Cavs @ Celts Game 6 Blog

[Amarelooms]

Memo to Paul Pierce and Ray Allen...you two better get your shit together and knock down those jumpers in the 2nd half or ya'll gonna be going fishing Sunday evening

:elephant

[Hank the Tank]

Yeah that seemed like a throwaway half. Both teams played like shit. Mo Williams, even with a few stupid turnovers, is the only one really dominating offensively.

[Ghazi]

Memo to Celtics: do your job and bring Lebron to Dallas

[ChrisRichards]

Jamal Mashburn always on Kobe's nuts for real.

[jacobdrj]

LeBron stopped wearing his elbow guard... Could he be on some kind of pain killer that is slowing him down and making him seem dazed out on the floor?

[j.dizzle]

LOL Jamison & Snaq Attack are liabilities on defense but Pierce & Allen havent done anything yet so its a toss up. Good thing Mo Williams showed up cuz Lebron is not shooting well

[ginobili's bald spot]

Jamal Mashburn always on Kobe's nuts for real.

U mad?

[Hank the Tank]

Seriously, how many games have the Cavs lost when Mo scores at least 20? They have to be almost undefeated.

[ChrisRichards]

U mad?
Nah, I like Kobe.

[Amarelooms]

I would throw in some zone against the Cavs....I don't really respect their jump shot making ability

:elephant

[bostonguy]

Well Celts are now fucked. Mo Williams is playing great. Celts are in crazy foul trouble, and Lebron has yet to dominate (He will in the 2nd half). All that and a 2 point lead at half spells serious trouble for Boston. This game has Cavs win written all over it. :depressed

Good season Celts. At least we tried. The inevitable is coming in the 2nd half.

[ChrisRichards]

Rolf @ Cavs fans. I saw joe tait on the stands!

[Spurologist]

I would throw in some zone against the Cavs....I don't really respect their jump shot making ability

:elephant

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ebKDfm0h1oI/Sgx5iDi2ywI/AAAAAAAAHNY/mt1kNZv3Egg/s320/Facepalm+homer.jpg

[Spurologist]

Fuck all this fucking Lebron coverage....

[Amarelooms]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ebKDfm0h1oI/Sgx5iDi2ywI/AAAAAAAAHNY/mt1kNZv3Egg/s320/Facepalm+homer.jpg

Are you watching the game dummy?? They are getting killed with back-screens and in the paint...not jumpers. I'd force the Cavs to win by making jumpers

:elephant

[j.dizzle]

:lmao Good god, espn has been 24/7 Lebron news hahahaha shit is hilarious..How many segments have they aired asking if Lebron is gonna stay in Cle? Every morning the first 10 stories on Sportscenter are Lebron/Cavs related hahaaa

[LnGrrrR]

Well Celts are now fucked. Mo Williams is playing great. Celts are in crazy foul trouble, and Lebron has yet to dominate (He will in the 2nd half). All that and a 2 point lead at half spells serious trouble for Boston. This game has Cavs win written all over it. :depressed

Good season Celts. At least we tried. The inevitable is coming in the 2nd half.

Eh, I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Lebron may not have exploded yet, but I'm not so sure he will.

Plus Rayray has missed all of his outside shooting.

Both teams have played poorly in spurts; it's anyone's game.

[4>0rings]

:lmao Good god, espn has been 24/7 Lebron news hahahaha shit is hilarious..How many segments have they aired asking if Lebron is gonna stay in Cle? Every morning the first 10 stories on Sportscenter are Lebron/Cavs related hahaaaPast 10 years it was Kobe...

[Ghazi]

Good season Cavs.

Enjoy Beaubois/Nivins/Butler next year

[Bob Lanier]

Celts are in crazy foul trouble
No they aren't.

[j.dizzle]

If Ray Allen & Paul Pierce decide to show up then Boston got this...Lebron will get his but Mo aint dropping more then 30 unless hes ridiculously hot.

[Spurologist]

Are you watching the game dummy?? They are getting killed with back-screens and in the paint...not jumpers. I'd force the Cavs to win by making jumpers

:elephant

the last thing Doc wants to do is gamble on zone and give the Cav's scrubs confidence heading into game 7. Moon/James/West/Parker/Williams can all hit the 3 when left open. Parker/Moon are both shooting it over 40% in the playoffs

[pauls931]

Ray Allen is choking big time.

[scottspurs]

was lebron serious when me missed that layup

[Amarelooms]

Ray Allen and Pierce lost the game...and likely the series...congrats lol

:elephant

[scottspurs]

So does Mike Brown get fired if they lose and Lebron leaves?

[scottspurs]

Jamison can't guard Garnett

[j.dizzle]

Celtics playing sloppy & Ray aint hitting shit. Maybe they should of stayed in Cle & played game 6 there too hahahaa

[Ghazi]

Garnetts been fantastic!

[jacobdrj]

Oh so close Rondo... What travel? Lol...

[Spurologist]

Verajao should be in the game from here on out

[scottspurs]

Cavs gettin sloppy

[Amarelooms]

Ray Allen...please make like 30% of your jumpers...thanks in advance

:elephant

[Hank the Tank]

Verajao should be in the game from here on out

How fuckin stupid can Mike Brown be to not see this? Jamison is so abysmal.

[jacobdrj]

Ray Allen...please make like 30% of your jumpers...thanks in advance

:elephant
I think he has earned having a bad game...

[jacobdrj]

How fuckin stupid can Mike Brown be to not see this? Jamison is so abysmal.

Yeah, Verijao was making things happen...

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CqDk4jAv_Y4/S-o0VjWL-wI/AAAAAAAAC_4/XJxLFFfEesI/s1600/19.jpg

[jacobdrj]

It is Prince of Persia, not Prince of Brittan. Why does Jake have to have a faux UK accent?

[Amarelooms]

I think he has earned having a bad game...

WTF??? You're not expecting him to go 70% but he gotta make 40%....given that he's WIDE OPEN for many of those 3's...no excuse he's gotta knock it down

:elephant

[JamStone]

This game sucks. It's only relatively exciting because it's close and the potential for the city of Cleveland to get sucked up by the universe after combusting and imploding.

James is trying. He's not tanking. But he's also playing like he doesn't give a shit if they win or lose, so at the same time, he's not giving 100% effort. I expected to see him try to dominate and go Kobe or something.

[ChrisRichards]

Shaq face effin Perkins :lol

[Bob Lanier]

:lol Smaq

[scottspurs]

I don't know if shaq cant take too many more falls like that and get back up

[pauls931]

WTF is Boston doing on offense?

[Spurologist]

Shaq with great D there on KG......

[picc84]

This is weird. Why are the C's not PnR's Shaq? He's on Garnett.

[Bob Lanier]

I guess Mo Williams is a supporter of the Italians this World Cup.

[redzero]

Rest in peace, Kendrick Perkins.

[ChrisRichards]

Perkins still made at the face fock Shaq gave him


:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Shaq makes Perkins look like Rondo..

[scottspurs]

lol @ perkins

[4>0rings]

Shaq shoving Perkins like a 100lb bitch.

[Spurologist]

I like the idea of both teams shooting on double technicals

[Greg Oden]

sick pass by the chosen one.

[scottspurs]

that was a pretty nice pass by Lebron to Shaq

[Bob Lanier]

Wasn't James out of bounds there?

[ffadicted]

Omigawd boston, so much fail

[4>0rings]

James just making bad decisions

[pauls931]

My God are BOTH teams trying to lose?

[LnGrrrR]

DUNK THAT KG! Cmon... WTF...

[Spurologist]

:lol

Jamison

[Hank the Tank]

choking going on everywhere.

[AnthonyM]

James just standing outside the 3 point line on that possession only to get the ball and pass it immediately

[scottspurs]

If Lebron was great he would take over in this sloppy game

[resistanze]

The black Gasol is having some issues.

[Amarelooms]

Orlando is gonna face fuck either on of these teams :elephant

[j.dizzle]

This shit is UGLY hahaha its not like the defense is great either..KG shot looks good though but need to dunk that shit

[ffadicted]

Damn, Garnett just shit on VaJayJay there

[Bob Lanier]

What a shitty game... this isn't good defense, it's terrible offense.

[Greg Oden]

Kg motherfuckers!

Intensity! Chest pound! Snarl!

[scampers]

So much fail on both sides is making this game actually sort of entertaining

[pauls931]

What a shitty game... this isn't good defense, it's terrible offense.

Agree, if I ever saw a shitty game, this is it.

[Chieflion]

We all saw what KG said there.

[picc84]

This is the worst best game of all time. :lol

[Greg Oden]

Someone better .gif that shit KG just did beating on his head.

[Donkeybong]

this game has reminded me how much i hate the celtics. im cant believe i wanted them to win this game. fuck the celts. Lets go cavs.

[LnGrrrR]

You guys hear the New York Knicks chant? :lol

[4>0rings]

What was the crowd chanting when James shoots a FT?

[scottspurs]

Orlando is gonna face fuck either on of these teams :elephant

Yeah Orlando is a lock the wild card in the conference finals is the Suns

[Warlord23]

At this point IDK why Mike Brown is giving Jamison any minutes at all. He's 1-7 and getting eaten alive on defense. Hickson at least rebounds and defends.

[Hank the Tank]

yeah i agree with terrible offense. it seems like players on both sides are scared tonight.

[Bob Lanier]

http://www.borev.net/choke.jpg

[HarlemHeat37]

Pierce really needs to shave..that facial hair is unacceptable..

[LnGrrrR]

What was the crowd chanting when James shoots a FT?

"New York Knicks! New York Knicks!"

Bill Simmons is smiling somewhere.

[dbestpro]

You can see that Mike Brown is definately a Pop protege.

[resistanze]

I seriously want the Cavaliers to go home. Jesus.

[scottspurs]

The word "Excellent" should not be used in this game what so ever

[ffadicted]

WHEEL CHAIRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

yes, about time

[LnGrrrR]

yeah i agree with terrible offense. it seems like players on both sides are scared tonight.

Boston's offense is all screwed up because they're not hitting the outside jumper, which screws up spacing.

And as I say that, PP finally hits one.

[Spurologist]

I love the way JVG said 'mental strength'

[pauls931]

What they hell is wrong with Cleveland?

[Hank the Tank]

Celtics!!!!

[ffadicted]

YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!

*chugs beer*

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Bob Lanier]

:elephant
:elephant
:elephant

[LnGrrrR]

:lol

"So what if you're bleeding? Blood cleanses the soul!"

They probably should call TO because of the blood rule, but that doesn't mean I don't think Varejao is a bitch for whining to the ref instead of getting back onto offense.

[Spurologist]

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/158389/lebron-dancing-2-o.gif

[dbestpro]

Jamison is killing the Cavs. Seems like teams who made those trade deadline deals have killed their chemistry come playoff time.

[Amarelooms]

Pierce has the SLOWEST 3 point shot in the game....looks like a homo shooting it but glad it went down. Ray Ray not gotta get a few to drop

:elephant

[resistanze]

What they hell is wrong with Cleveland?
They fucking suck? A team of losers.

[Banzai]

lol psycho bob

[pauls931]

A guy is yelling he's bleeding, they continue running a crappy set without him, miss and the celts drill a 3. Cavs are throwing in the towel or are drinking whatever Denver drinks.

[resistanze]

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/158389/lebron-dancing-2-o.gif

:lmao

[JamStone]

New York, Newwwww York

[redzero]

The tales of Kevin Garnett's death have been greatly exaggerated.

[Ghazi]

Dallas :smokin

Bron :smokin

party :smokin

rings :smokin

cocaine :smokin

[scottspurs]

Varejao just quit because he was bleeding what a joke I would never want him on my team. They should be the Cleveland Quitters

[Amarelooms]

New York, Newwwww York

Dallas bitch

:elephant

[j.dizzle]

Whoaaaaa was that a Pierce sighting??? KG's shot has been money lately, maybe someone on Cle should put a hand in his face..I thought they were supposed to be a really good defensive team?

[Champs15]

I'll say it again, Lebron can't close out a game or a series. He does not have that killer instinct like Kobe and Fisher! lol!

[DJ Mbenga]

Varejao just quit because he was bleeding what a joke I would never want him on my team. They should be the Cleveland Quitters

i think they just wanted a free timeout

[scottspurs]

Dallas bitch

:elephant

New Jersey?

[ffadicted]

Ray ray....

[scampers]

Goddamnit enough with the crazy passes.

[picc84]

Sheed. :lol

What a fuckup.

[LnGrrrR]

Sheed, I hate you with all my soul.

And I've never seen so many lazy/bad passes from the Celtics... holy crap.

[sefant77]

Cavs are the Mavs of the east.

Supporting cast doesnt show up consistently

[badfish22]

http://stamm32089.avatar.yuku.com/dallasbasketballdotcom

[scottspurs]

Sheed. :lol

What a fuckup.

Jinx

[Amarelooms]

Ray allen is an idiot...he is gonna cost his team with stupid shooting and passes

:elephant

[Bob Lanier]

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed :smokin

[JamStone]

Sheed retribution

Ball don't lie

[badfish22]

Damn James being a TO machine!

[ffadicted]

I'm enjoying this way too fucking much

[LnGrrrR]

Celtics outside shooting heating up!

[dbestpro]

Mike Brown wanteds the Cavs to be a defensive team so much so that they never have established on offensive identity. LeBron deserves better coaching. I like the idea of LeBron in NY. Imagine what he can do in a real offensive structure.

[Spurologist]

Damn...is that the suns out there?????

[Bob Lanier]

Pierce :smokin :elephant

[j.dizzle]

Wtf is Lebron doing?

[Bob Lanier]

James shuffling the ball around the horn almost like Kobe vs. Phoenix...

[Banzai]

!!!!!!!!!! Boston on fire.

[jag]

I almost feel bad for the city of Cleveland.

[TIMMYD!]

Gonna be the last quarter of the year for LeBron or maybe even his last with the Cavs.

[badfish22]

lol what were they chanting there? Didn't sound like NY.

[dbestpro]

Cavs will be a lottery team next year.

[scottspurs]

lol at Jackson saying let Lebron have 15 to's who cares

[LnGrrrR]

Really hoping the Celts can push this lead to 15 by the end of the third.

[Amarelooms]

Rasheed needs to be taken out SOOOOON

:elephant

[ffadicted]

Celts are so inconsistent

[LnGrrrR]

lol what were they chanting there? Didn't sound like NY.

BULLLLL

SHIIIIIIIT

Must not've liked the call.

[Pistons < Spurs]

I've always hated the Celtics, but nothing would make me happier than seeing them knock the shine off Lebron and send him fishing.

[Amarelooms]

Ray Allen...please do something...all those running off screening like Reggie Miller ain't cutting it....DO SOMETHING ELSE

:elephant

[scottspurs]

This game will end with a Lebron missed three down three. Celtics win

[Ghazi]

http://stamm32089.avatar.yuku.com/dallasbasketballdotcom

ty for the avatar :)

[dbestpro]

The Cavs just never did build their team right. Always putting a hodge podge of over the hill allstars or generic players around LeBron. Once Boozer left they never had a chance.

[Spurologist]

I almost feel bad for the city of Cleveland.

http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/joakim-noah-ugly.jpg

"They still got their factories though"

[badfish22]

ty for the avatar :)

:tu

[Donkeybong]

cavs are winning this game. here comes the run.

[badfish22]

Rondo just being the top 2 PG in the league hes supposed to be.

[Amarelooms]

Another brick Allen....nice

:elephant

[jag]

5/16...tonight is another special night

[LnGrrrR]

:lol Varejao hopping like the Easter bunny.

[Dex]

Cavs bitching about every single call.

[Bob Lanier]

Is Varejao trying out for the Cavs' cheerleading team?

[HarlemHeat37]

Horrible call..again, make up your mind if you're going to call them when they go straight-up, no consistency..

[Spurologist]

Glen Davis got bailed out.....I'm confused on that nba rule. Varejao went straight up...These refs just blow altogether....Stern couldn't get them to do shit

[Bob Lanier]

:lmao at James's post game

[badfish22]

Celtics are just flat out better.

[scottspurs]

7 to's for Lebron. OUCH

[dbestpro]

Delonte West is not a very smart BB player.

[pauls931]

LBJ doesn't looks like he gives a damn about this game.

[Amarelooms]

Celtics bricking free throws....nice...way to capitalize

:elephant

[Hank the Tank]

Celtics should so be 15+ pts ahead right now.

[Spurologist]

What's the matter Doc.....no FIN????

:lmao

[redzero]

LeBron about to get a quadruple double.

[badfish22]

'Quis is about to wreck shit

[Banzai]

interesting game.

[scottspurs]

:lmao at James's post game

Should be interesting. Wonder if any new york media will slip in

[Bob Lanier]

Queer-Eye Daniels in... ruh-roh.

[jag]

Watching the cavs is like watching a poorly coached high school team.

[Amarelooms]

MISSED BOTH free throws????????????????????// WHAT THE FUCK YOU IDIOT

:elephant

[resistanze]

:lol they're a team of chokers, man.

[badfish22]

Tony Allen> Most players on the Cavs and Mavs

[Bob Lanier]

Good play by Tony Allen there :tu He reminds me of Lindsey Hunter.

[scampers]

Whoever wins this series is getting absolutely demolished by the Magic.

[HarlemHeat37]

Cleveland's franchise potentially has 12 minutes left before the beginning of the end..

[scottspurs]

Okay King, what you and your team got?

[Red Hawk #21]

Cavs are in fucking trouble, let's see if they can make it out alive...

[Amarelooms]

Someone tell Ray Allen that there's a basketball game going on and he should try and make a few shots

:elephant

[Warlord23]

Only hope for Cleveland is Doc Rivers putting Michael Finley back in

[21_Blessings]

Cleveland's franchise potentially has 12 minutes left before the beginning of the end..

Cleveland never left the status quo

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CqDk4jAv_Y4/S-oz4798lgI/AAAAAAAAC-I/5QzMGzH7u_o/s1600/10.jpg

[KidCongo]

Well this is it. I hate KG's fadeaway. I hate the Celtics D. I hate Rondo and Tony Allen and fuckin Sheed.

[Bob Lanier]

Whoever wins this series is getting absolutely demolished by the Magic.
What, is Rashard Lewis going to defend KG any better than Jamison has?

Well, of course he is, but how much?

[DJ Mbenga]

http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/joakim-noah-ugly.jpg

"They still got their factories though"

:lmao

[dbestpro]

The Cavs are a reflection of their coach. He has lost his players. They get down and they stay down. It is a shame to watch this team disintegrate because the coach has no motivational capabilities. I've often felt he was one of the worse coaches in the NBA, but was carried by the LeBron bandwagon.

[j.dizzle]

If boston was a smarter team they would be up 15-20. I think this one goes down to the wire

[4>0rings]

This game is so full of win no matter who wins. :lol

[jag]

http://citybullsheet.rccdev.com/images/witness_mvp.bmp

[ffadicted]

Whoever wins this series is getting absolutely demolished by the Magic.

I think bukkaked is the word you're looking for

[LnGrrrR]

Well this is it. I hate KG's fadeaway. I hate the Celtics D. I hate Rondo and Tony Allen and fuckin Sheed.

You should be loving Sheed... he sucks. :lol

[DJ Mbenga]

dan gilbert could lose 100's of millions this quarter

[cobbler]

Mo Williams has set the stage for LBJ to be the hero... Or go home and polish his regular season trinkets.

Who will show?

[jag]

Mo Williams makes me smile.

[Donkeybong]

The Cavs are a reflection of their coach. He has lost his players. They get down and they stay down. It is a shame to watch this team disintegrate because the coach has no motivational capabilities. I've often felt he was one of the worse coaches in the NBA, but was carried by the LeBron bandwagon.

your avatar owns

[AnthonyM]

Mo Williams = Fail

[badfish22]

Cleveland you bunch of fucks :lol

[Bob Lanier]

What the fuck?!

[scampers]

WTF was that???

[Warlord23]

:lmao at that call

[LnGrrrR]

Weaksauce call on Boston there.

[Spurologist]

Game = WIN
Refs = FAIL

[j.dizzle]

Refs are fucking morons. They calling this like its the regular season

[dbestpro]

Doc Rivers > Mike Brown

[redzero]

Tonight is going to be a good night.

How many visitors will RealCavsFans and CavsFanatic get tonight?

30,000?

[4>0rings]

Fat Faggot Davis :lmao

[scampers]

Refs shitting all over the C's right now

[ffadicted]

LMAO!! "I fucked up"

[LnGrrrR]

:lol

Davis swearing on live TV... ESPN won't like that.

[j.dizzle]

LMAOOOOO Baby...I fucked up!!!

[BUMP]

I don't really see this as a Cleveland choke. The Celtics are playing like champions again, they are gonna be a tough out against Orlando or LA.

They really are a different team with KG there

[Spurologist]

:lol

Big Baby getting called out by his teammates.

[LnGrrrR]

And a crappy call on Cleveland at the other end.

[Bob Lanier]

James likes the feel of them boobies.

[dbestpro]

Mike Brown should not be allowed to coach a high school team.

[4>0rings]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[DJ Mbenga]

cavs wont go away but they dont come close either

[LnGrrrR]

Rayray can NOT hit a shot...

And LBJ makes a three. Boston needs to execute better on offense.

[Spurologist]

okay....game getting interesting

[scampers]

Worst possession ever by Rondo

[Bob Lanier]

Get Ray Allen out of the game, dammit.

[jag]

:lmao where has that been

[ffadicted]

Cs fucked up, Cavs win

[4>0rings]

Celtics are done. :lmao

[badfish22]

uh oh

[LnGrrrR]

Cleveland closed the gap pretty quick there, Boston just standing around on offense.

Good timeout by Doc.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

need a fire extinguisher here in the garden

[pauls931]

man, boston looked good briefly, then turned stupid again.

[redzero]

Holy shit.

[HarlemHeat37]

Yessssssss..Lebron needs to go 2007 ECF vs. Detroit right now..

[Hank the Tank]

Cavs are gonna win this. Lebron finally hitting shots.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

WHAT THE FUCK


I get home turn the game on, Boston by 11. I go to take a shit and it's a 4 point game.

[Ghazi]

Oh God... is Lebron's Dallas gonna be put on hold?

[Champs15]

Finally Bron shows up!

[Red Hawk #21]

Back to back 3pointers by Lebron, epic failure by the Celtics.

[jag]

"See, i hit a couple shots...i'm trying"

[j.dizzle]

LOL That unit Boston has out there is just a big fail.

[scottspurs]

It's going to be a nail biter for both Boston and Cleveland fans.

[JamStone]

This is the basketball version of the movie Dumb and Dumber

[Bob Lanier]

Yessssssss..Lebron needs to go 2007 ECF vs. Detroit right now..
Is he being guarded by Tayshaun Prince? Is the opposing defense being coached by Flip Saunders?

[Warlord23]

Celtics need to get fatass Davis out of the game and make KG / Perk play the rest of the game.

[AnthonyM]

Lebron only made those so he can tell Cavs fans he was trying to win that game and use those two three's as evidence...

As he packs his bags for NY

[Spurologist]

Yessssssss..Lebron needs to go 2007 ECF vs. Detroit right now..

:tu that was James' best playoff performance

I don't care what happens though. I just want a classic.

[blkroadrunners]

Cavs back in it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Is he being guarded by Tayshaun Prince? Is the opposing defense being coached by Flip Saunders?


If I remember correctly that moron had Chauncey guarding Lebron in that game.

[badfish22]

lol basketball is basketball

[Amarelooms]

If the Celtics lose...Ray Allen lost this game...awful

:elephant

[KidCongo]

I really can't take this from LeBron.

[Bob Lanier]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CqDk4jAv_Y4/S-o0NgCnauI/AAAAAAAAC_Y/TfNcVs-pXWs/s1600/15.jpg

[dbestpro]

I don't really see this as a Cleveland choke. The Celtics are playing like champions again, they are gonna be a tough out against Orlando or LA.

They really are a different team with KG there

Orlando will kill the Celtics from the outside. Orlando is playing at another level right now.

[j.dizzle]

This is the basketball version of the movie Dumb and Dumber
:lol True dat, its like neither team wants to win.