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zocool16
05-08-2010, 10:17 PM
I know the Spurs aren't eliminated, but it's quite unlikely that they can come back from down 0-3 ... so, assuming they don't pull off the comeback, and neither does the Jazz ... who would you rather have in the Finals, the Lakers or Suns?
The Lakers have the Spurs' fans most respect-born hatred, I believe, just because of the history between the franchises (the best of the 2000's), but the Suns are really annoying this year ... I really can't decide who I'd rather see lose.
I guess it's win-win ... or lose-lose.
Fuck it, I don't want to see the Lakers in the Finals again. And I think whoever comes out of the East can beat Phoenix.
Laker-fan-in-SanAnto
05-08-2010, 10:26 PM
I wouldn't be surpise if every spurs fan here says the suns.
InRareForm
05-08-2010, 10:40 PM
Suns in 7.
Man In Black
05-08-2010, 10:49 PM
A B L.
Especially since Phil got there. If it's say Pat Riley or Bill Sharman or Jack Kent Cooke...then I'd be fairly okay with it.
baseline bum
05-08-2010, 10:51 PM
If the Spurs are eliminated, all I'd like to see in the WCF is an epic 7-game series like Bulls/Celtics, Spurs/Mavs, Spurs/Pistons, Lakers/Blazers, Lakers/Kings, Lakers/Pistons (88), Lakers/Celtics (84), etc.
Capt Bringdown
05-08-2010, 10:51 PM
Lakers because they're the best team.
Suns are a good jump shooting team that are playing above their heads. If they continue their hot streak, hat's off to them. But I've got a feeling that the Lakers power game will expose them and crack their confidence.
And the Lakers can do that because they're the better team, and not a one trick pony.
BTW, Lakers were #1 in 3 point FG defense (%) this year.
Lakers Advantage: Size
(http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_15035238)
Three Lakers are averaging 10 or more rebounds through the first two games of their second-round playoff series against the Jazz, the first time that's happened since the Trail Blazers did it back in 1985.
"Every team has one big guy," said Charles Barkley , a former NBA standout who now serves as an analyst for TNT. "But when you have two big guys who are athletic like (Pau) Gasol and (Andrew) Bynum , it becomes like a tip-toe volleyball game.
Gee, I wonder who the Lakers want. :birthday:
tmtcsc
05-08-2010, 11:23 PM
That's easy. Lakers.
The Lakers and Spurs own the West. Why change now ? The Lakers will crush the little Phoenix team. They have heart and good shooters but their hot shooting will die out and they will be dominated on the inside by Gasol, Bynum and Artest.
You see it happen every year. A team gets hot and then they run into a matchup problem and it all goes away.
Orlando vs Cleveland will be epic. I think its going to be LA against one of those teams and it will be a great series.
At least Phoenix can say they got by the big bad Spurs. --> At least the jerseys are the same. That should be enough for them to feel good about themselves.
The Spurs have some work to do to right the ship. We've got some nice pieces but not enough. Tim is still a good player but his body has broken down and he can't move like he used to. He needs alot of help.
RJ needs to go but I doubt anyone would take him.
Gone: Mahinmi, Mason, Bonner, Bogans and maybe Parker via trade. We need to move him for two mid range salary players. Bring in Splitter, a tall small forward and maybe another point guard.
Keep: Manu, Tim, Hill, Blair, Splitter and build around that if you can.
hunterxaz
05-08-2010, 11:26 PM
How do the Spurs own the west when they're about to get swept?
I wouldn't mind seeing the Suns win it all TBH
u4lakers14
05-08-2010, 11:42 PM
honestly i expect it to be a great wcf. the sun have been playing good, they have a toughness that the mavs and spurs lack, and they can score with the best of them (us)
should be a barn burner series
LakerHater
05-08-2010, 11:48 PM
It doesnt matter cuz Cleveland will beat'em both!
tmtcsc
05-09-2010, 12:20 AM
How do the Spurs own the west when they're about to get swept?
2009 Lakers - Champs (West) vs Orlando
2008 Celtics - Champs vs Lakers
2007 Spurs - Champs (West) vs Cleveland
2006 Heat - Champs vs Dallas
2005 Spurs - Champs (West) vs Pistons
2004 Pistons - Champs vs Lakers
2003 Spurs - Champs (West) vs Nets
2002 Lakers - Champs (West) vs Nets
2001 Lakers - Champs (West) vs Sixers
2000 Lakers - Champs (West) vs Pacers
1999 Spurs - Champs (West) vs Knicks
In the last 11 years, with the exception of 2006, either the Lakers or Spurs represented the West in the Finals. Why change now. That's pretty impressive.
Hey, if Phoenix wins, more power to them. I just like the Spurs / Lakers history.
Vash01
05-09-2010, 12:38 AM
It's time to change history. I did not expect the Suns to get past round 1, but they are playing great team basketball. If they win the series against the Spurs, the rest is all gravy. I don't see them beating the Lakers, but I did not see them leading the Spurs 3-0 either. The more people underestimate the Suns, the more motivated they are going to get. When Robin Lopez returns to the lineup, they are not going to be the 'little team' anymore. They will still have to contend with Gasol-Bynum twin towers and the rest of the Lakers team, but they have shown a lot of heart. May be they can overcome the Lakers. My pick: Suns 4-3 against Lakers.
Budkin
05-09-2010, 01:41 AM
We were out for revenge against the Mavs and beat them.
The Suns were out for revenge against the Spurs and beat us.
Though I'd like to think differently, reality tells me the Lakers will win in 6.
mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 01:58 AM
Dang everyone is overrating the Lakers. The Suns definitely have a shot here.
peskypesky
05-09-2010, 02:29 AM
Lakers in 5.
xellos88330
05-09-2010, 02:36 AM
If Phoenix is still unconscious from 3 pt land, I like Phoenix.
Size doesn't matter out on the perimeter much.
mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 02:39 AM
If Phoenix is still unconscious from 3 pt land, I like Phoenix.
Size doesn't matter out on the perimeter much.
Yeah Mehmet Okur was badly needed against the Lakers. He could take one of the bigs out of the paint. I think Frye is a key player against the Lakers as well.
m33p0
05-09-2010, 03:06 AM
suns
rascal
05-09-2010, 09:57 AM
I know the Spurs aren't eliminated, but it's quite unlikely that they can come back from down 0-3 ... so, assuming they don't pull off the comeback, and neither does the Jazz ... who would you rather have in the Finals, the Lakers or Suns?
The Lakers have the Spurs' fans most respect-born hatred, I believe, just because of the history between the franchises (the best of the 2000's), but the Suns are really annoying this year ... I really can't decide who I'd rather see lose.
I guess it's win-win ... or lose-lose.
Fuck it, I don't want to see the Lakers in the Finals again. And I think whoever comes out of the East can beat Phoenix.
The Suns. I have had enough of the lakers. They have beaten down the spurs too many times to support them.
I thought this was on who you want to win the west. The lakers will win the west although I would rather see Phoenix win.
Spursmania
05-09-2010, 10:27 AM
The Suns will crack and we all know that. Despite the fact that I want them to beat the Lakers it's just not happening.
Their getting their revenge after years of getting their ass kicked by us. I would like for them to finally succeed and get out of the West, but I just don't see it happening.
easy7
05-09-2010, 10:41 AM
That Nash to Amare pick and roll will not fly with the Lakers.
dbestpro
05-09-2010, 10:47 AM
Lakers in 4.
mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 04:33 PM
Suns in 6.
Suns are the last western conference team to knock the Lakers out of the playoffs, fwiw
Typical London Boy
05-09-2010, 04:53 PM
Suns. Much as I hate Nash when he's playing against us, he's a great player and deserves the success. I've no wish to see the Lakers and their bandwagon fans across the globe reign in yet another championship.
That said, I'd take Lakers over the Cavs. Fuck LeBron James.
rascal
05-09-2010, 06:25 PM
The Suns will crack and we all know that. Despite the fact that I want them to beat the Lakers it's just not happening.
Their getting their revenge after years of getting their ass kicked by us. I would like for them to finally succeed and get out of the West, but I just don't see it happening.
Agree.
spursfan1000
05-09-2010, 06:50 PM
Suns, I would like for them to win their first championship in this decade.
ffadicted
05-09-2010, 07:08 PM
Doesn't matter, Orlando has already won it all
DeadlyDynasty
05-09-2010, 07:13 PM
I'm kinda partial to the Lakers myself
ATXSPUR
05-09-2010, 07:47 PM
I don't care what happens from here on out as long as the Lakers or the Cavs don't win the finals.
weebo
05-09-2010, 08:00 PM
I would hope the Suns, but its hard to bet against the Lakers.
mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 08:20 PM
Doesn't matter, Orlando has already won it all
Orlando has the easiest schedule. It doesn't get any easier than the Bobcats and Hawks.
Lakers, Suns just don't match up
mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 08:26 PM
Lakers, Suns just don't match up
I just don't get this concept. How do they not match up? Even if their starters don't do well, their bench gets them right back in the game. Suns bench>Lakers bench.
GoSpurs21
05-09-2010, 10:00 PM
I really hope the suns beat the shit out of the lakers....I dislike the suns, hate their whiny fans and owner....but I hate the lakers....I don't ever want them to win...
Supergirl
05-09-2010, 10:04 PM
Lakers in 4. Maybe 5. Suns are playing on fumes, nothing they have done so far impresses me.
Supergirl
05-09-2010, 10:05 PM
oh, and whether its Lakers or Suns they will both get their asses handed to them by the CAVS.
mytespurs
05-09-2010, 10:18 PM
I just don't get this concept. How do they not match up? Even if their starters don't do well, their bench gets them right back in the game. Suns bench>Lakers bench.
Cause Lakers starters>Suns and lakers bench has been playing better so.......I would love to see a cinderella but I doubt we get it this year....
Spurologist
05-09-2010, 10:26 PM
Kobe might ask Stern for a quick series so he can rest for the finals
Manudona
05-09-2010, 10:28 PM
I hope the Suns wins it all, Nash deserves a ring
wijayas
05-09-2010, 10:28 PM
The Suns please!!!
I don't really care, but I'd like for Grant Hill and Steve Nash to get to the Finals.
superjames1992
05-09-2010, 10:30 PM
Lakers, preferably. I don't much like the Suns.
DubMcDub
05-09-2010, 10:32 PM
Not sure I care who wins, but it'll be Lakers in 5 or 6.
mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 10:36 PM
Cause Lakers starters>Suns and lakers bench has been playing better so.......I would love to see a cinderella but I doubt we get it this year....
Lakers bench is only Odom. Hardly anything compared to Dragic, Frye, Dudley, and Barbosa. The Jazz would've made it a more interesting series if they had Okur. Losing him pretty much made it impossible to beat the Lakers with no spacing from a big man.
KaiRMD1
05-09-2010, 11:13 PM
Lakers
mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 11:18 PM
If the Lakers beat the Suns, I think they'll win it all. But I don't know if some of you are just bitter, overrating the lakers, or whatever. I don't think you can beat the Lakers with a traditional lineup as their bigs will be hard to get around. But if you can make them guard the perimeter, the distance traveled to challenge a shot in the paint is much more difficult. And Duncan was not able to dominate the suns. That's a good sign for them going forward. This will be their ultimate test though. Anyways I'm tired of all the laker hype. They are good but not unbeatable.
CubanSucks
05-10-2010, 12:49 AM
Winning you're first ring is a bigger deal than winning you're 4th or 5th. The day nash and especially stoudemire hold up the trophy I'm going to shoot myself. For me it goes Magic > Cavs > Lakers > Celtics > Suns
Going to the Lakers. They have HCA and the best frontcourt of the West and have the confidence of being the defending champs.
I would much rather the Suns win the West but LA's advantages of scoring easier, high percentage buckets near the rim and securing the rebound is going to outweigh the Sun's depth and 3-point shooting advantages.
Suns need a healthy Lopez to really make things interesting.
However the East is winning it this year whether its ORL or Cleveland. It'd be crazy as hell if Boston made it out of there though...
Brox6
05-10-2010, 01:29 AM
I hope the Suns wins it all, Nash deserves a ring
VC deserves more....Magic all the Way..
SanAntonioSpurs23
05-10-2010, 01:34 AM
I wouldn't be surpise if every spurs fan here says the suns.
Wrong, I fucking hate the Suns! Go Lakers!!!
mavsfan1000
05-10-2010, 01:34 AM
lol Magic will lose. A team depending heavily on Carter is not likely going to win it all. That's all I have to say about. Cavs frontcourt will struggle big time against Magic or Lakers. The only team I think can challenge the Lakers is the suns due to their style of play.
Scary thing is that Orlando doesn't really have to rely much on VC. Nelson's playing great and they have a pretty good lineup of perimeter players that can get red-hot at anytime; better version of the Suns imo in many ways. I'm more worried about Dwight Howard's mental toughness (foul trouble and free throws) above all else if I was an Orlando fan.
mavsfan1000
05-10-2010, 01:48 AM
Scary thing is that Orlando doesn't really have to rely much on VC. Nelson's playing great and they have a pretty good lineup of perimeter players that can get red-hot at anytime; better version of the Suns imo in many ways. I'm more worried about Dwight Howard's mental toughness (foul trouble and free throws) above all else if I was an Orlando fan.
Dwight Howard is what makes that team. We've already seen that he struggles against the Lakers. I think this year will be similar to last year if the Magic play the Lakers again. Heartbreak. But they will still have to beat the Cavs. That's no gimme. I just think people are overrating the Magic as they've had it easy with teams that don't believe. (Bobcats and Hawks)
scottspurs
05-10-2010, 01:50 AM
I would rather the Suns win, but the Lakers will win.
milkyway21
05-10-2010, 02:41 AM
doesn't matter who wins the west Hope it will be the Lakers
But, I am hoping for the East to win the title this yr- Cavs especially.
NewJerSpur
05-10-2010, 02:43 AM
I'd rather see the Lakers.......................................lose in the Finals.
NFGIII
05-10-2010, 03:59 AM
I want the Suns but believe that the Lakers will win this - most likely in 6. Their power game versus the Suns 3 ball is going to be the difference. The Suns have shot the ball so well so far and if they continue it might turn out different. But the old saying about jump shots comes to mind. When all is said and done the low psot presence will be the difference.
DarrinS
05-10-2010, 08:10 AM
The Suns don't match up at all against the Lakers -- the Suns are just too small.
All the Suns can do is try to light them up with 3's and hope to outscore them.
Just my opinion.
WalterBenitez
05-10-2010, 09:37 AM
I wouldn't be surpise if every spurs fan here says the suns.
:wow why are you thinking that???
Go SUNS Go :D
Old School 44
05-10-2010, 10:59 AM
I think the Lakers, but I'd like the Suns.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Suns went into a cold spell behind the arc vs. the Lakers. Not because they have better perimeter defenders, but because with all their length inside, their perimeter defenders can take more chances and be more up on the shooters.
I have found that I don't mind the Suns so much now that Pornstache isn't there anymore screaming and whining on the sidelines, and I'd rather see the underdog win than the Lakers. No one expected the Suns to spank the Spurs like they did, so they may surprise everyone. Besides, The Lakers still have to get past the Jazz first. I know...details, details.
davidbowie
05-10-2010, 11:17 AM
beating the spurs is the suns championship. lakers in 5
Nesterofish
05-10-2010, 11:21 AM
small linuep dont work agenst teh lakers. spurs bigs cant move well on difense but lakers can. gorge hill gets lost on picken roll and rj not evin try, but lakers do ok. suns only avanige is fisher cant gard nash. lakers in 5 or 6.
Lakers could very well sweep unless Bynum's injury catches up with him. Without Lopez the Suns have no answer to LA's huge size advantage - they can pretty much play volleyball with the bigs they have.
LA's frontcourt dominance allows them to have high-percentage, close to the rim shots which will probably be more valuable than the Suns depth, perimeter shooting, and pick and roll advantages.
Not to mention LA's got HCA. As much as I hate Kobe Bryant there's no way anyone in the West had a chance against 'em.
beachwood
05-10-2010, 11:40 AM
Lakers all the way. After the Spurs, I gotta show love for my hometown.
But it's not going to be easy for either team who wins. It's going to be an epic series.
I wish the Suns would beat them, but I'm afraid some of you are right about the bigs dominating in the paint. It's a very similar situation with Utah.
sammy
05-10-2010, 12:09 PM
Lakers in 5! I never thought I would say it and go for the Fakers but the Suns and their fans at the game last night pissed me off!:bang They came with their brooms and acted with no class! Talking shit after the game where we got into with them and if anything turned me off so I will really feel great if these assholes are eliminated in the next round! I am really rooting for Orlando as I really like Dwight Howard and hope they win it all!:toast
sunsfan1968
05-10-2010, 01:22 PM
Thanks for the overall general consensus you guys are rooting for us.
You guys actually are a pretty classy team. I just hated you guys when you had Bowen and Horry who had no real talent or a complete game. Bowen was unreal defensively obviously but I respect Tim Manu and Tony because they're ballers.
Now Suns need to have Lopez back. He will be back we need him healthy. I say Suns in 6. We will continue to shoot well and Gentry knows how to use the rotations well and our bench is way better than theirs. Frye for 3 over and over again is what you'll hear.
Good luck this offseason.
Lakers have too many bigs for Suns to handle. They only had to worry about Duncan in the last series. And Lakers can put Odom on Frye.
spurtech09
05-10-2010, 03:01 PM
Looks like the lakers are going to repeat.....
mavsfan1000
05-10-2010, 04:00 PM
Lakers have too many bigs for Suns to handle. They only had to worry about Duncan in the last series. And Lakers can put Odom on Frye.
Who is going to guard Amare or Nash? Not a good matchup for Artest to have to defend out of position to guard the Sun's best offensive players. Both teams have advantages. And Duncan did better against the Mavs. That shows the suns can guard bigs.
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