Suggestion for Tim Duncan....

[Galileo]

....spend the entire off season shooting three point shots.

I saw Tim back in 1999, and I thought he was the second coming of Akeem Olajuwon, but with a better outside shot.

Now fast forward 11 years later and Tim shoots fewer outside. We all know that older players ususally get better from the outside; Magic learned the three, Jordan turned more to the jumper, Ewing became one of the best jump-shooting big men ever, Jason Kidd went from being a terribler shooter to a three-point threat. And in just one season Channing Frye went from a non-outside shooer to a deadly three-point assassin.

I think that Tim could shake up the league with his three. Tim is one of the smartest players in the entire NBA. He can do it with practice. He has already hit a few notable clutch threes or near threes. And it will help his free throws because I think he is secretly a great free-throw shooter but just thinks to much at the line.

So, Tim, go out there and practice them threes! It's fun to shoot them!

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[m33p0]

....spend the entire off season shooting free throws.
there

[cantthinkofanything]

....spend the entire off season shooting three point shots.

I saw Tim back in 1999, and I thought he was the second coming of Akeem Olajuwon, but with a better outside shot.

Now fast forward 11 years later and Tim shoots fewer outside. We all know that older players ususally get better from the outside; Magic learned the three, Jordan turned more to the jumper, Ewing became one of the best jump-shooting big men ever, Jason Kidd went from being a terribler shooter to a three-point threat. And in just one season Channing Frye went from a non-outside shooer to a deadly three-point assassin.

I think that Tim could shake up the league with his three. Tim is one of the smartest players in the entire NBA. He can do it with practice. He has already hit a few notable clutch threes or near threes. And it will help his free throws because I think he is secretly a great free-throw shooter but just thinks to much at the line.

So, Tim, go out there and practice them threes! It's fun to shoot them!

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I agree! This is the kind of outside the box thinking that the Spurs front office should be doing. It is fun to shoot threes!

[mudyez]

hopefully no one in orlando, los angeles or dallas is reading this!

I can live without a tree point shooting d12, bynum and dampier!

so lets keep it a secret!

[honestfool84]

let me guess, Galileo.. based off your calculations, games 1-4 of the second round don't mean anything when arguing that the Spurs are the top 2 teams in the league? that all four games were flukes?

[cantthinkofanything]

let me guess, Galileo.. based off your calculations, games 1-4 of the second round don't mean anything when arguing that the Spurs are the top 2 teams in the league? that all four games were flukes?

Studies have shown that if a two sided coin has a 90% change of being heads, there is also a great chance that it might be tails 4 times in a row if you flip it a bunch. This is what happened in this series.

[cantthinkofanything]

hopefully no one in orlando, los angeles or dallas is reading this!

I can live without a tree point shooting d12, bynum and dampier!

so lets keep it a secret!

I was watching a old timers game a long time ago and Tommy Heinson was playing. He took a few hook shots from pretty close to the three point arc and made a couple of them. Or maybe made one and was close on the others.

[bigzak25]

i suggest these...

http://www.eastbay.com/images/products/large_w/2002_w.jpg

and a lil more arc on his shots would be nice.

also, maybe he can he practice banking the free throws in? :tongue




in all seriousness, the 3pt shot would be a nice weapon for timmy, but we are talking absolutely zero post game for the spurs at that point.

it would clear the lane and give more leeway let bonner walk though...:lol

can tiago play with his back to the basket?

[Galileo]

Channing Frye's stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fryech01.html

Threes made

2006 3
2007 3
2008 3
2009 11
2010 172 + 20 more in the playoffs so far

[baseline bum]

Tim's outside shot has regressed bigtime from around 2003-04 or so when it was almost automatic if he was left open at the top of the key. I'm not sure what it is, since it's not like he ever got any lift on his shot when he was younger either. If Tim could add that shot back into his arsenal, it would go a long way towards making the offense more efficient. I don't ever want to see him camping out at the three-point line though.

[024]

duncan's free throw shooting is a good indication how well his outside shot can be. and according to this playoffs, it's not going to be very reliable.

[admiralsnackbar]

Channing Frye's stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fryech01.html

Threes made

2006 3
2007 3
2008 3
2009 11
2010 172 + 20 more in the playoffs so far

Most suspicious -- especially considering 2010 was the year the NBA and the Illuminati finally got those mind-control chips working.

[Galileo]

Most suspicious -- especially considering 2010 was the year the NBA and the Illuminati finally got those mind-control chips working.

You are a conpsiracy theorist. It's more likely that Steve Nash taught him how to do it. Frye had never made a playoff three before thsi season.

[Galileo]

Looking at Frye's game log:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fryech01/gamelog/2010/

After the first three games he was 11-20 on threes.

Here is a guy who made 9 threes in his his first three seasons.

Then he made 11 in his 4th season.

And then he makes 11 in the next three games.

Tim can do this.

[Spurs7794]

duncan's free throw shooting is a good indication how well his outside shot can be. and according to this playoffs, it's not going to be very reliable.

Not true at all...Duncan was a KG level outside shooter from 1999-2005 even though he was still a relatively poor ft shooter. Then 2006 happened, the plantar fascitis hit him, and in the playoffs, he made less than 10 or so outside shots in 13 games. Since then, he ALWAYS hesitates on the outside shot which pisses me (and Sean Elliott) off. As another poster said, his top of the key shot used to be money...I think moreso than his overrated bank shot.

[gatoloco]

i like the thread Galileo, but i think trading for Frye would be more likely to happen than TD adding the 3pointer to his game or Pop allowing him to camp out behind the line...

[Galileo]

Magic made between 0 and 9 threes his first 9 seasons.

Then he made 59 in season 10.

And 106 in season 12.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnsma02.html

For the playoffs, he made a total of 5 threes in his 1st 8 playoff years.

Then he exploded.

[SCdac]

What's weird and off putting is that Duncan HAS been taking more mid range jumpers in the last two seasons (there was a decent article (http://48minutesofhell.blogspot.com/2009/01/tim-duncans-new-habits.html) from Jan of 2009 that touched on it a little), but, he seemed to go away from it in these playoffs whether because lack of comfortability (on face-up jumpers that aren't bank shots) or the Spurs play calling when their backs were to the wall just didn't include Timmy popping out for it (understandable - but that may need to change as TD ages). He's got a decent release and shooting stroke, he just needs to be confident in it. That is vital, IMO. I get the feeling that alot of his missed jump shots and free throws are mental, not so much because it's outside of his range. I mean, Duncan has NEVER had a post season of shooting sub .50% on free throws, surely that can be improved upon and something to focus on in the summer. At certain parts of the regular season in the past two years, his shot has looked absolutely wet, but it needs to be something that occurs more regularly (not just in broken plays, etc), so it can open up the court for himself and others.

[BadOdor]

This is comedy gold.

[Hemotivo]

Why is Chip Engelland still with the team?

[Will Hunting]

You are a conpsiracy theorist.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[BadOdor]

Spur fan, have you considered letting bonner run point with duncan playing shooting guard?

It could work, imho.

[HarlemHeat37]

Jump shot %..

2002-2003: 41%
2003-2004: 38%
2004-2005: 41%
2005-2006: 36%
2006-2007: 44%
2007-2008: 38%
2008-2009: 43%
2009-2010: 44%

I don't see how it got worse, looks like it got better from earlier in his career, which was my observation as well..the problem with Duncan's jump shot is that it went away as the season continued, just like the rest of his game..when his knees are gone, his shot becomes too flat and he misses..before the ASB, Duncan was shooting his jump shot around 48% this season AND last season..

[Will Hunting]

Channing Frye's stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fryech01.html

Threes made

2006 3
2007 3
2008 3
2009 11
2010 172 + 20 more in the playoffs so far


Channing Frye has always been good at shooting 20 ft. midrange shots, it was nothing for him to step back a few feet and start making threes. As usual, retarded comparison.

[duhoh]

channing frye has always been a shooting big man.

try again, and do some research. say what you want, it ain't happening.

[TDMVPDPOY]

tim duncan needs to work on that vertical of his...e

[Russ]

Here is a guy who made 9 threes in his his first three seasons.

Then he made 11 in his 4th season.

And then he makes 11 in the next three games.

Tim can do this.


So who rebounds then?

Bonner?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[murpjf88]

Sit Duncan for the entire first half of the year. He'll be fresh as a daisy if they bring him back in March. Duncan was a complete no show against the Suns. He was exploited over and over again. It was probably the weakest defensive performance by him all season. The Suns blew through him like he wasn't even there.

I'm not surprised the Suns won the series, I expected it. But, I didn't expect Duncan to be thrown around like a rag doll.

And for all you Homers that said the Suns defense was an illusion of circumstance, the Spurs failed to shoot better than 50% in three out of the four games. As for the Spurs vaunted defense, the Spurs were pretty much picked apart by Nash and Amare and got every shot they wanted.

[EIC]

Funny, I have a similar thread going about Parker. But why does it have to be all or nothing for Timmy? Aside from a rare three against the Suns, I think Duncan would be better served by working heavily on his mid-range jumper and free throws. Amare would be mediocre at best if he did not (a) hit his free throws and (b) have a reliable 12-foot shot.

[temujin]

1) Rest.
2) Sand baths for both knees, on the beach, every day. 15'.
3) Swim.
4) Take aminoacids (ProGlyMe, Proline Glycine Methionine).
5) Don't gain weight.

6) Tell Popovich to play you no more than 25 mpg untill the ASB.
7) Average 14-7, untill the next playoffs.

That's it.

[boutons_deux]

His knee was said last year or some year to have tendinosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendonosis

Has that diagnosis changed?

[temujin]

His knee was said last year or some year to have tendinosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendonosis

Has that diagnosis changed?

That type of diagnosis can't change.
He'll keep that all life long.
The most dangerous side of tendonosis is that the tendon can break down, anytime.

Spending a lot of time in the off-season on a basketball court is unwise at 34.
Spending it to learn how to nail down 3s, while you are still one of the best post-up player in the business is total nonsense, of course.

[Obstructed_View]

I still maintain that putting Timmy on the three point line could have gotten Team USA a gold medal in the Olympics since nobody else could shoot. Would have prevented the refs from being able to foul him out as well.

[sananspursfan21]

i think THE ENTIRE OFFSEASON is a little much. correct me if i'm wrong but didn't he help win a team 3 pt. shooting contest, or won a three pt. shooting contest against the other spurs players? look at his career stats, he's hit a few in his day. i bet he's better at 3s than we think. but i'm all for him gettin his three on a lil bit!

[tim_duncan_fan]

Duncan needs to work on his freethrows, work on his knees and work out.

That's it.

If he comes back able to hit 75% of his freethrows, move quicker than this past season and actually back his man down in the post, then he will be able to drop 20 points a game.

I really think he lost weight to help out the knee but it ended up making him too weak to post up Channing Frye.

If he does these three things, we'll be noticeably better overall. It doesn't seem like much, but I really think these improvements would make us that much better.

By the way, anyone possess enough knowledge to say whether Tim's knees are able to get any stronger?

[Spurs7794]

Duncan needs to work on his freethrows, work on his knees and work out.

That's it.

If he comes back able to hit 75% of his freethrows, move quicker than this past season and actually back his man down in the post, then he will be able to drop 20 points a game.

I really think he lost weight to help out the knee but it ended up making him too weak to post up Channing Frye.

If he does these three things, we'll be noticeably better overall. It doesn't seem like much, but I really think these improvements would make us that much better.

By the way, anyone possess enough knowledge to say whether Tim's knees are able to get any stronger?

Two things...Duncan can shoot 75%...thats what he did this season from the line. The problem with Tim, which has been the problem for years, is that he stares at the damn basket for an hour and psyches himself out. This makes it much worse when hes struggling. In 2002, the year he shot 80%, he would dribble and shoot quickly. This playoff run, he struggled EVERY game pretty much except for game 5 against Dallas. I think he missed his first one in that doing the death stare and then, the rest of the game, he dribbled and shot it within 2 seconds instead of his normal 6 or 7 seconds. Needless to say, he didn't miss once when he did that. I fully expected him to use that method in game 6 but nope, he stared for 10 seconds and went 1/7 and the Spurs almost blew that game.

The other thing...about him posting up Channing Frye. Anytime he had Channing one on one, the Suns started swarming him. Also, it was clear his knee was starting to act up late in that series. I don't think he lost that much power to back down Channing freakin Frye, especialy since he was still backing down Brendan Haywood in the first round.

[Das Texan]

channing frye was also never in a system where he was told to shoot the 3 prior to this year.


so this is all wholly retarded.

[Das Texan]

If Splitter comes over and is productive that will help limit Timmy's minutes some.

You'd have to think that Blair would see his minutes increase some next year, especially if he can become more consistent with his jumper. A summer in the gym working with Chip could make that happen.

McDyess will be back for a final run next year. Its definitely possible Timmy could see his minutes slip to somewhere between 25-30 for next year. That would work out quite well overall I"d think.