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tlongII
05-01-2010, 01:48 PM
http://www.livescience.com/history/humans-interbred-with-neanderthals-100429.html

Humans today could be part Neanderthal, according to a new study that found our ancestors interbred with an extinct hominid species some millennia ago.

Neanderthals walked the Earth between about 130,000 and 30,000 years ago. While they co-existed with modern humans for a while, eventually they went extinct and we didn't. There has been intense scientific debate over how similar the two species were, and whether they might have mated with each other.

"The issue has been highly contentious for some time," said University of New Mexico genetic anthropologist Keith Hunley.

Last week at the annual meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists in Albuquerque, N.M., Hunley and colleagues presented the results of a new study that found evidence for interbreeding between modern humans and some other extinct ancient human species – either Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) or another group such as Homo heidelbergensis. The research was first reported by NatureNews.

The researchers looked at DNA samples from humans living today, and found signs of leftover Neanderthal genes introduced from this interbreeding. They looked at genetic data from almost 2,000 people around the world, and calculated how much genetic variation existed between samples. The results indicate that some extinct group of hominids mixed their genes with ours at two points in history, Hunley said.

One period of interbreeding probably occurred shortly after Homo sapiens migrated out of Africa around 60,000 years ago. The researchers found an excess of genetic diversity in all modern people except Africans, suggesting that the influx of Neanderthal-like DNA came after the exodus from Africa.

A second period of interbreeding is suggested by the fact that the researchers measured even more genetic diversity among people of Oceanic descent – people from Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea and other Pacific islands.

"I think we show there's clear evidence in the genome of living people of this mixture," Hunley told LiveScience. "The fact that there's a clear signal implies that there was some significant amount" of interbreeding, he said.

This work is the first time scientists have used DNA from living people to look at this question, Hunley said.

In an earlier study, Erik Trinkaus of Washington University in St. Louis found suggestions of Neanderthal and modern human interbreeding by comparing ancient bone fossils from the two species.

Trinkaus said the new work fits into his findings, though he hasn't reviewed the details yet since Hunley's paper has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal. "The conclusion makes sense and fits with the majority of the data available," Trinkaus said.

Another anthropologist who has studied Neanderthal anatomy agreed.

"I have been arguing for this position throughout my career, ever since I began to study Neandertals and other populations," said Milford Wolpoff of the University of Michigan. "It has always seemed clear that some Neandertal anatomy appears in living populations."

Not everyone, though, will be easily convinced yet, Hunley said.

ShoogarBear
05-01-2010, 02:00 PM
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Caveman
05-01-2010, 02:03 PM
no shit.

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05-01-2010, 04:16 PM
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Spurologist
05-01-2010, 06:02 PM
no shit.

:lmao

RuffnReadyOzStyle
05-01-2010, 10:19 PM
Look for the brow ridges.

admiralsnackbar
05-02-2010, 06:24 AM
Look for the brow ridges.

There's a Nowitzki joke here somewhere...

CubanMustGo
05-02-2010, 08:58 AM
There's a Nowitzki joke here somewhere...

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FalleNxWiZarDx
05-02-2010, 10:55 AM
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easjer
05-02-2010, 04:19 PM
I thought this was accepted years ago. . . I guess the news is DNA backing it up?

jacobdrj
05-02-2010, 06:01 PM
I remember reading that the limited genetic variability was likely from a massive near-extinction of Homo Sapiens due to either the Yellowstone volcano eruption or an asteroid impact like the one that destroyed the Clovis people of North America... It would stand to reason that the higher genetic variability in areas far away from North America would have higher genetic diversity.

I am still not convinced that Neanderthals were a different species in the 1st place: We know from our own species right now that the size of our bones can be greatly affected by how much nutrition a particular population receives and the weather conditions. Africans and Australians have soft tissue adaptations that allow for a higher amount of unprotected sunlight. Europeans tend to have soft tissue adaptations to deal with the cold (harrier), and Asians have soft tissue adaptations that seem to be a legacy of the even colder parts of the Ice Age to better cope with the cold (eyelids).

The Ice Age was harsh, I would imagine that the Neanderthals were just a people that got to Europe first and started their adaptations 1st. They 'disappeared' just as any ancient civilization does: Were killed off by rivals and interbreeded with their victors...

MookieCrew
05-02-2010, 06:02 PM
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4>0rings
05-02-2010, 06:44 PM
Who would wanna bang neanderthal pussy?

Gary Neville
05-02-2010, 06:46 PM
What would the offspring be if Humans interbred with fishes? Mermaid?

RandomGuy
05-02-2010, 06:48 PM
I remember reading that the limited genetic variability was likely from a massive near-extinction of Homo Sapiens due to either the Yellowstone volcano eruption or an asteroid impact like the one that destroyed the Clovis people of North America... It would stand to reason that the higher genetic variability in areas far away from North America would have higher genetic diversity.

I am still not convinced that Neanderthals were a different species in the 1st place: We know from our own species right now that the size of our bones can be greatly affected by how much nutrition a particular population receives and the weather conditions. Africans and Australians have soft tissue adaptations that allow for a higher amount of unprotected sunlight. Europeans tend to have soft tissue adaptations to deal with the cold (harrier), and Asians have soft tissue adaptations that seem to be a legacy of the even colder parts of the Ice Age to better cope with the cold (eyelids).

The Ice Age was harsh, I would imagine that the Neanderthals were just a people that got to Europe first and started their adaptations 1st. They 'disappeared' just as any ancient civilization does: Were killed off by rivals and interbreeded with their victors...

After humans pushed out of africa, they would have encountered other groups of hominids, and it would not surprise me that women and/or children taken in tribal raids would end up adding a few genes here or there.

We probably would expect to see echoes, like Chewbacca here:

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PublicOption
05-02-2010, 06:59 PM
whitey didn't see that coming. africans are the superior race.

LOL.

fucking honkeys.

4>0rings
05-02-2010, 07:36 PM
and still dumb as rocks.

Spurminator
05-03-2010, 09:27 AM
Um, this study has already been done.

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Ed Helicopter Jones
05-03-2010, 11:48 AM
So what did modern humans evolve from?

DarkReign
05-04-2010, 09:06 AM
So what did modern humans evolve from?

Ummmm, homo sapiens.

Sometimes, when referring to modern humans, one would say homo sapiens sapiens, dilineating from our genetically identical ancestors.

IIRC, anyway.

ALWAYS bet on BLACK
05-04-2010, 02:35 PM
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The Power Hour
05-04-2010, 02:50 PM
Can you blame neanderthal for hittin' it?

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