Now 2 next yr!?!

[jermaine]

Fuck the small talk about wouldve couldve shouldve! We didn't so who aint coming back next year? Can we get rid of Jefferson? Is Splintter coming? What about Nicolus Batum, can't he be had or Scola? 2010 is over so let's not talk about it.

[DMX7]

Jefferson can only get rid of himself. Splitter is not coming. Batum, WTF?

[Buddy Holly]

We need to to package Jefferson with Tony because that's probably the only way to unload his contract. Jefferson on this team is beyond useless.

My idea, TP/Dick for Bosh/Turk.

[Buddy Holly]

Splitter is not coming.

It's probably a 75% certainty he is.

[toki9]

i think the Jefferson trade really did this team in, especially chemistry wise...i'm still puzzled by that...

And I think Mason was probably a silent cancer...

[ThePop]

Turk? No thanks

[ABrooks111]

My idea, TP/Dick for Bosh/Turk.

Turk has the worst contract in basketball.

[westcoast_spurfan]

we can't get rid of parker, his awareness and pg ability will always be better than hill...hill could work as our barbosa

but honestly the spurs only have had success through the draft...they don't have a single big time player that they have aquired in free-agency or a trade aside from maybe rodman...spurs don't attract or want free agents they like the home grown talent

[Kori Ellis]

We need to to package Jefferson with Tony because that's probably the only way to unload his contract. Jefferson on this team is beyond useless.

My idea, TP/Dick for Bosh/Turk.

I don't think they want Turkoglu's bloated contract thru 2014, and no point guard.

[Buddy Holly]

I don't think they want Turkoglu's bloated contract thru 2014, and no point guard.

I think that's be the only way to land Bosh. To take on the contract. Hell, they took on Jefferson's shitty. bloated contract, and that was without a legit all-star attached in the trade.

[Snik]

i think the Jefferson trade really did this team in, especially chemistry wise...i'm still puzzled by that...

And I think Mason was probably a silent cancer...

Yeah, there was something that didn't fit there for sure with Jefferson. I always got the feeling he never really became part of the team. Most guys end up bleeding silver and black after being with the Spurs for a bit, but I don't know that he ever bought into the whole thing. I hope they can move him, but it's going to be tough with that contract.

Let's face it guys, this was probably the last year we might have had a chance at another championship with this bunch. Tim is starting to break down with his knees hurting all the time. Don't get me wrong....he's still better than most, but the younger guys are starting to take it to him. Manu can still be great at times, but he's in his 30's too. Tony still has quite a few good years in him, and Hill has become a great player for us. But none of them are a Tim or a David Robinson. If you look at most of the teams that have been successful taking championships, they almost always have somebody you would characterize as a super star. Tim is/was the only one of those we've got.

Lakers/Cavaliers (maybe the Magic) in the finals

Next year is going to be tougher too with OKC coming on strong.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, there was something that didn't fit there for sure with Jefferson. I always got the feeling he never really became part of the team. Most guys end up bleeding silver and black after being with the Spurs for a bit, but I don't know that he ever bought into the whole thing.

I agree. I think his personality is too "happy go lucky" to ever buy into the true philosophy of the Spurs. I mean, I'm sure he's nice and all - but he just isn't a fit - personality-wise or skillset-wise.

[ace3g]

Richard Jefferson from San Antonio

Jefferson is in the last non-exercisable year of his contract and cannot be traded. However, next season is currently an early termination option and if is not exercised, then the player can be traded.

Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/#ixzz0nUfygvRx

I was working on a trade: RJ for Nocioni and some others and I got this error. So RJ has to not exercise his ETO before the Spurs can trade him

[Shank]

Richard Jefferson from San Antonio

Jefferson is in the last non-exercisable year of his contract and cannot be traded. However, next season is currently an early termination option and if is not exercised, then the player can be traded.

Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/#ixzz0nUfygvRx

I was working on a trade: RJ for Nocioni and some others and I got this error. So RJ has to not exercise his ETO before the Spurs can trade him

He'd have to be nuts to not that money if it's on the table. He's not getting anywhere near that amount if he decides to go elsewhere. In this coming offseason, that kind of money is going to be difficult to come by for a player of his caliber.

[VBM]

I don't think they want Turkoglu's bloated contract thru 2014, and no point guard.

Plus they already know that Turk can't hit an open jumper with Timmy passing out of the double-team

[EricB]

Rj for nocioni,!?!?!?

[Snik]

RJ would have to be nuts not to not take that money. In fact, I am wondering if that might not be one of the problems with him. The truly great players in this game don't do it only for the money. Granted, they like the money, but somebody like Manu or Tim or Tony would play their guts out, and have for their national teams, just for the sake of competing to win and because they love the game. Some players in this league just don't have that kind of competitive fire. He may be one of them.

[NewJerSpur]

I can't see RJ not choosing the payday. Just have to pray there are some suitors by next February or that he's vulnerbable to hypnosis.

[tdunk21]

is there no way to get rid of RJ??

[LakerHater]

Rj for nocioni,!?!?!?

I think he wants to go over to Spain, as for RJ Spurs need to put in more palys for him!! I thought he was pretty productive.... offensively.

[tdunk21]

if spurs are ready to trade TP or RJ....what can the spurs get back????

[exstatic]

Plus they already know that Turk can't hit an open jumper with Timmy passing out of the double-team

He's not a spot up shooter. Orlando understood that, and put the ball in his hands. SA and TOR did not understand. He's a great small ball '4', and presents a lot of the same matchup problems that Odom does. He can bring the ball up the floor and initiate your offense. He's a good passer, and shoots better on the move than he does standing still.

[NewJerSpur]

I think he wants to go over to Spain, as for RJ Spurs need to put in more palys for him!! I thought he was pretty productive.... offensively.

While he's here, I agree and mentioned as much in a few other threads (particularly coming off of picks/down screens/rubs), but his inconsistency in terms of finishing at the rim was a let down in this series. Seemed like the tighter the game got the shorter his arms got.

[LakerHater]

While he's here, I agree and mentioned as much in a few other threads (particularly coming off of picks/down screens/rubs), but his inconsistency in terms of finishing at the rim was a let down in this series. Seemed like the tighter the game got the shorter his arms got.

He hardley had the ball, it always was in Manu's hands!! Even in this last game Manu just didnt have it but tried to force the issue!

I think that there isnt enough ball to go around havin the big three & Jefferson! mayb if we incorporate more plays for him he mayb more productive. ....IMHO.

[Gagnrath]

Jefferson and his agent might flirt with other teams a bit to see if he can get a longer deal for a bit less money per year say like 4 years and a player option at 9+ mill per year otherwise he's staying a spur ofr next year. I think based on what I've heard splitter is here next year hurray, he's going to get rookie calls from the refs, boo. I think a guard rotation of Hill Parker Manu, and Temple is a very very nice back-court. I'm really pleased with temple being able to play both 1 and 2 having a decent shot and good size for either position all told a steady back-up and really inexpensive for the spurs. Great pick-up. .

McDyess is gone kinda sad he didn't get a ring this year but he's got a couple all ready and he bummed through most of the year. He's retiring this off season or an end of the bench guy through the year and deservedly so for some team. Might also be used as trade bait somewhere. Bonner is coming back, he is worth 3.5 mill per year in NBA salaries, knows the spurs and is decent as a bench big during the regular season. Haslip is gone, I really don't understand why pop never gave him much of a shot; splitter is coming in his place Blair is back and his sophomore year should be interesting, will truly define weather he is merely an energy guy off the bench (possible but not real likely) or a slightly undersized supersub capable of 20+ minutes and more with the right match-ups. Mason gone gone gone, can't say I'll miss him Ian Mahinimi I don't know pop seems to like him, he seems ineffective on the floor and fouls alot. I think unless another team offers him more than 2 mil the spurs sign him for around that as a back-up. Bogans I predict to be gone. The spurs will try to get someone with around 5 to 6 mill in free agency.

Roster at season start

Blair
Bonner
Duncan
Ginobli
Hairston
Hill
Jefferson
Mahinmi
Parker
Splitter
Temple
What ever Small forward can be gotten for Vets min or traded for Dyess

Spurs Will be in tax but only for 2 or 3 million. Not good but not crushing.

[NewJerSpur]

He hardley had the ball, it always was in Manu's hands!! Even in this last game Manu just didnt have it but tried to force the issue!

I think that there isnt enough ball to go around havin the big three & Jefferson! mayb if we incorporate more plays for him he mayb more productive. ....IMHO.

I was agreeing with that sentiment in my last post, I have also been just as troubled with his lack of consistency in finishing at or around the rim, especially in pressure situations. It hurt us in the last two games.

But again, while he's in SA (if he's with the Spurs come the first tip-off) they should make use of what he can do when put in certain favorable situations.

[kobyz]

we better keep RJ, his value now is very low so if we will try to trade him we only get weaken, keep him and hope he will improve next season with one year on this team.
generally is no need for dramatic changes because the disappointed, we have good base.
Hill need to work hard on his defense but it's still good 3 guards rotation with Parker-Manu-Hill that we should build on.
we have Splitter coming as a big that protect the paint and score down low, also Blair is gonna to improve with more experience that will give Duncan and McDyess a lot of rest during the season.
we have Nando De Colo rights and we should go hard to bring him this year cause he can play, he is a combo guard and we need depth badly - we didn't have bench this playoff, we need to split the MLE on Splitter and on him.
we also have the twentiethpick in the draft and we should get a good player hopefully it will be Paul George - he is athletic SF who could stroke the three, very good fit.
with the LLE we should go on Raja Bell, he could give defense on both wing positions, shooting and a playoff experience, will be big upgrade over Mason and Bogans.
i also want to keep Ian cause i'm still belive in his talent, i don't want to feel that we miss him.
if we go with this plan we would have nice team for next season:
Parker/Hill/De Colo
Ginobili/Raja Bell/Temple
Jefferson/Paul George
McDyess/Blair/Mahinmi
Duncan/Splitter

[NewJerSpur]

Ian does two things a good amount that worry me, particularly given his role as a big: travels & fouls. He needs to play defense without fouling and better footwork, otherwise his athleticism is useless. Just have to wonder how much time the team is going to be wiling to continue to invest in him.

[tdunk21]

if u look at bynum..he became a better player after lakers hired kareem to mentor him....

dwight howard exceled after magic hired patrick ewing for him....y cant the spurs hire someonelike that and start developing mahinmi and blair???

[NewJerSpur]

I'm not saying the Spurs won't make the investment into Ian, but it is getting later in the Duncan era.

Dwight is still developing his game offensively, but he's made himself more of a defensive/rebounding force around the rim every year and both he and Bynum have both been pretty good with putting themselves in great position to score at the basket even before they got with the names you mentioned.

Blair I believe has a great upside and I know Ian has athleticism, but beyond that i'm not sure.

[UnWantedTheory]

Nothing I have read will put us into a legit position to contend.

[tdunk21]

^its always upto the FO to make moves...we all might think something and FO has something else planned...so evrything we all read and type here will not put us into a legit position to contend...spurs FO really has to make some meaningful roster upgrades to gget timmy another shot at the title

[boutons_deux]

Blair's a great competitor with a big heart, a great guy.

Blair had a fun couple of games, but even with his big reach, he's too small for C or PF. He's the inside guy who was dominant in HS, damn good in college, but too damn small to play a big in the pros. Other bigs block him, and shoot over him

[Gagnrath]

Blair's a great competitor with a big heart, a great guy.

Blair had a fun couple of games, but even with his big reach, he's too small for C or PF. He's the inside guy who was dominant in HS, damn good in college, but too damn small to play a big in the pros. Other bigs block him, and shoot over him

This is sort of misleading he can be effective but not dominate I really think of him as a 20 minute bench guy who will get you 10 and 10 night in and night out in that time. The other team will get some scores with him in there depending on the match-ups but he'll pace them on some teams and show up the subs on others. Wallace is undersized as well but effective as his foot work improves Blair is that guy a little less dominate on defense, alot the same on the boards much better on offense.

[Snik]

Blair's a great competitor with a big heart, a great guy.

Blair had a fun couple of games, but even with his big reach, he's too small for C or PF. He's the inside guy who was dominant in HS, damn good in college, but too damn small to play a big in the pros. Other bigs block him, and shoot over him

Blair is a lot like Malik Rose was as far as what he is/will be able to do. Malik was able to do a pretty good job on some bigger guys just because of his aggressiveness. I look for Blair to have a similar career as he continues to improve his play, which is no bad deal for the Spurs.