View Full Version : Tony Parker needed against Nash
mavsfan1000
05-07-2010, 12:53 AM
This guy should be starting and getting 20+ shots against Nash. This will wear Nash down over the course of the game and Parker should shoot over 50%. Duncan has an advantage as well but Parker has the biggest advantage. Time for him to stop being unselfish and go right at Nash. Maybe his conditioning isn't what it needs to be is the only reason he shouldn't be dominating in this series.
spurs10
05-07-2010, 01:09 AM
Agreed....TP needs to wear Nash down...I'm expecting even more aggression from him at home.
Pauleta14
05-07-2010, 04:20 AM
It doesn't depend on Tony's wishes!
It depends on CIA Pop's brain and the way he seed things...
Right now, I'm sure he doesn't wanna change anything about the guards positions/rotations, he is too stubborn/concervative for that...
IMO, the right move would be starting Parker with Hill and Manu comes off the bench as he used too.
AND GIVE TONY THE KEYS !!!! (at least for these series)
xapatan2
05-07-2010, 06:51 AM
Impossible for me to find any rational explanation for not having Parker starting against the suns...
:bang
We'll see but here is the major coaching mistake of this series.
Is it now too late ?
Future will tell, but dismissing and ignoring the many playoffs series during the past years where Parker has been dominating the point guard matchup is a non sense for me.
I am not with Pop on this one. I have the impresssion there is something else between them (Pop and Parker) that explains what we are witnessing.
Xap'
EricB
05-07-2010, 07:05 AM
:lol so now there's something going on between pop and Parker sighhhhhhh
Bukefal
05-07-2010, 07:12 AM
There is nothing going on between tp and pop, come on :bang It's just his decision, he wanted the starters to remain the same, because it worked before. Maybe he will start him this time.
I hope he does cause tp needs to start against the suns. We will see. But I dont think it has anything to do with the something going on between pop and tp.
dreamcastrocks
05-07-2010, 08:47 AM
There is nothing going on between tp and pop, come on :bang It's just his decision, he wanted the starters to remain the same, because it worked before. Maybe he will start him this time.
I hope he does cause tp needs to start against the suns. We will see. But I dont think it has anything to do with the something going on between pop and tp.
If you start Tony Parker, who do you have on the bench? Do you really trust having to sit Tim, Tony, and Manu at or around the same time? Do you trust Hill, Bonner, Mason, and Blair to outplay the Suns bench?
I'm pretty sure this is what he fears by starting Parker.
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 08:53 AM
If you start Tony Parker, who do you have on the bench? Do you really trust having to sit Tim, Tony, and Manu at or around the same time? Do you trust Hill, Bonner, Mason, and Blair to outplay the Suns bench?
I'm pretty sure this is what he fears by starting Parker.
Why not start Tony and bring Manu off the bench??
dreamcastrocks
05-07-2010, 09:13 AM
Why not start Tony and bring Manu off the bench??
Of course that is an option. The talk (or at least the perception) seems to center around Tony Parker taking the place of George Hill, not Manu. If you bring Manu off of the bench, are you going to start both Parker and Hill? Or bring in someone like Mason/Bogans? Neither one sounds exactly promising....
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 09:25 AM
Of course that is an option. The talk (or at least the perception) seems to center around Tony Parker taking the place of George Hill, not Manu. If you bring Manu off of the bench, are you going to start both Parker and Hill? Or bring in someone like Mason/Bogans? Neither one sounds exactly promising....
The reason you bring Manu in off the bench is so you have some scoring while Tony and Tim rest. I would say Hill and Parker to start and Bogans/Manu off the bench. I think Bogans is our best chance at knocking down the open look 3's he should get when Manu penetrates. Mason should be getting splinters from all the pine riding for the rest of the playoffs.
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2010, 10:12 AM
The reason you bring Manu in off the bench is so you have some scoring while Tony and Tim rest. I would say Hill and Parker to start and Bogans/Manu off the bench. I think Bogans is our best chance at knocking down the open look 3's he should get when Manu penetrates. Mason should be getting splinters from all the pine riding for the rest of the playoffs.
Hey, sa_butta, I can't start threads anymore. Please start a thread,
"cantthingofanything officially apologizes for starting repetitive threads and won't do it anymore"
If you do, I will guarantee a Spurs victory tonight.
dreamcastrocks
05-07-2010, 10:14 AM
The reason you bring Manu in off the bench is so you have some scoring while Tony and Tim rest. I would say Hill and Parker to start and Bogans/Manu off the bench. I think Bogans is our best chance at knocking down the open look 3's he should get when Manu penetrates. Mason should be getting splinters from all the pine riding for the rest of the playoffs.
I understand the reasoning behind it. In fact, I don't think that Parker should start unless you bring Manu off of the bench. Not sure Pop will do it. As a Suns fan, I hope he doesn't.
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 10:24 AM
Hey, sa_butta, I can't start threads anymore. Please start a thread,
"cantthingofanything officially apologizes for starting repetitive threads and won't do it anymore"
If you do, I will guarantee a Spurs victory tonight.
Why the hell can you not start any threads??:bang
Why dont you just PM one of the Admins and see if you can work something out.
xapatan2
05-07-2010, 10:24 AM
:lol so now there's something going on between pop and Parker sighhhhhhh
"i have the impression"
(or i have the feeling)
this sums up my post. I do not get the logical reason, with Tony Parker resumes, in playoffs, in matchup, against top point guards, to bring him off the bench...
Simple as that. I am with Pop concerning the Mavs, If they were to go further and face the Lakers, same off the Bench. If it was Utah : start.
But oh well, won't change my life.
Xap'
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2010, 10:26 AM
Why the hell can you not start any threads??:bang
Why dont you just PM one of the Admins and see if you can work something out.
Dumb question. How do I PM?
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 10:27 AM
"i have the impression"
(or i have the feeling)
this sums up my post. I do not get the logical reason, with Tony Parker resumes, in playoffs, in matchup, against top point guards, to bring him off the bench...
Simple as that. I am with Pop concerning the Mavs, If they were to go further and face the Lakers, same off the Bench. If it was Utah : start.
But oh well, won't change my life.
Xap'
I think Pop fears that Hill's confidence will go way down and he would not get the same production out of him bringing him off the bench. I am for starting Parker and Hill, but maybe that is why Im not coaching in the NBA...
in2deep
05-07-2010, 10:42 AM
agree he should be getting most minutes out of any spur tonight and start the game
itsamanuthree
05-07-2010, 10:51 AM
Well, I disagree with the suspicious Mavs fan who opened this thread and his sentence on Parker: "Time for him to stop being unselfish".
No thanks, he's doing pretty well these last weeks since he came back from the injury. He's collaborating much more, although ,of course, he will retain his I'm-the-best-everybody-look-at-me-I'm-so-pretty-and-clever personality, but by and large he's being less selfish. He's showing (faked or not) more support for his teammates, he's not whinning because he's comming off the bench, he's prizing manu a lot more and saying things like "this is a team sport" much more often. In fact, I think al least three times since the playoffs began. So, he's just great trying to be unselfish. And if he believes what he's certainly been told perhaps he ends up being so, who knows. Amazing things happen.
Now, regarding this series, the argument for playing Parker as a starter is that he will help contain nash. In that case, the only substitution reasonable would be Hill, cause manu does a hell of a better job defending than parker. On the attack, the only way for parker to "wear", more like wind up, nash, is with manu on the field, otherwise it's useless and dangerous to play two guards who proved not to excel in defense against the starting suns line-up. On the other hand, playing him as a starter will severely change the chemical pop's achieved in this last times. I don't think pop will change it. I wouldn't.
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 11:03 AM
Dumb question. How do I PM?
click on timvp, kori ellis, or slomo then send private message.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=8
type timvp
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2010, 11:07 AM
click on timvp, kori ellis, or slomo then send private message.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=8
type timvp
Tried that. Says I'm disabled from that feature.
Kori Ellis
05-07-2010, 11:10 AM
Slomo doesn't have anything to do with this kind of stuff. He is just for server issues, tech stuff.
Anyway... you will be able to start threads again in a few days. For now, just post in other threads - there's plenty to choose from.
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 11:10 AM
Tried that. Says I'm disabled from that feature.
I dont know what to tell you, maybe you got a slap on the wrist for repetitive thread starting....:lol
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 11:11 AM
Slomo doesn't have anything to do with this kind of stuff. He is just for server issues, tech stuff.
Anyway... you will be able to start threads again in a few days. For now, just post in other threads - there's plenty to choose from.
aaaaahhh Thanks I wasn't sure what his capabilites were....
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2010, 11:12 AM
Slomo doesn't have anything to do with this kind of stuff. He is just for server issues, tech stuff.
Anyway... you will be able to start threads again in a few days. For now, just post in other threads - there's plenty to choose from.
Ok, thanks. Just realize that you guys are going to miss out on many great sports opinions until then.
:flag:
Kori Ellis
05-07-2010, 11:14 AM
Ok, thanks. Just realize that you guys are going to miss out on many great sports opinions until then.
:flag:
:lmao
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2010, 11:16 AM
I dont know what to tell you, maybe you got a slap on the wrist for repetitive thread starting....:lol
Yeah...guess so. Thanks for the help though
LMAO that someone can post a file of a black kid with a bone in his hair, spining a basketball, eating watermelon, with a bucket of KFC hovering over his head and I get suspended for multiple threads about Matt Bonner.
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2010, 11:18 AM
:lmao
yeah, yeah, yeah...:ihit
sa_butta
05-07-2010, 11:20 AM
Yeah...guess so. Thanks for the help though
LMAO that someone can post a file of a black kid with a bone in his hair, spining a basketball, eating watermelon, with a bucket of KFC hovering over his head and I get suspended for multiple threads about Matt Bonner.
Maybe if you are going to have an opinoin about something it would be better to just post it one time rather than flooding the forum with the same thing over and over again. As far as opinions go, this forum is very leaniant, until you become anal about something...
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2010, 11:22 AM
Maybe if you are going to have an opinoin about something it would be better to just post it one time rather than flooding the forum with the same thing over and over again. As far as opinions go, this forum is very leaniant, until you become anal about something...
Yeah, I know I deserved it. I was just f'ing around yesterday. Trying not to think about being down 2-0. It's a great forum. Informative and funny as hell sometimes.
xapatan2
05-07-2010, 05:21 PM
Well, I disagree with the suspicious Mavs fan who opened this thread and his sentence on Parker: "Time for him to stop being unselfish".
No thanks, he's doing pretty well these last weeks since he came back from the injury. He's collaborating much more, although ,of course, he will retain his I'm-the-best-everybody-look-at-me-I'm-so-pretty-and-clever personality, but by and large he's being less selfish. He's showing (faked or not) more support for his teammates, he's not whinning because he's comming off the bench, he's prizing manu a lot more and saying things like "this is a team sport" much more often. In fact, I think al least three times since the playoffs began. So, he's just great trying to be unselfish. And if he believes what he's certainly been told perhaps he ends up being so, who knows. Amazing things happen.
Now, regarding this series, the argument for playing Parker as a starter is that he will help contain nash. In that case, the only substitution reasonable would be Hill, cause manu does a hell of a better job defending than parker. On the attack, the only way for parker to "wear", more like wind up, nash, is with manu on the field, otherwise it's useless and dangerous to play two guards who proved not to excel in defense against the starting suns line-up. On the other hand, playing him as a starter will severely change the chemical pop's achieved in this last times. I don't think pop will change it. I wouldn't.
Seems to me you just did not watch the precedent series the spurs had against the suns.
Could help to give your point of view.
:wakeup
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Obstructed_View
05-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Funny how some folks are so quick to suggest that Pop is driving down Mahinmi's value to make him a cheaper free agent, but don't seem to put it together that Pop can't say enough good things about George Hill, even though Hill can't keep Steve Nash in front of him.
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