David Robinson >> Dirk

[Ignignokt]

WHOTTT BAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.faqs.org/photo-dict/photofiles/list/3089/4131fishing_bait.jpg

[Giuseppe]

No. Robinson couldn't even function until Duncan came there and held his hand. Duncan carried his water the rest of his career.

[JamStone]

I think better whottt bait would be "Dirk >> David Robinson"

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Two T's >>> Three T's

[Mavs_man_41]

Kiss my ass scrah

[Trainwreck2100]

sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_

[Ignignokt]

Kiss my ass scrah

with my dick, faggot?!!

[Ignignokt]

No. Robinson couldn't even function until Duncan came there and held his hand. Duncan carried his water the rest of his career.

lol.. robinson in his second yr was one stupid turnover away from advancing.

stick to immigration.

[Cry Havoc]

No. Robinson couldn't even function until Duncan came there and held his hand. Duncan carried his water the rest of his career.

Yeaaaaaah, cause Dirk would have totally destroyed with players like JR Reid, Sleepy Floyd, and Vinny Del Negro on the court with him.

[Leetonidas]

Both choked in the playoffs so I guess it's only fair to compare their regular season resumes, and David clearly has Dirk beat there. 2 rings faggot!

[dirk4mvp]

Both choked in the playoffs so I guess it's only fair to compare their regular season resumes, and David clearly has Dirk beat there. 2 rings faggot!

Both players have 0 rings as #1 option.

But as whottt would quickly point out, Robinson scored pretty high on his SAT while Dirk likes to get drunk and bang uglies.

lol whottt saying Robinson would be a good presidential candidate

[peteee]

Both players have 0 rings as #1 option.

But as whottt would quickly point out, Robinson scored pretty high on his SAT while Dirk likes to get drunk and bang uglies.

lol whottt saying Robinson would be a good presidential candidate

why not? at least Robinson was born in American soil and has served the navy.

[Giuseppe]

Good to see you back, Peteee. You fuckin' hump, you.

[peteee]

Good to see you back, Peteee. You fuckin' hump, you.

thanks but I'm not very hump, I wish I am though. I haven't eaten enough burritos&tacos to meet your standard of hump TBH.

tee, hee.

[Giuseppe]

Perhaps, but, you ate Kobe's dick, all the way down to the tea bag.

Ya f'in loser, you.

[Leetonidas]

Both players have 0 rings as #1 option.

But as whottt would quickly point out, Robinson scored pretty high on his SAT while Dirk likes to get drunk and bang uglies.

lol whottt saying Robinson would be a good presidential candidate

True, but if Dirk would own up to being the second banana he is and opt out to sign with one of the real contenders, he would be swimming in O'briens.

[Giuseppe]

lol.. robinson in his second yr was one stupid turnover away from advancing.

stick to immigration.

No. I like it when I can stick it to your ass over Robinson. It's always a treat.

[Cane]

David Robinson, easily. Better player, career, stats, accomplishments, etc.

Can ya imagine if David Robinson had Mark Cuban as an owner? Spurs would've been stacked before Duncan. Robinson's supporting cast had a lot deadweight.

[Rogue]

thanks but I'm not very hump, I wish I am though. I haven't eaten enough burritos&tacos to meet your standard of hump TBH.

tee, hee.

maybe you're lying to the beloveds of spurstalk. those lumps on your back that americans call love handles are revolting, imho.

[Rogue]

David Robinson, easily. Better player, career, stats, accomplishments, etc.

Can ya imagine if David Robinson had Mark Cuban as an owner? Spurs would've been stacked before Duncan. Robinson's supporting cast had a lot deadweight.

your posts are quite shitty and this website would be way better off if you weren't conceived in the first place, tbh.

[Cane]

your posts are quite shitty and this website would be way better off if you weren't conceived in the first place, tbh.

:lol

David Robinson + Mark Cuban :lobt2:

Dirk's a waste of effort and money. Must be a shitty life to find yourself as a Mavs fan posting on spurstalk :toast

[Rogue]

:lol

David Robinson + Mark Cuban :lobt2:

Dirk's a waste of effort and money.
i don't mean any harm by my keystrokes directed at your shittiness. i'm just trying to bring peace of mind for those sitting on the fence of your shitty posting.

[Cane]

i don't mean any harm by my keystrokes directed at your shittiness. i'm just trying to bring peace of mind for those sitting on the fence of your shitty posting.

you don't like shift huh?

Dirk's not even in the same tier as Robinson.

[Rogue]

you don't like shift huh?

Dirk's not even in the same tier as Robinson.

tbh i wouldn't even put your shitty posting on the same tier as forum dumb asses like ducks, dickface, and tpark. crawl your way up to those levels first.

[Cane]

tbh i wouldn't even put your shitty posting on the same tier as forum dumb asses like ducks, dickface, and tpark. crawl your way up to those levels first.

Damn look at what being a Mavs fan does to a person!

[Rogue]

Damn look at what being a Mavs fan does to a person!


i am not positive but I think this was supposed to be a funny. however since it was an aborted attempt, I can recommend you to an expert at humor. his name is monosylab1k and he has written for such comedians as Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, etc.

[Cane]

i am not positive but I think this was supposed to be a funny. however since it was an aborted attempt, I can recommend you to an expert at humor. his name is monosylab1k and he has written for such comedians as Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, etc.

So you do know how to use the shift key!

[mavsfan1000]

David Robinson couldn't get to the finals without Duncan. Dirk got to the finals with no other superstar. Dirk wins.

[Rogue]

David Robinson couldn't get to the finals without Duncan. Dirk got to the finals with no other superstar. Dirk wins.
As I'm sure you know as a bullfan, even the great Michael Jeffery Jordan couldn't get to the Finals without Scottie Pimpin.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Spending as the difference maker? Maybe, maybe not. Lots of recent winning supporting casts proved that "chemistry on a budget" > "talent at any cost". Cuban's willingness to spend proves that money can get you to the playoffs but there's got to be a lot more than that to win a trophy.

And I though this debate has been settled. While I think Dirk's underrated as a defender and rebounder Robinson, in his prime, was an elite talent on both ends of the floor. When was the last time that Dirk was asked to defend a team's #1 guy straight up, patrol the paint, and shoulder the scoring load?

[Rogue]

Spending as the difference maker? Maybe, maybe not. Lots of recent winning supporting casts proved that "chemistry on a budget" > "talent at any cost". Cuban's willingness to spend proves that money can get you to the playoffs but there's got to be a lot more than that to win a trophy.

And I though this debate has been settled. While I think Dirk's underrated as a defender and rebounder Robinson, in his prime, was an elite talent on both ends of the floor. When was the last time that Dirk was asked to defend a team's #1 guy straight up, patrol the paint, and shoulder the scoring load?

I cant say I enjoy your posts unless they are using the zingy and wonderful 1 liners. Can you help the brain challenged Cane in his attempt to use humours?

[Mavs_man_41]

with my dick, faggot?!!

not necessarily, your dick is still covered in CBF's butt smegma

i mean i used to hold you in such high regard until you started aligning yourself with those faggots and coming up with the most laughable basketball takes i've ever heard

my, how the mighty have fallen

[Cane]

Spending as the difference maker? Maybe, maybe not. Lots of recent winning supporting casts proved that "chemistry on a budget" > "talent at any cost". Cuban's willingness to spend proves that money can get you to the playoffs but there's got to be a lot more than that to win a trophy.

And I though this debate has been settled. While I think Dirk's underrated as a defender and rebounder Robinson, in his prime, was an elite talent on both ends of the floor. When was the last time that Dirk was asked to defend a team's #1 guy straight up, patrol the paint, and shoulder the scoring load?

Dirk's a great talent now but compared to the rest of the legendary NBA 7 footers...he doesn't come close.

Don't even have to be 7 foot either:

Charles Barkley > Dirk

[Mavs_man_41]

Dirk's a great talent now but compared to the rest of the legendary NBA 7 footers...he doesn't come close.

Don't even have to be 7 foot either:

Charles Barkley > Dirk

right..right..but no one has to be 7 foot in order to own you, you're a midget. even a size like 5'3 is sufficient enough to dominate you in the paint. after years and years of being a fat beaner and clogging your arteries, you've grown so wide and heavy that it has started to compress your spine and you've begun to shrink prematurely.

[z0sa]

1 million dollars >> 500,000 dollars

[Cane]

right..right..but no one has to be 7 foot in order to own you, you're a midget. even a size like 5'3 is sufficient enough to dominate you in the paint..

So what you're saying is that I have a chance of being on the Mavs roster?

http://www.nba.com/media/espanol/josebarea_170x240.jpg

[Mavs_man_41]

1 million dollars >> 500,000 dollars

yup, and 50 > 41

you beaners are getting so good at math and evolving intellectually at such a fast rate that the US better watch out!

[z0sa]

:lol butthurt beaner jokes

[Mavs_man_41]

So what you're saying is that I have a chance of being on the Mavs roster?

http://www.nba.com/media/espanol/josebarea_170x240.jpg

right..you used to be a sufficient size of around 5'7 like jjb in order to make the roster, but you've since shrunk to about 4'10. it's okay though, there's probably a mexican circus or something you can join back home, after you get deported i mean.

[mavsfan1000]

As I'm sure you know as a bullfan, even the great Michael Jeffery Jordan couldn't get to the Finals without Scottie Pimpin.
True. But Duncan>Pippen.

[Mavs_man_41]

by the way guys, i'm just leveling the playing field by typing down to the IQ level of the retarded OP along with my good nigga rogue

[Leetonidas]

David Robinson couldn't get to the finals without Duncan. Dirk got to the finals with no other superstar. Dirk wins.

The only problem with that is David was obviously the second option when Tim came to town. Dirk can't accept that he is a second option. Besides, the 2006 Mavs had at the time or shortly thereafter all-stars in Josh Howard and Devin Harris, as well as recent Sixth Man of the Year winner Jason Terry. If you put David on that team, they stomp the Heat and probably repeat the next year.

[Cane]

The only problem with that is David was obviously the second option when Tim came to town. Dirk can't accept that he is a second option. Besides, the 2006 Mavs had at the time or shortly thereafter all-stars in Josh Howard and Devin Harris, as well as recent Sixth Man of the Year winner Jason Terry. If you put David on that team, they stomp the Heat and probably repeat the next year.

Yea, David Robinson never had the luxury of having Mark Cuban. Even with that huge payroll; Dirk can't win shit! :toast :downspin:

[mavsfan1000]

The only problem with that is David was obviously the second option when Tim came to town. Dirk can't accept that he is a second option. Besides, the 2006 Mavs had at the time or shortly thereafter all-stars in Josh Howard and Devin Harris, as well as recent Sixth Man of the Year winner Jason Terry. If you put David on that team, they stomp the Heat and probably repeat the next year.
Howard and Harris are nice players but they barely made the all-star game. Hardly superstars. Robinson doesn't do much with that team. About the same amount of talent as that spurs before Duncan came there.

[Mavs_man_41]

we're still trying to have serious basketball conversation here about this? you guys continue to lower the bar even further than ever thought possible and impress :tu

[Leetonidas]

Howard and Harris are nice players but they barely made the all-star game. Hardly superstars. Robinson doesn't do much with that team. About the same amount of talent as that spurs before Duncan came there.

Please...those Spurs teams from the early 90s would've sucked ass without David.

[Mavs_man_41]

Please...those Spurs teams from the early 90s would've sucked ass without David.

they sucked ass with him

[Muser]

Gonna bring in some good ones here!!

David never lost to an 8 seed in the first round

DPOY + MVP > MVP

2 Rings > 0!!!

But if I can be serious for a while, can you really compare them? Different styles of play, different era of basketball. Using the Dirk > Robinson because he got to the finals is pretty weak though, I doubt Dirk could've took those Spurs teams to the finals especially when going up against a prime dream.

[TheManFromAcme]

I know D.R. personally. He's attended our Church as a guest speaker several times and is as approachable as anyone I've ever known. The man is as genuine as they get and am personally fond of him even though he's tickled my ribs regarding my team allegiance :lol

With that said,

I'll leave it at that. T.D. and D.R. fed off each other and to say David was not a defensive force to reckon with back in his prime is insane. Dirk can only wish he had the defensive skills David had.

As a scorer, I give it to Dirk. Put a blindfold on that man and he still manages to make a hoop. It's incredible.

David = complete player
Dirk = Can't get his team out of the first round because of lack of some skills aks, defensive. (Reference Thread labled: The Mavericks Paradox)

[Leetonidas]

they sucked ass with him

lol 4-2

[Leetonidas]

I know D.R. personally. He's attended our Church as a guest speaker several times and is as approachable as anyone I've ever known. The man is as genuine as they get and am personally fond of him even though he's tickled my ribs regarding my team allegiance :lol

With that said,

I'll leave it at that. T.D. and D.R. fed off each other and to say David was not a defensive force to reckon with back in his prime is insane. Dirk can only wish he had the defensive skills David had.

As a scorer, I give it to Dirk. Put a blindfold on that man and he still manages to make a hoop. It's incredible.

David = complete player
Dirk = Can't get his team out of the first round because of lack of some skills aks, defensive.

I don't even know if Dirk is a better offensive player than Robinson was. I don't remember Dirk averaging almost 30 a game or scoring 71 points.

[The Franchise]

I like Dirk, but let's be honest. Robinson was the better player easily. He would give you Dirk's scoring, but could also rebound and defend. Dirk never got around to developing those parts of his game.

[Cane]

What was Dirk's highest scoring game? In his prime, Robinson led the league in scoring and had a 71 point game.

So many advantages for the Admiral in this comparison.

[Leetonidas]

^typo

[Mavs_man_41]

I don't even know if Dirk is a better offensive player than Robinson was. I don't remember Dirk averaging almost 30 a game or scoring 73 points.

that's because dirk is as unselfish as they come and always has multiple teammates with double digit scoring for the year.

[Mavs_man_41]

What was Dirk's highest scoring game? In his prime, Robinson led the league in scoring and had a 71 point game.

So many advantages for the Admiral in this comparison.

lol one game makes him the better scorer? dirk is a MUCH more complete and dangerous offensive player, teams have to gameplan around him and double team him constantly. just because he's unselfish and doesn't put up ridiculous scoring numbers like iverson doesn't make him less of an offensive player, in fact it makes him a better one.

[TheManFromAcme]

I don't even know if Dirk is a better offensive player than Robinson was. I don't remember Dirk averaging almost 30 a game or scoring 71 points.

Your right. I was leaning more towards him being a pure shooter.

Dirk is on a dead on collision with a "Legacy-less" career.

[Cane]

Your right. I was leaning more towards him being a pure shooter.

Dirk is on a dead on collision with a "Legacy-less" career.

Yea he's got a legacy for all the wrong reasons. Losing to an 8th seed while being the 1st seed, losing to a 7th seed while being the 2nd seed, giving up a 2-0 lead in the Finals...

He does have a MVP trophy though and Mark Cuban's wallet to try and hide his very obvious weaknesses.

Then again, Robinson also has a MVP trophy without a payroll stacked team. And a scoring title, championships, DPOY, etc.

[Muser]

lol one game makes him the better scorer? dirk is a MUCH more complete and dangerous offensive player, teams have to gameplan around him and double team him constantly. just because he's unselfish and doesn't put up ridiculous scoring numbers like iverson doesn't make him less of an offensive player, in fact it makes him a better one.

Okay, now let's take into account the defense.

[Mavs_man_41]

Okay, now let's take into account the defense.

dirk > robinson offensively

robinson > dirk defensively

the sky is blue

[Cane]

David Robinson >>> Dirk

Charles Barley >>> Dirk

Dirk >= Pau Gasol

[Muser]

Might want to add a few more arrows to the defensive one there.

[Will Hunting]

It's pretty ironic that a fan base famous for it's "haha Sunfan and Mavfan celebrating their regular season accomplishments" sarcastic comments takes so much pride in David Robinson dropping 71 points on the front line of Loy Vaught, Elmore Spencer, Bob Martin and John Williams in an absolutely meaningless game for both teams so he could inflate his stats and ensure he won the regular season scoring title.

[dirk4mvp]

Yea he's got a legacy for all the wrong reasons. Losing to an 8th seed while being the 1st seed, losing to a 7th seed while being the 2nd seed, giving up a 2-0 lead in the Finals...

He does have a MVP trophy though and Mark Cuban's wallet to try and hide his very obvious weaknesses.

Then again, Robinson also has a MVP trophy without a payroll stacked team. And a scoring title, championships, DPOY, etc.

Being the best European/International player in NBA history isn't that bad of a legacy.

[dirk4mvp]

Dirk = Pau Gasol

:lmao

Any more retarded takes?

[Cane]

Being the best European/International player in NBA history isn't that bad of a legacy.

It is when you take a look into his NBA career.

[Muser]

David Robinson >>> Dirk

Charles Barley >>> Dirk

Dirk >= Pau Gasol

Charles > Dirk is very arguable.

[dirk4mvp]

It is when you take a look into his NBA career.

Yeah when people take a look back and determine he's the best International player in NBA history, they'll say det's bad!

Rogue was right, you are a worthless sack of shit.

[Mavs_man_41]

It's pretty ironic that a fan base famous for it's "haha Sunfan and Mavfan celebrating their regular season accomplishments" sarcastic comments takes so much pride in David Robinson dropping 71 points on the front line of Loy Vaught, Elmore Spencer, Bob Martin and John Williams in an absolutely meaningless game for both teams so he could inflate his stats and ensure he won the regular season scoring title.

:lmao ouch

[Cane]

:lmao

Any more retarded takes?

This thread is nothing but retarded trolling especially by Mav fans who actually think Dirk is anywhere near the overall level of Robinson.

[Brazil]

of course DRob>Dirk

[Fpoonsie]

that's because dirk is as unselfish as they come and always has multiple teammates with double digit scoring for the year.

:lol

You act as if Dirk gets off on throwin dimes every night. His career avg is a little under 3, while Dave averaged 1 over his lengthy career.

Career high...Dirk-12, Dave-11.

Try again.

[Ghazi]

Yea he's got a legacy for all the wrong reasons. Losing to an 8th seed while being the 1st seed, losing to a 7th seed while being the 2nd seed, giving up a 2-0 lead in the Finals...

He does have a MVP trophy though and Mark Cuban's wallet to try and hide his very obvious weaknesses.

Then again, Robinson also has a MVP trophy without a payroll stacked team. And a scoring title, championships, DPOY, etc.


1. Robinson did the same thing
2. Robinson never led a team to the Finals to even have a chance to "choke" (get screwed by officiating)
3. Erick Dampier never lived up to his contract
4. Duncan held his hand

That being said, Robinson's better than Dirk due to defensive impact, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the Spurs tanked their way into Duncan winning him 2 campionships.

[dirk4mvp]

This thread is nothing but retarded trolling especially by Mav fans who actually think Dirk is anywhere near the overall level of Robinson.

Oh because your dumb ass says so right?

[Ignignokt]

No. I like it when I can stick it to your ass over Robinson. It's always a treat.

yeah and kobe and shaq were getting swept until phil jackson came along.

[Will Hunting]

Yea he's got a legacy for all the wrong reasons. Losing to an 8th seed while being the 1st seed, losing to a 7th seed while being the 2nd seed, giving up a 2-0 lead in the Finals...


Almost as embarrassing as being on the receiving end of one of the biggest bukkakes in professional sports history.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505220SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505240SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505260HOU.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505300SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199506010HOU.html

[Cane]

1. Robinson did the same thing
2. Robinson never led a team to the Finals to even have a chance to "choke" (get screwed by officiating)
3. Erick Dampier never lived up to his contract
4. Duncan held his hand

That being said, Robinson's better than Dirk due to defensive impact, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the Spurs tanked their way into Duncan winning him 2 campionships.

Those are great marks for anyone's career (championships).

Kudos though that you realize Robinson > Dirk.

[dirk4mvp]

:lol

You act as if Dirk gets off on throwin dimes every night. His career avg is a little under 3, while Dave averaged 1 over his lengthy career.

Career high...Dirk-12, Dave-11.

Try again.

Did his post imply he was out there dropping several dimes a night?

[Cane]

Almost as embarrassing as being on the receiving end of one of the biggest bukkakes in professional sports history.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505220SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505240SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505260HOU.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505300SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199506010HOU.html

Better than losing to a team in the Finals with Shaq past his prime imo especially considering their payrolls between Robinson's team and all of Dirk's.

[Ignignokt]

Oh because your dumb ass says so right?

be honest scrah,

If you had an option to have 94 Robinson or 06 Dirk in the Miami series, who would you pick, or for that matter, in the GS series.

I tell you what.. J rich, Barnes, Jax would all not gotten that many dunks and the paint would have been patrolled like no other.

[Fpoonsie]

Did his post imply he was out there dropping several dimes a night?

...sort of. "Unselfish" usually implies "high assist totals."

[shrug]

[Ignignokt]

Let me ask you a serious question..

Could dirk lead a team of

Vinny Del Negro
Jr Smith
Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_
Avery
Cadillac anderson
etc to the finals?

[dirk4mvp]

be honest scrah,

If you had an option to have 94 Robinson or 06 Dirk in the Miami series, who would you pick, or for that matter, in the GS series.

I tell you what.. J rich, Barnes, Jax would all not gotten that many dunks and the paint would have been patrolled like no other.

Jrich, Barnes, Jax also wouldn't have gotten those dunks if Dampier tried to actually earn any of the money he was given.

[dirk4mvp]

...sort of. "Unselfish" usually implies "high assist totals."

[shrug]

Since when?

[Cane]

A prime David Robinson would be the best big man in the league right now and second only to Lebron in MVP votes.

[Cane]

Oh yea OP, not enough arrows.

David Robinson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirk

[Fpoonsie]

Since when?

...since I just recently inferred that it did.

[Ignignokt]

Robinson
Damp, Diop
Howard
Terry
Harris
Stack



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http://hurtyelbow.typepad.com/images/spaghetti.jpg


FTW!

+1

[Will Hunting]

Then again, Robinson also has a MVP trophy without a payroll stacked team.


Robinson's MVP year was with the best rebounder of all time at power forward, a prime Sean Elliott at SF and a back court of Avery Johnson and Del Negro that was by no means bad. Don't act like that 1995 team was bad.

[The Franchise]

Charles > Dirk is very arguable.

Not really.

[Ignignokt]

Jrich, Barnes, Jax also wouldn't have gotten those dunks if Dampier tried to actually earn any of the money he was given.

You wouldn't need damp, you have robinson.

[dirk4mvp]

Better than losing to a team in the Finals with Shaq past his prime imo especially considering their payrolls between Robinson's team and all of Dirk's.

So is that the same Shaq who finished 2nd in MVP voting the year before and put up 20 and 9 during the Heat's title year?

[Fpoonsie]

Robinson's MVP year was with the best rebounder of all time at power forward, a prime Sean Elliott at SF and a back court of Avery Johnson and Del Negro that was by no means bad. Don't act like that 1995 team was bad.

When did Avery Johnson and VDG become such power players? Ever since it helped your argument to suggest as much?

I can totally empathize.

[Ignignokt]

Robinson's MVP year was with the best rebounder of all time at power forward, a prime Sean Elliott at SF and a back court of Avery Johnson and Del Negro that was by no means bad. Don't act like that 1995 team was bad.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

lets not even talk about the bench.. Robinson had no sixth man.

[dirk4mvp]

...since I just recently inferred that it did.

Congrats.

[Will Hunting]

Better than losing to a team in the Finals with Shaq past his prime imo especially considering their payrolls between Robinson's team and all of Dirk's.

No it's not better. The Spurs won 62 games that year, the Rockets didn't even win 50.

Are you seriously grasping at the straw of payroll? Wtf does Michael Finley's, Keith Van Horn's and Eric Dampier's contract have anything to do with this topic?

[Muser]

Almost as embarrassing as being on the receiving end of one of the biggest bukkakes in professional sports history.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505220SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505240SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505260HOU.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505300SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199506010HOU.html


If Hakeem could do that to David i'd love to see what he could do to Dirk tbh.

[Fpoonsie]

Congrats.

:toast

Mavs_man is more than welcome to correct me.

[Ignignokt]

LoL.. if people were bitching about Howard's antics they pale in comparison to Rodman's during the Houston series.

[Sportstudi]

The only problem with that is David was obviously the second option when Tim came to town. Dirk can't accept that he is a second option. Besides, the 2006 Mavs had at the time or shortly thereafter all-stars in Josh Howard and Devin Harris, as well as recent Sixth Man of the Year winner Jason Terry. If you put David on that team, they stomp the Heat and probably repeat the next year.

That's probably the worst bullshit I ever read on this board. I'm 100 percent sure Dirk has absolutely no problem to play the second fiddle if it helps the team. He's a team player, not an egocentric guy. Therefore, yes, I think Dirk doesn't mind at all to defer if either a better player comes to Dallas or if he signs with another team.

[Greg Oden]

:toast

Mavs_man is more than welcome to correct me.

To follow along with dirk4mvp's Congratulations to you, you should check out MGMT's sophomore effort.

[Will Hunting]

When did Avery Johnson and VDG become such power players? Ever since it helped your argument to suggest as much?

I can totally empathize.


Avery Johnson averaged 13 points and 8 assists in 1995, those numbers would lead the 2006 Mavs in assists and would be 4th in scoring.

[z0sa]

:lol at anyone who thinks this is an actual debate.

It's DRob by a considerable margin, or you're an idiot.

[Greg Oden]

:lol at anyone who thinks this is an actual debate.

It's DRob by a considerable margin, or you're an idiot.

Judging by the way you get bukkaked in every other argument, you should probably slow down with the whole "My opinion is right" stance. After all, it's not every day someone gets rolled on by Ballijuana.

[Fpoonsie]

Avery Johnson averaged 13 points and 8 assists in 1995, those numbers would lead the 2006 Mavs in assists and would be 4th in scoring.

I don't think it'd be too much of a stretch to surmise that a lot of those assists were relatively simple heaves to the hoop or hand-offs in the paint, both more often than not, to a dominant 7 ft center in the paint.

Not that difficult, and certainly not that noteworthy, TBH. Avery should be thanking Dave daily for inflating his stats in such a manner.

[Ignignokt]

Avery Johnson averaged 13 points and 8 assists in 1995, those numbers would lead the 2006 Mavs in assists and would be 4th in scoring.


If avery johnson was playing against the spurs that year for the mavs...

you would have worst results than 4-2 this year against a prime duncan, bruce bowen.. lol x10000

Harris was a pain..

Also.. duncan had no slashers at all.

Dirk had an array of slashers, good iso, and sharp shooters.

[z0sa]

Judging by the way you get bukkaked in every other argument, you should probably slow down with the whole "My opinion is right" stance. After all, it's not every day someone gets rolled on by Ballijuana.

:lol there's no argument for Dirk > DRob.

[Ignignokt]

Judging by the way you get bukkaked in every other argument, you should probably slow down with the whole "My opinion is right" stance. After all, it's not every day someone gets rolled on by Ballijuana.

zosa got splooooooooadddateed!!!!!!!!

[Will Hunting]

LoL.. if people were bitching about Howard's antics they pale in comparison to Rodman's during the Houston series.


I don't blame Rodman for this antics. If someone had been bitching to him all season about how he didn't love Jesus enough and needed to go to Church more and then that person went on to get fondled by Hakeem Olajuwon, Rodman probably felt maybe this guy should worry less about me going to Church and worry more about not letting Olajuwon drop 40 points.

[Greg Oden]

zosa got splooooooooadddateed!!!!!!!!

smeagma has been released into the atmosphere.

[Ignignokt]

I don't blame Rodman for this antics. If someone had been bitching to him all season about how he didn't love Jesus enough and needed to go to Church more and then that person went on to get fondled by Hakeem Olajuwon, Rodman probably felt maybe this guy should worry less about me going to Church and worry more about not letting Olajuwon drop 40 points.

LOL! 90's Boston Celtics

LOL! 1st rd coke binge!

[ambchang]

No it's not better. The Spurs won 62 games that year, the Rockets didn't even win 50.

Are you seriously grasping at the straw of payroll? Wtf does Michael Finley's, Keith Van Horn's and Eric Dampier's contract have anything to do with this topic?

Rockets were dealing with injuries and integrating Drexler, Maxwell going nuts, etc .. during the regular season.

That team was built for the playoffs, especially with the shortened 3 pt line.

[Will Hunting]

LOL! 90's Boston Celtics

LOL! 1st rd coke binge!


Sorry, we also tried really hard to tank for Duncan and did a better job, you guys just got luckier.

[ambchang]

I don't blame Rodman for this antics. If someone had been bitching to him all season about how he didn't love Jesus enough and needed to go to Church more and then that person went on to get fondled by Hakeem Olajuwon, Rodman probably felt maybe this guy should worry less about me going to Church and worry more about not letting Olajuwon drop 40 points.

Hakeem dropped 35 ppg on Robinson on single teams, he dropped 33 ppg on a Shaq and Grant double team in the finals.

I sometimes wonder if people actually watched that series.

[Cane]

No it's not better. The Spurs won 62 games that year, the Rockets didn't even win 50.

Are you seriously grasping at the straw of payroll? Wtf does Michael Finley's, Keith Van Horn's and Eric Dampier's contract have anything to do with this topic?

Hell yea its better, Robinson got knocked out by The Dream, son. Same with Shaq that year. Payrolls are pretty damn important, Dirk has had the best owner in sports in Mark Cuban trying to pay his way into a championship. Robinson was in a stingy franchise that could only win after a godsend aka Duncan.

Robinson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirk in just about every aspect of the game except jumpshooting.

[Will Hunting]

Hakeem dropped 35 ppg on Robinson on single teams, he dropped 33 ppg on a Shaq and Grant double team in the finals.

I sometimes wonder if people actually watched that series.


Congrats to David Robinson, he can defend better than a 22 year old Shaquille O'Neal.

[Will Hunting]

Hell yea its better, Robinson got knocked out by The Dream, son. Same with Shaq that year. Payrolls are pretty damn important, Dirk has had the best owner in sports in Mark Cuban trying to pay his way into a championship. Robinson was in a stingy franchise that could only win after a godsend aka Duncan.


Good point. It's a lot easier to win a championship when Keith Van Horn, Michael Finley, and Eric Dampier are making 30+ million combined and clogging up payroll. I can't imagine what the 2006 Mavs woulda been without those studs.

[diego]

dirk isnt even better than carlos boozer, if he were a mav fan would have argued the point with me in the mavs paradox thread.

[Mavs_man_41]

dirk isnt even better than carlos boozer, if he were a mav fan would have argued the point with me in the mavs paradox thread.

about as intelligent of a post as we'd expect out of someone with the ultrageneric beaner name "diego"

[Will Hunting]

about as intelligent of a post as we'd expect out of someone with the ultrageneric beaner name "diego"


:lmao

[Man About Town]

Dirk > Robinson.

Dirk can be a freaky dude. I know for a fact that he loves to hit the town and pick up some skank bitches to take back to the crib for Guitar Hero and make-out sessions:

http://www.buveurs.com/local/cache-vignettes/L500xH375/dirk_drunk2-9b08c.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/173504825_14ab935bd9_o.jpg


The Admiral, on the other hand, is a church-going man. Nothing wrong with that I guess, but he's not down for some bumps:

http://pastorron7.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/david-robinson.jpg

[badfish22]

dirk

lmao Robinson.

[AnthonyM]

lol mavs fans

lol 4-2

lol avoiding questions

lol no argument

[nkdlunch]

lol mavfans still here

[badfish22]

:lmao Robinson

[ambchang]

Congrats to David Robinson, he can defend better than a 22 year old Shaquille O'Neal.

Did you go blind with regards to Horace Grant? Who, at that time, was one of the better and more mobile defensive PF in the league?

[Phillip]

And I though this debate has been settled. While I think Dirk's underrated as a defender and rebounder Robinson, in his prime, was an elite talent on both ends of the floor. When was the last time that Dirk was asked to defend a team's #1 guy straight up, patrol the paint, and shoulder the scoring load?

To be fair, when Robinson was doing all that, did they win anything? If your #1 guy is doing all of that, all the time, your team is not going to win a championship.

[Phillip]

:lol

You act as if Dirk gets off on throwin dimes every night. His career avg is a little under 3, while Dave averaged 1 over his lengthy career.

Career high...Dirk-12, Dave-11.

Try again.

And Allen Iverson was consistently averaging 7 dimes a night, which is a very nice assist average. So I guess that means he was a great traditional PG who played very unselfishly :tu

[Phillip]

losing to a 7th seed while being the 2nd seed...

LMAO 93-94

LMAO scoring champ year

LMAO 3-1

LMAO jazz

[The Franchise]

To be fair, when Robinson was doing all that, did they win anything? If your #1 guy is doing all of that, all the time, your team is not going to win a championship.

Think about this post then STFU.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Did whotttttt ever show up in this thread?

also, Mavs fans have to be blind Dirk homers to say he's better than DRob. He's not light years behind him like Spur Fan says, but he's definitely not at the same level. Dirk would have to win a title as the #1 to be greater than D-Rob.

[Phillip]

Did whotttttt ever show up in this thread?

also, Mavs fans have to be blind Dirk homers to say he's better than DRob. He's not light years behind him like Spur Fan says, but he's definitely not at the same level. Dirk would have to win a title as the #1 to be greater than D-Rob.

Robinson is a better all-around player, definitely. No argument here.

But I think it's very arguable that Dirk has a better court presence than Robinson because of the mismatch that he brings to the table.

[FkLA]

Robinson is a better all-around player, definitely. No argument here.

But I think it's very arguable that Dirk has a better court presence than Robinson because of the mismatch that he brings to the table.

'court prescence'?

lol wtf youre reaching br0...you rly are.

[Phillip]

'court prescence'?

lol wtf youre reaching br0...you rly are.

I'm sorry that you are too stupid to understand the importance of court presence, especially when you have a guy like Tim Duncan on your favorite team, who has arguably the greatest court presence the NBA has seen, only behind maybe Michael Jordan.

[FkLA]

I'm sorry that you are too stupid to understand the importance of court presence, especially when you have a guy like Tim Duncan on your favorite team, who has arguably the greatest court presence the NBA has seen, only behind maybe Michael Jordan.

Robinson in his prime is right on par with Dirk as far as things go on the offensive end, and created just as many matchup problems given his athleticism and mobility for a guy his size. On top of that he was an infinitely better defender than Dirk ever will be. No amount of 'court presence' changes these facts. Quit reachin.

[Phillip]

Robinson in his prime is right on par with Dirk as far as things go on the offensive end, and created just as many matchup problems given his athleticism and mobility for a guy his size. On top of that he was an infinitely better defender than Dirk ever will be. No amount of 'court presence' changes these facts. Quit reachin.

Neat. Too bad he didn't accomplish any more than Dirk has with all those talents. An MVP, a bunch of early playoff exits, and no finals appearances. So much for a guy who is infinitely better than Dirk. :rolleyes

oh wait, he has a DPOY. There it is. Proof that he is infinitely better than Dirk.

lame. gfy faggot

[dirk4mvp]

Think about this post then STFU.

So do you have any thoughts of your own, rockette fan?



oh wait, he has a DPOY. There it is. Proof that he is infinitely better than Dirk.

True, tbh. Dwight Howard >> Tim Duncan.

[scottspurs]

I would take the Admiral over Dirk any day.

[ffadicted]

I think it's safe to say the bait was very successful lol

[dirk4mvp]

Yeah considering how many times Whottt responded.

[anonoftheinternets]

Yeah considering how many times Whottt responded.

yeah, good think we live in a world without trolls.

[Greg Oden]

The Troll Whisperer has pm'd me and let me know nobody in this thread is an alias of whottt, so gfy.

[z0sa]

But I think it's very arguable that Dirk has a better court presence than Robinson because of the mismatch that he brings to the table.


:lmao :lmao :lmao

WTF is measured by "court presence" and why would Dirk have more than DRob? DRob actually excelled on D and put up huge, all-time great stats on the defensive end.

If you compare Dirk's stats now (at age 31) with DRob at age 30 (his last full season before Timmy was drafted), DRob still wins by a considerable margin.

[8FOR!3]

'court prescence'?

lol wtf youre reaching br0...you rly are.

He's right. Dirk spreads the court more, a la Matt Bonner. :lol

[LEONERD]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

WTF is measured by "court presence" and why would Dirk have more than DRob? DRob actually excelled on D and put up huge, all-time great stats on the defensive end.

If you compare Dirk's stats now (at age 31) with DRob at age 30 (his last full season before Timmy was drafted), DRob still wins by a considerable margin.

You must be in the running for the Shittiest Poster award. It's evident by your mass amounts of shitty posts.

[Ignignokt]

lol zosa!

[The Troll Whisperer]

The Troll Whisperer has pm'd me and let me know nobody in this thread is an alias of whottt, so gfy.

tsst!

[picc84]

Dirk may have the least "court presence" of any superstar i've ever seen.

[8FOR!3]

But, but, but Dirk spreads the court, shoots 40%+ from 3, and has a great +/- in most games...Sure he can't play defense, but he's developing a nice little hook in the inside.

[The Franchise]

So do you have any thoughts of your own, rockette fan?

A couple actually. First, Robinson was a better rebounder, defender, plus just as effective a scorer as Dirk. This isn't attacking Dirk, just stating facts. Anyone arguing against this is ignorant. Two, Robinson has 2 rings which makes him a champion. This fact will forever seperate him from Dirk. That's my two thoughts. You may continue with your ignorance now. :lol

[Leetonidas]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1008480

This isn't a debate to anyone but Mavfan.

[Greg Oden]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1008480

This isn't a debate to anyone but Mavfan.

Funny. You're 15 and never saw David Robinson, especially in his prime. When does your opinion matter about anything?

[badfish22]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1008480

This isn't a debate to anyone but Mavfan.

Crofl all this thread did was upset spurfan

[badfish22]

Playoff averages

Robinson- 18/10.6

Dirk- 25.6/10.9

[Leetonidas]

Funny. You're 15 and never saw David Robinson, especially in his prime. When does your opinion matter about anything?

Funny, I'm not 15 and you're some faceless faggot on the internet trying to troll as Greg Oden. So go fuck yourself. :toast

[Leetonidas]

Crofl all this thread did was upset spurfan

Really? Because it sounds like a bunch of Mavfans vehemently trying to assert that Dirk is better than Robinson when every other fan of basketball if laughing at their screen.

[badfish22]

I'll show em! I'll go make a thread on realgm! Then they will see!

[Greg Oden]

Funny, I'm not 15 and you're some faceless faggot on the internet trying to troll as Greg Oden. So go fuck yourself. :toast

Strong words coming from an angry little stoner beaner. Your life is not important.

[ambchang]

Playoff averages

Robinson- 18/10.6

Dirk- 25.6/10.9

Because he played half his playoff games after severe back and knee injuries?

[Phillip]

Because he played half his playoff games after severe back and knee injuries?

Spurfan making excuses? No surprises here. Just making the excuses they are supposed to make.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Because he played half his playoff games after severe back and knee injuries?

is it Dirk's fault he's durable?

[Nahtanoj]

Are they really asserting that Dirk has been a greater player than The Admiral? Is this a joke? Am I being punked? Robinson was an incredible player, a supremely athletic and talented freak of nature.. he was one of those rare players that can influence a game without scoring. What the heck can Dirk do without shooting?

[Cry Havoc]

Playoff averages

Robinson- 18/10.6

Dirk- 25.6/10.9

I'm sure the fact that Robinson averaged almost 3 blocks per game in the playoffs to Dirk's 1 has nothing to do with this conversation.

Court presence indeed. A guy who would be leading the league in blocks if he played today has less court presence than a guy who doesn't play defense?

Is this thread real?

Dirk is fantastic. I give him crazy props for being the only man with sack big enough to step up on the Mavs over the past 5-6 years.

However, while he's a 10 on offense, he's a 4 to 6 on defense, depending on the day.

Robinson was roughly an 8 on offense, and a 10 on defense.

I could understand why Mav Fan disregards defense as a determining factor of a player's worth so readily, though.


is it Dirk's fault he's durable?

Playing only the offensive side of things will definitely save you some wear and tear. I wonder how long Dirk would last if he ever had to guard Hakeem, or Shaq, or David, or Ewing, etc.

[21_Blessings]

Yeah Drob > Dirk is a no brainer

[FkLA]

Playoff averages

Robinson- 18/10.6

Dirk- 25.6/10.9

:lol

Please tell me youre not this stupid, several people have already made arguments to completely disclaim this piece of shit argument. But I'll add to the ownage...youre comparing the averages of a player who is still in his prime (or close to) to a player that is retired and went through the inevitable decline. Thats like saying Dirk is on par with Shaq because Shaq's playoff averages have gone down as he reaches the end of his career.

How about you compare DRob's playoff numbers in his prime and before all the injuries, to Dirk's 25.6 & 10.9? Either that or wait until Dirk retires and/or declines. Not that it would matter since the double digit rpg still doesnt change the fact that Dirk cant even begin to touch Robinson when it comes to defense.

here's ur sig btw:

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/unam6989/dirkkk.jpg

[Sportstudi]

I'm sure the fact that Robinson averaged almost 3 blocks per game in the playoffs to Dirk's 1 has nothing to do with this conversation.

Court presence indeed. A guy who would be leading the league in blocks if he played today has less court presence than a guy who doesn't play defense?

Is this thread real?

Dirk is fantastic. I give him crazy props for being the only man with sack big enough to step up on the Mavs over the past 5-6 years.

However, while he's a 10 on offense, he's a 4 to 6 on defense, depending on the day.

Robinson was roughly an 8 on offense, and a 10 on defense.

I could understand why Mav Fan disregards defense as a determining factor of a player's worth so readily, though.



Playing only the offensive side of things will definitely save you some wear and tear. I wonder how long Dirk would last if he ever had to guard Hakeem, or Shaq, or David, or Ewing, etc.

Robinson was a better player than Dirk, no discussions here. Everybody with a healthy brain should know that. However, it's kind of funny that this thread was made by a Spurfan. Why? Probably he just wanted to troll and see how many Mavs-fans will come and argue. Yes, I'm a Mavs-fan, but I think I'm still objective enough to see the truth.

/thread.

[ambchang]

Spurfan making excuses? No surprises here. Just making the excuses they are supposed to make.

Robinson playing half his playoff games after he had major injuries to his back and knees is a fact, not an excuse. It is a fact that his statistics dropped after the injuries, and it explained why he had lower career playoff scoring and rebounding averages than Dirk.

An excuse would be blaming the refs for a historical collapse in the finals, or blaming stoner teammates for a 1st round loss to an 8th seedn.


is it Dirk's fault he's durable?

Did I ever said it was?

[stretch]

:blah excuses :blah excuses :blah excuses :blah

[TampaDude]

Hey stretch...that gif in your sig is disturbing...what movie is that from? :lol

[ambchang]

Stretch, at least use your trolls like you did previously.

[stretch]

Stretch, at least use your trolls like you did previously.

Butthurtedness. No surprises here. Just spurfan being butthurt like he's supposed to be butthurt.

[badfish22]

:lol

Please tell me youre not this stupid, several people have already made arguments to completely disclaim this piece of shit argument. But I'll add to the ownage...youre comparing the averages of a player who is still in his prime (or close to) to a player that is retired and went through the inevitable decline. Thats like saying Dirk is on par with Shaq because Shaq's playoff averages have gone down as he reaches the end of his career.

How about you compare DRob's playoff numbers in his prime and before all the injuries, to Dirk's 25.6 & 10.9? Either that or wait until Dirk retires and/or declines. Not that it would matter since the double digit rpg still doesnt change the fact that Dirk cant even begin to touch Robinson when it comes to defense.

here's ur sig btw:

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/unam6989/dirkkk.jpg

You spend weeks working on it, and thats what you come up with? lmao

[DisAsTerBot]

whoever is rogue now sucks

[FkLA]

You spend weeks working on it, and thats what you come up with? lmao

was taking finals tbh

i didnt make it, got it from a thread on the spurs board.

[Ashy Larry]

hell, tampon juice > dirk at this point

[Agloco]

It's pretty ironic that a fan base famous for it's "haha Sunfan and Mavfan celebrating their regular season accomplishments" sarcastic comments takes so much pride in David Robinson dropping 71 points on the front line of Loy Vaught, Elmore Spencer, Bob Martin and John Williams in an absolutely meaningless game for both teams so he could inflate his stats and ensure he won the regular season scoring title.

Because its a widely recognized NBA award with meaning you ignorant dipshit. It wouldn't have mattered even if he dropped it on you and two monkeys. Although, I suppose that for those teams without any championship banners, a division championship banner means just as much.......

[Agloco]

Butthurtedness. No surprises here. Just spurfan being butthurt like he's supposed to be butthurt.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152777

Eat shit Stretch. :toast

[z0sa]

^ :lmao goddamn stretch's life is a sad sack of goatshit

[baseline bum]

Yea, David Robinson never had the luxury of having Mark Cuban. Even with that huge payroll; Dirk can't win shit! :toast :downspin:

Yeah, Cuban would have never let Rod Strickland walk in 93, only to be replaced by that scrub Vinny Del Negro. Cuban probably would have ok'ed the trade for Barkley. As much of an ass as Cuban is at the games, he's still a 100x better owner than cheap-ass Red McCombs.

[baseline bum]

Robinson's MVP year was with the best rebounder of all time at power forward, a prime Sean Elliott at SF and a back court of Avery Johnson and Del Negro that was by no means bad. Don't act like that 1995 team was bad.

Avery Johnson wasn't a good player until 1998 when he started actually hitting jumpshots and Del Negro was JJ Barea minus the speed.

[stretch]

^ :lmao goddamn stretch's life is a sad sack of goatshit

hi z0sa

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

sieg heil!
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070205/070205_neonazi_hmed_3p.hmedium.jpg


:wow

[Will Hunting]

Because its a widely recognized NBA award with meaning you ignorant dipshit. It wouldn't have mattered even if he dropped it on you and two monkeys. Although, I suppose that for those teams without any championship banners, a division championship banner means just as much.......



Funny you say it's a recognized award, then when a Suns fan or a Mavs fan wants to talk about Nowitzki or Nash's MVP award Spurfan pulls out the, "haha regular season award" scoff card.

[Agloco]

Funny you say it's a recognized award, then when a Suns fan or a Mavs fan wants to talk about Nowitzki or Nash's MVP award Spurfan pulls out the, "haha regular season award" scoff card.

Again, because they develop a serious case of blueball anytime either of them steps onto the court during the playoffs. A trophy case full of regular season shit gets you laughed at around here.

[4>0rings]

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/unam6989/dirkkk.jpg
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Cant_Be_Faded]

http://gordonkeith.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/mavs.jpg