Spus/Suns Fans Can't Really believe they are championship contenders right?

[kwamay_brown54]

Props to your teams first round wins, but any notion that these teams are championship caliber is laughable. The big men depth of blair,mcdyess,bonner and jarron collins,amare,frye simply will not get it done period. At the championship level, you need defense and rebounds and must control the paint. Neither of teams have done that at any point all year and the stats don't lie.

[kwamay_brown54]

Playing above average defense for one round against mediocre teams, doesn't somehow vault you into defensive juggernaut status. Only teams who really play championship level defense and have proven such all year are orlando,cleveland,boston,la.

[Shastafarian]

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[Giuseppe]

Spurs fans obviously don't believe it the way they've been nosin' that Suns ass since they ended the Mavs.

Suns fans obviously don't believe it the way they've been nosin' the Spurs ass since they ended the Blazers.

It's a gd disgrace is what it is.

[kwamay_brown54]

A leopard cannot change his spots, and a 19th ranked defense over the season isn't going to somehow evolve into a juggernaut overnight. The suns aren't sniffing a title with that defense.

[CubanMustGo]

Spurs fans obviously don't believe it the way they've been nosin' that Suns ass since they ended the Mavs.

Suns fans obviously don't believe it the way they've been nosin' the Spurs ass since they ended the Blazers.

It's a gd disgrace is what it is.

What's a gd disgrace is having a bunch of children who barely qualified for the playoffs take two games from the #1 seed.

[Shastafarian]

Do Laker trolls know their series is still going? I bet Artest plays real well tonight. Hell, he might even shoot 40%.

[kwamay_brown54]

What you eggheads don't bother to realize is that the Thunder have ranked in the top 5 in defense all year long. So really, the thunder are actually better equipped than spurs/suns/jazz EVER could be because they actually play some defense. Suns and Jazz as good defensive teams is laughable. Spurs I will give some respect to because they were about 9th all year which is above average.

[Giuseppe]

What's a gd disgrace is having a bunch of children who barely qualified for the playoffs take two games from the #1 seed.

Got nothing to do with you climbin' into bed with the Suns and lickin' their balloon knot.

[easy7]

So...you like big men. Nothing wrong with that.

[kwamay_brown54]

I'm sorry but any team who starts Jarron Collins cannot realistically believe they are at a championship level can they?

[Shastafarian]

I'm sorry but any team who starts Jarron Collins cannot realistically believe they are at a championship level can they?

How about one that starts Derek Fisher?

[kwamay_brown54]

Championships are won in the paint, not on the perimeter. Suns/Jazz/Spurs are highly deficient in paint protection and rebounding. A big NO NO as far as title aspirations go. This has been proven over the last 20 years that you need defense and rebounding to win it all.

[Giuseppe]

How about one that starts Derek Fisher?

- "ssssssssssssshhhhhhhh." - Derek Fisher - Philadelphia, PA. - June.15.2001

[Shastafarian]

Championships are won in the paint, not on the perimeter. Both Suns/Jazz/Spurs are deficient in paint protection and rebounding. A big NO NO as far as title aspirations go and has proven over the last 20 years that you need defense and rebounding to win it all.

If we assume the Lakers make it to the Finals, the championship will be won on the perimeter because the Lakers have Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar, and Shannon Brown. Oh and Ron Artest.

5 year deal :rollin

[Mavs_man_41]

neither the suns, spurs, or lakers are sniffing a championship this year.

[Shastafarian]

neither the suns, spurs, or lakers are sniffing a championship this year.

So Utah is making the finals?

[kwamay_brown54]

Id rather have my role players and weakest liabilities at perimter positions than at front court positions. Bonner,Blair,Mydyess,Collins,Amare,Frye not one of these guys could guard a red cone used for DMV driving tests.

[Shastafarian]

Id rather have my role players and weakest liabilities at perimter positions than at front court positions. Bonner,Blair,Mydyess,Collins,Amare,Frye not one of these guys could guard a red cone used for DMV driving tests.

Dice is fine on defense. Did very well on Dirk, who is a better shooter than anyone the Lakers have. I have a hard time seeing Gasoft or Andrea post up McDyess effectively. He's too strong to allow them to manhandle him. Bonner sucks but that's nothing new. Good luck with Deron Williams :lol

[kwamay_brown54]

You really going to want Mcdyess to try guarding either odom/bynum for 40 minutes a night? Dude will be fouling out by the 1st half with that strategy. Once Mcdyess is out, than its either blair/bonner/manhinmi and that is where the game will be lost for your team.

[Mavs_man_41]

So Utah is making the finals?

lakers will probably make the finals, but the beatdown will be so severe that it won't even be considered close

[kwamay_brown54]

lakers will probably make the finals, but the beatdown will be so severe that it won't even be considered close

If they face Queen James than yeah I agree. It will be a bloodbath, mostly a red carpet parade to the free throw line. If its celtics/magic we could get a fantastic series and probably 7 games either way.

[Giuseppe]

lakers will probably make the finals, but the beatdown will be so severe that it won't even be considered close

OKC is our lone stumbling block. If we can trimuph over them the remainder to 16 is shaved pussy.

[cobbler]

neither the suns, spurs, or lakers are sniffing a championship this year.

Says the guy with the dead horse in the race.

[cobbler]

If we assume the Lakers make it to the Finals, the championship will be won on the perimeter because the Lakers have Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar, and Shannon Brown. Oh and Ron Artest.

5 year deal :rollin

4 and option.

And yeah, laugh all you want as your team heads for irrelevance as ous contends for titles.

[pauls931]

Do Laker trolls know their series is still going? I bet Artest plays real well tonight. Hell, he might even shoot 40%.

Funny. They could theoretically still get knocked out in the first round.

[Mavs_man_41]

Says the guy with the dead horse in the race.

since when did my team affiliation come into play in how the finals pan out? thanks for considering me so important, but i'm afraid i can't really help you

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Who the fuck is this Kwamay_Brown faggot?

[DPG21920]

So every fan base thinks you are an idiot, mavsfan? You and your throw away lines "thanks for considering me so important...". That does not even make sense.

[z0sa]

Spurs/Suns will prove if either are contenders.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Idk about what Spurs fans think about their team, but I don't think there's been a Suns fan on Spurstalk who has called the team a contender at any point this season, however Lakerfan likes to repeatedly say "HAHAHA Suns fans think their team is a contender!" even though no one on this site has said that. Makes no sense.

[Shastafarian]

4 and option. Isn't it a player option? :lmao


And yeah, laugh all you want as your team heads for irrelevance as ous contends for titles.


Funny. They could theoretically still get knocked out in the first round. Shouldn't you be more worried about beating the 8 seed than contending for a title right now?

[xellos88330]

Spurs/Suns will prove if either are contenders.

I like this. :toast

[Giuseppe]

I like this. :toast

That's the Victoria's Secret Panties yer wearing talking.

[Muser]

- "ssssssssssssshhhhhhhh." - Derek Fisher - Philadelphia, PA. - June.15.2001

Nothin' but a corpse now.

[Giuseppe]

Nothin' but a corpse now.

He shoved the Magic in a hole less than a year ago.

[mystargtr34]

Sadly the OP is probably right. The Bynum-Pau matchup could really overwhelm both front lines. Playoff McDyess has been different to regular season McDyess, but hes gonna have a battle with Bynum around the rim. Dont think Pop can go with Bonner, he just hasnt shown the ability to knock down shots consistently in the playoffs, and he's not even a wildcard anymore - you know what your going to get - not much.

I was impressed with Ibaka and the way he he used is athleticism around the rim, and his abiity to score some, so i would be really interested to see what Mahinmi could do, but no way he will see any meaningful minutes.

Blair could be a real X-Factor, if he can be physical and rough up Odom and Pau, he could make an impact, but its gonna be tough.

[EmptyMan]

I too think the Spurs are too small to win a championship. :depressed

The fact that our guards can drive to the hole at will offsets it on offense, but we will be relying on Bonner and Blair for rotational defense. Soft and small.

[xellos88330]

That's the Victoria's Secret Panties yer wearing talking.

I am honored that you are thinking of me in lingerie. Sweet dreams cupcake! :toast

[Giuseppe]

Moo, moo, buckaroo.

[pookenstein]

You really going to want Mcdyess to try guarding either odom/bynum for 40 minutes a night? Dude will be fouling out by the 1st half with that strategy. Once Mcdyess is out, than its either blair/bonner/manhinmi and that is where the game will be lost for your team.


Yeah, like as he fouled out against Dirk...

[MateoNeygro]

Idk about what Spurs fans think about their team, but I don't think there's been a Suns fan on Spurstalk who has called the team a contender at any point this season, however Lakerfan likes to repeatedly say "HAHAHA Suns fans think their team is a contender!" even though no one on this site has said that. Makes no sense.

Suns, Spurs, Jazz are contenders until they are knocked out. These douche bag fans like KWAMAY and Giuseppe think all their numbers and shit mean something. The games still have to be played quit being front running faggots and shut up. Spurs are contenders and nothing you say will make me think other wise. And if I was a Suns, or Jazz fans I'd think the same thing.

[Giuseppe]

Calm down, fuck head. Yer still in the game. Don't discount yerself. Get over here in the Valley of the Illegals and bust that Sun's crack. Then Giuseppe, he will a be a kind to a you.

[MateoNeygro]

hahahahah I usually don't know what you are talking about Giuseppe but you are funny.

[Sense]

This is the playoffs.... babbling about all this contender bullshit is pointless, why don't we just witness what happens?

[MAZTEXAS]

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[TheManFromAcme]

This is the playoffs.... babbling about all this contender bullshit is pointless, why don't we just witness what happens?


Sense,

...that makes sense:toast

[mingus]

i don't think we're contenders. Blair is too inconsistent and inexperienced, McDyess would have trouble defending the bigs that LA has, and Duncan wouldn't be able to have 2-3 bad games in a series versus LA, Magic, or the Cavs. obviously, the Spurs see enough of a hole there to want to sign Splitter for next season. so they no it's a problem.

it'll be extremely difficult for the Spurs to beat LA, let alone the Magic or Cavs, assumming they get past the Suns.

[Giuseppe]

Mingus, tossing the towel prematurely? Sad to see, youngster.

Ostensibly we're built to end you, but, anything can happen. Pop has great stature with NY and the refs. If one guy (not of the usual suspects) blows up you're close.

[mingus]

Mingus, tossing the towel prematurely? Sad to see, youngster.

Ostensibly we're built to end you, but, anything can happen. Pop has great stature with NY and the refs. If one guy (not of the usual suspects) blows up you're close.

i'm not tossing the towel. there's still a glimmer of hope left in me, and as long as that is there, no towel has been tossed. stating the reality of the situation has nothing to do with giving up on them. the Lakers are simply better. they're supposed to beat the Spurs, as are the Magic and Cavs. yet, the Mavs were supposed to as well, so you never know what can happen. another thing is that this team, imo, is still (even at this stage of the season) a work in progress. as well as they've been playing it's seems like their last good game has been the best one they've played, esp. as far as defense is concerned. that it somewhat hard to rank this team. guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Giuseppe]

Like someone else mentioned this morning: Manu has begun to drift again. The nose thing is a hindrance. Not able to breath correctly thru it. Not able to blow it. Not able to pick it. Not able to give it a good rubbing & bending side-to-side. You can bet he's on a strong pain killer as well.