was guarding Nash is pretty stupid.

[DPG21920]

Spurs fans get so cocky. When they win, they act like nothing could have gone differently. Mavs were/are a tough/terrible match up.

Denver is a great match up. Utah is a great match up.

[z0sa]

:sleep

[DPG21920]

Ok.

"There is nothing any team has over the Spurs. Spurs have no weaknesses".

- Spur fan

[z0sa]

Is that kinda like how you said "I am afraid of the Phoenix Suns" ?

[DPG21920]

All I am doing is pointing out some potential problem areas. Things that I see that could cause the series to be very tough if they continue. Do you see any problem areas Zosa?

[DPG21920]

Is that kinda like how you said "I am afraid of the Phoenix Suns" ?

Link?

[Killakobe81]

Despite my post above ...I actually think a WCF Lakers and spurs would be epic.
More times than not it has not been so (close) in fact, since Duncn was drafted there has been only one maybe two close series between the two ...with the winning team dominating the matchup There have been no classic 7 game duel with both teams peaking or healthy at the same time. We are ovedue for one.

Here are some highlights of the past few matchups
- Spurs shutdown the Forum
- Lakers prevented a spurs repeat in 2000, 2004
- Derek fisher going crazy from 3
- Kobe with the offensive board and put buck to put the nail in the coffin
- 4-1 in 2008
- Horry defecting to Spurs
- .04
- Spurs stealing George hill late in 1st round ... Lakers were planning to draft him top of the 2nd round ....

Great moments but what is missing is a real great NBA Classic/greatest matchups type series between the two. in fact the only game they show is the .04 game ....

I think a matchup bewteen the two could bring us an all-time classic.

Lakers &
Duncan vs. Pau
Bynum vs. Dice
RJ vs. Ron
Kobe vs. hill
Parker vs. fish
Manu vs. LO

Pop vs. Phil

now THAT is a series!!!

Yes, I know Utah/Denver or suns have something to say about it ...but Everyone wanted this matchup in the pre-season i pray we get it ....

[z0sa]

Ok.

"There is nothing any team has over the Spurs. Spurs have no weaknesses".

- Spur fan

Link?

[Trainwreck2100]

LA didn't beat the Spurs in 2000

[z0sa]

All I am doing is pointing out some potential problem areas. Things that I see that could cause the series to be very tough if they continue. Do you see any problem areas Zosa?

I agree with your points concerning the Suns, but I don't think the Spurs and Mavs were such a terrible matchup. A tough matchup, yes, not a terrible matchup. But since you meant tough apparently ...

[DPG21920]

Why are you getting hung up on semantics and trying so hard to dissect that?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Speaking of semantics, Allanon is back :lol

[DPG21920]

I just saw that :lol

[z0sa]

Why are you getting hung up on semantics and trying so hard to dissect that?

Tough and terrible are two very different words..

[DPG21920]

So were the Mavs a terrible match up last year?

[z0sa]

So were the Mavs a terrible match up last year?

No Manu, no McDyess, too little Hill too late,with Bonner and Mason forced into major roles? You can't even compare this season's matchup with last season's, but yes, last season the Mavs were much closer to "terrible."

[DPG21920]

Before this series, the Spurs had vastly underachieved. The Mavs made the big trade and were playing very well after the all star break.

Dice came out of no where to play very well. Obviously, hind sight is 20-20, but going into the series, there was a reason why Dallas was the favorite. Out of all the teams to draw in the first round, the Mavs were the worst imo outside of LA.

[mindcrime]

If the Spurs make it out of the west I'd love to see a Spurs/Celtics finals. Although its obviously a long shot, that would be a great series to watch.

[nkdlunch]

Before this series, the Spurs had vastly underachieved. The Mavs made the big trade and were playing very well after the all star break.

Dice came out of no where to play very well. Obviously, hind sight is 20-20, but going into the series, there was a reason why Dallas was the favorite. Out of all the teams to draw in the first round, the Mavs were the worst imo outside of LA.

Dallas was not the favorite to everyone. I had Spurs in 7.

Spurs were going into the playoffs as the 2nd hottest team in the league and the team that "noone wanted to face in the 1st round"

[Johnny RIngo]

LA didn't beat the Spurs in 2000

Yup, Spurs were eliminated in the first round by the Suns after Duncan missed all of the playoff due to a knee injury. Maybe Killakobe81 meant 2004 and 2008(though this one seems to be a stretch - I don't think anyone was beating Boston that year).

[BlackSwordsMan]

lakers still need to beat the thunder who says they'll even be in the WCF

[anonoftheinternets]

not to sound condescending ..beacuse you are right from the spurs persepctive ...but Lakers and spurs are not "true" rivals

TBH from the Lakerside I do not consider the Spurs rivals and definitely not our "fiercest" rivals that is only the Celts and I also dislike Portland Sac and Utah (though DWILL maybe my currrent favorite non Laker)

i only started to dislike the spurs when I moved to SA and started lurking on this site and saw and heard all the hate SPURS fan has for the Lakers ...

I respect the Spurs especially manu and duncan but consider them rivals? Nah. We have owned the spurs in most playoffs even when they have beaten us in the regular season ...

in my years of watching basketball the spurs have beaten us maybe once IIRC ...that is not a rivalry. That is almost like Spurs saying suns are their biggest rival ...

Spurs and lakers are brought together because in the past decade they traded title runs ...but really we "own" the spurs much like the Spurs "own" th Suns ....

If Spurs beat us THIS year maybe I will feel differently

Going by that theory ... Lakers are yet to beat hte suns in the PO:rolleyes. Point is when the spurs were awesome in 05,06,07 lakers were sucking. Not our fault. End of the day, lakers & Spurs have combined for 8 championships since 1999. lets see what happens this year.

[Jeremy]

Exactly. The Spurs beat some of the best teams in the NBA in the last 15 games and were playing at a whole different level.

And got blown out by the Suns... ;)

[EmptyMan]

There have been no classic 7 game duel with both teams peaking or healthy at the same time. We are ovedue for one.

This x1000000000000000000000000

We NEVER get to see these two Titans slug it out at full strength. It's b.s.

[Giuseppe]

This x1000000000000000000000000

We NEVER get to see these two Titans slug it out at full strength. It's b.s.

Utopia is never achieved.

You're just qualifying the result in case you lose. That's weak.

[BeeGee]

isn't it obvious?

Hill --> nash
manu --> jrich
jefferson ---> hill

bump!!!