ESPN Rumors: Parker to the Knicks

[montgod]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2ffeatures%2frumors

In an effort to garner interest in paying for their Rumor Central, ESPN has posted a teaser about Parker possibly being traded to the Knicks with his expiring contract next year.

I love how every news outlet jumps on a story (Parker will be traded) that doesn't have any merit and is based on general assumptions. :rolleyes

When does the NFL season start?

[Muser]

NY don't have anything that could come close to what Parker gives the Spurs.

[The_Worlds_finest]

Parker for a sign and trade of david lee would be nice....but realgm.com already has parker going to LA clippers for Chris Kamen.

I dont know how spurs could fill the gap if they were to trade parker. The only way I would pull the trigger would be Chris Paul(and thats not happening)

[sa_butta]

Parker trade will not happen unless we are getting a lottery pick and a young role player. Realistically Parker is not getting traded. He is just too hard to replace.

[Brox6]

too many TP9 rumor :wow:wow:wow

[jiggy_55]

This article actually comes from the NY Daily News...

If San Antonio guard Tony Parker becomes available, New York Knicks could be willing trade partner

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/05/12/2010-05-12_if_san_antonio_guard_tony_parker_becomes_availa ble_new_york_knicks_could_be_will.html#ixzz0niislj Kx

[MaNu4Tres]

Knicks best offer would be Curry Gallinari and Chandler.

Which is not enough. IMO

I doubt Spurs would want to take on 10+ million from David Lee when they have Splitter coming over for less than half that. Minutes will already be scarce.

And New York doesn't have a 1st round pick til 2013.

You can forgetta bout it.

[Muser]

Gallinari is the only knick i'm interested in.

[jjvalerieD]

I really hate those rumors!!!The offseason just start...

[MaNu4Tres]

This article actually comes from the NY Daily News...

If San Antonio guard Tony Parker becomes available, New York Knicks could be willing trade partner

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/05/12/2010-05-12_if_san_antonio_guard_tony_parker_becomes_availa ble_new_york_knicks_could_be_will.html#ixzz0niislj Kx

I wouldn't mind Parker leaving if it got the Spurs Rudy Gay.

[Bukefal]

If he becomes available. I dont know why everyone is caught up in this. The media, ok I get it, but why are you paying attention to these BS stories. He isnt going anywhere, at least, not now. He is the best player, they wont get rid of him like that.

[MaNu4Tres]

If he becomes available. I dont know why everyone is caught up in this. The media, ok I get it, but why are you paying attention to these BS stories. He isnt going anywhere, at least, not now. He is the best player, they wont get rid of him like that.

Spurs would be stupid not to see whats out there.

[Supergirl]

The only player I'd want for Parker is Deron Williams.

[El Parche]

Parker es not going nowheres man...err....that is...he will be returning for another season, chaps. Trading a 28 yr old speed demon with championship moxy and a hot wife would be plain estupid.

[temujin]

Gallo and Lee, anytime.

[DPG21920]

Rudy Gay? Pass.

[8FOR!3]

Knicks best offer would be Curry Gallinari and Chandler.

Which is not enough. IMO

I doubt Spurs would want to take on 10+ million from David Lee when they have Splitter coming over for less than half that. Minutes will already be scarce.

And New York doesn't have a 1st round pick til 2013.

You can forgetta bout it.

If I don't want David Lee's contract, I sure as fuck don't want Eddy Curry's.

[deibero]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors#16096

With a disappointing playoff season in the recent past, it's only natural for speculation to begin regarding how the Spurs might be altered this offseason. Teams that have elite talent but no apparent shot at a title rarely sit still.

And while Spurs general manager R.C. Buford insists he wants point guard Tony Parker to be part of the club's future and he won't trade him, others aren't so sure. Bottom line: If Buford's stance changes, the GM won't have any trouble finding a team that wants the point guard. And already there are hints at suitors.

A source tells the New York Daily News that Gregg Popovich is so high on George Hill that Parker could be traded and that New York would be a good spot for Parker, who has a slashing style that would fit well in Mike D'Antoni's offensive system.

"Pop loves George and I could see a scenario where he would trade Tony," said a Spurs source. "Tony will be looking for a max deal and New York may pay him."

Parker's contract expires at the end of next season and he could come to New York through a trade or free agency if the Knicks don't spend all their cap room this summer.

Not something to bank on, but the fact that there's a lot more chatter on Parker's future outside of San Antonio is indicative of a situation most feel is pretty unsettled.

[jiggy_55]

Thanks for posting the Insider article..

Discussion here: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154216

[Bukefal]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors#16096

With a disappointing playoff season in the recent past, it's only natural for speculation to begin regarding how the Spurs might be altered this offseason. Teams that have elite talent but no apparent shot at a title rarely sit still.

And while Spurs general manager R.C. Buford insists he wants point guard Tony Parker to be part of the club's future and he won't trade him, others aren't so sure. Bottom line: If Buford's stance changes, the GM won't have any trouble finding a team that wants the point guard. And already there are hints at suitors.

A source tells the New York Daily News that Gregg Popovich is so high on George Hill that Parker could be traded and that New York would be a good spot for Parker, who has a slashing style that would fit well in Mike D'Antoni's offensive system.

"Pop loves George and I could see a scenario where he would trade Tony," said a Spurs source. "Tony will be looking for a max deal and New York may pay him."

Parker's contract expires at the end of next season and he could come to New York through a trade or free agency if the Knicks don't spend all their cap room this summer.

Not something to bank on, but the fact that there's a lot more chatter on Parker's future outside of San Antonio is indicative of a situation most feel is pretty unsettled.

Hill, :lol Hill cant replace tony, anyone who says he can is out of their mind. At least, not yet. In the future maybe yes, but not now, come on.

[Creation88]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/05/12/2010-05-12_if_san_antonio_guard_tony_parker_becomes_availa ble_new_york_knicks_could_be_will.html

The emergence of point guard George Hill this season and in the playoffs for the San Antonio Spurs could not have come at a better time for the Knicks.

With Donnie Walsh in the market for a point guard, there are reports that San Antonio would consider trading Tony Parker, who lost his starting job to Hill and has told close friends he and his actress wife, Eva Longoria, would love to relocate to New York.

"Pop loves George and I could see a scenario where he would trade Tony," said a Spurs source, referring to San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich. "Tony will be looking for a max deal and New York may pay him."

Parker, who turns 28 this week, is under contract through next season and there are several factors that could prevent a trade from happening. With the Knicks having traded away their first-round picks for the next two years, they don't have many assets to trade unless they are willing to part with Danilo Gallinari or Wilson Chandler, the latter of whom is recovering from offseason ankle surgery for the second time in two years. Of course, if the Knicks are willing to take on Spurs forward Richard Jefferson's salary, they would increase their chances of acquiring Parker.

Another scenario is the Knicks recruiting a third team to complete a deal. The Spurs, who were just swept by the Suns in the second round, want to get more athletic and are said to be interested in restricted free agent forward Rudy Gay.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/05/12/2010-05-12_if_san_antonio_guard_tony_parker_becomes_availa ble_new_york_knicks_could_be_will.html#ixzz0njFeOy s1

[hater]

I'll take Gallinari

[Bukefal]

this is the third thread about this :lol come on

[lefty]

We will have 255 threads about it by the end of the day, because it's very hard to check before starting a topic.

[Creation88]

well the others were referring to the BSPN article...

[2Cleva]

SA would have to take Curry (last year deal).

[lefty]

Curry?


Hell no :lol

[Darthkiller]

chandler+ curry+douglas for parker , take it or leave it

[2Cleva]

Maybe a S&T with David Lee?

NY get Bosh/LeBron agree to FA deals. Then S&T Lee/Curry/young talent for Parker/Jefferson

[Creation88]

yeah i want Lee if we trade TP

[honestfool84]

oh great, another thread about this...

because there isn't, oh, 1, 2... FIVE threads regarding Parker and threads already.

Parker thread 1: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154227

Parker thread 2: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154216

Parker thread 3: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154222

Parker thread 4: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154008

Parker thread 5: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154023

[lefty]

I'll take back what I said about Curry

He is still 10000000000000000000 times better than Bonner.

[Creation88]

oh great, another thread about this...

because there isn't, oh, 1, 2... FIVE threads regarding Parker and threads already.

Parker thread 1: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154227

Parker thread 2: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154216

Parker thread 3: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154222

Parker thread 4: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154008

Parker thread 5: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154023

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[tdunk21]

Another scenario is the Knicks recruiting a third team to complete a deal. The Spurs, who were just swept by the Suns in the second round, want to get more athletic and are said to be interested in restricted free agent forward Rudy Gay.



now thats something to think about...coz rudy gay is very athletic SF that we need.....so if spurs trade TP/RJ and get back rudy gay from memphis and david lee from NY that would be awesome ...but i doubt it happens...gay/lee/and some young prospects or picks....

[ducks]

lol everyone thinks hill is pops favortite because hill needs to be curried

[kobyz]

NY doesn't have close to what Tony worth

[honestfool84]

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:lol are you 10? that's something my 10 year old sister would say.

[honestfool84]

NY doesn't have close to what Tony worth

i'll say this: if the Knicks want to do some sort of sign-and-trade with Lebron and Parker, i'll do it.

[tdunk21]

i call for sign and trade for lebron....TP/RJ/mahinmi for lebron and jj hickson....dont flame for this...its just an idea to get the most talented athlete

[rjv]

i keep getting this de ja vu feeling today

[Pero]

With Donnie Walsh in the market for a point guard, there are reports that San Antonio would consider trading Tony Parker, who lost his starting job to Hill and


He didn't lose his starting job, that's just ridiculous.

[ALVAREZ6]

Parker for a sign and trade of david lee would be nice....but realgm.com already has parker going to LA clippers for Chris Kamen.

I dont know how spurs could fill the gap if they were to trade parker. The only way I would pull the trigger would be Chris Paul(and thats not happening)

Seriously, that's the only way???

There's way more than 1 PG out there that has better vision and skills in finding teammates than Parker. I love Parker and what he brings, but he's never been the type to play like a true PG. His vision is so narrow because he's usually so focused on what's directly in front of his path to the rim. He tries to dribble around and find a way to the basket, and then his last resort is to pass if he can't find his way. He's not much of a PG in his playing style, more of a small SG. And this has no bias, this is no continuation of Manu vs. Tony at all.

[My Fault]

Obviously the article is flawed. Any package with Parker must include ducks.

[ALVAREZ6]

Hill, :lol Hill cant replace tony, anyone who says he can is out of their mind. At least, not yet. In the future maybe yes, but not now, come on.

He isn't there yet, he may never be as good as Parker. But the Hill-Ginobili back court was very effective the last quarter of the season, it seemed to work really well. I only endorse trading Parker if it returns a player that can have a big effect, NOW. Not in the future. If trading Parker could bring a solid big man to put alongside Duncan, I'm all for it. Tim hasn't had a solid PF/C next to him since Robinson, and playing alongside each other (duncan + another solid big man) would help both of their individual games as the defense can afford to double team less, and would provide the Spurs with much more consistent rebounding. The fact is we need another true big man, and there's no point in signing another average one. But this is really the only way I'd want the Spurs to trade Parker, I don't support just giving away talent for little in return.

[ALVAREZ6]

The only player I'd want for Parker is Deron Williams.

You wouldn't rather have (in addition to Deron Williams) Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, or Brandon Roy? I'd take all of those guys over Parker easily, and that's just at the PG position. But of course, none of those options are realistic as those teams would be crazy to give those players away for Parker.

[dbreiden83080]

Anyone who pays Tony a max deal should be fired...

[K-State Spur]

whether we move parker or not - espn rumors section is just a bunch of guesses. less reliable than hoopsworld on its worst day.

[safetypickle]

As much as I love Parker, if the Knicks offered a reasonable package that included Gallinari, it could be very very tempting. Gallinari is a future All-Star, that is full of potential, and could be even better in Pop's system.

[z0sa]

thread after thread for this bs

[safetypickle]

said it in the other thread, but give us a package with Gallinari and you have my interest

[MateoNeygro]

You wouldn't rather have (in addition to Deron Williams) Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, or Brandon Roy? I'd take all of those guys over Parker easily, and that's just at the PG position. But of course, none of those options are realistic as those teams would be crazy to give those players away for Parker.

B-Roy plays the 2. I'm sure he could do spot minutes at the one but he's a 2.

[DesignatedT]

i want nothing that the knicks have

[J_Paco]

This New York Daily New article is bullshit, since Parker never lost his job and George Hill is no where near a PG. Unless the Spurs plan on starting Ginobili beside Hill, which would again burn-out Manu, there isn't any way that Hill is ready to have the lionshare of ball-handling duties. People shit on Tony's ability to run the team, but George would do a much worse job if thrust into the spot permanently.

Hill started 8 playoff games and averaged less than 1 assist per game.

[ALVAREZ6]

B-Roy plays the 2. I'm sure he could do spot minutes at the one but he's a 2.

Sure, but he'd work with Manu because both can pass, he's the one player I mentioned that isn't necessarily a PG but would still take over Parker because he's simply better.

[ALVAREZ6]

This New York Daily New article is bullshit, since Parker never lost his job and George Hill is no where near a PG. Unless the Spurs plan on starting Ginobili beside Hill, which would again burn-out Manu, there isn't any way that Hill is ready to have the lionshare of ball-handling duties. People shit on Tony's ability to run the team, but George would do a much worse job if thrust into the spot permanently.

Hill started 8 playoff games and averaged less than 1 assist per game.

How does starting Ginobili burn Manu out? He was of the few that didn't burn out in the playoffs, his perimeter jumper wasn't falling after the nose fracture but he kept playing hard. It's not who starts that matters, it's the minutes.

[rayray2k8]

Get rid of the guy that very few teams can guard? Yeah.. That makes sense.
Parker aint going nowhere. Hill is a two guard, not a PG. He can cover for Parker at the 1, but so can Ginobili.

[lefty]

This New York Daily New article is bullshit, since Parker never lost his job and George Hill is no where near a PG. Unless the Spurs plan on starting Ginobili beside Hill, which would again burn-out Manu, there isn't any way that Hill is ready to have the lionshare of ball-handling duties. People shit on Tony's ability to run the team, but George would do a much worse job if thrust into the spot permanently.

Hill started 8 playoff games and averaged less than 1 assist per game.
This.

[Pauleta14]

You wouldn't rather have (in addition to Deron Williams) Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, or Brandon Roy? I'd take all of those guys over Parker easily, and that's just at the PG position. But of course, none of those options are realistic as those teams would be crazy to give those players away for Parker.


FAIL....



He isn't there yet, he may never be as good as Parker. But the Hill-Ginobili back court was very effective the last quarter of the season, it seemed to work really well. I only endorse trading Parker if it returns a player that can have a big effect, NOW. Not in the future. If trading Parker could bring a solid big man to put alongside Duncan, I'm all for it. Tim hasn't had a solid PF/C next to him since Robinson, and playing alongside each other (duncan + another solid big man) would help both of their individual games as the defense can afford to double team less, and would provide the Spurs with much more consistent rebounding. The fact is we need another true big man, and there's no point in signing another average one. But this is really the only way I'd want the Spurs to trade Parker, I don't support just giving away talent for little in return.


Hill can be (very) productive WHEN he is surround by allstars!!!
He doesn't have the talent to be the focus of the opposite teams, he has no weapons to create his own shot and doesn't have a "killer" instinct...
He can become a great player in the spurs system but not a primary weapon on the ong term...

I'm wondering if your opinion of Hill is not based on the fact that you are willing to take any solutions that woud get rid of Parker...:lol

[Darthkiller]

what's with the lee for parker crap.

lee is 2 years younger, averaging 20 10 , is a big man. not injury prone.

parker is 2 years older, bad stats, injury prone, a shoot first pg.

ny isnt using the cap space from lee to get parker..

[Budkin]

TP is not going anywhere.

[sananspursfan21]

equivalent: Lebron could go to San Antonio

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If we could parlay Parker into Gay and one of Galinari or Lee, we'd be dumb not to do it.

[J_Paco]

How does starting Ginobili burn Manu out? He was of the few that didn't burn out in the playoffs, his perimeter jumper wasn't falling after the nose fracture but he kept playing hard. It's not who starts that matters, it's the minutes.


I guess you didn't watch game 4 against Phoenix? Manu has always needed his minutes to be monitored. Playing Manu beside Hill exclusively would burden him with more minutes and more responsibilities.

And, half the guy your pining for don't play the defense necessary to help the team improve on that end of the floor.


If we could parlay Parker into Gay and one of Galinari or Lee, we'd be dumb not to do it.

So, you want to fix one hole by creating another? David Lee with Rudy Gay isn't very realistic, but pairing Gay with Galinari would be. That still doesn't change the fact that we would have a gaping hole at PG.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So, you want to fix one hole by creating another? David Lee with Rudy Gay isn't very realistic, but pairing Gay with Galinari would be. That still doesn't change the fact that we would have a gaping hole at PG.

The role of the point guard in the Spurs offense is to score, not be a distributor. I'm not saying Tony's not a great player, but I don't know that we would have a gaping hole there with his departure.

This is all on the condition Hill steps in at starter at point.

[safetypickle]

just fodder for discussion, but eric bledsoe should be available at #20 in the draft.

[tuncaboylu]

what's with the lee for parker crap.

lee is 2 years younger, averaging 20 10 , is a big man. not injury prone.

parker is 2 years older, bad stats, injury prone, a shoot first pg.

ny isnt using the cap space from lee to get parker..

2 years older player doesn't mean too much in long term plans, if the older player is 28 years old. Moreover averaging 20 10 in one of the worst teams in the league doesn't prove a player is a superstar. Parker is not injury prone guy, he played nearly all of the gamestill this season and his new injury is not anything recurrable.

I agree about Lee for Parker is crap but from the other side. I would never accept to get him for Parker.

[beachwood]

The only player I'd want for Parker is Deron Williams.

Me too. Or Bosh or CP3. But all seem out of the realm of possibility.

[J_Paco]

The role of the point guard in the Spurs offense is to score, not be a distributor. I'm not saying Tony's not a great player, but I don't know that we would have a gaping hole there with his departure.

This is all on the condition Hill steps in at starter at point.

Yeah, but the point guard still needs to be able to run the offense effectively. I really don't think that Hill is ready or suited to run an NBA offense full-time. Or would you be okay with Pop eliminating half of his playbook like he did this past season?

Plus, we can't forget about all the "hockey" assists and opportunities for offense that Tony creates by penetrating and kicking-out. Unless we obtain guys that can both spot-up and slash to the rim, but we'll still that sort of offense especially with Timmy seeing less double-teams. After his poor performance against the Suns, I really don't see Hill making those sort of plays.

Oh, and trust me Tony will be missed when Hill is getting torched by B. Diddy, Aaron Brooks, Russell Westbroook, Roddy B., Derrick Rose, Chauncey Billups and Steve Nash. Did I miss anyone that torched him this season?

[Bruno]

Parker never passes the ball to Manu. Trade his ass.

[J_Paco]

Parker never passes the ball to Manu. Trade his ass.


:lol:lol:lol

Yeah, CoM would love to see Tony gone.

[ducks]

Anyone who pays Tony a max deal should be fired...

5 players are worth the max

boozer,tp,manu,joe johnson are alot that do not dewserve the max

[Muser]

Rudy Gay? GTFO.

[in2deep]

Gallo

sky is the limit for that guy r u kiddin! no way NY lets him go but I'd trade him for Parker in a millisecond

[NFGIII]

He didn't lose his starting job, that's just ridiculous.

Agreed. And Hill didn't become the starting PG - Manu did.


How does starting Ginobili burn Manu out? He was of the few that didn't burn out in the playoffs, his perimeter jumper wasn't falling after the nose fracture but he kept playing hard. It's not who starts that matters, it's the minutes.

Because he needs to play no more than 30 mpg due to his style of play and age. Frankly I thought most posters here at ST would know this by now. Manu isn't going to play 35+ mpg that TP can. If he did the chance of injury would be that much more likely to happen. His minutes have been monitored for at tleast 3 year or so. As he gets older then they taper off even more.

And it isn't the minutes but who finishes that matters. Manu coming off the bench, playing around 30 mpg max if that and finishing the game is the role the Spurs have had him playing for years.

[MrChug]

Gallinari is the only knick i'm interested in.

Obviously Lee is the only Knick worth a squirt of piss (in fact he's worth a lil' more than that) but Gallinari is a stud.

[Leetonidas]

Damn I just jizzed myself thinking of Brandon Roy playing together with Ginobili.

[baseline bum]

Trading Parker and not getting a better point guard back would be incredibly stupid. Unless the Hornets are in extreme cost-slashing mode and want to offer up Paul without tying Okafor into it (extremely doubtful), no way this team should be trading Parker.

[cheney212]

shouldnt trade parker...

[DBMethos]

No need to trade TP unless it's a no-brainer trade (e.g. Chris Paul). Tony should work on his 3 point shot this summer though...it's the next logical step in his evolution.

[phxspurfan]

The last time a Finals MVP PG was traded was for AI back when he was good. So, unless we are getting a HOF scorer, I hope we don't do it.

[edgar]

Trade Parker for something that will help us get to a championship!

[Blackjack]

Exploring the option of trading Parker is a no-brainer. Trading him is not.

I don't see any realistic scenarios that would net the Spurs Bosh for Parker or another big available of his caliber, so there's only one other direction I'd explore: combo guard/wing.

The goal is obviously to win now. They don't have time to trade Tony for an up-and-comer. And dealing Parker would essentially mean you believe Hill could be a full-time starter with whomever you acquire and that combination would put you closer to a title than maintaining the status quo.

So if Hill is the starter, you'll need a backcourt with versatility that can share playmaking responsibilities. It'd be along the lines of what we've come to know of the Triangle's backcourt; offensive initiators or even the point run from more of the 2.

So who fits that bill?

Players involved in packages I'd contemplate:

- Iguodala
- Mayo (maybe you get find away to get Conley as well?)
- J. Johnson

That's just off the top of my head, and it obviously wouldn't be a 1-for-1 trade, but if those are the principle players in the deal ... I'm willing to talk.

[HarlemHeat37]

This is a fabricated article, as usual from the NY media..

There's nothing that I want from the Knicks, and Knick fans don't want Tony Parker either..people here would be angry if they get Parker, unless he's the 3rd option behind Lebron and another star, which won't happen..

[SpursTillTheEnd]

If this trade gets us brandon roy then hell yes trade parker.

[Muser]

If the Spurs could get Mayo/Conley you pull the trigger ASAP, Iggy maybe..Johnson hell no.

[Bukefal]

Parker never passes the ball to Manu. Trade his ass.

:lol

[SpursTillTheEnd]

rt @JaredDudley619 (http://twitter.com/JaredDudley619) rt @lovemeorleeveme (http://twitter.com/lovemeorleeveme) who the hell is san antonio gona get for tony parker? Chris duhon? ( what about sign and trade with David Lee)

[~Sweetmelody~]

I saw the title and my heart sank! These rumors are starting to scare me...

[DPG21920]

There is nothing to be scared about. This year, more than most, there will be a ridiculous amount of fabricated rumors.

IF the Spurs decided to trade TP, I am sure it will be for a hell of an offer that even people who love TP like me would understand.

[~Sweetmelody~]

There is nothing to be scared about. This year, more than most, there will be a ridiculous amount of fabricated rumors.


That Makes sense....


IF the Spurs decided to trade TP, I am sure it will be for a hell of an offer that even people who love TP like me would understand

:depressed I don't know if I would understand, unless there was one of these :lobt2:...I even feel bad saying it! It sounds cold.

[CP48107]

Parker es not going nowheres man...err....that is...he will be returning for another season, chaps. Trading a 28 yr old speed demon with championship moxy and a hot wife would be plain estupid.
+1

I want to keep Parker even if we don't win another championship. Ship these old stars out when they can no longer perform makes me sad. Parker is still at his prime, it will not be a wise decision to trade him.

However, call me crazy if you would, but I like Tracy McGrady to join us for a lower level exemption. Hopefully we can also sign Mike Miller (a 3-pt threat).

[BadMotorscooter]

I dont want Parker gone, but if it means getting a guy like Gerald Wallace in return, I'm all for it. Give me another beast of a defensive player at the 3 spot who can score. The second coming of Bruce Bowen. Wallace just made 1st team all defensive and is only 27. Plenty of good years left. Image a lineup of Hill/Manu/Wallace/Duncan/Splitter. I'll take it, everyday and tweice on sunday.

[ShoogarBear]

Trading Parker and not getting a better point guard back would be incredibly stupid. Unless the Hornets are in extreme cost-slashing mode and want to offer up Paul without tying Okafor into it (extremely doubtful), no way this team should be trading Parker.

Didn't you hear, bb? George Hill is a point guard!

Honestly, anyone who posts or even suggests that should have "I am a dumbshit" made their permanent title. George Hill is a point guard only when compared to Roger Mason.

[Flux451]

RJ and TP for Galinari or Lee and Duhon or Chandler or whomever works...

too lazy to look up salaries

[DPG21920]

Terrible trade ^

[Blackjack]

This is a fabricated article, as usual from the NY media..

Probably the best take on this particular rumor and figured it deserved recognition. :tu

[Harry Callahan]

Consider the source. The FO WILL NOT give Tony Parker away. If he is traded, it will be for assets in line with his abilities. He had a tough year, but a summer off can do wonders. He should be able to come back strong.

NY has NO decent assets to trade - their #1s for the next two years are already gone. You don't give up TP just for any current players on that roster - David Lee is OK, but TP should bring more than just that. If Splitter comes, he will take that spot anyway.

A young up and coming talent who's capable of being an all-star or multiple #1 picks are the right types of compensation.

[panic giraffe]

has it ever accured to anyone that maybe tony doesn't want to stay all that bad?

i'm sure he would love the bright lights, more endorsements, and bigger contracts of a bigger market

even if you read tony's twitter or eva's facebook they keep a usually unbiased towards teams and cities log
it didn't get all "go spurs" until the post season...
just sayin'

[baseline bum]

Didn't you hear, bb? George Hill is a point guard!

Honestly, anyone who posts or even suggests that should have "I am a dumbshit" made their permanent title. George Hill is a point guard only when compared to Roger Mason.

I think Finley's a better power forward than George is a point guard. Not to disrespect Hill; he's shown that he's a hell of a two-guard for this team.

[safetypickle]

even though this is all speculation at this point, most of the what if's seem to focus on david lee. david lee is certainly a great player, but he is not the prize on the ny roster. if there is someone on that roster that we could pull away, it should certainly be gallinari. if only ny had some picks to add..

[DPG21920]

Nothing the Knicks could offer would be good enough for TP. Nothing.

[baseline bum]

Nothing the Knicks could offer would be good enough for TP. Nothing.

This

[baseline bum]

I find it hilarious that this fanbase that used to constantly trash Jason Kidd back when the Spurs were pursuing him now kills Parker for not being Kidd. Sometimes I wonder who is worse between Manufan always disrespecting Parker and Kobefan always hating on Gasol.

[ALVAREZ6]

You fuckers always think I'm hating on Parker simply because I'm a Manu fan and it's simply not the case. I like Parker, however, I believe trading him could make the team more competitive next year to win a championship. And there aren't that many players I would trade him for, but there is no doubt the Spurs NEED another solid big man alongside Duncan at this point in order to win another ring. Playing undersized pussies along with a tough PF that simply is too small to play significant minutes in a title run will not cut it. And somehow I'm crazy, yet in another thread there's an article talking about what the Spurs can do to remain competitive without completely reforming the team, and it reads like this:


Certainly, Tony Parker has value. The 27-year-old point guard battled injuries this season, but is a consistent 16-point, six-assist, high-40s-percent shooter who is in the prime of his career. And is there a comparably talented power forward/center on the market who could be more valuable to the Spurs than Parker? Carlos Boozer? Josh Smith? David Lee? A sign-and-trade scenario with the Raptors for Chris Bosh is interesting, but San Antonio would have to persuade Bosh to ignore the lure of Miami or New York before it could get him.

I simply think it makes sense, but it all depends on what is on the Spurs' agenda. If it's to win a championship in 2011 (if not 2011, likely not again for many many years), then I think bringing another big name forward/center is logical.

[Slinkyman]

I don't think it's people hating on parker as much as people realizing we have two good point guards and a gaping hole at the forward spots, if we want to improve either tony or hill needs to be traded. Not because they suck but because we'll improve our roster. If you look at Hill's number while Parker was hurt he's number were near to want Tony gave us: about 14 ppg and 4 ast but also gave us much better defense and 3pt shooting. Honestly if Starting Hill at PG is a wash why not trade Parker if the right deal comes along? Assuming Splitter signs this summer...
A starting five of: Hill, Manu, Gay, Tim, Splitter with RJ/Blair/McDyess off the bench
vs
a starting five of: Parker, Hill, RJ, Tim, Splitter with Manu/Blair/McDyess off the bench

IMO the first line up is the far superior defensively and also more athletic which were the two biggest weaknesses this past season.

[DesignatedT]

but george hill isn't a poing guard. no where close to being able to run point for a team all year. getting rid of parker would be horrendous for MANU. making him shoulder too much of the load offensively handling the ball... because george can't do it.

Not going to work. He goes nowhere and shouldn't.

[ChumpDumper]

lol two good point guards

[J_Paco]

I don't think it's people hating on parker as much as people realizing we have two good point guards and a gaping hole at the forward spots, if we want to improve either tony or hill needs to be traded. Not because they suck but because we'll improve our roster. If you look at Hill's number while Parker was hurt he's number were near to want Tony gave us: about 14 ppg and 4 ast but also gave us much better defense and 3pt shooting. Honestly if Starting Hill at PG is a wash why not trade Parker if the right deal comes along? Assuming Splitter signs this summer...
A starting five of: Hill, Manu, Gay, Tim, Splitter with RJ/Blair/McDyess off the bench
vs
a starting five of: Parker, Hill, RJ, Tim, Splitter with Manu/Blair/McDyess off the bench

IMO the first line up is the far superior defensively and also more athletic which were the two biggest weaknesses this past season.

The problem with your assertion, as well as many others, is that George Hill isn't a point guard and doesn't have the skills of one. He's improved his ability to run the team from his rookie season, but still needed Manu out there with him to run plays and the offense. Also, I'm sure if Hill became the full-time starter the playbook would remain in it's current (gutted) form. Are Spurs fans okay with just Timmy post-ups, Manu iso's and pick-and-roll plays? I'd like the team to good back to their motion offense which gave everyone an opportunity to score.

Plus, Hill's defense continues to be overrated by many here. Didn't people see every match-up Hill was put in, whether it was Dragic, Barbosa, Nash, Hill, Dudley or Richardson, tear Hill apart in the last series? People blame Timmy, but the perimeter players hurt out defense more than he did. Oh, and did you see Monta Ellis (twice), Aaron Brooks, Chauncey Billups, Derrick Rose and Mike Conley light George up in the regular season? Shit, Pop even said that Hill needed to improve his perimeter defense, one of George's strengths, during his exit interview.

[Darthkiller]

ny will never trade gallinari for parker.

[DesignatedT]

ny will never trade gallinari for parker.

LOL what makes you think we would? I wouldn't want that softie.

[Slinkyman]

The problem with your assertion, as well as many others, is that George Hill isn't a point guard and doesn't have the skills of one. He's improved his ability to run the team from his rookie season, but still needed Manu out there with him to run plays and the offense. Also, I'm sure if Hill became the full-time starter the playbook would remain in it's current (gutted) form. Are Spurs fans okay with just Timmy post-ups, Manu iso's and pick-and-roll plays? I'd like the team to good back to their motion offense which gave everyone an opportunity to score.

Plus, Hill's defense continues to be overrated by many here. Didn't people see every match-up Hill was put in, whether it was Dragic, Barbosa, Nash, Hill, Dudley or Richardson, tear Hill apart in the last series? People blame Timmy, but the perimeter players hurt out defense more than he did. Oh, and did you see Monta Ellis (twice), Aaron Brooks, Chauncey Billups, Derrick Rose and Mike Conley lite George up in the regular season?

1. the playbook would remain the same except RUDY GAY WOULD BE ON THE TEAM! I'm not saying dump Parker for nothing, i'm saying if you can add a SUPERSTAR like RUDY GAY then do it. You refuse to address how Rudy Gay would help the team instead focusing on what we'd lose by not having Parker.

2. Hill is a much better defender then Parker, that's not overrated him. Is he bruce bowen? Not even close. Good defenders get scored on, even Bowen got scored on plenty of times. Bottom line: Hill is a better defender then Parker.

[Slinkyman]

lol two good point guards

Coming from the dude that used to think Marcus Fizer was an nba level player that comment doesn't mean much.

[Biggems]

If we trade Parker, I want a PG in return

Rajon Rondo
D Williams
Chris Paul
Derrick Rose


and since we arent getting any of these 4............KEEP PARKER

[DesignatedT]

1. the playbook would remain the same except RUDY GAY WOULD BE ON THE TEAM! I'm not saying dump Parker for nothing, i'm saying if you can add a SUPERSTAR like RUDY GAY then do it. You refuse to address how Rudy Gay would help the team instead focusing on what we'd lose by not having Parker.

2. Hill is a much better defender then Parker, that's not overrated him. Is he bruce bowen? Not even close. Good defenders get scored on, even Bowen got scored on plenty of times. Bottom line: Hill is a better defender then Parker.

I saw no evidence of this whatsoever. Is hill bigger and stronger? yes. Is he a overall better defender? I wouldn't say so. Parker is much quicker, plays the passing lanes better and has quicker hands than hill.

Bottom Line: No he's not.

[ChumpDumper]

Coming from the dude that used to think Marcus Fizer was an nba level player that comment doesn't mean much.He was.

Just not all that good an NBA player.

Coming from the guy who says we have two point guards and Hill is a much better defender than Parker, your comment doesn't mean much.

[DesignatedT]

People tend to forget that Manu cant play a whole season at the level he ended on this season. Putting the ball in his hands too much early in the season (by not having parker) would be disastrous for the spurs and specifically Manu. Hill is not a point guard. I repeat. Hill is not a point guard.

Manu having to take over pg duties for a full season or even split ball handling duties for a full season.... :lmao

trading parker makes no sense unless we get another star pg in return... which isn't happening.

get over it

[DesignatedT]

swap jefferson for gay. that makes sense. not parker lmao

[gilmor]

1. the playbook would remain the same except RUDY GAY WOULD BE ON THE TEAM! I'm not saying dump Parker for nothing, i'm saying if you can add a SUPERSTAR like RUDY GAY then do it. You refuse to address how Rudy Gay would help the team instead focusing on what we'd lose by not having Parker.

2. Hill is a much better defender then Parker, that's not overrated him. Is he bruce bowen? Not even close. Good defenders get scored on, even Bowen got scored on plenty of times. Bottom line: Hill is a better defender then Parker.

The issue is how do you address the PG problem with Parker gone?

It is not ok to have GHill to run the PG position for long periods of time. So the job will probably fall to Manu. This means that Manu will have to expend a lot of energy in the regular season running the PG position and to end close games.

Unless you can get a PG of equal caliber, a.k.a. Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc, then it is a dumb trade.

[Slinkyman]

swap jefferson for gay. that makes sense. not parker lmao

I agree with that, but i don't think Memphis or New York would agree sadly.

[Slinkyman]

The issue is how do you address the PG problem with Parker gone?

It is not ok to have GHill to run the PG position for long periods of time. So the job will probably fall to Manu. This means that Manu will have to expend a lot of energy in the regular season running the PG position and to end close games.

Unless you can get a PG of equal caliber, a.k.a. Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc, then it is a dumb trade.

How does trading PG for PG help our wing situation? or help us become more athletic? Trading Parker creates some issues like you said but it address weaknesses that just got our asses swept by PHX.

[DesignatedT]

I agree with that, but i don't think Memphis or New York would agree sadly.

yeah i know but if there looking to shop a big piece it needs to be RJ first unless some ridiculous offer comes for parker. not gay or lee or any garbage like that. Tony is a great player and knows how to run this team. He had a tough year just like everyone has once in awhile. expect him to come back very strong next year.

IMO, I don't feel the spurs need to shop any of the starters. If you gave us splitter and improve our bench we would be in good shape this year. for example (swap mason for dudley and bonner for frye) and the spurs win that series. Those are not major adjustments. RJ, Hill, Blair with another year under their belt will make them all improve.

Just need to strengthen the bench. Easier said than done.. I know

[ALVAREZ6]

Assuming we don't trade Parker, the Spurs need to get rid of Jefferson and somehow get another solid big man. It is needed if the Spurs want to get past the Lakers, ever, or to win a championship period.

[Slinkyman]

yeah i know but if there looking to shop a big piece it needs to be RJ first unless some ridiculous offer comes for parker. not gay or lee or any garbage like that. Tony is a great player and knows how to run this team. He had a tough year just like everyone has once in awhile. expect him to come back very strong next year.

IMO, I don't feel the spurs need to shop any of the starters. If you gave us splitter and improve our bench we would be in good shape this year. for example (swap mason for dudley and bonner for frye) and the spurs win that series. Those are not major adjustments. RJ, Hill, Blair with another year under their belt will make them all improve.

Just need to strengthen the bench. Easier said than done.. I know

Did you just call Rudy Gay garbage? um.. ok i just don't know what to say to that.

BTW swapping role players wouldn't have changed much. You do realize the spurs didn't win a single game right? It wasn't the bench that got us beat.

[J_Paco]

1. the playbook would remain the same except RUDY GAY WOULD BE ON THE TEAM! I'm not saying dump Parker for nothing, i'm saying if you can add a SUPERSTAR like RUDY GAY then do it. You refuse to address how Rudy Gay would help the team instead focusing on what we'd lose by not having Parker.

2. Hill is a much better defender then Parker, that's not overrated him. Is he bruce bowen? Not even close. Good defenders get scored on, even Bowen got scored on plenty of times. Bottom line: Hill is a better defender then Parker.

1) Since when is Rudy Gay considered a superstar? He's barely an all-star caliber player. Plus, there is the fact that in S.A. he'd be the third or fourth option, and I doubt he'd be any better a scoring off-the-ball the Jefferson.

2) George has more defensive versatility do to his incredible wingspan, but Parker still has a better grasp of his defensive responsibilities and defends point guards (big or quick) much better. George got torched a lot this season and needs to learn to make his match-ups work more like Bruce Bowen.

[DesignatedT]

Did you just call Rudy Gay garbage? um.. ok i just don't know what to say to that.

BTW swapping role players wouldn't have changed much. You do realize the spurs didn't win a single game right? It wasn't the bench that got us beat.

compared to tony parker. yes, rudy gay is garbage.

We didn't have a bench... that was exactly the problem... the problem ALL YEAR LONG... to much wear and tear on duncan and manu... and the fact tony couldn't get into any kind of rhythm after coming back from that broken hand.

[gilmor]

How does trading PG for PG help our wing situation? or help us become more athletic? Trading Parker creates some issues like you said but it address weaknesses that just got our asses swept by PHX.

Well for one, try other means to get better on the wing.. Draft? Trade other pieces in the Spurs?

Why must we always want to trade Parker? Why not Jefferson?

By trading Parker to get better on the wing is just trading weaknesses with other weaknesses.. Unless we can get some one like Odom who can play both Wing and PG position and can offset Manu of the the PG duties and keep him fresh for the playoffs.

Getting swept by Suns is not just a Wing issue. It's more than that. It's more a bench issue, that we do not have so many serviceable pieces that can play with Suns' bench without getting the starters fatigued, and honestly we just have a huge liability in Jefferson.

[J_Paco]

compared to tony parker. yes, rudy gay is garbage.

We didn't have a bench... that was exactly the problem... the problem ALL YEAR LONG... to much wear and tear on duncan and manu... and the fact tony couldn't get into any kind of rhythm after coming back from that broken hand.

Yeah, I must have imagined Dragic, a bench player, letting the team up in the 2nd half of game three. Plus, wasn't it their bench that kept on erasing our double-digit leads in the second quarter?

[SpursTillTheEnd]

Hill is a much better defender then parker yall must of forgot that hill blocked shots this season something tony p can't do, but with that being said we would be dumb for trading parker to the knicks.

[ALVAREZ6]

The problem for me always returns to the few players I would accept in return for Parker are on teams that would not be interested in such a transaction.

[Slinkyman]

compared to tony parker. yes, rudy gay is garbage.

We didn't have a bench... that was exactly the problem... the problem ALL YEAR LONG... to much wear and tear on duncan and manu... and the fact tony couldn't get into any kind of rhythm after coming back from that broken hand.

The suns Big 3 outplayed the spurs Big 3, that's why we got swept. Tim played 31 mpg the lowest of his career, manu was at his best at the end of the season, neither wore down like you say. Our bench was not our main problem, it needs to be upgraded but i can't say the bench cost us a single game against PHX.

[DesignatedT]

The suns Big 3 outplayed the spurs Big 3, that's why we got swept. Tim played 31 mpg the lowest of his career, manu was at his best at the end of the season, neither wore down like you say. Our bench was not our main problem, it needs to be upgraded but i can't say the bench cost us a single game against PHX.

call it the broken nose or the defense or whatever but manu was definitely not the same against phoenix... again a better tony parker would have helped.. i understand that, but he just couldn't find a consistent amount of playing time all season long to sustain any kind of rhythm.

Not having a consistent parker during the season wore duncan down in the regular season,(everyone saw this, especially the last 3 months of the seasons.. the first 2 games against dallas he was fine.. coming off 6 days rest) and even though pop didn't cave in and still played duncan a career low minutes... if we had a better bench we still could have finished a 2 seed instead of a 7. way to many games we lost because of the shitty ass players we had on the floor and an unfamiliar RJ.

It wasn't so much our bench losing us the series.. since we really didn't have one, but more of the suns bench having such a great series. They are proof that a good bench can do wonders for you.

remember game 3... nash and amare didn't even play the 4th quarter or something...

[ALVAREZ6]

call it the broken nose or the defense or whatever but manu was definitely not the same against phoenix... again a better tony parker would have helped.. i understand that, but he just couldn't find a consistent amount of playing time all season long to sustain any kind of rhythm.


Well, only because his perimeter shot wasn't falling as accurately. It's not like he wasn't giving it his all as usual and playing the game like he always does. They crowded the paint and his pick and rolls and attacking the rim became pretty tough, ultimately he had to knock down outside shots consistently to open up his driving game more but it didn't happen. His level of play did not drop, he played well he simply couldn't make shit from outside, it was just a streaky shooter's slump (much like Lebron lately with his jumpshooting, although he's sustained an injury like Manu it isn't know to what extent it's actually limiting the results, like Manu's nose. Well also Lebron isn't playing as aggressively as he should, but Manu's aggression never left).

[gilmor]

The suns Big 3 outplayed the spurs Big 3, that's why we got swept. Tim played 31 mpg the lowest of his career, manu was at his best at the end of the season, neither wore down like you say. Our bench was not our main problem, it needs to be upgraded but i can't say the bench cost us a single game against PHX.

The reason why Suns Big 3 outplayed the Spurs Big 3 is because the Spurs depend so much on the Big 3 winning the games, whereas the role players contribute very little.

I would assume Suns Big 3 are Amare, Nash and Richardson. Then how do you explain Fyre going off for 15 in Game 2 and Dragic torching us for 26 points in Game 3?

Actually the unsung hero in the Suns' team is probably Grant Hill. It's more than just Suns Big 3. Given Suns Big 3 without the contribution from the role players and the bunch, I think Suns can't beat the Spurs. It's the Bench and their role players that make the intangible differences.

[DesignatedT]

Well, only because his perimeter shot was falling as accurately. It's not like he wasn't giving it his all as usual and playing the game like he always does. They crowded the paint and his pick and rolls and attacking the rim became pretty tough, ultimately he had to knock down outside shots consistently to open up his driving game more but it didn't happen. His level of play did not drop, he played well he simply couldn't make shit from outside, it was just a streaky shooter's slump (much like Lebron lately with his jumpshooting, although he's sustained an injury like Manu it isn't know to what extent it's actually limiting the results, like Manu's nose. Well also Lebron isn't playing as aggressively as he should, but Manu's aggression never left).

by no means am i putting it on him. just stating the obvious. it could have been because of multiple reasons. But again he had to carry a lot of slack torward the end of the regular season with tony out and duncan wearing down tremendously. its not on him.

and again, if we had a better bench and a healthy tony parker would have fixed this problem... along with duncan wearing down before the playoffs.

[Slinkyman]

The reason why Suns Big 3 outplayed the Spurs Big 3 is because the Spurs depend so much on the Big 3 winning the games, whereas the role players contribute very little.

I would assume Suns Big 3 are Amare, Nash and Richardson. Then how do you explain Fyre going off for 15 in Game 2 and Dragic torching us for 26 points in Game 3?

Actually the unsung hero in the Suns' team is probably Grant Hill. It's more than just Suns Big 3. Given Suns Big 3 without the contribution from the role players and the bunch, I think Suns can't beat the Spurs. It's the Bench and their role players that make the intangible differences.

Frye had one good game, Dragic one good game, Grant Hill was solid. But Bonner gave us 11 in game 3 and 14 in game 4. RJ had a 18 point game. Game 2 and 4 George Hill gave us 14 and 17 so it's not like guys outside the big 3 did nothing. Guys from both teams stepped up, with the exception of the 4th quarter in game 3 it was Nash, Richardson, and Amare leading the suns to victory.

[franceout]

trader parker RJ + right to splitter or 1st round pick this yr for cp3 and okafor, spurs will be contender for years

[gilmor]

Frye had one good game, Dragic one good game, Grant Hill was solid. But Bonner gave us 11 in game 3 and 14 in game 4. RJ had a 18 point game. Game 2 and 4 George Hill gave us 14 and 17 so it's not like guys outside the big 3 did nothing. Guys from both teams stepped up, with the exception of the 4th quarter in game 3 it was Nash, Richardson, and Amare leading the suns to victory.

I don't think you want to compare Bonner's good games versus Suns' bench, a.k.a Frye and Dudley. Bonner has proved to be a liability in post season. George Hill only gives us 14 and 17 when he was not starting.

If you look at the demographics, Suns have so many weapons that could have killed us in the 4th quarter. Spurs probably have 4 guys in the 4th who can deliver when it really matters - Manu, Duncan, Parker and prob GHill. You can't honestly put in Jefferson, Bonner when it really counts.

Honestly to me, this Suns' team will go the distance. They won't be swept by the Lakers. They potentially can steal 2 or 3 games off.

[DesignatedT]

both frye and dudley shot over 50% from 3 in the series. the kind of shooting the spurs need. not to mention dudley changed the complexion of almost every game coming off the bench.

we had mason and bonner in there sucking a dick.

[ALVAREZ6]

by no means am i putting it on him. just stating the obvious. it could have been because of multiple reasons. But again he had to carry a lot of slack torward the end of the regular season with tony out and duncan wearing down tremendously. its not on him.

and again, if we had a better bench and a healthy tony parker would have fixed this problem... along with duncan wearing down before the playoffs.

But I also never thought you were putting it on him, what I'm simply saying is his level of play didn't necessarily drop off, his outside jumper just wasn't falling.

[Cane]

The Suns bench played better defense than the Spurs and their guys just got red-hot.

Duncan looked tire out there which is understandable since he's aging, doesn't play that many minutes in the regular season, and for the past two seasons Duncan has been paired with a perimeter big instead of someone that can help in the paint.

Parker was injured, Manu was injured and seemed to lose confidence in his shot as well.

[Pauleta14]

The reason why Suns Big 3 outplayed the Spurs Big 3 is because the Spurs depend so much on the Big 3 winning the games, whereas the role players contribute very little.

I would assume Suns Big 3 are Amare, Nash and Richardson. Then how do you explain Fyre going off for 15 in Game 2 and Dragic torching us for 26 points in Game 3?

Actually the unsung hero in the Suns' team is probably Grant Hill. It's more than just Suns Big 3. Given Suns Big 3 without the contribution from the role players and the bunch, I think Suns can't beat the Spurs. It's the Bench and their role players that make the intangible differences.


this.

I think he was the key!
I'm amazed at how few praises he received after this series...

His D was outstanding and he is so clutch...
Each time after a critical timeout, they gave him the ball and he hit his mid-range jumper...:bang

And the guy is 37 and wasn't supposed to play BB again... :toast

+ he is classy

[ace3g]

Parker says he wants to stay

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/parker_says_he_wants_to_stay_93647459.html

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

by no means am i putting it on him. just stating the obvious. it could have been because of multiple reasons. But again he had to carry a lot of slack torward the end of the regular season with tony out and duncan wearing down tremendously. its not on him.

and again, if we had a better bench and a healthy tony parker would have fixed this problem... along with duncan wearing down before the playoffs.

Manu (and Tony) both looked worse because we didn't have anyone who could hit a three pointer to save their lives.

Jefferson was afraid to take the corner three and stepped inside the line, ruining spacing. Bonner is a choke artist, Mason was standing out their brading his dreads. That really didn't leave anyone to hit a big bucket and open up the spacing on the offensive end.

Phoenix employed the Lakers D of old - pack in the paint and make them beat you from outside. We couldn't do it.

All the more reason why scrubs like Mason and Bonner shouldn't be in the silver and black when the season starts.

[DesignatedT]

Manu (and Tony) both looked worse because we didn't have anyone who could hit a three pointer to save their lives.

Jefferson was afraid to take the corner three and stepped inside the line, ruining spacing. Bonner is a choke artist, Mason was standing out their brading his dreads. That really didn't leave anyone to hit a big bucket and open up the spacing on the offensive end.

Phoenix employed the Lakers D of old - pack in the paint and make them beat you from outside. We couldn't do it.

All the more reason why scrubs like Mason and Bonner shouldn't be in the silver and black when the season starts.

you're exactly right. spurs always used to surround duncan with shooters and this year we didnt have any... and manu struggling with the 3 ball really hurt us.

[gilmor]

you're exactly right. spurs always used to surround duncan with shooters and this year we didnt have any... and manu struggling with the 3 ball really hurt us.

That straightaway brings to minds these few:

Jaren Jackson
Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_
Stephen Jackson
Steve Kerr
Boones
Bowen
Brent Barry
Danny Ferry

This year we have all the non-clutch players:
Roger Mason
Bonner
Bogans

The only one who can shoot 3 outside of the Big 3 is probably Hill..

Hell.. Finley being in the team is still better

[Pauleta14]

That straightaway brings to minds these few:

Jaren Jackson
Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_
Stephen Jackson
Steve Kerr
Boones
Bowen
Brent Barry
Danny Ferry

This year we have all the non-clutch players:
Roger Mason
Bonner
Bogans

The only one who can shoot 3 outside of the Big 3 is probably Hill..

Hell.. Finley being in the team is still better

Exactly, and I fear we won't resolve the problem unless Tony becomes reliable at the 3 and Hill keeps getting better...

A big man AND a reliable (PO!) 3pts shooter a our top2 priorities this summer...

[KyuuiMusikq]

Since Gallinari and Chandler play the same position, and Galli is D'Antoni's boy, Chandler is the most expendable and fits the our team the most. He's a budding star and can be molded into that perimeter defender we need.

Also, to putting all our chips on hoping Splitter is gonna come in and put up numbers like Scola and be a factor like Scola is one hell of a "what if?"

Lee on the other hand is a proven 10 board guy, gritty defender and can mix it up with a post up and face up game and can hit the 10-15 footer. Players like this are the real steals. You know what your getting.

It would take a lot of work, but if Lee's entertaining the idea of the T'Wolves, im sure he'd more then love to come here. S&T Lee, Chandler and allocation money for Parker and S&T Jefferson who im sure would love to get back to the NY/NJ area (where he still owns his apt) and he'd be playing for D'Antoni (most guys love that idea)

As for Parker, well i think we all know he'd love to go to NY, where he'd be seen as the second coming of John Starks instead of playing second fiddle to the Spurs fan base behind Manu and Tim.

[JonNOKC]

as far as putting better big man next to Duncan - Splitter will provide that, not to mentioned an improved Blair and Dice in his 2nd season - I dont see much issue with front court

As far as trading TP for wing just can't get proper value in return - more likely to get equal value trading Hill for wing - but again I think we have a good chance of being improvement from last year regardless of what happens with RJ

In the end just don't see much reason/incentive to move TP unless you know from negotiations we have no chance of extending/resigning/or S&T then you may go ahead and pull trigger even on a questionable deal just so you get something for TP

[KyuuiMusikq]

as far as putting better big man next to Duncan - Splitter will provide that, not to mentioned an improved Blair and Dice in his 2nd season - I dont see much issue with front court

As far as trading TP for wing just can't get proper value in return - more likely to get equal value trading Hill for wing - but again I think we have a good chance of being improvement from last year regardless of what happens with RJ

In the end just don't see much reason/incentive to move TP unless you know from negotiations we have no chance of extending/resigning/or S&T then you may go ahead and pull trigger even on a questionable deal just so you get something for TP

Tiago. Milicic or Scola? Nobody knows. Blairs only gonna be around for 5 years or so before he burns out.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol @ David Lee being a gritty defender and having a good post game..

[Blackjack]

:lol @ David Lee being a gritty defender and having a good post game..

What, those aren't the two glaring things you take away from watching Lee play!?!

[J_Paco]

:lol @ David Lee being a gritty defender and having a good post game..

He's Amar'e Stoudemire-white, except he's a far better rebounder, but doesn't have Amar'e's explosiveness or offensive skills. Neither guy brings anything worthwhile on defense and you ain't winning shit with either as a top 2 player, IMO.


What, those aren't the two glaring things you take away from watching Lee play!?!

Yeah, he's Kevin McHale on the block, Dikembe Mutombo on defense and Kevin Willis on the glass.

:lol:lol:lol


Blairs only gonna be around for 5 years or so before he burns out.

Isn't that more than the average career of most NBA players? Shit, if he gives the Spurs that many more solid years of play most people will be happy. Our run as a playoff-caliber team is only going to last two more years, so let the kid go wild while he can gain a following and build his value.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm locking this thread. People are bumping old threads and confusing everyone.

There's plenty of new Parker-Knicks threads to post in.

[Kori Ellis]

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