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BUMP
05-09-2010, 09:39 PM
I was hoping i'd get to see Dallas matchup vs LA but this is definitely an intriguing series.

Phoenix beat LA two years in a row before they got Gasol but it might not mean anything now. I think Phx will give them problems on the PnR, but they ultimately will have no answer inside for the Twin Towers.

The Suns have been playing well as of late but LA is a different kind of animal then SA. I think every game will be close due to PHX's shooting ability but ultimately....

Lakers in 6

Banzai
05-09-2010, 09:40 PM
should be a good series...of course the Lakers need to get out of Utah first.

Findog
05-09-2010, 09:42 PM
On paper the Suns don't seem to match up well with the size of the LA frontline, especially without having another big to eat up minutes in Lopez. But they are playing really well right now, so we'll see...Should be a great series.

TheMACHINE
05-09-2010, 09:52 PM
According to everyone in Spurstalk..... Dallas, Denver and San Antonio we're the threats to the Lakers all year....please dont try to convince us that the Suns are now. lol

Giuseppe
05-09-2010, 09:57 PM
According to everyone in Spurstalk..... Dallas, Denver and San Antonio we're the threats to the Lakers all year....please dont try to convince us that the Suns are now. lol

Testify, MACHINE, testify!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DJ Mbenga
05-09-2010, 10:00 PM
the 3 will be dangerous. but then again the lakers are the best at defending it.

tlongII
05-09-2010, 10:04 PM
Suns in 5.

nevitt_&_smrek
05-09-2010, 10:04 PM
Congrats to the Suns and their fans for reaching the WCF. Good job taking care of business tonight, finally beating your nemesis. We'll be seeing you guys shortly, for what should be a very fun series.

Giuseppe
05-09-2010, 10:10 PM
Congrats to the Suns and their fans for reaching the WCF. Good job taking care of business tonight, finally beating your nemesis. We'll be seeing you guys shortly, for what should be a very fun series.

Ya idiot.

pauls931
05-09-2010, 10:11 PM
Not gonna happen. Back when Pho could beat LA there was not Gasol and Bynum clogging up the middle. LA is too big. Back then you could let Kobe go nutz and still beat them. No longer the case, he doesn't even have to go nuts now that Gasol can pick up the slack.

Andrew Bynum
05-09-2010, 10:12 PM
Suns in 5.

:lmao

Look at the Lakers getting blown out in Salt Lake City!!!!

Giuseppe
05-09-2010, 10:12 PM
So, Paul, your capitulating to O & 42?

Banzai
05-09-2010, 10:15 PM
Not gonna happen. Back when Pho could beat LA there was not Gasol and Bynum clogging up the middle. LA is too big. Back then you could let Kobe go nutz and still beat them. No longer the case, he doesn't even have to go nuts now that Gasol can pick up the slack.
Should be a hard fought series.

Giuseppe
05-09-2010, 10:18 PM
Don't get all delicate on us now, Banzai.

Roddy Beaubois
05-09-2010, 10:18 PM
suns in 3

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 10:20 PM
Odom will get alot more minutes than Bynum IMO. Also, Suns are a little longer than the Jazz.

Lakers have a big edge in the frontcourt, but the Suns have a big edge in the perimeter.

Question will be if the Suns can slow down Gasol and if the Lakers can defend the Suns perimeter game.

pauls931
05-09-2010, 10:21 PM
This is going to suck, Spurs fans are tolerable, Laker fans less than any other team...

Anyway, the suns need to get real creative with rotations and it looks like Lopez is not an option. Barkley is right, they need to run and gun, but Perhaps spread the floor out an try to force the bigs on LA to rotate maybe opening up the long ball. Amare is going to have a rough time this series.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-09-2010, 10:21 PM
Yup, Lakers fans act like we've been talking shit all year.

Giuseppe
05-09-2010, 10:23 PM
This is going to suck, Spurs fans are tolerable, Laker fans less than any other team...

That's just your ESPN upbringing, Paul. We're no more a fuck than any other fandom.

Now, Paul, are you, or, are you not stipulating to O & 42?

lurker
05-09-2010, 10:25 PM
I'm just hoping the games won't all be blowouts.

Roddy Beaubois
05-09-2010, 10:26 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/10msf7s.gif

lol vewy nice gif

An Unbiased Fan
05-09-2010, 10:26 PM
Lakers will likely sweep.

DDS4
05-09-2010, 10:26 PM
It'll be interesting. Twin towers/best closer vs. small ball/arguably the hottest team since the all-star break.

da_suns_fan
05-09-2010, 10:29 PM
Suns need Robin Lopez back. Jarron Collins aint gonna cut it.

rayjayjohnson
05-09-2010, 10:29 PM
suns in 7

Ghazi
05-09-2010, 10:30 PM
hhmm. Gasol is better than Amare and Kobe is better than Nash. In a star driven league that's a big deal.

I expect the Lakers frontline to have a big series and the Phoenix 3 ball to be neutralized/contained whereas against the Spurs they shot 44.5%. I don't expect 5 rebound ecstasy to imprint this series like he's suppose to, and will be outplayed by Gasol. Phoenix does not have a player capable of guarding Kobe. Nash should have a good series but will he get enough helP??

As well as the SUns have played, I honestly see the Lakers winning in 5 games.

z0sa
05-09-2010, 10:30 PM
LA in 6.

pauls931
05-09-2010, 10:30 PM
Suns need Robin Lopez back. Jarron Collins aint gonna cut it.

Unless he'd good to go right now and can start practicing immediately, I'll say no. BTW did jarron even play tonight? I missed the first quarter. That boy sucks.

da_suns_fan
05-09-2010, 10:33 PM
Unless he'd good to go right now and can start practicing immediately, I'll say no. BTW did jarron even play tonight? I missed the first quarter. That boy sucks.

Yeah, he played his obligatory six minutes and played like garbage.

Theres a WEEK off before the WCF, so maybe Lopez can make it back.

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 10:42 PM
Gasol won't be able to guard to Amare. Neither can Bynum. Odom won't be able since he has to stay on the perimeter and defend Frye. Also, Fisher or Farmar are no match Nash/Dragic and Hill, Dudley, and Richardson are better than any other Lakers wing except Kobe. Suns have an advantage against the Lakers defense.

The problem with the Suns will be defending the Lakers, especially Gasol. Amare may be able to slow them down, but it won't be easy. I don't think Bynum will be a factor this series. He's injured and the Lakers will use Odom alot more. Kobe will get his regardless, but the Suns need to make him work for it.

Ghazi
05-09-2010, 10:43 PM
Hill/Dudley better than Artest?

:lmao Louisiana

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 10:46 PM
Hill/Dudley better than Artest?

:lmao Louisiana

Of course they are. Artest is garbage.

Besides your from Ohio. :lol

mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 10:48 PM
Frye will expose the Lakers bigs with his outside shot. Bynum hasn't done shit in the playoffs from what I've seen. He looks a step slow. Suns should be able to run against the Lakers. Jazz are a step slower than the suns. They don't have as good of spacing with their bigs not being able to hit outside. Just not as good of an offense as the suns have and I actually think Suns play better defense than the Jazz. Grant Hill's defense on Kobe could be huge imo.

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 10:50 PM
Suns are longer than the Jazz as well. Jazz are going with two guys who are 6'7 in their frontcourt.

Killakobe81
05-09-2010, 11:20 PM
LOL ..."hope springs eternal" ...
NBA forum juumping on the latest "this team has what it takes to give the Lakers problems" bandwagon

SomeCallMeTim
05-09-2010, 11:21 PM
Gasol won't be able to guard to Amare. Neither can Bynum.

Both have in the past and Bynum has done especially well.


Odom won't be able since he has to stay on the perimeter and defend Frye. Also, Fisher or Farmar are no match Nash/Dragic and Hill, Dudley, and Richardson are better than any other Lakers wing except Kobe. Suns have an advantage against the Lakers defense.

Nash/Dragic is of course a huge advantage for Phx, but we'll see about how the wings shake out. Artest/Kobe are as good a 2/3 combo defending wings as there is in the league.


The problem with the Suns will be defending the Lakers, especially Gasol. Amare may be able to slow them down, but it won't be easy. I don't think Bynum will be a factor this series. He's injured and the Lakers will use Odom alot more. Kobe will get his regardless, but the Suns need to make him work for it.

Bynum will be a factor in this series. The Suns are historically a great matchup for him.

Will be quite a series, an elite offense vs. and elite defense.

HarlemHeat37
05-09-2010, 11:32 PM
Should we expect a lot of Laker fans in Phoenix?..

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 11:33 PM
Bynum will be a factor in this series. The Suns are historically a great matchup for him.

Will be quite a series, an elite offense vs. and elite defense.

Bynum should be dominating against the Jazz since they have two midgets (to put it nicely) in the frontcourt. He did well in Game 2. Question will be how much will he and Gasol be on the floor together. I don't think Bynum can guard Amare on the p-n-r with a bum knee. Plus, how often will the Lakers go to him on offense if he's on the floor with Gasol and Kobe.

I still have doubts about the Suns winning in LA. If Lopez was healthy, maybe, but still would be an uphill battle.

I can't believe Artest is 260 lbs. That's huge.

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 11:34 PM
Should we expect a lot of Laker fans in Phoenix?..

Yes. They're everywhere. Just like Yankees fans, Cowboy fans, Duke fans, etc.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-09-2010, 11:37 PM
Should we expect a lot of Laker fans in Phoenix?..


Yeah, all the Mexicants who live in Phoenix have been putting a little bit of their welfare checks in savings all season in the event of a Suns vs. Lakers series. You can expect to see plenty of people at the game who smell like tacos wearing a "15 rings, faggot" shirt they bought when they heard the Lakers were in the playoffs and playing the Suns.

mavsfan1000
05-09-2010, 11:37 PM
Bynum should be dominating against the Jazz since they have two midgets (to put it nicely) in the frontcourt. He did well in Game 2. Question will be how much will he and Gasol be on the floor together. I don't think Bynum can guard Amare on the p-n-r with a bum knee. Plus, how often will the Lakers go to him on offense if he's on the floor with Gasol and Kobe.

I still have doubts about the Suns winning in LA. If Lopez was healthy, maybe, but still would be an uphill battle.

I can't believe Artest is 260 lbs. That's huge.
Mavs have a big lineup as well. It didn't help at all because they couldn't get back against the spurs a lot of the time and their offense was stagnant. The suns will probably double the post anyways so it will be up to how well Artest hits those 3's. It seems the suns are a little sharper when it comes to scramble defense after a double team than the Jazz.

TheMACHINE
05-09-2010, 11:43 PM
From:
Smush Parker
Kobe Bryant
Luke Walton
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown

Brian Cook
Shamond Williams
Chris Mihm

To:
Derek Fisher
Kobe Bryant
Ron Artest
Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum

Lamar Odom
Jordan Farmar
Shanon Brown

This series is gonna be easy.

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 11:45 PM
From:
Smush Parker
Kobe Bryant
Luke Walton
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown

Brian Cook
Shamond Williams
Chris Mihm

To:
Derek Fisher
Kobe Bryant
Ron Artest
Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum

Lamar Odom
Jordan Farmar
Shanon Brown

This series is gonna be easy.

Bold - garbage

Trainwreck2100
05-09-2010, 11:45 PM
Yeah, all the Mexicants who live in Phoenix have been putting a little bit of their welfare checks in savings all season in the event of a Suns vs. Lakers series. You can expect to see plenty of people at the game who smell like tacos wearing a "15 rings, faggot" shirt they bought when they heard the Lakers were in the playoffs and playing the Suns.

nigga please they ain't got no savings accounts.

Trainwreck2100
05-09-2010, 11:46 PM
Bold - garbage

lol letshannondunk.com

TheMACHINE
05-09-2010, 11:56 PM
Bold - garbage

awww so you rather have smush, luke, brian cook and shamond willaims. :p:

Pelicans78
05-09-2010, 11:59 PM
awww so you rather have smush, luke, brian cook and shamond willaims. :p:

No just a developed Bynum and Gasol. Kobe's not too bad either.

Honestly, the Lakers have alot of role players surrounding 4 excellent players, three who are All-Stars (Bynum is better than Kaman). Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and an underrated Odom make the Lakers elite. The rest of the guys are good at their roles, but not as good as in years past. That's why Gasol and Kobe are gonna have to carry the load more than usual. Still betting on them getting to the Finals.

HarlemHeat37
05-10-2010, 12:01 AM
The Lakers have certainly built a very nice team around Pau, no doubt about that..

Ghazi
05-10-2010, 12:02 AM
The Lakers have certainly built a very nice team around Pau, no doubt about that..

:lol

TheMACHINE
05-10-2010, 12:02 AM
the lakers have certainly built a very nice team around fisher, no doubt about that..

fify

Giuseppe
05-10-2010, 01:38 AM
^Fisher has been burying one motherfucker after another since last June. Nelson went into the ground first, the Jazz the latest. "Digger" Fisher, one grave diggin' motherfucker.

Brigham Young
05-10-2010, 02:41 AM
No just a developed Bynum and Gasol. Kobe's not too bad either.

Honestly, the Lakers have alot of role players surrounding 4 excellent players, three who are All-Stars (Bynum is better than Kaman). Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and an underrated Odom make the Lakers elite. The rest of the guys are good at their roles, but not as good as in years past. That's why Gasol and Kobe are gonna have to carry the load more than usual. Still betting on them getting to the Finals.

And what past would that be? Shaq/Kobe teams were a definition of 2 man teams. Everyone else, save for Horry on occasion, were garbage. Last year same thing. The fact is in today's NBA a team with "4 excellent players" is about as good as it gets. This ain't the 80's anymore.

Giuseppe
05-10-2010, 02:55 AM
Harper, Rice, Shaw, A.C. Green, Fox were role players and winners.

namlook
05-10-2010, 03:22 AM
suns in 7

Lakers losing a game 7 on their home floor? That's definitely not happening.

OKC, Utah and Phoenix were the matchups the Lakers wanted because they don't have the players to handle the Lakers front line.

mojorizen7
05-10-2010, 06:06 AM
Gasol won't be able to guard to Amare. Neither can Bynum. Odom won't be able since he has to stay on the perimeter and defend Frye. Also, Fisher or Farmar are no match Nash/Dragic and Hill, Dudley, and Richardson are better than any other Lakers wing except Kobe. Suns have an advantage against the Lakers defense.

The problem with the Suns will be defending the Lakers, especially Gasol. Amare may be able to slow them down, but it won't be easy. I don't think Bynum will be a factor this series. He's injured and the Lakers will use Odom alot more. Kobe will get his regardless, but the Suns need to make him work for it.

Solid take.
I don't see any scenario where PJ doesn't put Artest on JRich and ask him to shut him down. JRich has been the offensive X-factor for us all season....Amare will have to have a MONSTER series in terms of points,rebounds,switch defense, transition defense etc...

Frye is a different player @ home than away with his perimeter shooting, but his offense will be a big factor too in terms of disrupting PJ's front court rotations and allowing the SUNS to capitalize on some rebounding matchups with the Lakers possibly going small at times.

This will be a scrappy series. :hat

Oh, and PJ won't so easily get into Gentry's head with his condescending mind game tactics as he did with D'antoni's weak skull.

wanggi
05-10-2010, 06:55 AM
Suns sweep Lakers, 4-0. Or Suns eliminate Lakers, 4-1.

Don't say it's impossible.

Anything can happen when the Suns play well.

the way they're beating the Spurs can happen again even if the Lakers have twin tower.

picc84
05-10-2010, 08:47 AM
Artest on Jrich
Kobe on Hill
Bynum/Gasol on Amare
Nobody on Frye. He's just the type of weak minded scrub we love to leave open so he can shit the bed with bricks. Just look at his soft ass face, I wouldnt be surprised if Ron went into the Phx lockeroom at halftime and robbed him, just because.
Fisher on Nash, since for whatever reason Fish plays like a prime Steph Marbury when matched up with one-eyed Sloth

Giuseppe
05-10-2010, 09:32 AM
Oh, and PJ won't so easily get into Gentry's head with his condescending mind game tactics as he did with D'antoni's weak skull.

I'm sure they're in line downtown telling that to Gentry right now>>>

- "He's a delusional old man, Al, don't pay him any never mind."

- "He wore that X cap with Red fresh in his crypt, Al, don't pay him any never mind."

- "We're the Spuns, Al, don't pay him any never mind."

- "My name is Paul, I think we're gonna lose, Al. But, don't pay me any never mind."

- "My name is Duncan, I hopped on board when the goin' got good. I'm young, pimpled faced, and queer, Al."

jag
05-10-2010, 09:54 AM
Nobody on Frye. He's just the type of weak minded scrub we love to leave open so he can shit the bed with bricks. Just look at his soft ass face, I wouldnt be surprised if Ron went into the Phx lockeroom at halftime and robbed him, just because.


:lmao

Giuseppe
05-10-2010, 09:55 AM
Picc with an instant classic!!!

Allanon
05-10-2010, 10:04 AM
A big THANKYOU to the Spurs, Jazz and Suns for taking out the Blazers, Mavs and Nuggets.

Lakers couldn't have asked for a better matchup (outside of the Jazz).

Suns are one of the best 3 point shooting teams. Lakers are one of the best 3 point defensive teams.

Suns are weak on the interior, Lakers score the most points in the paint.

Steve Nash is older than Derek Fisher

Raja Bell is long gone

Ashy Larry
05-10-2010, 10:19 AM
Key is Suns have to go into Staples and get at least one. They've lost there by 19 and 20 points so far. Lakers can be one of the dumbest teams in the league at times. Clearly they have a mismatch in the paint and will have Shannon Brown, Fisher, Bean, et al chuck up threes without going inside first.

Pound the ball inside to Gasol and Bynum, and Odom should own whomever is on him. Don't leave the shooters, don't double, let Amar'e get his 25 and the Lakers will roll. As soon as they double and the ball is moving faster than their rotations, they'll be in trouble. If they play smart, it should take no more than five games. But they're not always smart.

Giuseppe
05-10-2010, 10:23 AM
Key is Suns have to go into Staples and get at least one. They've lost there by 19 and 20 points so far. Lakers can be one of the dumbest teams in the league at times. Clearly they have a mismatch in the paint and will have Shannon Brown, Fisher, Bean, et al chuck up threes without going inside first.

Pound the ball inside to Gasol and Bynum, and Odom should own whomever is on him. Don't leave the shooters, don't double, let Amar'e get his 25 and the Lakers will roll. As soon as they double and the ball is moving faster than their rotations, they'll be in trouble. If they play smart, it should take no more than five games. But they're not always smart.

Food for thought.

Allanon
05-10-2010, 10:46 AM
As Cul would say... "like shaved pussy".:lol

:lmao Cul had some great material

picc84
05-10-2010, 10:49 AM
Kobe will get Jrich in foul trouble if he takes him to the post. When that happens, I want Barbosa checking into the game, we've got 2 years worth of asswhooping to pay back to that little fucker. Look for DFish to give him a Scola Special as he runs downcourt with his little unassuming "I just Leandrinho, I like-a to play the basketball" look on his cro-magnon face.

Sasha should be back this series as well. Its always nice to have him piss Nash off a little even if he doesnt shoot anything.

wanggi
05-10-2010, 10:58 AM
If the Suns play their best, they may win game 1.

Thanks pal.:toast

da_suns_fan
05-10-2010, 10:58 AM
Lakers losing a game 7 on their home floor? That's definitely not happening.

OKC, Utah and Phoenix were the matchups the Lakers wanted because they don't have the players to handle the Lakers front line.

Ill take Amare and Lopez versus Gasol and Bynum.

Not too worried there.

That is, if Lopez makes it back. Thank God for the week off.

da_suns_fan
05-10-2010, 11:06 AM
Key is Suns have to go into Staples and get at least one. They've lost there by 19 and 20 points so far.

True. But the first game was when the Suns were playing their fourth in five nights and the Lakers were coming off a four day break.

The second game was almost exactly the same. Suns on the second of back to back, Lakers coming off a break.

Im not looking at those two games for how this series will pan out.

Likewise, the Suns now like to start Robin Lopez who can hold his own against Bynum much better than Frye can. Frye will be expected to come off the bench and drill threes versus keep Bynum out of the lane.

The Suns made a mistake early in the season of having Richardson guard Kobe. I doubt that will happen this series. Kobe is gonna see a lot of Hill and Dudley and I expect them to make him work A LOT.

Amare never has problems against Gasol. Ive seen him drop 40+ against Gasol on MLK a few years back without breaking a sweat. Gasol doesnt have the length (LONG ARMS) of Duncan or Rasheed Wallace (the type of guys who give Amare trouble). Amare will dunk it on his head every time.

Fisher usually does a good job against the pick and roll and hes been shooting better lately. Suns will definitely have to keep an eye on him.

Artest is hit and miss on offense. If the Lakers want to run their offense by going into Artest in the post, Suns will take it. Not sure who he'll be guarding on defense. Could be Hill or Richardson.

Odom is a great basketball player and rebounds extremely well. Hopefull Amare and Lou will keep him off the offensive boards. That will be a key.

Biggest X-Factor: Suns Centers. Lopez has to come back. Collins and Frye will get demolished by Bynum. Second is Channing Frye's 3pt shooting. If hes on, the Suns are basically unbeatable.

namlook
05-10-2010, 11:08 AM
Yeah, all the Mexicants who live in Phoenix have been putting a little bit of their welfare checks in savings all season in the event of a Suns vs. Lakers series. You can expect to see plenty of people at the game who smell like tacos wearing a "15 rings, faggot" shirt they bought when they heard the Lakers were in the playoffs and playing the Suns.

^^^Racist a-hole. IGNORE.

da_suns_fan
05-10-2010, 11:11 AM
Gotdamn you are stupid.

Great. Any real Laker fan want to give me their take?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-10-2010, 11:11 AM
Here's what will need to happen for Phoenix to win:

Their bench will need to dominate LA's bench
Lopez needs to come back healthy
Dudley/Hill will need to do a good job on Kobe with no help from teammates
Amare is going to need to score on post isos efficiently, LA defends pick and rolls better than anyone in the league
When LA gameplans to stop Nash from being a distributor, he needs to score
Everyone needs to hit their threes so LA can't hone in on Amare down low

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-10-2010, 11:12 AM
^^^Racist a-hole. IGNORE.


:lmao I thought I was on your ignore list? Cubby ain't the only one pissing people off around here I guess.

namlook
05-10-2010, 11:13 AM
Gotdamn you are stupid.

You're not kidding. Gasol doesn't have the length of Duncan? :lmao

That's pure ignorance. Gasol is only a legit 7'1".

da_suns_fan
05-10-2010, 11:13 AM
Here's what will need to happen for Phoenix to win:

Their bench will need to dominate LA's bench
Lopez needs to come back healthy
Dudley/Hill will need to do a good job on Kobe with no help from teammates
Amare is going to need to score on post isos efficiently, LA defends pick and rolls better than anyone in the league
When LA gameplans to stop Nash from being a distributor, he needs to score
Everyone needs to hit their threes so LA can't hone in on Amare down low

I'd agree with all of that.

da_suns_fan
05-10-2010, 11:14 AM
You're not kidding. Gasol doesn't have the length of Duncan? :lmao

That's pure ignorance. Gasol is only a legit 7'1".

Its Duncans "ape-like" arms that give Amare the problems. Gasol doesnt have the freakishly long wingspan.

I went to Spurs/Suns and sat lower section back in April. Duncan was arguing a call via "showing his palms" and I said "God damn...look how freaking long his arms are".

Duncan is seven foot but plays like hes 8ft. Hes the best in the league at basically tipping it to himself around the basket.

Gasol? Meh. Amare's worst game against the Lakers this year was the game Gasol didnt play.

Maybe Amare will send a limo to make sure Gasol gets to the game on time.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-10-2010, 11:15 AM
DSF, Gasol is pretty long. I don't think Gasol has the combination of length and athleticism to guard Amare, but unfortunately Bynum does.

Allanon
05-10-2010, 11:15 AM
Pau's wingspan 7'5
Duncan's wingspan 7'3

Duncan's arms are very long for a 6'10 guy but still shorter compared to an average 7 footer like Pau.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-10-2010, 11:18 AM
Also I forgot to mention, Phoenix will need to limit LA's offensive rebounding which is no easy task. If they let Kobe get in the paint and draw help defender, Gasol and Bynum will get to play volleyball with his missed shots.

picc84
05-10-2010, 11:19 AM
Duncans defense is complete shit compared to Gasol's these days. Sounds crazy, but its true. Every one of LA's frontcourt 3 (Pau/Odom/Drew) play better D than Duncan.

da_suns_fan
05-10-2010, 11:23 AM
Pau's wingspan 7'5
Duncan's wingspan 7'3

Seriously? You have link?

namlook
05-10-2010, 11:23 AM
:lmao I thought I was on your ignore list? Cubby ain't the only one pissing people off around here I guess.

You are. I am using a different computer today and forgot to log in before reading the posts today. Yeah, your POS posts are a good reminder for me to log in first.

Allanon
05-10-2010, 11:35 AM
Seriously? You have link?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1024101/index.htm

The Grizzlies also got center Lorenzen Wright (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Lorenzen_Wright/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) and guard Brevin Knight (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Brevin_Knight/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) in the deal, but it is upon the progress of Gasol that the trade will ultimately be judged. "In Pau we saw a player with extraordinary length [Gasol's wingspan is 7'5"] and a real basketball presence," says Grizzlies general manager Billy Knight (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Billy_Knight/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm). "We really think he can be one of the young pillars of our team."

j.dizzle
05-10-2010, 11:58 AM
LOL Gasol..An Athletic 7 foot 5 wingspan
LOL Bynum..A legit center 7 foot 3 wingspan
LOL Odom..An athletic 7 foot 4 wingspan
LOL Lots of wingspan

TheMACHINE
05-10-2010, 12:37 PM
Gasol + Artest - Raja Bell - Brian Cook = Lakers in the Finals

lefty
05-10-2010, 01:18 PM
Lakers in 7

Giuseppe
05-10-2010, 01:19 PM
Gasol + Artest - Smush Parker - Raja Bell - Brian Cook = Lakers in the Finals

Fixed.

wanggi
05-10-2010, 10:56 PM
Lakers are just a mediocre good team without Gasol. They know it.

Lakers - Gasol = Jazz
Jazz + Gasol > Lakers
mediocre team + Gasol = Lakers - Gasol
Good team + Gasol > Lakers
Suns > Lakers - Gasol (Suns can sweep Lakers if Lakers minus Gasol)
Spurs, Mavs,Thunders > Lakers- Gasol
Nets < Lakers - Gasol

HarlemHeat37
05-10-2010, 11:00 PM
Well, ya, obviously..if you take the best player off any team, they're going to be a lot worse..

wanggi
05-10-2010, 11:16 PM
Well, ya, obviously..if you take the best player off any team, they're going to be a lot worse..

I thought you would say Kobe's the best player on Lakers team.

Yer right anyway.

Why I selected Gasol over Kobe? Cuz Kobe is MSP(Most Selfish Player) in

the league.:toast

Spurologist
05-10-2010, 11:30 PM
:lmao

Fisher just got owned

wanggi
05-10-2010, 11:33 PM
What I mean is they are lucky having Gasol. Otherwise, they might get eliminated in 2nd round in the playoffs even if they got Kobe.

Allanon
05-10-2010, 11:40 PM
Jordan didn't win anything until he was lucky enough to get Pippen.

Steve Nash is lucky to have Amare or they might not have made it past the 1st round.

1 star never won anything by himself.

HarlemHeat37
05-10-2010, 11:48 PM
I agree..

Pau wouldn't be leading his team right now without Kobe supporting, it's tough to win without a legit #2..

Allanon
05-10-2010, 11:51 PM
:lol

Pelicans78
05-10-2010, 11:51 PM
Jordan didn't win anything until he was lucky enough to get Pippen.

Steve Nash is lucky to have Amare or they might not have made it past the 1st round.

1 star never won anything by himself.

Nash did get to the WCFs without Amare in 2006.

wanggi
05-11-2010, 01:19 AM
Jordan didn't win anything until he was lucky enough to get Pippen.

Steve Nash is lucky to have Amare or they might not have made it past the 1st round.

1 star never won anything by himself.

Ya Laker foolish fans just don't get it.

There are two best Lakers - Pau and Kobe on the team.

Lakers can get the title without Kobe but Lakers can't get the title

without Pau.

Now you get it?:nope

namlook
05-11-2010, 01:19 AM
Nash did get to the WCFs without Amare in 2006.

Nash has also played more NBA playoffs games than any other player in NBA history without championship. Nash is an entertaining player but you don't win championships playing the Nash style of basketball.

milkshakeballa
05-11-2010, 01:25 AM
Ill take Amare and Lopez versus Gasol and Bynum.

Not too worried there.

That is, if Lopez makes it back. Thank God for the week off.


:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

milkshakeballa
05-11-2010, 01:31 AM
Bynum has HISTORICALLY shut Amare down and down VERY well on him in single coverage. IMO thats going to be the key.

If Bynum can somewhat contain Amare (no easy task the way he is playing) but at least letting the Lakers play single coverage the majority of the time...I think the series goes 5. If Phoenix gets LA real spread out and scrambling on defense...it could go 6.

Artest on JRich is a good matchup for Ron.

Lopez first game back in how long?

Interested in seeing who guards Pau? If its Amare his offensive game MIGHT really struggle with Pau shitting on him on the other end...


IMO - Lakers in 5

Good tune up for Orlando who likes to spread you out and launch threes. Cavs are a totally different animal...

mojorizen7
05-11-2010, 03:50 AM
Bynum cant guard Amare singled up :lol.
If you're gonna throw bigs at AMare and slow him down thats fine....but this is where tissue soft Channing Frye can KILL you on the perimeter.

Our biggest most tangible advantage in this series is our bench.....its simply better than yours.
Your biggest advantage(as always) is simply having one of the best one-on-one scorers of all time on your side,size up front and a HC who produces titles.

I expect PJ will throw Artest @ JRich and render him useless offensively,putting the pressure on Nash to score AND create offense for others.....not good.

DoK summed up the SUNS keys nicely earlier in the thread:
Nash/Amare will have to score alot,Lopez will have to be a factor,our bench will have to continue what they've been doing and we'll have to become more active again on the offensive glass.

I'm not concerned about playing in the Staples center, dealing with PJ's bullshit or Kobe's charity FT's.

SUNS will play harder, more aggressively than LA and will be rewarded :greedy

Ghazi
05-11-2010, 03:52 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about Glassnum. The Suns lack of interior presence only hurts them guarding Gasol... Bynum's just a stiff who may get a few garbage points here and there off of the attention Gasol/Kobe draw, but nothing more.

Amare < Gasol
crippled Lopez = Bynum

21_Blessings
05-11-2010, 03:57 AM
Bynum cant guard Amare singled up :lol.


Are you really that dumb? (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200911120LAL.html)

mojorizen7
05-11-2010, 03:59 AM
Are you really that dumb? (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200911120LAL.html)

Stick that '09 box score under your pillow and sleep tight bro. :toast

sendman
05-11-2010, 04:28 AM
LOL Gasol..An Athletic 7 foot 5 wingspan
LOL Bynum..A legit center 7 foot 3 wingspan
LOL Odom..An athletic 7 foot 4 wingspan
LOL Lots of wingspan
And they'll need it, since they all will be jumping off the roof after this series.:downspin:

namlook
05-11-2010, 05:05 AM
Stick that '09 box score under your pillow and sleep tight bro. :toast

Stick the fact that Steve Nash has the most playoffs games without a championship under your pillow tonight bro. :toast

benefactor
05-11-2010, 05:23 AM
Just like the Spurs/Suns series, there are match up issues everywhere...except now the shoe is on the other foot. The Suns will basically need to play perfect basketball to even make it interesting.

When it's over, the Suns will go out of the post season saying the same thing the Spurs said..."We knocked off our arch nemesis, but we got finished off pretty quick after that."

Lakers in 5.

Andrew Bynum
05-11-2010, 05:26 AM
Suns have been a great story but they ain't beating LA. No way can I see it. If I show up in the slightest bit they'll get swept, they won't get swept.